and. the russian defense ministry tracks the serial number over the missing link by the official investigation for the downing of the mh seventeen the top secret documents now unclassified of course for the sequel to the accused to ukraine's forces. and other headlines and also international protests erupt in the libyan capital tripoli over the state of living conditions at some of the seven years of war following the foreign intervention in the country. also this hour as the battle for

we speak to a syria based journalist about life just kilometers away from the front line. the village has been pummeled by. terrorists in the outskirts of a hard a just a few clangers away and it's been on a daily basis over the past many years. and a top u.s. universities. creating a safe space for white students to discuss race issues we hear from both sides of the debate shortly. in moscow watching all the international live with me daniel hawkins welcome to the program. russia's ministry of defense claims it so identified the missile which brought down malaysia airlines flight seventy four years ago. saracens registration

numbers coupled with audio intercepts point to ukraine's apparent direct involvement for more on this let's speak to our correspondents at the ministry now we go thanks for joining us to put across the story what conclusions have the russian investigators arrived at. well danielle essentially what the russian defense ministry have done they took the official serial numbers provided by the official investigation by the joint investigative team that they found on the debris from the site of the downing of the mh seventeen boeing and the rocket which if sensually the official investigation blamed for the downing of this passenger jet and they searched for the mentions of that serial number in their own archive documents and what happened the russian defense ministry apparently found the actual passports of the over that very missile the passport has all sorts of information it essentially tracks the whole life cycle of

this rocket from the point when it was manufactured and which army unit. was armed with that rocket and here's what they found out have a listen. that's more can i get those words considering the momentum the manufacture date of the missile is the twenty fourth of december one thousand nine hundred six it was transported by train to the military base two zero one five two to tell you this base which still uses missiles of this type is in the ukrainian district evolve and since then after the dissolution of the soviet union the missile never returned to the territory of russia. the passport and all other relevant documents were actually brought to the room in fact they used to be top secret and the russian defense ministry haven't classify them for the sake of the probe for the sake of the investigation the also passed on all the data on the rocket to the official investigation and they are saying they're open to. everybody

to any inquiries any further questions that the official investigation may have in fact even us journalists had a chance to have a look with our own eyes at these these papers and also the second part of the presentation by the russian defense ministry included some footage analyzed before by the joint investigative team and the russian defense ministry says basically they've shown they're there examples of how they believe that footage was tampered with and the third part was probably was also a very interesting one and they purported to they purported to play to us a audio recording which the russian defense ministry says is a conversation between a ukrainian colonel with another officer and a lot of bombs dropped in that recording an edited by the russian defense ministry for the world for the very purpose of showing that they themselves did not tamper with the recording and well this is the key bit from it. me it's like you didn't

leave me alone. but for me what you think what it what. should you know if you were if you so would you. want that already dorman you love that already. well this colonel has been identified as one of the offices who is taking in taking part in what the in what kiev authorities are calling the anti-terrorist operation in the east of ukraine now all of that is according to the russian defense ministry of course now so right now all of this again has been passed on to the official investigation and the russian defense ministry are saying that they are ready to take any further quest for example air traffic control records but where it's just been produced through secret information it basically comes down to intelligence services say now of course that can also be corroborated if you like by voice print analysis and so on if the person who is allegedly identified in this can come forward or at least have some voice sample analyze but i think in this today's

disclosures the far more important evidence i suspect for the g o t will be especially the serial number concern because people are myself in a very outset have been keen to point out ukraine and russia have the book missile as well other countries so therefore in that field operations it could have come from either country notwithstanding the other evidence concerns and also of course the key element from the point of view of so-called russian guilt being found was this photograph trailer that palin cat website produced and if that is undermined that is very important not only for this investigation but also of course for everything else that palin kept produces i just want to come back briefly to the documents you mentioned it as you said it's very key piece of evidence that serial number and i suppose you wonder why that wasn't again you know looked at and traced earlier to the origins of where that missile was produced where it was based russia says ukraine will have copies of the documents civil documents as well obviously

