local time there were four israeli jets that were firing at syrian military positions we understand that one of the positions hit was a power station initial reports suggesting that some seven people were injured on the ground there was also a french frigate that was firing from the mediterranean sea at the time the plane was some thirty five kilometers away from the syrian coast it was over the mediterranean sea went and went off radar and a search and rescue operation is still underway to locate the bodies of those killed and retrieve what is left of this russian military plane. and we can bring in our guest now live to mohammad marandi from the university of toronto mr marandi thank you for joining us on the program first of all what's your take on what happens. well first i'd like to express my condolences to the russian people of the russian armed forces and the families of the victims the russians have made many sacrifices to save syria alongside the

iranians the syrian people the lebanese. from extremist forces that were supported by the united states with al-qaeda or isis by turkey by israeli regime and by countries like saudi arabia i think it's obvious that the israeli regime put the russian servicemen at risk intentionally in order to be able to carry out this attack on syria which is of course illegal in itself. israeli regime has been supporting isis now on its border with israel with syria indeed in on the border which the occupied because they're occupying syrian territory in the golan heights until recently both isis and al qaeda were based there with israeli regime support so i think the the the the arrogance of netanyahu has caused him great difficulty now because he has to be answerable to the russian people and instead of

apologizing as usual the israelis are looking for scapegoats we haven't had any. official response from israel so far but let's just remind ourselves of what how israel has responded to previous strikes on syrian soil. israel holds the wrong end its syrian post responsible for today's aggression we will continue to do whatever is necessary to protect our sovereignty and our security do you think that netanyahu is going to blame iran again in this situation . well there is really regime being of an apartheid regime and premises and nature they. always blame the victim so when they attack because they massacre of civilians they blame the victim and when they

attack lebanon they blamed them when they attack syria when they support extremists in syria they blame the victim in this case though i think the regime has miscalculated enormously the iranians are in syria in coordination with the syrian government to fight those very same groups that the regime disraeli regime has been supporting and the iranians have never. carry out carried out any attack on the regime they work in coordination and under the supervision supervision of the syrian arab army the same is true with the russians indeed the iranians and the russians and the turks all agree for example in this live they came to the iranians as our foreign minister pointed out this morning that the iranians fully support the agreement between president putin and mr add on because the iranians want the extremists to be put under pressure with without bloodshed so now that the turkish government is going to be under pressure to deal with al-qaeda which unfortunately

they've been supporting in the past so the israelis by bombing northern syria they're actually bombing those areas that were that that have nothing to do with their so-called border and they've been i think trying to support al qaida and through these attacks that they've been carrying out over the past few days now the russian minister of defense has said what happened was the israeli jets had flown behind the russian plane in order to create friendly fire in order for the syrian air defenses to shoot down the russian plane now the aisle twenty which is the russian plane is let's launcher and and slower than israel's f. sixteen c. think it could have been used on path to as it's a sitting duck waiting to be used. well i think one of them russian military and the russian air force make such a statement obviously it must be true because they're the experts and they

definitely knew that this plane was flying in the area and actually what the israelis have been doing repeatedly by carrying out illegal air strikes on syria is that they've been putting civilian aircraft at risk what if in future in the past a missile had struck a civilian airliner over the mediterranean so the israeli regime has complete disregard for anyone but its own interests for any people whether they're only allies or the united states the israelis are not allies of russia they're not allies of china they're not even allies of europe they're out of their own interests and as we saw fifteen soldiers fifteen military service men who had a probably a very terrifying death they were the sacrificial lamb for israeli aggression over syria and as i said i believe that those attacks were basically carried out in order to help and give a moral boost to al qaida in it. and as

a previous guest told me the israeli military is very advanced the f. force a very experienced so does that mean that if israel should give a response that it was an accident this would be quite unbelievable. no it's utterly unacceptable and no one is going to believe it the there were four planes it was obviously the attack was planned very well before hand israeli regime knew exactly what sort of ships and planes were in the area they were monitoring it i'm sure by the second these pilots knew exactly what their route was they knew exactly where the russian plane was it was obviously in order to protect themselves . and attempt to protect themselves and to put the russians at risk it's clear as day but again i'm sure that in the western media tries to make this some sort of

