can deliberately created a dangerous situation israeli pilots use the russian plane as cover against the syrian air defense systems as a result the russian oil twenty was brought down by a syrian air defense missile there's no way the israeli pilots could not have seen the russian plane. while the russian defense minister who has held a phone conversation with his israeli counterpart in which he stated israel bears for sponsibility for the downed russian plane and the death of the crew members on board meanwhile the israeli military said early on tuesday it had no reaction saying it does not comment on foreign reports we get all the latest details now from our middle east correspondent for the paula what's the very latest you can tell us face. well here as well it's extremely frustrating we're receiving no reaction and no comment as you mentioned from the israeli foreign ministry the defense ministry or the israeli defense forces now we're just in the run up to the

most holy day in the jewish calendar your key put and in the next twenty four hours everything in this country will close down so if we don't get a reaction in the next two three hours it's unlikely we'll get any kind of reaction for at least the next day or so and so what this does suggest is that the israelis recognize that they are in a very precarious situation and they trying to work out behind closed doors what would be the adult adequate response talking to israelis many feel that the israeli prime minister benjamin netanyahu needs to go to moscow immediately now this is the worst scenario that could have happened israel as we all know has been carrying on strikes in syria for quite some time now and it always carries out these strikes in close cooperation and coordination with the russian army the fact now that there is some kind of fingers being pointed at israel's responsibility for the deaths of these fifteen russian servicemen suggests that something went very wrong as you suggest as you mentioned there was this phone call between the russian defense minister and his israeli counterpart i think the. lieberman and the point was made

that there was no way the israeli pilots could not have seen the russian plane as it came into land from an altitude of five kilometers also the warning given by the israel's by the israelis to the russians was less than a minute before that strike happened we've heard from the russian military saying that this is provocative actions of israel that it is that it is contrary to the spirit of friendship that exists between the two sides the russian defense ministry also saying that israel's actions are to quote irresponsible this is a dangerous situation and that pressure of reserves the right for some kind of adequate response following israel's hostile actions in syria now the incident happened around ten o'clock last night local time there were four israeli jets that were firing at syrian military positions we understand that one of the positions hit was a power station initial reports suggesting that some seven people were injured on the ground there was also a french frigate that was firing from the mediterranean sea at the time the plane

was some thirty five kilometers away from the syrian coast it was over the mediterranean sea went into went off radar and a search and rescue operation is still underway to locate the bodies of those killed and retrieve what what is left of those russian military plane. ok paula thank you for bringing us up to speed on all the latest artie's paula. while the downed russian plane was and i old twenty it's a patrol aircraft known by nato as the coot it has a top speed of six hundred seventy five from the. military objectives. and the intensification of these. three the aside. from the americans. to syria especially at the time when the

syrian army was preparing itself to liberate the which would have stripped the united states from the last hold on syrian territory to have a stake in this the future of syria after the crisis and why was israel striking syrian facilities in the first place why would they back. well because of course we cannot separate israeli moves from the americans they are allies and they are allies in the war on syria so that's why the americans wanted to. send warnings to the russians not to go ahead with their plans to support syria in gaining its sovereignty over its territory because the syrian crisis has a regional and international dimension mainly on the geopolitical side so that's why for the americans. they didn't want for the city and russians to resolve

the situation in syria and that's why when i was with every success by the syrian army we had strikes from the israeli side to the city and on the russian side that the crisis is not over yet and that the americans and the israelis would have to have a say in the future of syria of course we will see more and more raids but this move by the israeli side is a clear message to the russians that. the shedding blood of russian servicemen is not at red line and that the americans and israelis are willing to cross this line in order to. obstruct russian efforts from. helping syria regain full sovereignty over it that it already i won my state with

this incident russia has become the victim of israel's wral with syria which he would create without. i believe so. it could have been also the case. americans have directed strike. in syria because they would be willing to russian servicemen time ten pm on the seventeenth of september. the defense ministry of national treasure is saying that the israeli jet had behind a russian plane hence setting it on fire now why these forward accusations well we seen continuous attacks on syria by the israeli. government but actually what they're trying to do in the same time is be an ally of russia hence this reaction this time and their feet i think the last eight hours. ok well earlier i spoke to israeli journalist only ben menachem he believes the blame for the downing

