breaking news for you this hour in a diplomatic breakthrough russia and turkey agree to form a demilitarized zone in between syrian government forces and militants there. being that serious a planned operation against terrorists put on hold. the russian defense ministry tracks the serial number of the missing link by the official investigation for the downing of the mh seventeen in these top secret documents

unclassified of course for the sake of the probe the rocket to ukraine's forces. first erupted in the libyan capital on sunday over living conditions and that is amid seven years of war following foreign intervention in the country. also a top u.s. universities sparked outrage after creating a safe space for white students to discuss race issues we'll be hearing both sides of that debate. good evening to you thanks for joining us this is r.t. international where we start this hour with breaking news for you she is where the russian and turkish presidents have agreed to form a they've made that agreement there to form a demilitarized zone in the area is the last remaining terrorist stronghold in

syria. so. to create by fifteen by the fifteenth of october this year to create a demand it's a rise. of fifteen to twenty kilometers between the territories controlled by the militarism the third is controlled by the syrian government and we're hoping to move militants including the. front militants to move them away from the zone. ok let's go live now to sochi our correspondent in the coach who has been following events. on the line now we just explained what's happened what's the impact going to be in your opinion for the terrorist situation in syria. well a very important decisions were made during hours a long talks between russia and turkey no one could possibly imagine such an outcome so we can call it truly unexpected or even

a sensational now both sides both presidents of turkey and russia managed to work out a plan that no one thought off now as they have decided to create a dim militarized zone between militants and government troops and therefore avoid further escalation escalation in the region that so many other parties were afraid off and now the russian president also added that they agreed to remove heavy military equipment from the area they agreed to organize patrols and of the province of idlib are they agreed to restore transport letterman prudence and that they he believes that well and he hopes that this will give a new impulse to a quicker resolution of the crisis in syria so answering your question this decision that was made here during this talks and so much we could have a a great impact on the situation and the province of idlib which. we lost

a major terrorist stronghold in syria. many thanks as a correspondent in the culture of ringers are the latest from such. the united nations estimates ten thousand down and down those retiree's remain in the province posing a threat not only to those who live there but also to people in the bordering regions . so in bags he's a professor of international relations a dangerous middle east technical university joins me now very good to you professor this deescalation zone. is it fair to say this was an unexpected move. by russia considering earlier we we heard them say that military action was necessary they were going to drive out remaining militants. i think candy decision is very important indeed it least at the moment there is no floor of

migration there is no fighting there is no expected clashes between the government forces and the radical groups i think diplomatically speaking both president. betty on expected result in a positive. in the long run probably does demetre eyes now on will be the way where the radical groups leave the area not only the people but also the veterans and after fifteen of october as president putin said most probably did. will be certainly cleaned up from most radical groups as the turkish president was indicating that turkey is still supporting certain groups the opposition groups or they will be staying down so i think this is. between russia and turkey is such an unexpected result thanks probably to around that round that we are not

going to take part in any operation in the areas three counties from. treaty to turkey and russia probably will not solve the problem for ever but it leaves for a. situation that the earth was looking for a military confrontation is not going to be realized i think the meeting between the two presidents indicated once again how these two countries will continue in the future of the restructuring of syria and the region together there is a very good diplomatic political and military cooperation between two countries after today's meeting and just a follow up on do you think that this was just the best solution that was available to vladimir putin or something happened to making change direction and head towards

this demilitarized zone. i think it is the second best solution the first would have been fighting and pushing call the military. operations there but the turkish side from the very beginning was indicating although we differ here. thousands of people would defeat really uncertain world turkey i think you're putin is a good chess player he was thinking tries before he was in the final solution to the military operation listen to thirty two for create this day militarized zone which is not forever our traditional lasting solution but it is a temporary solution and we will see how in the coming weeks the radical groups will find the opportunity to leave the area and the government forces later on will

feel this. control totally together with the russian had but for turkey is also important the third opposition groups supported by turkey from the very beginning are facing now safe haven the support of turkey and they are very thankful to turkey the turkish. government whether they will talk to each other directly probably in the future right they did moment it is the second best solution i will say for both sides. very well saying is going to have this demilitarized zone it's going to it's going to stop conflicts will it be that easy today would you think it will reduce the number of clashes between the militants and the government forces. likelihood is there definitely about the turkish military and the direction military will patrol

together like in men beach the turkish american troops during this probably there will be much better coordination also in this respect turkey is in italy the turkish troops. turkey will get also some control points which will add up and make it easier for the for russia to be there and to get the most radical groups out of the area i think turkey is in direct lead helping that the expectation expectations of russia will be fulfilled what russia wants to get out or to get off from all this radical islamist groups which will be most probably the case in the coming weeks so then it will be much easier for turkey and for russia to control the area but if the operation would have started today most probably there will be a lot of really. there will be