accident but it is utterly impossible for anyone to believe that that's the case they intentionally put russian air force personnel at risk why were israeli army forces striking syrian facilities in the first place. well the israeli regime carries out regular attacks on syria with impunity in order to. intimidate the country they've been in the past whenever the syrian government to keep the country weak in the past whenever the syrian government would make advances towards nostra front al-qaeda and near the golan heights which the israelis occupy illegally this release would attack syrian arab army positions they would kill syrian soldiers to protect al-qaeda whenever they would make advances on isis positions which were on the corner between israeli

troops jordan and syria again there's where the regime would attack syrian government positions so this was basically to keep syria weak the objective of the regime in tel aviv is to keep all of its neighbors weaken and fable in order so that it can dominate its surrounding territory so just as they've been supporting the extremist groups in syria to keep syria weak these airstrikes that they've been carrying out have the same intention but the problem is is that people like netanyahu who are foolish and arrogant sort of like trump and like mohammed ben found among these three people have are strikingly similar in many respects he's his arrogance got the better of him and now i think he has to pay a price because he has shocked the people of russia and he has killed soldiers who have been a part of the. russian armed forces that have been crucial to preventing syria

from falling into the hands of extremists and those who are flying the black flag how significant would you say the role of a wrong is in israel's round with syria. iran is a scapegoat just like all the other scapegoats that the israeli regime uses the iranians they enter syria well after tens of thousands of foreign fighters were brought into the country by western intelligence agencies and regimes like saudi arabia and unfortunately turkey and of course israeli regime itself the iranians there they came in in large numbers in two thousand and fifteen whereas from two thousand and eleven we saw foreign forces enter the country it was only when the iranians felt that the capital may fall that they entered the country in significant numbers and then soon after that the russians entered as well hezbollah entered in two thousand

and thirteen so all of these troops that which entered the country with the consent and at the request of the syrian government they went there to prevent the capital from falling into the hands of extremists whether al qaida or whether it was isis this israeli regime knows that they were supporting these groups so as the iranians were trying to support the syrian people israeli regime was trying to weaken the syrian people by supporting the extremists so the iranian presence there was was basically as a result of the arrival of extremists with the help of foreign forces they helped the syrian government push back these extremists and the israeli regime in order to keep syria weak they use it as a run as a scapegoat to justify their attacks on syria which is of course illegal and that's exactly what israel do does another sit in fences they attack civilian targets in gaza then they claim they murder people carrying out them and stray sions in gaza and then they blame the palestinians it's their behavior is extraordinary and it's

basically because of the supremacy is ideology that is being pursued in tel aviv as we saw from the recent law that was passed that basically made a farsighted official in that country. fest then one of the rank eight from the investor have to run. thank you so much for joining us on r.t. and sharing your thoughts. well just to quickly update you on what happened thirty five kilometers off the syrian coast last night where russian i-l. twenty was heading to the commitment base for israeli fighter jets were attacking the latakia region at the time and put the russian plate in the line of fire of syrian air defenses israel only gave a warning about his operation less than a minute before it began giving the eye all twenty little time to leave the area as a result a missile from a syrian s two hundred system targeting the israeli forces shot down the russian plane a french frigate it's which had initially been accused of involvement in the incident

with and could close by in the mediterranean. ok we can go live now to another guest i have a door asking here's a russian israeli conservative journalist and political activist mr ask him thank you for joining us on the program first of all i'd love to get your take on the instant how do you see it was it an accident or a deliberate provocation. well we are talking about tragic accident i believe that syrian. me styles who were firing the russian plane by mistake and they say something woodring between syria and the russian unfortunate accident and then no it happens during the war in every place where you do you know sometimes you can find the many events when certain army fires. their comrades forces that set or in any case this is nothing to do with the israel this is an accidental with involvement of syria and russia however you know i of

course i have deep condolences for the russian people but i think i can convey to relate to you and some of the russian media i mean you are competing very successfully with the western media on what is fake us from the early morning hours and i'm following you you and your colleagues spread lies that their plane was hit by israeli missile and you proved it by that so-called anti-rape anti even missile system people of system of syria was supposed to pose to heat all in the air. with a certain plays of any music not playing at plays a fraction of it was that that the system works and sites way that only israel put heat in and this is a lie you know after all this propaganda russian defense minister is somehow not playing it down but in any case what good he does for russia to spoil the relations it would ease or it why do want to is throw dirt at one of very few countries which