of the plane should be attributed to syria's defenses of course that it was an accident it's not israel fault with to remember those who shot down the russian airplane of the syrians and no these were. i think we are facing a very serious crisis. in russia and think that the israeli defense forces are now studying and drawing the conclusions and investigating what the exactly happened but. if there will be a need these will of course will apologize about the way things look now. these early position is not of course the spokesman of the israeli government but the position is that the syrians are to be blamed. do a professional job and this was a mistake by the syrians and not these well but of course is the world will investigate what happened in the necessary conclusions it could be argued you know

if israel does say it was an accident it didn't intend for it. happen when it should have been there in the first place because it's bombing a sovereign state the problem of the military iranian presence in syria which is aimed to open in you from thinking this is the israeli position and the israeli already declared. allow in the iranian presence in syria this is a red line. and the israelis made it clear also to the russians that. it's not acceptable for here and i think that it's very clear that even though there is a crisis between the israel and russia now because of this unfortunate accident i don't think that israel will store change its policy concerning the iranian. presence the military presence in syria there is if you're just joining us this is

r.t. international this is our top story syrian forces have shot down a russian military plane killing all fifteen people on board but the russian military blames israel for using the plane as a cover while striking syrian government facilities here's how russia's defense ministry commented on the incident earlier today. on the seventeenth of september around ten pm when the boys ready find jets launched guided bombs on syrian military facilities in the city of latakia these ready jets were flying at a low altitude from the direction of the mediterranean sea these ready jets deliberately created a dangerous situation for the war ships and aircraft located in that area the bombing occurred in the immediate vicinity of the russian aisle twenty which was coming into land these ready pilots use the russian plane is against the syrian air defense systems as a result the russian oil twenty was brought down by a syrian air defense missile there's no way the israeli pilots could not have seen

the russian plane as it was landing from an altitude of five kilometers at the last they deliberately carried out this provocation israel had worn the russian military in syria over the upcoming operation the warning came less than a minute before the strike through the hotline that didn't leave a chance to guide the russian plane to safety a search and rescue operation in the crash area is currently under way we consider this is ready provocation as a hostile action as a result of israel's irresponsible actions fifteen russian servicemen have been killed we reserve the right to respond to this incident of lebanon based journalist mockingjay think the statements that will come from the israeli prime minister's office will be hugely significant on the situation unfolding in syria. i think that the issue of their one second warning it was was a pretty poor show and i think you know there's no way a turbo prop plane of that speed in the age can get out of the area that quickly

but the fact that we're getting reports that the israelis use this plane as some kind of target some kind of bait so that these syrian ground forces would fire. the russian aircraft perhaps by mistake and i think that is a very alarming and that is a real turning point in the syrian war with these huge. geopolitical issues at stake and i think for the first time ever geo political analysts and journalists myself have always been asking what will it take how far can this go before one day netanyahu steps over a line with this very fragile arrangement and just goes a bridge too far with his gun ho attitude in syria israel feels very vulnerable it doesn't seem to be doesn't feel as though it's being taken seriously by anybody east or west russia or or the or the iranians on the ground and i think these

strikes are a symptom of that insecurity is a certain desperation in what we've seen with this air strike on this on this military surveillance plane but definitely a game changer this is really a tipping point i mean this is really serious and i think the statements that will come in the next few hours from mr norton doesn't you know his office will be a massive game changer in syria just to quickly update you on what happened thirty five kilometers off the syrian coast last night that's where russian i-l. twenty was heading to they came in airbase when four israeli fighter jets were attacking but i've taqiyya region and put the russian plane and the line of fire of syrian air defenses israel only gave a warning about its operation less than a minute before it began giving the eye out. twenty little time to leave the area and reach a safe zone as a result a missile from a syrian s two hundred system targeting the israeli forces shot down the russian

plane a french frigate which had initially been accused of involvement in the incident was anchored close by in the mediterranean. well that these israeli missile strikes came just hours after the russian and turkish presidents agreed to create a buffer zone in syria is it live province in order to protect civilians there the goal is to separate syrian government forces from militants in the country's last major rebel stronghold of reports weeks on end. dominated headlines last stronghold of g. hardest. rebels in the syrian army was poor is determined to win them would have been messy would have drawn the entire world is following our meeting the statement that we're going to make after the talks may bring hope to the region the presence of russia and turkey spent almost five hours closer to the way working

