in stories that show the we can't tease editor in chief speaks exclusively to the two russians accused of poisoning. his daughter concerns much of the media and british politicians into overdrive as they called the men's claims of job. terrorists film a false flag chemical attack the u.n. and post online with the hope of discrediting the syrian government all bad according to the russian military. strong strong signs a new executive order to defend all future u.s. elections from foreign meddling this less than two months before the country's

midterm vote. for joining us this hour this is r.t. and. on thursday the two men accused of carrying out the poisoning of former russian double agents and his daughter on british soil gave a world exclusive to r.t. stating they had nothing to do with the assassination attempt that interview to r.t. said it in chief margarita simonyan prompted such odd lines in the british media as murderers having a holiday from hell others said that their claims only make the u.k.'s case stronger. was the new to me and i've been to one you called me on my cell phone and told me that you are. if you really look like the pictures shown to us by the u.k.

and that if. and. when the someone why you. we are those who are shown to you in the pictures. and i would throw at the russians are those your real names national yes they are real names now does he just called them but even now when you are talking about it to tell you the truth you look very nervous on them. what would you look like when your life is turned upside down in a moment and just one day and changed our lives. what do you work for the g.r.u. at work and you meet a normal and you and i don't either but no one accuses me of working for the gerry he was there but you are being accused of that your colleagues accuse us of that by your colleagues you mean journalists you are being accused by u.k. authorities and yes that's the scariest thing where do you work when you are adults you need to make a living process if we tell you about our business people we work with will be

affected tell me anything so that we believe you when everyone has questions what do you do to cut a long story short if you were in the fitness industry. auntie's editor in chief said she chose not to give her personal opinion leaving it up to the viewers to decide whether or not to believe that this is what she had to say though after the . i knew they were nervous and sweating a lot i had to turn up the air conditioning a lot higher than usual and still they were sweating and wiping their foreheads which obviously happens when people are nervous they could be a lot of reasons for it i understand this was the first interview in their lives but they could have been nervous for other reasons as well that's also possible they refused to show their i.d.'s on camera because they didn't want to be pursued and identified further but they showed them to me i did not run a polygraph on them as a journalist i believe what they see i saw those were the people i saw their i.d.'s and that they feed the photos and videos what was going through their minds and

whether they were speaking the truth it's hard to say. it was done in the mainstream media who were quick to react to the interview because politicians notably the former foreign secretary porus johnson didn't mince words. well you see that you see what's happening now with these q two characters produced in this city through kuwait. only russian t.v. these ludicrous she question making a mockery of the whole thing and it really makes my blood boil typically boris response really you hear him using vivid language about his blood boiling and he said that alexander patrol found respond to share of all murderers and that they're welcome to see him in court if they want to challenge that fact and he also spoke of his work as foreign secretary saying that he holds the kremlin in absolute contempt and that he made what he called the kasik mistake of trying to engage with

moscow i made the coffee classic mistake of thinking it was possible to have a reset with russia and. then it just became clearer and clearer to be true that was before so when he was foreign secretary as top diplomat it was his job to represent the country to travel and he called himself a committed rasa file back in twenty seventeen it was his job to meet up with his russian counterpart sergey lavrov now however when he happens to be speaking in washington he says he regrets it all very much and it was a fool's errand and to quote something he once said about his own views that in europe his view on russia appears to have been like a supermarket trolley as well so quite an extreme reaction from the former foreign secretary why does the view of

a former cabinet minister even matter well he is widely tipped by the bookmakers to be potentially the next conservative leader so clearly his views are getting a lot of their time also. the current leader to reason may and prime minister her spokespersons rubbish the interviewee that alexander the trough and by sharon did with r t saying that the account provided by the two alleged attack is an insult to the public's intelligence and outright lies so downing street wasn't having any of it most korea's foreign ministry spokesperson marias the horror of earth was unimpressed with downing street's response questioning why london immediately dismissed petroff account forty minutes after that interview was first to add dmitri peskov off the spokesperson for the russian president vladimir putin

