little mine victims i have to this day received no compensation they never apologized for the suffering that. i want the revenge. breaking news for you this hour in a diplomatic breakthrough russia and turkey have agreed to form a. syrian government forces and militants in moscow adds syria's planned operation against terrorist group be put on hold. the russian defense ministry tracks the serial number of the missing link by the official investigation for the downing of the mh seventeen these top secret documents unclassified of course for the sake of the probe the rocket to ukraine's forces. near the news

protests erupted in the libyan capital sunday of a living conditions some in seven years of war following foreign intervention in the country. plus a top u.s. universities sparked outrage after creating a safe space for white students to discuss race issues we'll be hearing from both sides of the argument. thanks for joining us this hour this is all t. international. we will start this hour with breaking news the russian in turkish presidents have agreed to create a demilitarized zone in syria could lay the ground for a final push against terrorists in the province as the area is the last remaining extremist stronghold in the country. we decided to create along the battle line

to militarize. it will be from a few who want to. move will move. the un estimates ten thousand dollars for terrorists remain and there are problems posing a threat not only to those but also to the people in the bordering regions the question on how to deal with the terrorists well that is dominated international talks for weeks between the coach and has more on the latest developments. very important decisions were indeed made during this hour or so long talks between russia and turkey the deescalation zone was hanging in the year during the negotiations but the two leaders seem to disagree all the way through that's why this particular agreement which was so force of the press conference came as a surprise to so many now of the both sides agreed to create

a demilitarized zone between the militants and a government troops of around fifteen to twenty kilometers by the fifteenth of october and also during the press conference of the turkish president said that to gather with russia they will radek a terrorism in the region. together with russia we will make maximum effort to get rid of radical groups from this territory turkey and russia will patrol this territory to ensure compliance right after the talks are russia's defense minister announced that there is going to be no military offensive on their p. also added that all of the details of the agreement which was a reach today will be discussed with the syrian government of very soon during the upcoming talks the situation in the province of idlib has been a crucial topic of discussions for weeks on the international stage between syria russia turkey the u.s. and iran so now this decision is surely important as it eases this threat of

escalation on the ground. the russia ticket deals already gone reaction in the us establishment this intelligence chief calling the move quote encouraging same by cheaper fessor of international relations at ankara's middle east technical university says the two leaders have taken a crucial step towards syrian peace the decision is very important indeed it leaves thirty more months there is no floor of migration there is no fighting there is no expected clashes between the government forces and the radical groups i think . speaking both president. mehdi army expected result in a positive. in the long run probably does the militarized zone will be the way where the radical groups believe. not only the people but also.

after fifteen or for president putin said more of probably. will be third to make cleaned up from most radical groups i think the meeting between two presidents indicated once again how these two contraries will continue in the future for the restructuring of. the region together. russia's defense ministry says it's identified the vessel which brought down malaysia airlines flight m h seventeen i can two thousand and fourteen comparisons of registration numbers coupled with audio intercepts point russia claims to ukraine's direct involvement breaks down the findings. so what the russian defense ministry has done is they took the serial number of the missing child published earlier by the official investigation and the joint investigative team say that they took that serial number from a piece of the debris from the actual crash site so they blamed that very message

directly for the downing of the mh seventeen passenger jet so the russian defense ministry they took that serial number and match them try to find mentions of it in its own archive documents and what they found was actually the passport of that very mess of that which tracks the whole life cycle of that missile back from the moment when it was produced manufactured in u.s.s.r. to the point also showing which exact army unit was armed with that missile and here's what the russian defense ministry found out that those work at the manufacture date of the missile is the twenty fourth of december one thousand eight hundred six it was transported by train to the military base two zero one five two today it is a base which still uses missiles of this type is in the ukrainian destructible evolve and since then after the dissolution of the soviet union the missile never returned to the territory of russia. now that passport and some other relevant

documents they used to be top secret and now they have been unclassified for the sake of the investigation in fact they would displayed in the room where the briefing was held so all journalists will mean colluded had a chance to have a look at them with their own eyes the second part of the briefing the russian defense ministry showed some video some amateur footage that was previously analyzed by the official investigation and the russian defense ministry showed how they believe that footage was tampered with and the third part the we were given a listen to an audio recording which was said to be a conversation between a ukrainian colonel and some other ukrainian officer and well a lot of bombs left in there on purpose by the russians. fence ministry to show that they did not alter or edit that well that recording in any way and here is the key bits from it was me about getting me a live. report for me what you would it what. should you know if you were if you

