me a putin's a head i don't think that. a very good representation of british values which is freedom of press is very important to have that different view i mean he reappeared on iranian press t.v. as as the leader of the opposition and she also called the that that's burned in this country. i think treason is actually trying to divert attention from bragg's it and all the disputes within her own party and it's always easy to have a go at russia and also or you know in the olden days it was russia now it's iran the china lots of other things let's go on to kashmir then john wall national security adviser saying the i.c.c. is dead to the united states it's been dead to india for a long time do you suspect that the reason india does want to cooperate with the international criminal court in the room sajid's has something to do with your area of interest kashmir i.c.c. is a very important. tool actually to deter some of these oppressive regimes like

india saw all the abuses of human rights in indian occupied kashmir those people who are killed women who are raped i'm not saying this amnesty international physicians for human rights asia watch and now you will have the un human rights commission his report and the new initial version there but she didn't exactly call it out she said she wanted u.n. people to go and investigate what you are alleging saying that there's been no meaningful improvement no open or serious discussions with the modi government that following this report which was discussed and actually produced by the human rights human rights commissioner and the not only just criticized india but there is some criticism in pakistan side of us i'd question it as well but there are a lot of abuses of human rights systematic. sort of torturing of people and

also using pellet guns. as an instrument to silence people disappearance thinking counters it is a bit of history and these are two commonwealth nuclear armed countries mr modi clearly says there are terrorists in kashmir there are allied to islam is forces and there are terrorists like the mists that are in syria don't forget mordy was banned from united states and united kingdom before he got elected as prime minister because he has blood on his hands of what he did it in good heart so let's put that on side because hindu hume do extremists are assess and shift all those organizations that actually want to kill all the minorities and they want to rebut them back to hindu ism here they are the world's largest democracy the jury's still out there you have him is elected in the largest election ever saw was hitler so it was also democratically elected so made it clear that he doesn't want to rule in

the only sectarian basis whatsoever he says that but then if you look at his policies then you will understand very different because he supports r.s.s. r.s.s. the same people who are actually killed now he's praising gandhi out assess what the people who actually killed gandhi they are the ones who want to convert sikhs christians muslims buddhists everyone to hinduism because they want to create india and they also want to take pakistan back and bangladesh and the great indian world i've heard things like that even from the congress party in delhi but again he says it isn't pakistan's u.n. ambassador claim that the kashmir issue is comparable to the illegal occupation of palestine by the british backed israeli government has it really of the scale we're talking about when it comes to the illegal occupation of violence. i would say it's

even worse you know palestinians there are going through very very difficult time and i've been to gaza and i support palestinians all the time at every occasion but kashmiri you know palestinians have representation actually arab league and arab countries or you see and many other countries around the world have been supporting palestinians i mentioned that to yasser arafat once that he didn't support the kashmiri cause unfortunately for kashmiris or only pakistan or pakistani people have been supporting the people now that the abusers of human rights and i want to say thank you to russia today because russia gnaws. india has now started shifting its policy towards united states era for india. maybe it's linked to as for hundreds now they're not wanted to buy because americans are offering better deal to the visually india is labeled as

a consequence of the emerging partner of the troubled ministration what well because of china because of russia china and also russian policy internationally but i think more importantly the americans want to use the indians for defense purposes and that's why they want to supply defenseman quitman and also produce defense equipment in india you see i don't think that russia or any other country by supporting kashmir is doing anything wrong or do not need to be feeling guilty because this is a un body for god's sake this is an international body supported by the united nations the secretary general says that he supports the last high commissioner and all saw this new commissioners saw their statements represent the body. of united

nations views and so where there are abuses of human rights where people are being killed tortured abducted all they are saying is that kashmiri people deserve the same rights as everyone else and according to the united nations resolutions of one thousand nine hundred eighteen forty nine they should be given free fair and impartial plebiscite to decide their own future now i know you can say well that having elections elections all for november elections are for administration purposes you see elections we've been having in scotland and in wales for decades if not centuries but that wasn't the substitute for the referendum they've got to have their own assemblies so they can rule and they can govern their f. referendum recently they want to break away from the united kingdom so the plebiscite promised by the united nations security council is

a promise that they can have their free kashmir independent from india a independent from oppression independent from killing and rape on daily basis which exactly what the un human rights report says ok well the delhi as a said would know that but moscow and delhi say they have very good relations indeed or least through the brics summit you said that if pakistan alone fighting the corner of international law de facto but china. is pakistan's back always has traditionally in the old sense of russia used to back india what's china saying about kashmir i think chinese have been sympathetic with the kashmir cause and you can see from the last two or three years i in fact many years ago when i when i was appointed in the house of lords i went to see the chinese ambassador to talk about the five thousand square miles of which were gifted to china in one thousand nine

