the two men named by the u.k.'s suspects in the script poisoning case deny any involvement in the incident they've been speaking exclusively to r.t. . you really look like that to us by the u.k. why you. we're those who were shown to you in the pictures. and i was under. all those you real names yes the. u.k. officials have responded to the interviews saying the manhunt to see is false on an

insult to the public's intelligence. head on the program this hour donald trump signs on the executive order to counter a foreign interference in america's elections all insisting his own victory in twenty sixteen wasn't affected. from our international news center here in moscow welcome to our team my names you know neal good to have your company. the two suspects name by the u.k. in the poisoning of russian double agents surrogate script and his daughter back in march have given an exclusive interview to our tease editor in chief let's take a look now at parts of the suspects interview with market rates. on analysis here on the program earlier. we. those are new to me and i've been to live one you

called me on my cell phone and told me that you are a slum bullshit of the looks on the patrol and that all of us are we if you really look like the pictures shown to us by the u.k. and the difference. that you're with us on why you. we are those who were shown to you in the pictures of the slum bashir of. and i would say under petro of the russians there are those your real names national yes they are real names and i would suggest that even now when you are talking about it to tell you the truth you look very nervous and then. i can move what would you look like when your life is turned upside down in a moment in just one day and changed our lives this story has been in the headlines since march but it's only about a week ten days ago that these two faces these things appeared in media in public discourse released by yuko thora to these men certainly resemble those in c.c.t.v.

images released by u.k. police they have confirmed they. are file alexander petroff that they were in the u.k. on those days they were on those c.c.t.v. images a lot of digging a lot of journalists trying to do some some news how it worked out to track them down in the end they came forward voluntarily they made a phone call to margaret to see one of our editor in chief and voluntarily decided to answer some of the key questions i'm sure many people would have had about what exactly happened on those days and they go on this is the t.v. footage from london you walk in those now famous coats and sneakers and soles brick . walls are these people you yes. you know what were you doing there and our friends have been suggesting for a long time that we visit this wonderful town souls' very wonderful town yes a tourist town.

there is the famous solsbury cathedral famous not only in europe but in the whole world. it's famous for its one hundred twenty three metre spire. it is famous for its clock one of the first ever created in the world that still working. out of. the. it. this is so you came to souls greet to take a look at the clock on the shelf no we plan to visit london at first and have fun there. it wasn't a business trip this time. and we planned to go to london and then to salisbury. but when we were almost there we thought the plane wouldn't land on the first drive as there was a heavy snowstorm that's because of all the havoc they had with transport in the u.k. on march second and third because of heavy snow for nearly all the cities were paralyzed

we were unable to go anywhere now so that's just a small x. said this whole thing goes all of my groups are asking them some pretty basic questions but trying to get in there to get some info from them the main thing of course britain says alleges is that the. russian intelligence officers that was tackled to year those surprises they denied any links to the g.r.u. the russian military intelligence service they didn't reveal too much about their business their work they said they work in the sports industry in sports nutrition fitzsimmons protein amino acids. in the interview they said they decided to come to the media for protection they didn't know where to turn and they were confused by the media attention the speculation saying their lives that effectively been turned upside down by all of us. what do you work for the g.r.u. and you me and you and i don't either but no one accuses me of working for the jerry he was but you are being accused of that your colleagues accuse us of that by

your colleagues you mean journalists you are being accused by you get for it it yes that's the scariest thing where do you work if you are adults you need to make a living if we tell you about our business people we work with will be affected tell me anything so that we believe you when everyone has questions what do you do to cut a long story short we're in the fitness industry all right now they also want to say don't know their lives him badly for. by this they say they came to our. margaret is a prominent broadcaster here and often online that they came to our team for some sort of safety although because we're journalists not lawyers what was that about yeah that's right only but that's one of the quotes that moderators job was to get some answers to some questions not to defend them or protect them to get those answers and for the viewer to decide whether they believe this version or not they say they can't leave their house they can't go to the shop can't go to the petrol station they fear for their families being somehow involved implicated in all of this. that's why they chose to come forward voluntarily and answer some of these