tracking the well. about solve this missile do you think here from will produce those. i think it's very unlikely that care of well excuse me produce evidence that implicates itself of course it could argue that during the turbulent times in around the bringing down of m.h. seventeen of course there was a fairly high intensity conflict going on in that region excuse me. and it may well be that of course i argued at the time as a possibility nothing more than doubt that the rebels in those areas could have actually seized a ukrainian buck and then therefore even if it was ukrainian miss are could have still been brought down or be accidentally it would appear by rebels but ukraine thousand knight that has consistently said it wasn't missing any of it but missiles and so therefore of course if it turns out that now this was a ukrainian missile even if it was then subsequently alleged that actually sees this themselves that argument is now undermined by the ukraine authorities assertion at the time that they have not lost any missiles and so i think it's

unlikely that they would admit this but they should still going to produce trials for all of the other but missiles that ukraine regiments received junette time as part of the soviet union i just want to touch briefly on the sort of political aspect of this tragedy of course has been wide political economic fallout over the last few years over this but just as russia's defense ministry was giving that press conference presenting that evidence ukraine announce that it's none of the treaty on friendship cooperation and partnership between u.k. and the russian federation both former soviet states do you think that's a coincidence or is it some sort of response to last year presenting its version of events its new findings. again we've talked about why hasn't this emerged before and you wonder why ukraine hasn't revote this or even why russia hasn't voted of course the practical reality is that notwithstanding that for the rest of the world it appears that these two countries the russian federation and ukraine. at each

other's throats of course they are still very important trading partners economically there are close links and so of course. on the face of it they are very and tack on a stick towards one another behind the scenes some level of cooperation has to continue and so that probably explains that everything of course involved from the russian side in the ukraine itself in the u.k. u.s. side is has the input of so-called information management professionals p.r. people so i'm sure there's been some input. to this announcement from ukraine to try and distract attention from this but really of course the ukrainian media if they're free to do so of course should be now asking questions well let's see the ukrainian authorities now need c.p.i. to rebut refute these allegations from russia and let's see if they actually do that they are able to do it of course they can't produce the documents for me so that they would say they never own but what they can do is show the document trail for all the other missiles that came out which would show that actually this missile wasn't part of that original consignment because the numbers and types of

missiles that were deployed in ukraine or were actually part of ukrainian units subsequently the ukrainian armed forces will still be known most documents would still exist ok security analyst former u.k. army officer charles shubert thanks for your expert insight today on that latest evidence from the russian imo. and other headlines crowds have gathered in the midst lee admitted the aftermath was the biggest mistake of his presidency but that's likely to bring little comfort to the civilian still reeling in a shattered nation we spoke to a senior research. foreign policy institute who believes politicians didn't understand the consequences of their intervention. arc this is for lisa and the coalition government that i am they are them that this is what has happened at all that he's part of it but they are expressing some secrets about it so i am also they are saying that they that they did didn't understand but this was. what i did

that with. what may have the. fifteen. they've been mainly doing this but he really did these this unfold for the leader of the standing in that. they had us in the now if you look at in the agreement may not be in full force argued by almost all the key. players in this. obviously there are some of them sold the are the humanitarian reasoning and the most basic interest in. change getting rid of gaddafi i don't think that's necessarily old many people dismiss the. attack as presidents and russia fakih talks on the syria crisis will have the latest updates on that for you just after this short break.