he said that russia would consider any request to interview the man from the u.k. in accordance with russian law but moscow is yet to receive such a request from london. which is foreign minister commented on the issue saying nice time moscow reached down to london the only response was you'll gilsey we need from you is to explain whether it was an order or non-existent so you noted it was pointless to maintain discussions on such a level stressing russia is still ready for serious dialogue just not based on the presumption of guilt journalists and runs a new club believes in this case the truth is less important to some politics. only about two or three days ago the government lie and this was echoed in the mainstream media it was that these two men would be dead by now it was that interview i think that any bell by its leading putin critic who said that the russians would have meant kill they want to talk that was the official narrative

here three days ago and then what happens these men. contact are seeing our interview and then of course it's often got that we were told that there was a story that changes too of course what they're talking is a pack of lies so i think it's quite interesting really that whatever they had said . i think because we're talking really about geopolitics of propaganda coming before anything else really. the russian military says extremists in syria's alleged province of staged and film day false flag chemical attack to frame president assad's government moscow and that the militants will then select footage to the un and so the rest online and with the help of the controversial rescue group the white helmets following be filming on the evening of the same day at a joint meeting between representatives of the white house and terrorists. out of the nine videos from the two were approved to be sent to the u.s. and b. or b. c w the rest of the material was suggested for social media because of low quality

or going to the russian reconciliation center preparations for the supposed attack were made near the syrian town of conscious qumran alleged chemical assault occurred on april fourth last year it said that filming took place in a nearby village where there's also a chemical stockpile or into rejected the warning some rush or that the white helmets are directly involved in staging the attack insists that there is no evidence to support but the battle for the province looms the u.s. is pouring troops into syria warning if there is a chemical attack there be a much stronger response than before contrary to earlier pledges to leave the country looks into how america's approach in syria has zigzagged. the deeper the u.s. gets sucked into the syrian conflict the more the continuity of time seems to change when it comes to decision making in washington back in two thousand and thirteen when allegations of chemical attacks arose barack obama was still in the hot seat and time still seemed linear we intend to investigate thoroughly exactly

what happened. obviously in syria right now you've got a war zone we have to make sure that we know exactly what happened what was the nature of the incident what can we document what can we prove. our common sense review the evidence and attack if justified later the idea that investigations require time those were the good old days but two thousand and seventeen came and times changed syrian dictator bashar. launched a horrible chemical weapons attack on innocent civilians less than seventy two hours later the u.s. fired fifty nine cruise missiles at the airbase they suspected chemical weapons were launched from before any investigation took place. only months later did

a un report come out placing the blame at the feet of the syrian government something they still do not so when the controversy of a white how much group released a video claiming to be proof of a chemical attack in april this year trump was able to pinpoint the culprit in hours many dead including women and children in mindless chemical attack in syria area of atrocities in lockdown and encircled by syrian army making it completely inaccessible to outside world president putin russia and iran are responsible for backing animal assad big price. so the area's inaccessible and yet those responsible have been found out already no ifs ands or buts how does the guy do it the u.k. and france also joined the ranks of the striking government sites in syria after an investigation you ask well three months later the o.p.c. w. did put out a report saying chlorine may have been found but the built on nerve agents and the case is still open so all proof of the last attack hasn't been found the u.s.

is again using its crystal ball to determine what no one else can and is ready to act at least according to wall street journal sources brazil and bush are on the son of syria has approved the use of chlorine gas in an offensive against the country's last major rebel stronghold u.s. officials said so if and when a chemical attack takes place during elipse liberation the guilty party is already known if there are chemical weapons that are used we know exactly who's going to use them that russia's warning of stage attacks is irrelevant that it would lead to exactly what the terrorists want also irrelevant but why look at every scenario when you have everyone else and time on your side. the coeditor of b s news might read deeply such an approach to the conflict in syria by the united states could lead to a far greater war. hasn't even happened but blame has already been apportioned so you know what more can we say apart from that it looks like very likely there's going to be a big strike and this could lead to obviously this could lead to

a conflict with russia and what will three or the fall of the world wars we should be called in the not addressing the syrian arab army they're not even addressing the syrian government of president assad they're addressing the i'll call it a proxy armies i'll call it a fairly it's in italy and effectively what they're saying is the hotline is open you can call it your own airstrike all you need do is provide a pretext however a pretext may be give us something we can sell to our publics back home and we'll have the cruise missiles in the air. the first time ever the u.s voted to punish one of its i'm hungry may be stripped of his voting rights for breaching the union's core values of the migrants more not official but. what politicians do something to. put themselves on the line to get accepted or

rejected. so when you want to be president or injury. or somehow want to. have to go right to the press this is what the four three of them all can't be good . i'm interested always in the waters about how. this city. two thirds of american households do not have five hundred dollars the illusion seacat. has crazy novaya population doesn't have money and you burning money maintaining thirteen aircraft carriers around the moon why why do you change your policies and do something that is good for them when they can do and good for america in the long run.