questions although there may be more questions than answers of course after all of this let's take a listen. to me why did you decide to go to the media your photos were published some time ago together with your names but you kept silent then today you called me because you want to speak to the media what's changed this issue to ask for protection is to them or the way you can say we kept silent after our lives turned into a nightmare we didn't know what to do where to go the police the investigative committee the u.k. embassy you know both of you couldn't than you or the f.s.b. we don't know why would you go to the u.k. embassy. we really didn't know what to do where to go hello. you know when your life is turned upside down you don't really understand what to do and where to go and many say why don't they go to the u.k. embassy and explain everything you think a lot of us are going to see this interview will have quite mixed feelings the men

are clearly slightly uncomfortable some will have more questions to ask some will view this as another piece of the jigsaw puzzle that is the case of course that has been a bit of a game of chess really between the u.k. and russia the men refused to show their passports that a doctor identity documents on camera they said that what journalist to carry on digging into their past the lives their families they did show them to. she confirmed that they do match with her identity and she made a few comments after the interview just giving some of her own prussians about their interaction i knew they were nervous and sweating a lot i had to turn up the air conditioning a lot higher than usual and still they were sweating and wiping their foreheads which obviously happens when people are nervous there could be a lot of reasons for it i understand this was the first interview in their lives but they could have been nervous for other reasons as well that's also possible they refused to show their i.d.'s on camera because they didn't want to be pursued

and identified further but they showed them to me that i did not run a polygraph on them as a journalist i believe what they see i saw those were the people i saw their i.d.'s and that they feed the photos and video what was going through their minds and whether they were speaking the truth it's hard to see it's up to those who watched the interview to decide really this has been a chance for those two suspects to give some sort of have some sort of right of reply here to give their version of events their story and explain their presence in the u.k. account for their actions during those days and i mean really give their version of events here whether the public will believe that as margarita said she didn't want to give her impression her job was to ask those questions. of course remains to be seen and waiting for responses from her fish will see where this goes next. speaking to kevin owen in reporter well our teaser exclusive interview with the two suspects has generated wide reaction from officials both in russia and the united

kingdom breaking the poly boyko in london. well you saw margarita simonyan saying that it's up to the viewer to decide what to make of this interview and it's fair to say that the british government has given it a massive thumbs down to resume a spokesperson has rubbish the accounts provided by alexander patrol from a share of and they've used pretty strong language to do it take a listen to the lies and blatant for cations in this interview given to a russian state sponsored t.v. station are an insult to the public's intelligence well that same government statement goes on to say that an illegal chemical weapon was used on the streets of the country and that four people seriously ill in hospital and an innocent woman died and russia has responded with contempt now this is the second official statement that we've had from the government from downing street earlier on immediately after the interview was first aired there was

a statement from the government and it was similarly scathing take a listen the government is clear these men are officers of the russian military intelligence service the g.r.u. who use the devastatingly toxic illegal chemical weapon on the streets of our country we have repeatedly asked russia to account for what happened in salzburg in march today just as we have seen throughout they have responded with all of this case and lies. so i think to say that the british authorities are buying it is to say nothing at all really no one's going to be lining up to give them any acting accolades certainly not here in the u.k. all the politicians have been rather skeptical to the member of parliament for soulsby john glenn he's tweeted saying that he's delighted that alexander patrol from the share of enjoyed the world class attractions that sells but he has to offer but it's very strange to come all this way for just two days while carrying

novacek in their luggage he also said that soulsby welcomes tourists from around the world and it is very much open for business but the patrols the sheriff statements according to john glenn are not credible and don't match the widely accepted intelligence that the u.k. has on these individuals so you can see that this is a sponsor that is getting worse and we've got to the next stage of it now because we've had a response from the russian foreign ministry spokesperson that's maria's the horror of us so she's responded to the u.k.'s response to the interview and she has some questions for the british authorities issued this issue and then you've got i believe it's absolutely unacceptable to accuse people of telling lies forty minutes after they have spoken so i repeat my question directly to the british what is the legal basis and framework for accused russian citizens of telling lies forty