saw it would you. want that already but the woman you love the reality now official ukraine has already branded this new information that the russian defense ministry has brought to light as fake but russian it stern is saying that they are open to scrutiny that they are ready indeed to pass on these new documents to the joint investigative team to the official investigation and they can very fine the authenticity of those documents by themselves so definitely a new twist in the investigation over the downing of m h seventeen. well back in july of two thousand and fourteen you may seventeen boeing flying from amsterdam to the malaysian capital kuala lumpur crashed in need a net squeege and just as the conflict in east ukraine escalated eighty children were among the almost three hundred people on board who were killed. russia said the new materials had been handed over to a brit presented to the dutch side of the investigation meanwhile the joint investigation team early reacted to the newly released documents saying that they

were ready to examine the missing as they were provided by moscow experts have told us this new evidence is important for the investigation. i hope they would take it seriously and take what evidence the russians can provide i mean they they've refused to take a lot of evidence over the last few years seemingly more content to just immediately point the finger to russia within the first few days after the incident i think it should absolutely impact the overall investigation russia said right from the start of this investigation that they should be included in it and were excluded so it just came down to the dutch ukrainians the australians the malaysians we have a situation where the evidence as presented by the russians today actually seems to back up some already publicly disclose some very important information released by the joint investigation team while on the fact that this is very important new evidence that's been presented by the russian defense ministry it's only just been released we're going to have to look at it in great detail and of course that's going to be the position that the joint investigation team will i'm sure take they

will be came to look at it and also be keen to be seen to be looking at this evidence very closely it's a very it's a fairly obvious piece of evidence actually there and imagine the jade i've been expecting to receive or at least i've wanted to receive the fact that they were bitter identified the missile concerned through at least partial or full serial numbers of course the next obvious step would be to trace and track work that happened with the missile from the point of its manufacture to the point of its destruction or deployment or scrapping and that's what the russians seem to have done by filling in that missing picture. crowds gathered in the libyan capital on sunday calling for the president and other top politicians to quit protesting the disastrous situation in the country which remains a deep political crisis since armed struggle broke out seven years ago maybe remains divided by rival governments and armed groups. on government

space in tripoli by the un there's into broken controls a large part of the east of the country some zones are still controlled by militias and isis is after they helped ignite the violence some european countries are now starting to express regret their involvement in the nato intervention. reports. in march of two thousand and eleven norway committed to the military intervention in libya leading to the ousting of gadhafi and the ruin country we see today but a shock norwegian state commission report now admits the country knew next to nothing about what they were doing and actually went to war relying on media reports norway had very limited knowledge of libya when the uprising started in february twenty eleven in such situations decision makers or information from media and other countries colonel gadhafi continues to slaughter his own civilians and he viciously targeted americans the international community offered

the final chance to stop his campaign of killing or face the consequences for attacks by regime forces on the libyan citizens when they turned to us and asked us for help stopping a massacre how do you say no so awful jumped on the bandwagon playing an alarmingly significant role and why shouldn't they it was by the book there was even a un security council resolution on the situation to cover them if you ignore all the commentators warning the resolution did not green flag the mass bombing of libya norway's report also reveals there was particularly no one else this before jumped in and. there are no written sources indicating that before deciding to send warplanes to libya the government assist the type of conflict norway was taking part in now that failure could hardly have had more serious consequences the country now lies in ruins seven years on libya is still being ripped apart by rival governments well wishers armed to the teeth and islamist militants just last week i

saw play and responsibility for a shooting that killed two and wounded ten more at the headquarters of the state oil company at the top of the slaughter there were infighting among the oil for the government by the way oh oh. oh oh perhaps unsurprisingly some politicians in norway are now distancing themselves from the decision given what we know today this was a war for a regime change norway should not have participated in the libyan war when you look at what happened next with libya becoming a terrorism hotspot this is not a decision to be proud of. of course they're not the first to come to that sorry conclusion the u.k. parliament got there two years ago this report determines the u.k. policy in libya before and since the intervention of march two thousand and eleven

was founded on a road use assumptions and an incomplete understanding of the country and the situation and barack obama infamously admitted the aftermath was the biggest mistake of his presidency but that's likely to bring little comfort to the civilian still reeling in the shattered nation. senior researcher at the norwegian foreign policy institute told us politicians didn't understand the consequences of the intervention. are. the coalition government aren't they but them that this is what has happened that all of that is part of it but they are expressing the rarity gets of it. also they are saying that they did that they didn't understand but. without that with. what may have the. difference or they've been mainly doing this for the military and these this and the old boy the leader of the standing in. red as you know that.