hundred sixty six when they had a war with india the chinese actually issued a statement in back about eighteen nineteen years ago and said if kashmir can get right of self-determination from india and they can be a free country we are prepared to give them their land back now i know you are going to be meeting with new leader imran khan what do you make of him saying taking two steps forward if india took one step or does he mean by that i think he is. as a leader he is offering peace and what he's saying is that both india and pakistan should spend money on eradication of poverty on economic development on peace rather than building up to war and also tension on the line of control and working boundaries cusiter the line of control because really nato is worrying about this nuclear on line of control that we have a war on terror we have

a war against islam ism and this and your a promotion of human rights in kashmir as you see it is somewhere promoting islam is absolute nonsense because the poor don't have any of religious agenda they have one agenda right of self-determination a lot of them are nationalists a lot of them want to be able to govern themselves they don't want occupational forces that will sit all christians hindus jews no no no they are majority muslim. and where there are where there are hindus and buddhists there is no tension there toward just briefly roger saying the home minister in the movie government has been saying of this month that drones will be part of the campaign against terrorism in kashmir you are of course. i don't i were to give drone warfare by nato nations what do you make of the i deeply worried because already the rogue army has been killing people so if they're using drawings i fear they will use cameras and then

they will use guns and they will use missiles sort i think the end up you know when india says that kashmir is part of india why do they need to use drones you normally use drawings for enemy of another country another country which is an enemy so you can shoot them down you don't do it against you or do we see any braun's in northern ireland or whales or scotland or anywhere else i mean the americans don't do it europeans don't do it any idea my guess is that russians don't use it india wants to use it because india north it's illegally occupying this land and people resist they don't resist with arms they resist by going on streets and shouting these are young people from students from colleges and schools who do it on regular basis the nominee thank you. amid revelations that.

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to. put themselves on the line they did accept the reject. so when you want to express. some want to be. actually going to be approached this is what the three of them will be good. i'm interested always in the water. welcome back you get home secretary taja job to do in the past few days has proposed extending the powers of stop and search is continuing his windrush road show this month as part of to raise a maze lessons learned review the aim is to gather personal accounts of those affected by the u.k. prime minister's hostile environment policy to prevent future deportations of black britons to the caribbean well someone who is arguably unparalleled experience documenting the experiences over the wind rushed generation is neil can look he was

the in the house photographer for the british black panthers and spent decades taking photos of those affected by hostile environments an exhibition of his work expectations is now on display at the black cultural archive in. dressed square in brixton south london going underground went there to speak with a real amazing photographs let's just about what you think of the event that's going on down here if absolutely thank you for coming to brixton i'm here with these images. are very close to my art. they inspire me you know they made. a record of the community. in terms of the true story of how you know we settled. in britain well lots of these pictures certainly wouldn't be recognizable in one thousand nine hundred advertising little earn our galleries tell me about first of all people know the u.s.

black panther movement tell me about the british black panther movement that is chronicled here years of. rock on the they were like educational. they were like the american no walk around with guns and all of that it was just to inspire katy that educated community i mean it was a great education for me and the working class boy who brought up in brixton we believe that we couldn't go beyond a certain point by point a movement and you can they you know they're not teach us about we gave and how we. i understand the system. because before that i didn't understand capitalism socialism and all that sort of stuff but the black panther movement would give us that sort of strength and energy that we could not look at somebody and say no you're not doing it right you know

this is how it should be you know we understood socialism and capitalism and and how to approach you know people tell me about the photograph of george barry the first black and bricks together george barry would like a iconic man who. we're very serious about his business he own a pub in brixton and he spent a fortune or innovate in. that part of it went on to sleep on one night and return the next day where the pub was totally burnt out got it it was devastated and invited me to look at that and this was a racist attack yeah absolutely it was the national front of the time that did those things if not were what injustice problem it was also other building on

religion road and also the graffiti in balam. that was also. damage so the national front went around south london it went as far as mitchum by learned stratum everywhere and the old idea was to create this style environment so that we would go back which is all nonsense you know we were put in slavery work for hundreds of years at the end of the day when it was not economical enough the british decided that they would leave us in the caribbean and they left us when the problem comes with the war and two million. white soldiers died they came back again an ox of about we came and now things are going well mr powell decided to create this bill to repatriate us in york to