minutes after noon to review what was the reason for that what was so specifically non-credible and what they say when official authority to accuse someone of. you must be responsible for the. so we're in the situation now where london is dismissing the interview and questions about why london is dismissing the interview and london is reminding moscow that they have questions that haven't been answered by the kremlin from the very beginning in this affair it looks like we're getting statements and counter statements but there doesn't appear to be any dialogue taking place between london and moscow right now. going through some of the issues that polly was just raising there we can discuss them with journalist writer neil clark new always good to see you on the program did you expect first of all the kind of dismissive reaction from the british government that we've seen following the publication of the interview. they got it and remember only about two or three

days ago the government line that this was echoed in the mainstream media was that these two men would be dead by now. in an interview i think the. critic who said that the russians would be spent kill to talk that was the official narrative three days ago and then what happens these men. contact are seen on our interview and then of course it's all forgotten that we were told that there was a story then changes to of course what they're talking is a pack of lies so i think it's quite interesting really that whatever they had said . dismissed i think because we're talking really about geopolitics of propaganda coming before anything else. our network as you know has also been criticised for airing the interview as a long time journalist would you agree to interview these two men if they reached out to you. i would definitely love to interview i'd love to interview the most so many questions i'd love to ask them because there were a lot of gaps in what they said there were

a lot of there are other questions that i think need to be asked of more more questions actually about you know their trip to salzburg why was it for example they were walking in the wrong direction to the cathedral was that because they got lost that's quite plausible we've all been up roll with all these it is it is we've got most i have to expect you have to but i would ask him about that time and also ask about the backpack they had on one day been on the other day there's all kinds of questions that need to be asked and i think you know i think that we're not they're not being asked about just about them but also about the u.k. narrative either i think germany soon. to be asking more questions about this and of course declaring the biggest question ought to be asking is if it was the case that these two message specs arriving soulsby and them for ever and the script was left home at nine to fifteen am how was it they were poisoned on the door handle of their home because we've got no evidence that she returned hope and we're told these men went to the house around about twelve even though we've got no c.c.t.v.

of this and that's interesting and sprayed the dog on a sunday lunchtime when lots of people would like to get around the script pools were infected by that poison is no evidence of the returning home so that's an obvious question i think all journalists. need to be asking and also about the c.c.t.v. coverage is well why aren't we seeing more full teach because we haven't released any footage of the scribbles on the day of the dead the poisoning but we've only seen limited footage of these two suspects neal thanks so much for not a journalist and writer near clark live on our to international. and you know. all right moving our across the atlantic u.s. lawmakers are vowing to impose new more severe sanctions on russia for its alleged use of a nerve agent in this script case. has been following developments and joins us live now from washington d.c. hi samir a what's being discussed now in congress tell us. well the u.s.

is getting ready to impose more sanctions on russia in november for allegedly poisoning the halls and that's according to assistant secretary of state saying check out what she had to say. the plan to impose a very severe second round of sanctions under the sea the global community will not tolerate behavior such as we've seen from russia especially in poisoning and killing its own citizens we are absolutely prepared to fully implement the second round of sanctions she said that the second round could include banking sanctions prohibition on procurement of defense articles and aid money in her exact words but back in august it was stated that the second round could cut diplomatic ties with russia and all aerial flight aeroflot flights to and from the us and stop all imports and exports but a single also said that the second round of sanctions will not be imposed if russia

commits to on site inspections by the u.n. . we have indicated to them that they can evade the they can make themselves not subject to these sanctions if they allow the on site inspections as you've indicated if they give us a verifiable assurance that they will not use these nerve agents against their own people again they have not done so so far. but here's something to keep in mind about the ultimatum last october the un verified the destruction of russia's chemical weapons through on site inspections and additionally confirmed that all of russia's chemical weapons facilities were closed so yes it looks like the u.s. will once again be sanctioning russia for allegedly using chemical weapons the u.n. says it doesn't have but how do they know that russia did it. did they go into it. in the wrong people. congressman at this point it's not even

