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tv   Going Underground  RT  September 19, 2018 9:30pm-9:50pm EDT

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if you were looking for a match up of gogglebox regarding this question time in kabul karaoke also driving the various nick robinson in my own kind of drama i'm afraid you've come to the wrong place however if you want to reforming round up this week's top headlines join me in action going on all the civil coming up today but first while the mainstream media appears to ignore russian claims of ukrainian serial numbers in the case of the downing of flight m.h. seventeen another plane crash is read in the headlines this one resulting in the deaths of fifteen russian servicemen. just isn't. what it was like this when they did it is a recipe for you in the by you look at. it i'm so looking at this. now the grown up now. well joining me now to discuss what this could mean for the future of syria is editor in chief of the pan arab digital rights. thanks for going back on not only the future of syria future the world some might say that what is
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putin going to do now fifteen fifteen russian soldiers have been killed but i believe. the situation to be honest because there is there committed a very provocative acts and they choose the worst timing for this. meeting a deal which he signed with his counterparts. to hold only again and it was actually a very very important diplomatic breakthrough to. humanitarian catastrophe in so why. why celebrating why the turks still breathing. you know there is really something for war plays to you know the syrian position they said you know all military facilities are going to send rockets to hizbullah and lebanon we don't know yet but to choose here where that. question military airbase i think this is this is
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a really really really provocative russian and this time while the russian are trying to reach a cease fire and because israeli government denies all responsibility blames the regime just remind us because some people might not even realize that how israel is involved in bombing of syria this is not me the greed of the u.n. security council or oh under any u.n. mandate why is israel bombing syria see them is a sovereign state that isn't really bomb syria chong one hundred and seven times for the last eighteen months why they are doing that they are saying we are bombing. their facilities but they are not allowed there is no international resilience being there at the invitation of the syrian go anywhere invited by the syrian government like that i shed were invited by the syrian government in order
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to fight radical rebels the terrorist organization in syria so why things are really our bombing them nobody give the you know the authority or the international legality to do what they are doing so now actually there are. problems for the russian the russians said clearly there is there really aren't foreign responsible for this kind of attacks they use the russian surveillance plane as a cover in order to actually get to the region where that is they're in a war plane where bombing where are tacky so in order to be shot down so russian were very angry the question is how that actually is going to tell you how you think there will first i think they will put the destruction on this israeli three hand syria in a way or another second they could supply the syrian our lives with very sophisticated me signs like it's four hundred or three hundred business will make the syrian. able to shut down and it is that i.e.
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war planes in the future so we don't know yet why does the russian army and the russian air force themselves get involved it will be up to us maybe you know i think we should really be here because the israeli authorities as well are. trying to say it is considered a terror terrorist movement by dres m a but it has m.p.'s in the lebanese parliament. his will are the only way that russia could get some justice for the killing of these fifteen people to cuba white house talking about his will his will and living on syrian targets and they will shut down our nation surveillance plane i believe has been helping the fight against. it if it really were helping but the problem is that we are talking about this incident in particular i think that action to tell you i think that action actually should true down in the future any israeli war planes which is going or are going to attack see why haven't they previously they haven't because definitely be a teacher be with their israelis you know. i mean that and you know there's really
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prime minister claim he's a friend of he went there the way he went to school about three times from the beginning of the year he every time coordinate with that action in syria but this time that action said clearly we were not to fight or warned by the israeli about this raid just one minute before i think the question should be very tough very very so next time if you read syria will shoot you down while we await. any kind of muscular response as they call it for more sco let's go rewind back to monday and the search here to remember you know the weather. agreed was they would draw from a libertarian who is this group because even the b.b.c. panorama program so the tourism a was supporting a multi-million pound project or from people under the control of the british government denied that all the funding has been reduced in ohio at the hague is a brigade this is affiliated group of al qaida going to say they were
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affiliated to al and i still you know bill giuliani was actually a member of al qaeda or a leader of al qaeda and iraq war one of the leaders and i consider no terrorism so he was approved and indorsed by also i agree that the leader of al qaeda after osama bin laden and he said this is our branch in syria and those people. you know characterized as a terrorist organization by united states by britain by russia by syria and by everybody so now the problem is how the turks are going to this are. card actually going to organization and the sort of for example how they strip them of all that that that the military equipment it is very difficult to tell now but you know. turkey has until tenth of october to do this shop i have my doubts here i don't think that our will actually put down their weapons i don't think they will send their heavy equipment to turkey to be stripped down completely of these