may not be in full force all reviewed by some of the key. players in this. obviously there are some of them for the humanitarian reasoning you know. basically in just. received change getting rid of gadhafi i don't think that's necessarily all many people dismiss the. u.s. envoy has accused russia of violating sanctions against north korea nikki haley's claims came at a meeting of the u.n. security council in new york the united states says evidence of consistent and wide ranging russian violations one russian vessel called the patriot was captured on film transferring refined petroleum to a north korean controlled vessel in april of this year that is un listed last month the independent panel of experts on the employment taishan of north korean

sanctions submitted its by annual report to the sanctions committee. the report contained evidence of multiple russian sanction violations we have seen and read this report. but when the panel submitted the report to the security council last week we noticed something deeply troubling. the evidence of russian violations that was detailed in the earlier report was missing. it had been removed from the open section of the report apparently russia threatened to prevent release of the report unless its demands to hide the evidence of its knowledge since was met we then heard a response after these these series of allegations were made by the us representative nikki haley after she spoke and made all kinds of allegations against russia we heard a response from the representative of the russian federation now he proceeded to desex these allegations and claims and before he did that he pointed out that it

was interesting that a meeting about north korea seemed to be turning into a meeting about russia. regarding the time which allegedly violates its think sions the group has concluded that it did not complete the claim that we pull to the report containing violations by russian companies is not true these claims with the policy of my. own pyongyang which the u.s. is trying to take control of the un security council i have a feeling sometimes that the u.s. confuses the un security council with its own u.s. national security council so now the russian ambassador also criticized the united states for blocking railway connections between north and south korea saying that intercollegiate dialogue should be encouraged as they move ahead to try and resolve the nuclear issue on the peninsula one thing that stood out in the remarks from the russian ambassador was that he pointed out that a lot of progress has been made he said just

a year ago it seemed like the security council was frequently meeting to discuss north korea but now we've seen a meeting between the head of state of the united states and the head of state of north korea meeting has taken place progress is being made and that that optimism should be the way this issue is being approached that a lot of progress is being made in the situation is. moving ahead so quite an interesting meeting we've heard those allegations against russia from the united states and then we also heard the representative of russia responding and asserting those allegations. the u.s. university of maryland has issued leaflets inviting white students to join a group called one to wake up to discuss race issues. do you want to improve your ability to relate to and connect with people different from yourself do you sometimes feel uncomfortable and confused before during more of the interactions with racial and ethnic minorities do you want to become

a better ally this group of was the safe space for white students to explore their experiences questions reactions and feelings the campus counseling centers now removed the flyers insisting they were misunderstood it's also changed the group's name is now the anti racism and ally building three people are divided over the issue. is giving people a place to express their opinions on race and discuss important topics in a safer environment in general when people who are white discuss the topic it's seen as inherently racist why not two don't every identity group have their space and should not have a positive had to end goal to be approved the way i interpret it is that white people are being victimized by interacting with us for a minder standing it's simply a space for white students to get work and learn to dismantle dangerous social preconceptions they might have these uncomfortable conversations but necessary for

social progress the only harm i see is that becoming a white affinity group. we probably should have a debate with political activist anthony of i'm just right and social commentator anthony bryan look at i think that i'm not sure why white people would need to feel safe on a college campus person formalised i don't think that they are in any imminent danger and they certainly are in any more danger than say muslim students certainly students of color i think that as we heard from some of the students the poor execution you know the name of the group having to change from white to weight is an indication that they pretty much aren't very educated on the issues of racism in the first place personally i don't see anything wrong with have been a group that is one particular race or they has one particular race and it's i do you can so shape with whatever you want to associate with you can have a white group black group asian group and all these other groups exist there's

never any kind of problem nobody says anything about and i see no organization on campus the black organization on campus and age an organization on campus but we have a white organization all of that is a problem either we have many groups there are no specific groups or we allow all of them yeah so so two things i mean i think we have to be clear and stating that first of all people of color especially black people can and cannot be racist ok because racism as we share it is an racial prejudice there is no there's no debate as race racism is not something that you can just turn on it's own off color anybody could be racist that that's not your you have to have power to be racist you have to have power black people don't have power most next people don't have power native american people don't have power now i would deny that black and brown people can be bigoted but that is different from racism racism is racial prejudice i mean it's power that according to you say today you have to have power to be