a matter of russia admitting it we know they did that are you know. so it looks like they just know russia did it but this all began when the script halls were poisoned back in march novacek was determined to be the agent used and immediately the u.k. and the rest of the western world almost instinctively blamed russia because the agent was originally developed in the former u.s.s.r. but since ninety one it's been developed in several other countries russia has repeatedly denied any involvement and has even quite offered to cooperate in an investigation and the o.p.c. w. and porton down the british laboratory that analyzed the samples couldn't identify the source or country of origin so with that being said we'll just have to see what the second round of sanctions in tail exactly in an official document and then we'll probably be able to determine the effects. on the american reaction to the

case from washington d.c. . well indeed staying on the topic of sanctions donald trump signed off on tackling alleged foreign interference in u.s. elections which he describes as a national emergency the presidents issue that executive order which focuses on any attempt by individuals or countries to influence or alter vote results the crucial midterm elections in november are seen as the primary reason for the order coming in. in the event meddling is proven sanctions would be targeting sectors of strategic significance like finance or defense eager to enough has been taking a closer look. trump has declared war on election meddling rules of engagement weapons free. to the assessment shall identify it to the maximum extent

ascertainable the nature of any foreign interference and any methods employed to execute it the persons involved and the foreign government or governments that authorized directed sponsored or supported it don't be thrown off by the formal word government the us president understands that in a very abstract sense everyone and anything can be a government of sorts an actual authority a political party and even an individual all are designated targets. when it comes to new ones on a scale between a sniper rifle and carpet bombing trump is closer to a firm a nuclear blast his understanding of interference is so broad it seems the president thinks the us election can be swayed by accident disclosing information threatening to disclose information undermining public confidence in a candidate by these rules everyone retreating we can leagues outside of america

would be interfering in the election. do so is the twenty sixteen election medaling case now closed after all the u.s. intelligence all agree long ago that russia meddled in that vote but of course trump wrong be shooting himself in the foot the term united states election means any election for federal office held on or after the date of this order that's right the executive order covers the upcoming midterms and on wards in case of any meddling the investigation will have to review all evidence within forty five days but chances are you won't see any of that. to. the framework which may be classified in whole or in part should focus on ensuring the. agencies for fill their responsibilities pursuant to this order in a manner that maintains methodological consistency the shroud of secrecy around the forensics might as well conceal the lack of it the executive order allows an appeal

in the century a gut feeling assigning blame although there has been no evidence of a foreign power altering the outcome or vote tabulation in any united states election foreign powers have historically sought to exploit america's free and open political system trump didn't sign an executive order he created a magic bullet for himself marketed to the public as something that will protect them and which allows the white house to target whoever it wants igor should run off or legal on media unless lionel believes the executive order is vague especially in contrast to previous documents of its kind let's take a listen. but a couple of things i want to bring up using the canons of of american law away which i know a little bit about and whenever we look at any statute any statute law or regulation executive order p.t.d.

you name it anything that is written one of the tenets that we always look to is are the behaviors are the prohibited actions are those intended. activities spelled out accurately enough and with specificity enough so that you were able to read that particular executive order read the statute and comport accordingly meaning may i read this and say oh i know what to do now the next thing is sometimes we have terms void for vagueness vagueness ambiguity what is enter a fair and and i don't want to do this the air quotes but imagine i'm doing it what is interference what is propaganda what is one team to if fact have a good effect and i can come up with a lot of terms interpretations new ones if i tweak and leave the veritie the

voracity what does this mean i don't even understand how you would even apply this because normally when you look at the statute says interference shall mean this it means it does not mean this the dissemination of an idea discussion debate what is that what when any country has any discussion i think there is an effect so it's very concerning it concerns me for vagueness in ambiguity what it is is the u.s. presidency responding to the domestic media and any doubts that people might hear of foreign interference in the election. the substance of it really is not material because. there are not going to be any measure of all indications of foreign interference in the election. rigging or vote tampering in any event so basically this is a public relations exercise from the white house. well i'll be back in thirty with

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