thing about the latest for you at the top of the hour. hello welcome to sophie and co i'm sophia shevardnadze the politicians and businessmen are gathering here at the economic forum and are russia's far east but outside its halls a bigger question looms climate change as more violent storms and heat waves avails care we really do something about it and get our act together well i talked to

a nobel peace prize winner and a member of the intergovernmental committee on climate change write quote chong. is the effects of climate change become harder to ignore record breaking heat waves and dangerous storms detractions becoming desperate governments around the world continue to linger unable to follow a single strategy how much longer will the planet allow us to wait what can finally breathe humanity together to take action against manmade climate change you should already be too late to stop talking. mr chang thank you very much for being with us today it's a great pleasure let's talk about want to start was climate change because it's such a huge topic and people are divided on it for instance the summer the world the world one through another breaking. records and it's summer in europe it seems to get worse and worse so is this climate change action is this what it looks like

still close to me i have been following the climate change issues for more than twenty years and we have been given the warning from ninety nine to that the climate change of the coming no i say that has already arrived. from d.c. and so are the dollars obo forty degree and we never experienced this kind of way and but it is not only in korea even sweden norway feeling the muck and or so greece portugal and even united states they are suffering from terrible draw to as read as why the fires no i think these are really showing the earth is really showing you saying greed and fury to do it to the word that they are really getting serious climate change so he did so in the beginning of a new risk for climate crisis so i heard the un secretary general say for the millions of time we have to do was we'll have to do something about it right now so

why can't the un does something i can they are. many people think you and can do something about it right but in fact the un is a collection of it's just platform all the countries to come. to unite to take a joint action so un alone is not cannot take any action you're going to have to be forcibly taking countries to take actions so that has been the order the u.n. has been playing it so that's it's like a scientific point of view scientists say that the whole world should come together . and we should all be together in this quest says but it's a little naive to think that each nation is just going to jump forward into this process the same and planet because it just doesn't seem to be a number one priority understanding in nations like china this is it naive to think that you know it will just come together that is it for me very puzzling question

because you for you would think you life easy in danger many people would take a very immediate action to save your life right but if the danger is coming you know through fission. people are not aware about the danger which is coming sooner or later for example i'd like to take just one date many people still have adult some peepers to deny climate change but the energy logical effect eight million years ago when the c o two concentrations you got to miss fear was about four hundred ppm at the time there was no ice in the north spore and the wind of forty million years ago when there was good to see or to was four hundred seven hundred ppm at that time those annoy you see in the cell spore now we are already four hundred ppm so we will assume a later we'll have an old more ice in the north maybe some people say those are

good news for russia but sooner or later the sea level is going up and if we all of over say one hundred ppm and many people project we will even go over it one thousand ppm by the end of the century the new fees one thousand ppm then you do get the six to seven degree hotter and that the sea level was was forty million years ago when you do a seven hundred ppm sea level or was one hundred meters high so this is a jeweler's jeweler lose a cold fact and if this kind of thing is it really happening but there's no ice on most insults and that the sea level is going up is a matter of survival and so busted people don't get it because it is the same the problem is that this facts aren't a secret it's an open information people keep saying and stating that is trying to destroy a well respected people like you. and then people somehow aren't convinced

for instance mr trout it doesn't seem to think that climate change is real and awful americans don't think climate change is real i said in this sense how can. smart educated people and i certainly think trump is smart and educated still have doubts about something so obvious. the reason he is my community is michelman because because it is because we are leaving you know we're real so much abscess to read the short term profit and the short term interest and the maximizing making fost money last year. for hurricane or mo was a hit in miami and the day will tell a customer only line and time these like the telecasting the climate crisis as if it's just a game but it's not a game is really happening and then you do the more stronger hurricanes are coming

and the boss draw wide for you as a commie so do you feel like maybe they were all of p.r. things like nobel peace prize or al gore for instance doing a documentary on environmental change do you feel that that shames people into doing something isn't a good approach to for instance shame trump or shame government and to take it on for me and i'm taking a different approach to arguing that climate crisis is coming i will for example a country like china india and the europe they are going to hit but with their actions the main reason why they avoid moet for example for china china believes that the solar power with the power is going to stimulate creating more jobs and the economy grows and even electric cars in the heart of the electric car and the word is in china show china believes that a renewable energy has