welcome back donald trump has announced plans to tackle alleged foreign interference in u.s. elections which he described as a national emergency on wednesday the president issued an executive order which focuses on any attempt by individuals or countries to influence votes the crucial midterm elections in november are seen as the main reason for the timing of the order in the event that meddling is proven sanctions would be imposed targeting sectors of strategic significance like finance or defense it is done after it's a close ally. trump has declared war on election meddling rules of engagement weapons free. to the assessment show identified to the maximum extent ascertainable the nature of any foreign interference in any methods employed to

executed the persons involved and the foreign government or governments that authorized directed sponsored or supported it don't be thrown off by the formal word government the us president understands that in a very abstract sense everyone and anything can be a government of sorts an actual authority a political party and even an individual all are designated targets. you when it comes to new ones on a scale between a sniper rifle and carpet bombing trump is closer to a firm a nuclear blast his understanding of interference is so broad it seems the president thinks the us election can be swayed by accident disclosing information threatening to disclose information undermining public confidence in a candidate by these rules everyone retreating we can leaks outside of america would be interfering in the election. so is the twenty sixteen

election meddling case now closed after all the u.s. intelligence all agree long ago that russia meddled in that vote but of course trump wrong be shooting himself in the foot the term united states election means any election for federal office held on or after the date of this order that's right the executive order covers the upcoming midterms and on wards in case of any meddling the investigation will have to review all evidence within forty five days but chances are you won't see any of that. to. the framework which may be classified in whole or in part should focus on ensuring the. agencies for fill their responsibilities pursuant to this order in a manner that maintains methodological consistency the shroud of secrecy around the forensics might as well conceal the lack of it the executive order allows an appeal

on essentially a gut feeling assigning blame although there has been no evidence of a foreign power altering the outcome or vote tabulation in any united states election foreign powers have historically sought to exploit america's free and open political system trump didn't sign an executive order he created a magic bullet for himself marketed to the public as something that will protect them and which allows the white house to target whoever it wants. a group of european lawmakers a voicing their support for hungary to the european parliament voted to slap budapest with the clocks most severe discipline of reaction for breaching the union's core values over migrants those populist leader get vild is called the decision a shame they have spoken british m.p. nigel farage warned of a north ora tarion grip but speak to all of the reports and greece not the only

country bucking the e.u. rulebook. the european parliament has voted to put hungary on its official naughty list by starting article seven measures against budapest will you let it happen that a government that violates the values upon which this union was built with out consequences or will you ensure that the values of this union are more than just which is this then you the elections this year were held in an atmosphere of aggression and intimidation article seven of the lisbon treaty is the biggest stick member nations have with which to beat members of the club not upholding. values if seen through to its fullest and we are still some way away from that happening just yet it could result in a member nation having their voting rights suspended in the e.u. institutions essentially taking away their right to have a say hungary is charged with breaking a wide array of e.u.

laws but when you look at them as a group there are many members states that aunt in breach of some of the same things being levelled at budapest individuals into government have envisaged themselves their family members deference from public funding from utopian taxpayers' money bulgaria is also down there at the wrong end of the table when it comes to corruption and conflicts of interest transparency international puts them bottom of the list when it comes to e.u. member states but also down there at the wrong end of the table a countries like rumania greece italy and croatia m e p's reserved a real tongue lashing for the government when it came to the rights for minorities the council of europe's commissioner for human rights indicated that he was concerned about the deterioration of the situation as regards racism and intolerance in hungary when it comes to discrimination against vulnerable groups

let's say for example here muslim i. grants from north africa it's a far worse picture in the netherlands where almost half say they've been the victim of discrimination italy and france don't fare well here either another area where hungry has crossed the line for e.u. parliamentarian's arguably the biggest issue many had with viktor orban is the collision course the garion prime minister has been on with brussels over migrants we need more europe you know. i would like to raise the voice of the people all over in europe that the awful lot for your we need more union in our refugee problem is not a european problem you need a fair and just distribution the problem is a german problem it is not a problem you create a new legal situation at the borders for you to be even more strict than it was but now we're hearing similar messages coming out of italy. it's over we will come goes