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weapons in this case you know they will be easily liquidated in the end that action wouldn't accept them because they pose a threat to russia and islamic republics in. dagestan and others so there there is an agreement those people should be actually finished the. u.n. envoy said they have about ten thousand to fifteen thousand fighters they should be liquidated see that always about as i said you have to the british government does consider them terrorists even the foreign office is a sort of the beginning obviously that's where we really get to because even though they accepted the british government that was exerting more influence over the areas that the british taxpayer was funding a police force seem to be working with them the british government denies that so why is britain supporting these is the most was the dutch government just said they're going to withdraw funding for the white helmets accusing the white home of the poor oversight of dutch taxpayers' money being funneled through into britain is
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doing that israel obviously is reacting to this whole established. white helmet british government and the fine is that so the problem is now you know those groups to be to be honest they have a very suspicious all especially talking about the chemical would. prince suddenly in eastern in syria they were actually providing all the so-called evidence that the russian or the syrian military were calling this chemical weapons and proved to be honestly completely unfounded glories of the russians a false flag attack is being referred to as we speak we spoke to have the white house or denied those sort of allegations but given what you're saying what way on earth would benjamin netanyahu or terrorism in basically support those whose aspirations are shared by terrorists who are responsible for the london bridge attacks here the westminster attacks why would your resume support anything like
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this you know the basic incompetence if you go back a bit you know about seven years ago the british government actually we're putting pressure on the. european union to actually lift the embargo on financing and arming syrian rebels and they send a lot of weapons to those the rebels i would you want to do they want because they want to topple assad that e.g. and they want to do everything in order to topple the assad regime at any cost even if they committed illegal acts so that's what happened and they actually they were coordinating with saudi with the americans with the qataris in order to actually topple the assad regime they feed to do so this is the problem now they are saying these groups are terrorist groups stop why you were not able to tell from the beginning if you ask me it's seven years ago i will tell you you know. that you know affiliated organization of al qaeda it was very clear so why did you support that even even or the islamic state it was you know it was supported by the west
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directly or indirectly a lot of millions were. channel two top state ok will. there be retaliatory measures for the diplomatic spoke sions of to this group are incident is there a broad sense of the retaliation if as you say it involves the s four hundred system which apparently there's an agreement to sell russian as well hundreds of turkey the nato allies. and to saudi arabia u.s. and british what do you think we could expect in britain as a reaction to russia selling us one hundred missiles to syria i think it would be a device to blue to the british to them he could do that eighty themselves if that syrian air force or differences actually got these kind of misandry very sophisticated signs i think there is a really wouldn't dare to attack anyone expecting the response remorse good to be some sort of support for the entire arab world the. probing questions look so non-existent really but then is what we've come to expect from the b.b.c.
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it was fairly bog standard yeah well the interesting well the t.v. channels and all of the b.b.c. are appalling deserve a major let's go to this really rather we have mail so russia is watching a bit later this information war using from an unfunded channel r.t. one's culture secretary jeremy right in the wake of not interviewed this is the usual kind of soft power propaganda we're saying there's an interesting there's a massive report out last year that if you saw from the department for culture media and sport jointly with the foreign office which says that they need to step up their soft power war against russia and the century what they consider to be russian propaganda and they're going to do it by all means necessary to try and counter this but they've been using these arguments against our say for ages i mean how many times you've been warned it's going to take him off the air and it is because from i mean personally from my perspective i never told what to say when i come in here on the open to give my views and you will see i was a channel that reports on issues which repressed and often cover which is a really important country that the work is done on disability rights especially it's been excellent and this is an accuracy in the existing that ten or form
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alleged breach is one of them i think refers to this program we've been cleared completely one last because brainiac you say in the daily mail that's impossible actually but what about the leader of the opposition let's go to this wells wheat from the editor of the jewish chronicle yes they are stained editor of the jewish chronicle stephen paul are treated been hesitating to tweet this because i keep thinking. campin shortly is controversy but the more i think about it the more it seems it really is this is you know what i'm talking about don't you and yes i do it's a polling place with bankers referring to a tweet bunny germy call but it was a video. for the tenth anniversary of the financial crisis and he was essentially putting the blame on the sea banking institute so they decided to start a new book so this one for the jewish chronicle believes that all bankers a jew sort of so he does this is this is this must be true or they were talking about the international consortium of clowns maybe as opposed to jewish friends maybe as opposed to jewish people running the banks but where do you think that leaves the rubble. obviously i think it was intentional by and i can't see any