a future so they are. seeking that investing in renewable energy and the climate change action stimulated the economy grocery so there's a different attitude about the same issue so you do you receive. sooner or later the real reason to feel like they were killed which is can make take real actions and private business and it sector can and they can change things now but interestingly many major business businesses such as a british petroleum b.p. and the shale those are leading or the companies are also joining forces in taking climate action because they believe the future of as energy company they believe they do new energy has a future for them so they can not only focusing on full so if you'll have to think oh bust spreading the risk that they're trying to invest in the green energy as well so. many companies in the private sector is changing that to two or they're

even asking for clear clear policy guidelines to take action they are saying to the police to sion we are not denying climate action we want to clear your schedule then we will meet the target there is that you two different probably private company but the political from this side they still afraid of losing the bullets because they are both in the by the people and the people don't like to take any high price for the energy like electricity they don't like it so the police was afraid of losing their boat that's why they cannot take action so we cannot blame the politicians because politicos that is somebody we both of them so i truly we have to blame ourselves because we have to hold somebody who can take actions let's talk electric super grades so this will actually allow. power to be transferred far with minimal loss as far as this place like when dolly what is lots of space a lot for a way and will be able to transfer energy to china could that be an answer to coal

something that will really still have a little laugh is. that i think it is a very important and technological breakthrough because as you know the renewable energy they soul and with this they have a sort of limitations because controller korea or japan we don't have. but you know for linda space to install you know if full of panels show the linking those remote areas like m m will you will be there and also another new movie about the textile i'm not promoting the idea of the super committee that. is installing huge scale solar and wind farm in kazakhstan and linking all of those country along the sucrose and exporting and sharing the renewable energy but to get to see real be a game changer of a quantum jump of the generational bill will emerge because now we have incremental change of the new energy is growing but the speed is not enough and or the speed

the re one has to be like a thirty forty percent every year but now he's only six percent seven percent every year that's not enough to meet the target so to make that one plant i'm jumping all over the scale of a renewable energy we need this kind of technological breakthrough like supercomputers that that could be a game changer in other ways to make this project like a separate way it's a private investing project right and i think you said that there's a japanese investor who wants to invest i just want to write code of a trillion dollars you know in a project you know i mean a wonderful man but like to some he would say simply eccentric do you think if eccentric people like that will put that much money into projects they could become a trend and then there's the false it i don't think he's doing this because he's crazy or he is a philanthropic no he calculated and he found out it makes sense in the comically he was has already calculate that he can make money that's why he's

investing so he's not crazy so very important the reason i am promoting that personally i'm very supportive of this crew of support is because you can generate the money and create jobs not only in mumbai india but in could. control i could not stand because you fuel invest that you know largescale the cost of the electricity goes down in down in down and get even cheaper then coal fire electricity poor fire the electricity is like about five to six cents per kilowatt now from this the solar panel is now already wind down to four cents in dubai and i would be already be taxed on in the year you can go down to four cents so you so ready even more cheaper then the people this is why these technology can be a game changer we all need just need that largest piece of land but it's not done because of stuff or even to siberia what can't can't can't be implemented somewhere

like for instance the heart where there's like a lot of sun you know of course of course there has been talking about it but at so far until now no deal with this has been some. technological problems that's why this project that didn't go very well but now about two to three years ago they completed that is almost at the level of completion no technological breakthrough so now they say it is really in doubt what each day like this new idea is about power help countries to produce solar and wind energy because they i see resources are a blessing for some countries and then not for others for instance you look at africa and like one of the richest countries with diamonds and so many natural resources but then there are so poor you know so this is why that is why we need a super glue that we have to link these countries read the long line long distance transmission line actually does not go in the my idea but. you see here no he

