constantinople arcade is going to issue this really just license and down due the church building later in order for a church to become autocephalous it should receive a special document in which is this out of self or lee is proclaimed and is recognized now as the canonical orthodox church in the ukraine did not ask for such a tours and even if it is given such a document it will not accept it. the promise of how to say if will it can not be addressed to whom it may concern it is always addressed to a particular person who is in charge of a persecutor church so before a grand sings this terms of how to safely they need to find a person who will be considerate of the church there is no such person at the moment there are. groups each of which is headed by a pretty color person they are not in good relations with one another so even to

unite as these two groups into one is already a problem so essentially we are talking about the granting of these other subtly to an idea of a ukrainian united to ukrainian church rather than the actual religious institution that is based on the ground well i'm not sure how as a preacher kate of constantinople is going to proceed because i do not see any possibility of the moment. for the of the ukraine being united in acceptance of such and they'd see it on the twenty they would even care about being united i think for the time being they're fine with whatever followers they have. well i think this separation is very deep it exists it has existed for already a quarter of a century and those are is always a possibility to heal the schism. this needs a certain process last year in december of the so called key of filleted in the

senate actually appealed to the. gate for recognition and also there were some words which can be interpreted as repentance so it could be a starting point for reconciliation but on the following day after this appeal he had to denounce all that he said in his letter addressed to the pitcher of moscow and i suppose it was the ukrainian state which simply forbit him to go in this direction and instead insist that he should go in the direction of constantinople now so much of this dispute is about politics and legal matters who has the right to do what to home but i want to ask you specifically about religious values because depression government betrays itself as a neo liberal government which comes with a certain sound of values on same sex marriage on abortion on the rights of the

fetus and so on. is that something that this new ukrainian church that is supposedly being built at the moment going to support doctrinally do you think there is enough support for that and more of the parishes in ukraine well i think certainly if this church is created on the basis of the schismatic groups it will. propagate the norms which will go in the direction of liberalizations of morality already we hear from the preacher of kit of consent you know paul that they admit that the second marriage. for the clergy it is something which goes contrary to the canons of the communicable councils and it is something which will not be accepted by any of the church so we already see of this kind of modernists liberal tendency in the preacher gate of concern to normal and they will

not be surprised if the same tendencies we will also see in the so-called forced church once it is created by consent in opal in the ukraine and you mention repentance previously as a path to reconciliation but i've also heard the supporters of the ukrainian autocephaly advance. of pastoral care argument they they say that the people who belong to those breakaway religious communities need to be put at the center of the process and that if they die now they are supposed to go to how but if their churches are recognised by the rest of the orthodox community that would allow them to impart divine grace and offer a path to salvation do you see any merit to that argument that people indeed should be at the center of all of this the way you presented it is

a little bit simplified the sitting there argument the matter is somewhat more complicated. very often when people hear about these disputes they only hear the words territory as if we dispute about particularly territory but it is not the territory which matters but the people and. the pastoral care is what the church is about and what the church is for. but the problem is that the schism is in the church terms is something which is invalid for the pastoral for example the sacraments. which are administered by the schismatics they are not valid because they are void of the divide of the divine grace and this is why we are equally concerned about the afraid of those who belong to the schismatic groups and we made many attempts to heal this wound but

the problem with the political try to merge the purely ecclesiastical issue with their political interests and they intervene into internal life of the church even of that process goes i had the ukrainian orthodox church of the mosque and patriarch it is still going to be the largest religious institution in ukraine as you mentioned it has more than wealth thousand parishes and two hundred minus trace in that country what do you have to fear what in true faith triumph anyway. the true face will triumph anyway but the true face may triumph in different ways for example in the ninth twenties and in the one nine hundred thirty s. the true face triumphed through the feet of the martyrs the priests were killed executed imprisoned the face for were treated in the same way as the churches were

destroyed but the face trail because it was the age of martyrdom we fear that if this. so cold out of sefl is proclaimed the ukrainian government will insist that all the orse of the streets belong to this new day for all our cheer unannounced let me stop you right here we have to take a very short break but we will be back in just a few moments. in twenty forty you know bloody revolution to tikrit the demonstrations going from being relatively peaceful political protests to be increasingly violent revolution

is always spontaneous or is it still war here i mean you know i was put in the. school in the middle of the ukrainian president recalls the events of twenty four. those who took part in this today over five billion dollars to assist ukraine in these and other goals that will ensure a secure and prosperous and democratic. delegates and. i'm just as i said. you're going. to look so they're a little bit well. i mean in the him in the question of how they.