yes only jamie corbin is being compared to be a witness that's not. certainly not there another picture of the people in that age seventy certainly recognize that alone maybe maybe today the keep it and white picture in this exhibition the view was you know. we should you know about who we should return back to where we are where we came from the cabin and the national front which were the races organization under grown up and i think that decided to go around in london and you know the face building owned by black people burned some of them and then they went down to balad and. where they had a project for young black women because the people this is in the in the west end and in the city of london refused to lower young black women so

this organization international person decided to set up a project to train young black women shorten typing in an office skills. so that with what the purpose of the organization with about and the national front went there and graffiti the old building that's the keeper in white photo that you've seen they'll be about all grown up and the nurse who in a way is emblematic of that contribution to british public services that recently been in the news of course because of all start environment tears from a creator with whoa whoa she. fantastic and my wife thought so and i went to dunstable newton to collect my wife and i went into the the room that she occupied and i saw this photo of. perfect dress shoes the pen what is

and she would incredible professional that wanted to make a great like in britain but there were many colors working in the n.h.s. and yet to take us back a little jail the media representations of people of color were like during the seventy's whether it be television sitcoms comedians. the tabloid newspapers. i think they would like the euro because when a black person more than t.v. you know everybody in the us would call come down quickly did about money on t.v. come quick and we were rushed to look and great you know it's a different environment now you know we are more inclusive and more images out there more people doing great things what did you feel than the present prime minister when she was oh secretary there were vans going around the streets saying . we patrie ation may be an option for you with some echoes there of because they were i just thought it was nonsense really you know it's not going to happen

because we're embedded in this country we work with we slave for this country nobody apologize and now nobody you know decided to compensate of the terrible times when i first came here with bombs fighter where you know and you know even my own crew my father. all my relatives work hard to build the contra back because other say two million british man died in the war and there weren't enough labor power in this country so we were called in a second time and we did our job worked out and it's just unfair for us to be repatriated back to the caribbean sitting down looking at the sun dock not right appearing to mislead the government committee lost the home secretary amber road here in this country words you're feeling the theresa may now as a lessons learned review into the handling of the wholesale deportation of

black britons you know what i think is unfortunate i'm sure she may have looked at it and decide to take a different route and that route sure that it's. that road should be to educate. our community and to create jobs and to give opportunity. to young people that's my concern young people who are not lazy the present conservatism sector is deserving of apparently a rude shoe to hear from people affected by the the deportations policy well that's a good start but what we need to do we need to see fear of temp fear of opportunity for us you know business people i think be the key part of it when they need to make sure that young boy would probably educated and he could not put unity for the future because that's a real problem in our community you know they feel the disenfranchised so they need

support government need to look at that and see how. they could help push the community forward so i think the government need to work harder on education education the key you need to make sure that our community cation. i know with a tough one but i think what is really needed better education opportunity for jobs . for development and so for as we will continue to feel like they will continue unless government step in and do more she said the british black panthers told you about capitalism socialism is this big movement jimmy cliff was on this show a while back it was couldn't hide is just changed over prime minister david cameron and there are always a political angle in this photograph. i don't think what i would trying to do is to document something that people could see and it could inspire younger people and i

think that was really one of my main aims to say look you know can look through this photo but you can do better so i wanted them to do things better than me and i know dick. than. anything the inspiration for all these images that take the inspiration to the young people who are going to do better than me i don't know whether it's journeying back to the seventy's but it's that's being blamed by black people as being blamed for a crime that the government saying that they should ban and music and that's to blame for crime what did you think of well i don't think that's sensible you cannot find it because they'll get it anyway i mean you had a very successful community radio station which went to taken over by corporate as it were would you be playing drill music i don't think so. but what what we did was to give access. to things of artists.

to. promotion of the culture of music and we took like nineteen coaches to agree on what because many inner city people have never been to the seaside so we in in our time i actually think we need to take that one and they were really excited about going out of london and seeing what they see look like you know do the thing that we used to do apart from promoting. the jobs. and development. so. that he might return to brew gusting after the success of choice. i would love to hope young people to be broadcasting i think is a great weapon. fantastic weapon to promote i

rated the image you can move very quickly much faster than television you know you could say something on the radio and food in no time there were about it the radio is good and i think the government should look closer into the black community and give them their. broadcloth and spectrum you know we don't have the we don't have proper commercial radio like in america around the country we don't have that opportunity you know to play our music to talk about new things to divert them from crime you know we haven't got the opportunity and i think the government should do something about that. thank you. radio pioneer and british black panther photographer neil can look speaking to be there in brixton if you're in london and want to go to the exhibition expectations is running at the black cultural archive there until the twenty eighth of september that's after the show will be back on wednesday with results from a recall petition it could lead to one down the jury's abased

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