a lot of very negative developments for each side probably draws the best military and diplomatic solution to this is as i do see this. the u.s. has been taking an increasing interest in in the region have how do you think the states will react to this. i think the american fervor with surprise. the end of the day because of their lives nor clash nor come from patients or turkey is now just plain between russia and america the balance of power policy justified and. expectations but did you see him time also turkey. fulfilling her expectations that there is no refugee there's no migration to world order which was very much fear here in turkish public and in turkish press in the

recent weeks i think that they did moment the inflow of the civilians have been stopped it is maybe the success of the day. there are so many moving parts in in syria apart from anti government forces as they will describe themselves flat out terrorists you've got government pro-government troops you've got other nations from outside in that how does this play out as we look forward i mean you can't maintain this forever how does this develop. exactly. exactly desire i say it is not the last and forever it is the temporary solution we will see how in the coming weeks this radical groups. will be vitality if you want from this region not by military operation but by this providing the opportunity to leave the region through this damn militarized zone

which will be most probably the case as in some other parts of the world we had this example there is another try not to arm the civilian people in the region the number is more than three million i mean this is everybody's interest that the civilian casualties should be left as much as possible but at one point you are right it is not everlasting issue and the government forces and russian forces will be there what turkey is doing that probably is the role of facilitator to make it easier because turkey is also responsible for the territorial integrity of syria according to the us plan a treaty or so from this perspective church is to my mind playing a very crucial and careful role and both presidents the talk today

indicates again that they understood each other and they have given more time to each other the radical groups have now opportunity and time to leave the area which will also help for the government forces to take control in the long run the main idea of all these operations is to get the area under the regime control and the territorial integrity of syria must be a cheat what turkey say is the right. the opposition groups from the truck of support from the very beginning probably they will be not able to of course get. regime away but they have to find some other alternatives or maybe some other negotiation. fortunately to get some political concessions i don't know whatever it will be but i can only say that the recent

regime is getting stronger with today's decision the. definitely in the long run will be the winner side and the turkey probably in the future will become the most important economic actor for the reconstruction of all these areas together with russia i think there are there new cooperation between russia and turkey in economic terms not only in military terms but all the economy terms in the areas where both sides have their expectations and today probably the will go home with a very good result at least that there is no fight there is more casualties there is normal it or operation for today and saying thanks for your time my guest is the same bag she professor of international relations at anchor is middle east

technical university good evening to you. and to other news now russia's defense ministry says that it has identified the missile which brought down malaysia airlines flight m h seventeen back in two thousand and fourteen comparisons of registration numbers coupled with the audio intercepts point they say to you cranes direct involvement because donna breaks down the findings. so what the russian defense ministry has done is they took the serial number of the missing child published earlier by the official investigation and the joint investigative team say that they took that serial number from a piece of the debris from the actual crash site so they blamed that very message directly for the downing of the mh seventeen passenger jet so the russian defense ministry they took that serial number and match them try to find mentions of it in its own archive documents and what they found was actually the passport of that very missile that which tracks the whole life cycle of that missile back from the

moment when it was produced manufactured in u.s.s.r. to the point also showing which exact army unit was armed with that missile and here's what the russian defense ministry found out that those work at the manufacture date of the missile is the twenty fourth of december one thousand nine hundred six it was transported by train to the military base two zero one five to today this base which still uses missiles of this type is in the ukrainian district evolve and since then after the dissolution of the soviet union the missile never returned to the territory of russia. now that passport and some other relevant documents they used to be top secret and now they have been unclassified for the sake of the investigation in fact they were displayed in the room where the briefing was held so all journalists well mean colluded had a chance to have a look at them with their own eyes the second part of the briefing the russian defense ministry showed some video some amateur footage that was previously

analyzed by the official investigation and the russian defense ministry showed how they believe that footage was tampered with and the third part the we were given a listen to an audio recording which was said to be a conversation between a ukrainian colonel and some other ukrainian officer and well a lot of bombs left in there on purpose by the russians. ministry to show that they did not do alter or edit that well that recording in any way and here is the key bits from it was me a dork it was really true. but for me what you would have thought. we should do more if you were if you. want don't already dorman your mother who already now official ukraine has already branded this new information that the russian defense ministry has brought to light as fake but russian and stern is saying that they are open to scrutiny that they are ready indeed to pass on these new documents to the

joint investigative team to the official investigation and they can very fine the authenticity of those documents all by themselves so definitely a new twist in the investigation of the downing of m h seventeen. back in july of two thousand and fourteen the m a seventeen boeing flying from amsterdam to the malaysian capital kuala lumpur crashed in the donetsk region just as the conflict in east ukraine escalated eighty children were among the almost three hundred people on board who were killed. russia's just said that the new materials have been handed over to a representative of the dark side of the investigation meanwhile the joint investigation team earlier reacted to the nearly released documents saying that they are ready to examine them soon as they're provided by moscow experts told as this new evidence is important for the investigation. i hope they would take it seriously and take what evidence the russians can provide i mean they they've refused to take a lot of evidence over the last few years seemingly more content to just