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welcome back to worlds apart with mature bold and hilarious they have the foreign relations of the russian orthodox church here and that's just before the break you mentioned some of the concerns here how with regards to the security of the faithful in ukraine and president are shanker pledged on several occasions that the worshipers associated with the mosque a paycheck it would be allowed to practice their religion freely he also promised that they would hold on to their religious property this is also trying to in the ukrainian constitution why are those assurances and not enough for you well they're not enough for us because we hear that. these assurances which we hear from president bush there are. already on the table in the. council or ukrainian state. which directs

discrimination and marginalization of the ukrainian orthodox church one such law if accepted will presuppose that the ukrainian orthodox church should change its name and that it should be in the name to the russian orthodox church in the ukraine and that a big deal this is a big deal because it is something like putting the. hilo. star on the jew in the in hitler's germany the year of the yellow star by itself a sacred symbol but your answer in all due respect i think the level of prosecution which exists in the ukraine is nowhere compared to what we witnessed. during the nazi occupation of eastern europe. but do you really think it's going in that direction i hope it will not go and is there action but if the church if

a particular church she was a ukrainian or so the church is. condemned as the church of the country aggressor. if. it is deprived of legal rights we can expect anything we can expect. mattocks will take control over major monasteries like key were picturesque like but. then of course the orthodox faithful will defend the secret police so we can expect blood shit and present pressure has lots of power in that country but certainly that power is also limited. at least by the way he's presented in the western media one that does something that would constrain any. such scenarios that you just laid out before us well if president poroshenko with. these

type of mordor and liberal secular police he wouldn't have intervened into the affairs of the church i cannot imagine for example president trump saying to the orthodox in the miraca that you have to be united into one jurisdiction and that should be in the miracle church and there should be no preacher or keep of moscow etc etc here in minutes your opponents will immediately are sponsored out by pointing to a pretty harmonious relationship that exists between the russian orthodox church and the russian state with president putin being a practicing orthodox christian how being the church to expand its role within the society what they do. friends between the how state political and religious matters and intertwined in russia and how they are mixed up in ukraine i can tell you was the difference if for example president putin would decide that all christians in

the russian federation should belong to the russian orthodox church and if you would say the roman catholic church in russia. is no longer welcome you should join the russian national church if you are petri wants them it will be a clear intervention into the into the internal life or the churches or if for example president putin would dictate who should be or who should we lift this bishops this will be the intervention such intervention is an image in the book. now both russia and ukraine trace their history from kievan rus which is i thing an interesting title because it merges together the concepts of geography and identity and from moscow geography has always been transit and secondary but not so much for consent in opal and key of for consumption opal for example its whole supremacy

claim is based on the fact that the orthodox christianity was born in geographic locale and i think the ukrainians advancing a similar argument that. christians christians were there before moscow was event found that and why should than it has it have any demeaning and over us what's your response to that. i should underline that there is ness in the bed in the fully itself the russian orthodox church at some point was a part of the major kit of constantinople then. it became an outer surface church and it didn't ask for their consent and opal permission i didn't ask for the permission of constantinople because at that time the preacher called constance you know paul was in the union was wrong which according to the russian church was a here is it so the preacher quite often since in op was a heretic there was no one to ask listen from.