who deserve to be welcomed receive lives we save women men and children but italy will no longer be the european refugee camp hungry ticked too many of the boxes too many times when it came to breaches of the e.u. called values and that is why any piece of voted to start article seven but what it may also serve as a reminder and a wake up call to some of those nations who also find themselves not exactly whiter than white that they could well be next peter all of our early you can go in government denounce the voters a fraud and call the revenge probe migrant politicians prime minister or been added a decision will be made on monday on what legal action to take against brussels ruling is going to show me p. david coburn was that the use become quote starlin a stand such behavior will spark the breakup of the entire block. i think it is disgraceful the way that viktor orban was treated in the european parliament there

is no way to treat head of government and quite frankly it was like a star on the show trial was not just slapping the the prime minister in the face slapping the people in the feet i do know something you keep on making enemies i think you will be long before the hunger games may be joining the british. and other countries as well had tremendous trouble with the european union and the hungary and the pro people they're not going to put up with this sort of behavior from the european union they don't want mass migration into their country and they have the right to decide who lives in hungary and that wasn't part of the deal when the join the european union of their country was going to be filled with with migrants from all over the world european union's and one nine hundred fifty s. idea which is past its sell by date i think this is the beginning of the end of the european union. and this thing with r.t. i'll be back in half an hour at the latest news headlines.

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and welcome to worlds apart the christian history is full of kids in the senate looks like maybe another one coming that's three hundred million strong global orthodox community may soon be forced to take sides of the patriarchy to constantinople and moscow wrangle over the fate of baseball in your brain has already passed that point of no return to discuss that i'm now i'm joined by metropolitan hilarie on how to foreign relations at the russian orthodox church here and announce it's good to talk to thank you very much for your time just a few days ago constantinople patch arcade and in pretty stark terms its decision to eventually ground the sufferer to the ukrainian church whatever it might be revealed discuss it now and i say to the ukrainian church keeping in mind that it

is public primarily a political process but because of the politicians the state lobbied for that what do you make of this very tight association between state and religious affairs first of all i think they should explain what it means because not everyone would understand how to sell for the course of the tradition means independence the orthodox church unlike the roman catholic church consists of fully independent local churches they are not subordinates to one and there is no single he had of this church is except for jesus christ himself and yet from what i understand the constant and opal church does claim the right of five determining which church is supposed to be independent and which is not yes exactly as a pitcher of constantinople it's as if he were the pope for the course of the church but it has not be in the traditional of the force of the church to have.

such bull and we do not recognize the rights of the preacher in opal to. you knew lots of the week can i bring you back to my initial question about constantinople granting arrived at all of ukraine not the ukrainian church but actually to ukraine as a state because this is what we actually discussing at this point of time ukraine does not have. a united religious organization can claim that a document for itself it's more a political necessity for the current elites what do you make of it and the reason i'm asking is because in most democratic liberal societies. the separation between church and state is unquestionable and yet it's not the case for ukraine. in the ukraine there is one canonical ukrainian church it is the ukrainian orthodox church . which is recognized by all orthodox churches as canonical its

twelve thousand parishes more than two hundred monasteries and millions of. and there are also two non-canonical groups which were called schismatic groups which are not recognized by any of the orthodox churches. it is this schismatic groups which are supposed to constitute the basis on which constantinople wants to be able to build this. church and it is a political project because it is a project instigated by as a current ukrainian political authorities they want to create a united church or for churches the canonical orthodox church the two schismatic groups and also as the greek catholic church which belongs to the pope of rome this moment for an independent ukrainian church started back in the ninety nine percent

baghdad and its supporters are pretty open about wanting a schism a political schism a religious schism but i think president bush on cut deep change a tactic a little bit and he presents it as him striving towards the unity of the ukrainian faithful i'm sure you dislike it but don't you think that it's a clever tactic for him we certainly like the idea of the unity of the church and we certainly dislike schisms but the broken silly asian between schismatics and the canonical church. should go through. the process which we call repentance and that is not repentance in the sense. in which we use this word for example when we talk about personal life about morality and so on it's a canonical.