immediately point the finger to russia within the first few days after the incident i think it should absolutely impact the overall investigation russia said right from the start of this investigation that they should be included in it and were excluded so it just came down to the dutch ukrainians the australians and malaysians we have a situation where the evidence as presented by the russians today actually seems to back up some already publicly disclose some very important information released by the joint investigation team while on the fact that this is very important new evidence has been presented by the russian defense ministry it's only just been released we're going to have to look at it in great detail and of course that's going to be the position that the joint investigation team will i'm sure take they will be came to look at it and also be keen to be seen to be looking at this evidence very closely it's a very it's a fairly obvious piece of evidence actually the only imagine the jade has been expecting to receive or at least of wanted to receive the fact that they were

bitter identify the missile concerned through at least partial or full serial numbers of course the next obvious step would be to trace and track work that happened with the missile from the point of its manufacture to the point of its destruction or deployment or scrapping and that's what the russians seem to have done by filling in that missing picture. crowds gathered in the libyan capital on sunday calling for the president another top politicians to quit they were protesting over the disastrous situation in the country which remains in deep political crisis as armed struggle broke out seven years ago libya remains divided by rival governments and armed groups. or government based in tripoli backed by the u.n. the other is in controls a large part of the east of the country some zones as the. controlled by militias and isis is after they helped ignite the violence some european countries are now starting to express regret their involvement in the night of the intervention in

libya reports. in march of two thousand and eleven norway committed to the military intervention in libya leading to the ousting of gaddafi and the ruin country we see today but a shock norwegian state commission report now admits the country knew next to nothing about what they were doing and actually went to war relying on media reports norway had very limited knowledge of libya when the uprising started in february twenty eleven in such situations decision makers often malone information from media and other countries colonel gadhafi continues to slaughter his own civilians and he viciously targeted americans the international community offered the final chance to stop his campaign of killing or face the consequences for attacks by regime forces on the libyan citizens when they turned to us and asked us for help stopping a massacre how do you say no so also jumped on the bandwagon playing an alarmingly

significant role and why shouldn't they it was by the book there was even a un security council resolution on the situation to cover them if you ignore all the commentators warning the resolution did not green flag the mass bombing of libya norway's report also reveals there was practically no one else this before jumped in. the room. indicating that before deciding to send warplanes to libya the government assist the type of conflict norway was taking part in. now that failure could hardly have had more serious consequences the country now lies in ruins seven years on libya is still being ripped apart by rival governments well wishers armed to the teeth and islamist militants just last week i saw them for sponsibility for a shooting that killed two and wounded ten more at the headquarters of the state oil company at the top of the slaughter there were invited to come over to the

government by the way. perhaps unsurprisingly some politicians in norway are now distancing themselves a man convicted of mass murder and slavery at ash was a german company develops in the denied a drug that was promoted as completely safe eason jordan pregnancy. it turned out to have terrible side effects what has happened to my baby anything. is just. minutes a little mind victims have to this day received no compensation and never apologized for the suffering. not only want the money i want the revenge. first of maryland has issued leaflets inviting white students to join

a group called white awake to discuss race issues. do you want to improve your ability to relate to and connect with people different from yourself. do you sometimes feel uncomfortable and confused before during interactions with racial and ethnic minorities do you want to become a better ally this group of was a safe space for white students to explore their experiences questions reactions and feelings. the campus counseling center has now removed the flyers insisting they were misunderstood it also changed the group's name to anti racism and ally building group of people are divided on the issue. it's giving people a place to express their opinions on race and discuss important topics in a safer environment in general when people who are white discuss the topic it's seen as inherently racist why not to don't every identity group have their space

and should not have a positive had gender and goal to be approved the way i interpret it is that white people are being victimized by interacting with us from my understanding it's simply a space for white students to get woke and learn to dismantle dangerous social preconceptions they might have these uncomfortable conversations but necessary for social progress the only harm i see is that becoming a white affinity group put the issue of a debate with political activist antony rogers right and social commentator and me brian logan. i think that i'm not sure why white people would need to feel safe on a college campus person formalised i don't think that they are in any imminent danger and they certainly are in any more danger than say muslim students certainly students of color i think that as we heard from some of the students the poor execution you know the name of the group having to change from white to weight is

an indication that they pretty much aren't very educated on the issues of racism in the first place personally i don't see anything wrong with have been a group that is one particular race or the has one particular race and it's i do you can so shape with whatever you want to associate with you can have a white group black group asian group and all these other groups exist there's never any kind of problem nobody says anything about and i see no organization on campus the black organization on campus and age an organization on campus but we have a white organization all of that is a problem either we have many groups there are no specific groups or we allow all of them yeah so so two things i mean i think we have to be clear and stating that first of all people of color especially black people can and cannot be racist ok because racism only is when janitors and racial prejudice there is no there's no debate as race racism is not something that you can just turn on the tone and on off color anybody could be racist that that's not true you have to have power to be

racist you have to have power black people don't have power most latin next people don't have power native american people don't have power now i would deny that black and brown people can be bigoted but that is different from racism racism is racial prejudice i mean power issues that have.