by itself there is nothing bad in the it but the problem for the ukraine currently is that it is not the ukrainian orthodox church of the united to crane in north of the church with or in the to safely it is that the majority of the orthodox faithful are against they want to stay united with the russian church but the schismatic groups on purely political grounds are asking for out a sinfully through which they want to legitimize themselves and peter are both telling you of constantinople seemed to be responsive to those arguments up until a certain point of time what do you think changed in his understanding of the problem problem because as i mentioned before the this movement for an independent ukrainian church has been going on since the early one nine hundred ninety s. but it is only now that he is all of a sudden change his mind on the issue it's not quite all of

a sudden of course there was something which stopped him from decisive. action moves actions and what is that this was the plan or so those council which was supposed to take place in two thousand and sixteen. finally it turned out. to be not quite the planned course of this council because for georges did not participate including the russian orthodox jew just to get an offense is that where he was very offended and moreover he even believed he told this to me personally for example he even believed that it was the russian orthodox church which plotted with three churches not to go to this conversation if that was the case is that sufficient enough reason to authorize the kind of changes that we are discussing today which can cause

a major schism within the whole orthodox community first of all. this was not the case. but he doesn't believe that this was months a case. secondly of course. this is not a sufficient ground for in the clear let me i'm sorry for interrupting but do you think it's purely personal grievance that is driving such a man to change it is not only purely personal grievance but element and this element was very clear when i met with. and also when peter birth all in a minute with a preacher deal it was very clear that he was personally wounded and that he was personally orphaned and that he blamed the russian orthodox church for. the lack of success in the council of crete now the relationship between a mosque in constantinople it was never particularly small of i think most external

observers agree that there is a bit of a power contest going on between patriarch ariel who's presiding over the largest and the wealthiest orthodox congregation and pay chart bartholomew who oversees a relatively small parish in a predominantly muslim country and yet claims a commanding call or global powers do you indeed think there is a power contest going on between the two no i do not think so but i see from history i referred to the one nine hundred twenty s. when the pitcher kit of constantinople supported schism within the russian orthodox church and they see from history is that the patriarch of constantinople very often treat this relationship in this way when there was a russian orthodox church finds itself in a difficult situation instead of helping the church which one may expect from someone who pretends to be. of the into or so that

succeed it is so instead of helping. he does the sins which actually destroy the unity between the churches in the statement that the russian orthodox church issued in response to the convention ople a decision lately it's used a very strong i would even say very irreverent language it's adjusted. the patriarch indeed wants to be as you say the orthodox spoke and that it will have to answer before god in history for this decision does the russian orthodox church recognise the commanding status of constantinople and if so does this reckon recognition dependent on the political decisions that the leader of the current leader of consenting double takes we do not recognize primacy of jurisdiction. we recognize the primacy of warner which means that the preacher of constantinople

. is first someone to equals in the family or source of the churches but he has no right to intrude into another church he has no right to intervene into the affairs of the churches he may if we wish chords in the certain that it is of all the orthodox churches but it is we the churches who trust him with this rule and if he acts contrary to the opinion of the percy cuellar church we cannot accept that the russian orthodox church also accused the constantinople patriarchate of wanting to start a war against the unity of the orthodox christian church and it said that if the ukrainian autocephaly is granted you're going to stop communicating communication of with with consenting ople by doing that one won't hear facta really. feel that

or even more because you would effectively have to tie your cut your ties with other churches some of the churches have a have to decide whether to side with you or with constant within that make things even worse first of all we do not need to cut ties with churches if we cut ties with constantinople there are situations in which two churches are not in communion with one another but. are in communion with both of them and this is what is likely to happen but in canonical terms we will have no option because we cannot accept in the. such action on the part of constance in opal we will have to respond in this way and we are already a warrant several times over news that this will be one of the can sequence of. actions is he supposed to announce his final decision i mean in

a formal way i think somewhere in the fall do you think it's also now are we already beyond the point of no return or do you still hope hold out hope that something may be decided in a mutually acceptable way. things are many uncertainties in the entire project because as i said the nickel shores didn't ask for all to say for this that those kids might the groups are not in the union was one another and there is no clear perspective of even them being the united then there is a few cure all for the so-called feel that they have who will not accept any sinclair's then a church under a human speech or so there are many complications on the week. but we shall see how it goes well your eminence i really appreciate your time today thank you very much for answering our questions thank you i encourage our viewers to keep this conversation going in our social media pages and hope to see you again same place

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