is still friendly to you know my old prime minister came to the right square on the ninth of may and was with you to show appreciation for what this whole in separate for russian people why do you spit it out in sight it's peed on why do this guys like your guest before like everything was a lot of. and you know it's you know it is a lie i know that yeah. you know that your live from early morning you said that is there a huge display and you know that you surrender cooperating very close to the you know what by now if an accident happens listen as i told you there could be an accidental israeli just a fire that is really in play that cetera not a syrians flattered that you so so what mr ask me what i thought also in surat off but time when we are not telling lies we're reporting on what we've heard from the russian minister of defense we are yet to hear from the israeli side we are yet

to have an official statement from that now russia but i have had the russian military taken it very seriously this is being called a provocation this is being called whole stop behavior on the part of israel now silence from israel so you saw nothing in the israeli media quoting according to our correspondent is that do you think this thought guns from is who are all be seen as a side of how important they for me how important my whole thank you mr to ation is . not saying i hope that you don't believe in what you are saying i hope that you know that you have to tell it for certain reasons but i hope you all you realize it's not true you know the royal it has nothing to do with this event again but that wasn't what i said i don't think they threw out so far why didn't we haven't heard from them in early morning ross media and i speak cross them since early morning rush the media spread this information that the plane was seen by israeli

plane ticket again i can i can still in the least like their lies spread from very early morning up until now and now the russian defense minister playing it down and again the russian defense ministry in this very expensive industry cooperate that you know a great way. to get every adult off a story at this point we've reporting on well you russia raised a. as i said we're waiting to hear from israel are we talking to people all over the wealth and russia is a friend to israel they all friends russia has been a meeting about a number of his disputes do you not think the best filing phone base could be seen as some kind of betrayal one bit fairly serious you do it i'll betrayal it's typical anti-semitic slur or what you're doing you're just you're the stewards instead of talking about facts syria and syria and fire your play and accident trade to do but the row has nothing to do with that period as far as is their own goals we defend our borders that would defend our security is the right

do not a war they're not one thousand kilometers from our border you understand it's not one thousand kilometers from me is the row with life there and we ask every day and you are generally i think and how can you be so sure about what happened when you know what israel is in syria illegally what do you. need your premise i mean what i mean there is because i hold a few repeats i can tell you now illegally how can you be so sure about what how good you are me haven't heard from the israeli military yes. well you're talking to me now i'm mr right a citizen and i'm accusing your flies from early morning this what i'm saying we didn't know if we just wasn't going to lead to what their history is the l. is called breaking weather us a very successful and you know i want to go more because i want to think crossfire ross is doing great job up in syria ross exterminated more terrorists in three years then is the real beef you whomp years of existence or did there much better

job when we didn't get to we have to learn from you how to pull up to speed and prosperity in gaza and but listen listen things happen accidents happen to everybody understands about what your comic with typical typical anti-semitic slurs and all kinds of protocols of zion i mean come on people understand that it's all fake it's so fake from a very early morning some people in bras are trying to spoil the races with rice and these are so you want israel to join the another camp you're doing a great job in spoiling the atmosphere but why you know exactly that accidents can happen you know exactly that use their oh could not have i mean even the wildest dream of getting involved with breast implants you know the trust in place and there it is rated character it's and if we hadn't scared of them if being allison three high from the russian minister of defense on that take on what happened we haven't heard anything from israel at this point not even an apology not even

condoning says don't you think this is going to damage when nations between the two sides because they keeping silence you ought television stations is busy every day spoiling the races between russia and israel you know what you're doing you know you go all the questions this is provocative question is the really striking is the really spoken and old diplomatic channels with the ransoms and this is the way how to handle it i mean we our allies it with iraq say in syria in a way i'm going to talk in the quiet way i am look using not rights and events. ministry not russian president i'm accusing the russian media which is competing and becoming worse than western media in congress events you are creating full full snoozed i mean more than you said you'll recall reported that there were protests in gaza against the removal of american embassy to jerusalem and you knew that was a life you knew that people in gaza wanted to break through israeli border and said

nothing about embassies you present false news and you drank around to a great broad i'm turning your condolences yes accidents happen unfortunately when you go to fight somewhere there are unfortunately right now israel was not in goal if israel one would have been involved in something yes we'll have to come and say sorry when we're not turks you are but whatever you're doing now you're trying right now i mean it's very important conference just one last question for you and i have one last question with a sort of doing a fact of the on the back of all i'd like you are they were put on the gaza strip and we have we have journalists independent journalists on the ground and we give eyewitness accounts of your. i'd like to ask you for no one objective report only lies all newlines like i was here today are you saying go now