already proposed in ten to fifteen global energy interconnection all around the world or on whole work with the super deep so already people are talking about it i think that's why i think a. sooner or later this will make a big breakthrough. but the answer to the problem of dirty power is actually to produce cleaner power are these ways to reduce consumption of power all together. yes no it's time for us to i was arguing to my people in korea and all over the world that we have to differentiate. clean power and the dirty power because of to care about our future and also bible and so. like energy sources like the gas i think of the gas which is very old and until you know each and russia russia can contribute to by exporting all of that would guess to the work gas can be a kind of breech from very dirty to very clean but the gas is going to

be in the middle and the for some time in the future gas can be filling the gap until we are able to reach over transform tradition towards a very clean energy sources so i think russia has a big role to play by exporting gas use so then there is also a problem of balance because obviously a lot of countries are very keen on sustainable living but what good is it to for instance cut carbon emissions in germany or europe if china keeps colluding there rest of the world at least at the same time as other countries are cutting it where it is but but you have to view you don't have to forget about the fact that the pocket at the emission of china has been very low recently the popped up at the i mean to the germany and the china maybe. almost same same level no but for a long time for twenty thirty years china is the income is the mission has been

very low so we cannot blame them but. i am a little myer the chinese action because china is taking a very decisive action as you might know china already placed all the. in beijing with the gas they already completely closed down the coal fired the boilers there sold china's to and the trying to is promoting electric cars so a day or so shutting down the ability to fire the paul planes they've been ordered to destroying what are hundreds of them showed trying to take a very decisive action so that chinese a pass a mission eases slowing down faster then any other country in the history of economic development so he mentioned couple it has during the interview that in order for the for people to be conscious about the climate change and actually go forward with this sustainable living it has to be tied with money and you know what give me your ideal picture how can we develop a way of life that wouldn't accelerate climate change that wouldn't dent economies

. that would be too costly to livelihoods. i have a very interesting idea nobody my idea but it has been there already the cheese. tax reform you cheese tax reform tax reform because the tax system we have now we have to pay no tax based on no income right so you're paying tax from your income celery right but if you change the texas system we pay tax based on consumption although energy and resources so don't more you consume then you pay more taxes right snuggle new just based on the income that really change your lifestyle to do or so change your production pattern so production and consumption put the new change towards more energy efficient and resource efficient lifestyle there i think even so that's a very good answer to think that could be implemented in any forseeable future or really far from. it is my dream that people for whom green life you know

about so but i don't this why i was trying to find a good example european countries have some good examples like us we're doing them out of germany they have been living high. on energy so because of a high tax their energy efficiency is very high and so with their pocketbook the energy consumption is rolled so this season example how the tax system can change our lifestyle another lifestyle award the city design and the people riding bicycles and there you go to the down. european city small city that is very compact and a densely populated soul that the energy efficiency is very high but in the united states you see people driving to sell verbs and the leading individual houses are all so if you spend too much high energy consumption so if you change the tax or system you do change zero or one design you do change your transpose system to change your lifestyle also i'm wondering you know maybe it's

a generational thing as well as for us for people who are used to driving cars and living their life that will leave it so hard to give all those things out there you know maybe there's going to be a next generation that will calculate on their i phone app the eco name for it they will be more conscious about things like that and for them driving cars is not even an issue because in ten years time when i'm going to be driving cars you know but but just to blaming people for driving cars is not a solution i think we have to offer solutions for them for example like a single poll in singapore people they have a system where you they are discouraging people from riding by driving cars they have all kinds of systems like a charging they are trying to you have to pay more you drive. me tell you have to pay for it you know but. at the same time singaporean government invest to the heavy elite on public transportation so you have alternative options so you even

redevelop the driving call you can move or owned everywhere with the problem so you have to offer those solutions for the people you cannot just imposes on the discordian people not to drive cars isn't on and so so even unlike most. oh boy in broad the most oh no i see there are terrible traffic congestion you know the reason is because people because they have to go somewhere then the answer is the how you can improve the public transportation system i think this is a role or all over the government so government has to play a leading role in making the transition course energy efficient to put this use them design and those off texas system so you can not be done by the market it is the it is a job of the government were so poised to me to leave a job that people said charles thank you very much for the century and i hope your positions will be implemented in the near future so it can all live in a safer greener place thank c.e.o. so much for the for truth you both enjoy thrill killers and here.

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