out a deal that wouldn't plunge into bloody chaos a deal to avert a military operation a peace deal. we have decided it's created demilitarized zone along the path line by the fifteenth of october it will be between fifteen and twenty kilometers wide we will move radicalize militants out of the soon including japan's own newsroom. really together with russia we will make maximum effort to get rid of all radical groups from this territory turkey and russia will both patrol this territory to ensure compliance. the gist of it is getting radical islamists al-qaeda in syria for one away from the frontlines withdrawing heavy weapons artillery tanks to make sure thing is don't spark any more escalations opening up the roads allowing travel through contested territory is for civilians and russian turkish troops

would oversee it all patrol this demilitarized zone but there are concerns if you are new to the notion of abortions to the future the main concern is that the militants pose a threat to aleppo province the city of aleppo and to a military compounds in syria tartus and him a min. the problem is the hardest who are bent on spoiling any peace effort they have everything to lose if it falls it will mark the end of the syrian war their final defeat assad knows it wouldn't be easy or clean seems to be for this deal it looks like the military operation has been shelved for now probably draws the best military and diplomatic solution to the the decision is very important indeed the worth of was looking for a military confrontation really. but there is more there is more causality of

there is normally to roper's from there is not expected clashes between the government forces than the radical groups in the long probably does the militarized zone will be the way where the radical groups will leave the area not only the people about also. the turkish president wasn't exaggerating when he said the world's eyes were on this meeting stakes are so high here for the gulf states for the west especially they spent untold billions arming and financing the syrian rebels only to lose. we consider any assault to be a reckless escalation of the conflicts if assad russia and iran continue down the path they're on the consequences will be dire the world will hold them responsible . how much of that was genuine concern for civilians and how much is

bitterness over losing you decide for yourself it's occurring that we have the discussions that are ongoing discussions we are one and president putin. is far as you watch what's taking place on the ground as you start to see the potential of this and i think i think. the discussions that are having reduced down a path of a potential when you get something that's what's kinetic if they're actually engaged and a level of dialogue nevertheless the united states pentagon seem cheated by this latest deal a bloody battle has been averted and geodes to being marginalized perhaps most importantly is the precedent for compromise and that's happened. ok you're watching r c international we're bringing you breaking news at this hour to remind you the top story is syrian forces have shot down a russian military plane killing all fifteen people on board the russian military

blames israel for using the plane as cover while striking syrian government facilities the incident occurred thirty five kilometers off the syrian coast of the i old twenty was returning to a russia run military base in the latakia province here's our middle east correspondent paula flee with the details. are keeping mum about what kind of responsibility they take and what really happened last night when these fifteen russian servicemen were killed when the military plane was shot down this is just a few hours ahead of the jewish holy day of your key poor and the country will come to a complete standstill for twenty four hours so it's highly unlikely that we're going to get comment in the coming hours or indeed for the next day at least and there are suggestions that this is because the israelis are scratching their heads and trying to figure out an appropriate response in terms of what has happened this is the worst situation from the israeli and certainly from the russian point of view

there is constant coordination between the two armies but there's not necessarily a close relationship and this is dealing with israeli strikes that happen quite regularly over syria now the accusation from the russian side and this was relayed when the russian defense minister spoke with his israeli counterpart at the door lieberman is that the warning from the israelis came through the hotline less than a minute before the russian airplane was struck at the same time the russian plane was coming into landing from an altitude of five kilometers and so it is really impossible to believe that the israeli pilots could not have seen the plane we've heard from the russian military saying that this was provocative actions of israel that had. that it is contrary to the spirit of friendship that exists between the two sides the russian defense ministry also saying that israel's actions are to quote irresponsible this is a dangerous situation and that russia reserves the right for some kind of adequate

response following israel's hostile actions in syria now the incident happened around ten o'clock last night local time there were four israeli jets that were firing at syrian military positions we understand that one of the positions hit was a power station initial reports suggesting that some seven people were injured on the ground there was also a french frigate that was firing from the mediterranean sea at the time the plane was some thirty five kilometers away from the syrian coast it was over the mediterranean sea went into went off the radar and a search and rescue operation is still underway to locate the bodies of those killed and retrieve what is left of this russian military plane. and we can bring in our guest now live to mohammad marandi from the university of toronto mr marandi thank you for joining us on the program first of all what's your take on what happens over

a third like to express my condolences to the russian people the russian armed forces and the families of the.