you see the situation with them that are paying the price if you as i do not share in the coming hours about it would you like to comment on how you see the situation developing you keep lying lying ok thank you for your time the victor ask and it's so it's a pleasure to have you on the program you were rushing out or anything similar to that and i think to get the thinking as you've been has a ranking like a little sister people definitely still thank writings great job in syria thank you . ok moving on the kremlin has commented on the tragic incident and here's what the president's spokesperson had to say with regard to the downed plane i can only say that the kremlin is extremely concerned over the situation russia's ministry of defense is already given its assessment of the incident person person extends his deep condolences to the family and loved ones as well as fellow servicemen of the parish crew what steps as the kremlin expect on the part of israel because so far

they haven't commented on the incident and could this cetacean impact trashing the israeli relations. at this point i will not draw any conclusions the situation is being analyzed as you know the first facts have been made known by the ministry of defense the action is deemed as provocative have been an ambiguous lee assessed there's no need to add anything at this point the rest will come later. do you think this latest incident could even knocked down the agreements that truck was in the president on the demolition three parts of syria you know this incident will not have any impact on the agreement that's for sure it's a breakthrough extremely important agreement in terms of syria's future. they director of the no sauce think tank on a well told israel would prefer to call the downing of the plane an accident. i think the israelis would be very embarrassed the russian leader you know hosts

these really premier. you know very close quarters during world war two commemorations he gives them. a lot of ear and they listen to their worries and so on and so forth the israelis are really calculating at the moment what the response could be one could argue that they read israelis did not intend to down this plane but it is a natural behavior of. an attack an aircraft to evade. defense systems and they might have said ok well this is a russian airplane they're not going to shoot it so we think this is going to take a long time we don't think that there is going to be any immediate response by the syrian. army bar an operation or a some shelling of the golan heights but we think now with the downing. of the russian aircraft that the response is going to come from russia this time around

from the syrian army well here's how the russian defense ministry commented on the incident earlier today. on the seventeenth of september around ten pm is ready we're going to jets launched going to syrian military facilities in the city of latakia these are ready jets are flying at a low altitude from the direction of the mediterranean sea these ready jets deliberately created a dangerous situation for the war ships and aircraft located in that area the bombing occurred in the immediate vicinity of the russian aisle twenty which was coming in to land these ready pilots use the russian plane is against the syrian air defense systems as a result the russian oil twenty was brought down by a syrian air defense missile there's no way the israeli pilots could not have seen the russian plane as it was landing from an altitude of five kilometers at the last they deliberately carried out this provocation israel hadn't worn the bra. military in syria over the upcoming operation the warning came less than

a minute before the strike through the hotline that didn't leave a chance to going to russian plane to safety the search and rescue operation in the crèche area is currently under way we consider this israeli provocation as a hostile action as a result of israel's irresponsible actions fifteen russian servicemen have been killed we reserve the right to respond to this incident the israeli military said it has no reaction to the incident as it does not comment on foreign reports meanwhile the russia's ministry of foreign affairs has summoned israel's ambassador to what happened off the coast of syria earlier the defense the russian defense minister said moscow reserves the right to retaliate to what it is views as hostile israeli actions well earlier we spoke to jamal what came he is a professor of history and international relations at the lebanese university and his opinion israel is fully responsible for the tragedy. we're relieved that this move by the israelis was premeditated it was planned in order to send

a message to the russian side that it will be blogged that the russian service men will be killed in case the russians support a military action mainly in it live and this was also coordinated with the americans i believe it comes as part of the it's collation. by the american side and its threat to bomb syria in case the syrian army moves to liberate it live from terrorist groups there so. i understand this incident as part of this escalation and i believe that it came at a crucial moment when president putin was able to strike a deal with. the president over at live in order to stop the military operation

there and to try to to defuse the situation so that's why i believe the israeli side is fully responsible for provoking the incident and drawing. friendly fire from the city in part two down the the russian plane with fifteen servicemen on board thank you for choosing r.t. international we're going to be back in just a few minutes with all the latest on our breaking news and everything else happening about stay with. us like the chunks of the companies that are. like that on this mall or other just so they get you to give you diarrhea and you care for them so the second family they get to have done their one initially given that they care for them. and the family care for the downside of that announcement that it carol. they have the ability to keep you locked into

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