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worlds apart. to look for common ground. welcome back to the program and to syria now in the region over the last major terrorist on rebel hotspot will dominate talks between the presidents of russia. and the russian city of sorcery with more details. is there a second to meeting in the last ten days last time at a summit in tehran the leaders couldn't agree on the future cause of action so today is a very important the fate of the last a major terrorist stronghold and we're talking about the province of is going to be discussed at this meeting we also believe that the two parties will discuss the syrian peace settlement as the turkish president has been calling quite unsuccessfully for

a cease fire declaration in the province of lip so where do russia and turkey stand well turkey fears that out large scale a fountain of against it will cause a new influx of refugees into its territory already is hosting over three and a half a million syrians so turkish officials are saying that they're ready to cooperate with anyone in fighting terrorism you know that the war with iran the war with the united states and. all our partners. in syria so the positions of all players are so very different and that is what makes the situation so complicated the u.s. say that they're not going anywhere until there is peace in the region they're also not at all happy about iran's participation and now a western politicians and mainstream media call the possible offensive a disaster and a big humanitarian tragedy without offering any solution on how to fight terrorism

apart from just simply bombing the army so wild turkey has been massing troops in the. russia has been carrying out its own military exercises so this meeting is and no other at tam for all parties to work out a position on the future cause of action our heads of the meeting with putin the president i want to stress the importance of taking steps against terror groups among rebel factions he also spoke about the need to find alternatives to the area on the what he defines as a pretext to fight terrorism now the u.n. estimates ten thousand dollars. terrorists remain in the province or poses a large threat not only to people living in the region but it was so into those bordering it last week reported on a man who lost his entire family in terrorist shutting off their village was targeted for being christian continuing to follow his story.

the other side of this of several days ago a rocket landed in front of my house of my mom wife and three children died over there i remember how i called home and no one picked up my friends came to me and said run home your family is injured you don't and i came here and saw my mom terribly wounded as i saw my children i took them to hospital straight away but it was too late all of them died. was that you know when they were martyred it was after they took. this one belongs to susi the youngest. this was freddy's and this was maria's. she says his bag. freddy's bag. this is stephanie's but.

this is maria's bag. this is maria's bag spoke about it to journalist eva bartlett who visited the village of mud just. about the situation in syria and also what western t.v. screens failed to show amid the upcoming battle. there i talk to the civil the sorry the national defense forces and they spoke at length about how the village has been pummeled by missiles from terrorists and it's been on a daily basis over the past many years and they said you know they've been suffering nobody is talking about it and they're looking forward to the liberation of it live because it will ease their suffering it will it will mean the sation of these terrorist acts and if the so these are the kind of things that the media which is

busy talking about. media which is busy talking about it are completely negating happening on a daily basis in one day. what syrians have spoken with around the country on previous visits and currently say they want a restoration of all of syria to peace and they want an end to the terrorism that's been plaguing them whether it is live or as we saw formerly in eastern before that in aleppo and it's their right to live in peace and it's also their right and the syrian the government of syria's right to fight such terrorism because we're not talking about the mythical moderate rebels we're talking about al qaeda we're talking about. and these are terrorists that have been torturing civilians and executing civilians wherever they happen to occupy. while the syrian and russian governments have been using tools of diplomacy if you'll recall they've opened humanitarian corridors they've offered amnesty and reconciliation to

terrorist who always lay down their weapons but on the contrary it's these factions within the lives that are saying we will kill any terrorist militants rebels that take whatever they want to call them we will kill them if they participate in amnesty and reconciliation so clearly yes there is a desire for a peaceful resolution to this and the syrian russian government has been offering tools for such a peaceful resolution of. the american university of maryland has issued leaflets advising them want students only to join a group called what's a way to discuss issues do you want to improve your ability to relate to and connect with people different from you soon. do you sometimes feel uncomfortable. during interactions with. minorities do you want to become a. this group of was a safe space for white students to explore their experiences questions reactions

and feelings the campus counseling center has now removed the flyers insisting they were misunderstood it's also changed the group's name to anti racism and ally building rip people are pretty divided on the issue. it's giving people a place to express their opinions on race and discuss important topics in a safer environment in general when people who are white discuss the topic it's seen as inherently racist why not didn't every identity group have their space and should not have a positive had gender and goal to be approved the way i interpret it is that white people are being the.