racist i mean when did i definition become the standard like i never seen it before is that it's. hello everybody i mean i mean i don't think that like we can go by dictionary that was written mainly by white people to force standard definition on an issue like racism as we saw in the scene in mexico spike lee's movie when you look at that dictionary and just look at the definitions of white and black you can already see implicit bias and racial prejudice right right just those two words that were in this particular group i think that they were more on the extreme liberal side they're trying to actually come together and help those people of color people just sort of flier automatically get offended without taken it down to really understand what's going on that's why he changed his name because he didn't want anybody to just think automatically oh we're some kind of racist hateful group they're really on the side of the left i think this right here igs an example of the left eating their own. can't get back to our top story this hour the russian

and turkish presidents have agreed to create a demilitarized zone in middle of the provinces the last remaining terrorist stronghold in syria. with use only to create along the battle lines are going to militarize only by october. it will be from fifteen to twenty kilometers wide and we will move ready to go as militants others. who say they believe to be together with russia we will make maximum effort to get rid of all radical groups from this territory and turkey and russia will patrol this territory to ensure compliance. well the u.n. estimates ten thousand al-qaeda and on this retire risk remain in it or province posing a threat not only to those living there but also to people in bordering regions the question about how to deal with the terrorists has dominated international talks for weeks the russia turkey deal is already garnering reaction though the u.s. establishment its intelligence chief called the move quote encouraging. speaking

out to us is al guy shinies a middle east politics expr. condi joins me this evening welcome. the deescalation was it an unexpected move because russia had previously said it was going to you know force the option to full sounds the remaining militants instead is going for this this is we surprised. firstly thank you very much for having me and good evening. i think when it comes to the broader discourse of the syrian civil war. i think it is certainly an achievement that there is a an agreement and i think some would not find it. i will find it very difficult to first see any kind of agreement however i think would begin the context of these days now especially the relations of the people who are or the international

relations of the of the members that are involved in. this agreement so russia and turkey. you know i don't see it being surprising i i i. did on dissipate that there will be an agreement because there are. commonalities that they share and i think both of them both of the statements that are mentioned by the heads of state mentioned about. the insurgency or the threat of terrorism but also they share. a certain relationship with the united states and overlapping of the integration ship with the united states which i think specially in the turkish case. pushed turkey to reach a. settlement with with russia and. the this

is part of i think the broader. look into the future between russia and turkey so i don't think it's surprising. how do things were viewed in the united states we should comment from a senior official saying it was you know encouraging the u.s. will see this is a positive move. i do i do think it's a positive mix because it's something that they don't have to worry about because if one looks at the kind of rhetoric that's coming out of the united states it's slightly. confusing sometimes or slightly. it's contradictory they they they say a big. you know they claim very big claims that if anything is going to happen there is going to be dire consequences or a couple of months ago you know will be met with. you know

a severe backlash and so on when it comes to any kind of. military action that russia has to take so i felt and i think many people felt that. the united states was hoping secretly. that they don't have to engage in anything this agreement means that there is. progress that could be made and most importantly the united states themselves they don't have to. worry about orchestrating some kind of deal it's already been surrendered it's already it's already been surrendered to to russia it's already russia is clearly the dominant player here and. turkey as well so. it's one less thing that the united states has to focus on. so that's why they will find it welcoming. critics have

said the u.s. approach to syria's been somewhat muddled it's not been helped by situations such as politicians. confusing the country with other countries we just have a listen to this is what played out on c.n.n. . she's parroting the asada and russian propaganda what you make of that obviously firmly disagree with or you can be against intervention but to meet with the butcher of baghdad is a whole nother story so when you got officials to come out of baghdad to get in the totally wrong country. is that or is that a problem basically not too clear on what is actually happening in the country itself. unfortunately not only is that a problem what's the bigger problem is that this is not uncommon this has happened before people have mistaken. you know unfortunately there

has been an approach in the middle east and speaking of baghdad in iraq where there was a lack of understanding of the actual situation happening on the ground there is there is a very large amount of arrogance. and irresponsibility that many players have and i think that kind of statement really exemplifies the situation it's it's unfortunately the situations that remind us that it's people on the ground that are the ones that are really being affected by the negligence of many people that have no idea. or any kind of bearing of the consequences of their decisions on other people so it's disheartening to see that. and unfortunately it hasn't i mean it has happened before and it's just not something that's just encouraging but we're very thankful that there has been some

kind of progress now made so let's let's hope this. this will be a symbol this agreement today was a symbol of. potential cooperation that could happen in the future. many thanks my guest is. middle east politics expert thank you. many things to always say it but it's always true appreciate you staying with us here with all of the international can take a break now but back at the top of the out of the latest news headlines. join me.