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other reason because he would he's a newspaper editor he's obviously highly educated and highly trained in what he does he would not put that of out there not nine since a german called when is is using old anti semitic troops because he's criticizing bankers on the ten year anniversary of lehman brothers exactly it's part of this ongoing attempt to smear gold in the sun something is essentially not when on the other hand you have the conservative party as we talk about and minutes openly flouting their right wing credentials well it is to night at the dinner resumes and dinner with viktor orban allege that the ceiling let's go to this really new statesman. indeed the tory support hungary is part of a decade of the launches in europe it's very interesting new states in that it's sights that the tory on the page is against the european union trying to discipline hungry for. victorian codes is a liberal democracy. got
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a bit deeper on this and i say that this is been on dancing since around two thousand and nine when the conservative m.e.p. broken forms with a european conservative and reformists caucus which is made up of for dominant a far right groups now of course on the one hand you have. been as some sort of rabid anti semites and then you have a conservative. basically siding with the nancy semites viktor orban so of course a guy and this is nothing new the sort of centrist right in this country are often quite happy for the far right on the rise because it is unusual mechanism will crash well if specially after you know seven years of keeping interest rates at zero the point is we should have we should have been aggressively hiking in two thousand say fourteen fifteen remember the federal reserve promised us in two thousand and fourteen fifteen sixteen fifteen rate hikes and they only hiked twice into the once it does two thousand and fifteen one to two thousand and sixteen so by holding rates so low so long they've created
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a much bigger problem and you're right that it's very tough to get out of now let's go then to the big geo political economic stage jump as promised trying to protect the u.s. economy from china do you favor the tariffs well i'm going to i'll be in the white house tomorrow we advise we have the bear trap support we advise clients globally on trade and political risk and i think the white house is looking at the midterms the elections here in the fall they're trying to score some points trump promised trade protectionism in two thousand and sixteen in the elections but he's really playing with dangerous a dangerous. toxic recipe here because the chinese economy is for the banking system in china the banking system is forty four trillion in size that's three times the u.s. it's a very leveraged economy so every two hundred billion in tariffs that you put on in the extremely leverage economy creates
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a very very dangerous dynamic for the global economy you don't think there's a danger there of judging in new liberal capitalist markets the same statistics as in a quasi come on economy like the people's republic well people been saying you know for years that there's twelve men in the room in beijing and they're the maddest man on earth and they have been getting away with this for years they probably will put forth another stimulus package and we think that's now coming in the next quarter so they've been throwing a hundred billion two hundred billion three hundred billion stimulus prep packages at a two to three trillion dollar problem so they've been able to to really get away with it per a while now yeah but you're looking at correlations of g.d.p. thinking of it as a normal country like in western europe i mean some people refer to the index you should be looking at in the christie production rail disbursements or even satellite danger of lights at night you're looking at the wrong statistic when you
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judge that debt to g.d.p. ratio that you're basing that on well you still you still a twelve trillion dollars economy it with a major impact on the global economy so if you're talking about two hundred to five hundred billion in tariffs china has already devalued their currency ten percent this year so they're clearly worried about something and that is having major impact on other emerging market countries that trade with china so it's a currency war that's come out of a trade war ironic that the that when trump announced more terror of the yuan against drop again dropped good for the chinese economy for exports well that is exact. this is one of their defense mechanism so every time that trump is thrown another measure they will continue to develop but remember when you're when you have a country is biggest china when you devalued imagine if you're a millionaire in china or a billionaire and your currency is the valued by ten percent you're going to want
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to get your currency out of the country they've lost keep in mind china has lost eight trillion dollars of currency reserves since since two thousand and fourteen a one trillion because of the weakening currency so there's a limit to what they can do the demonstrations going from being relatively peaceful political protests to be increasingly violent revolution is always spontaneous or is it you know lloyd i mean you know liz put me in the new bill is that i'm new to the former ukrainian president recalls the events of twenty four. those who took. it invested over five billion dollars to assist in these enough to ensure a secure and prosperous and democratic. led.
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i don't. think. you know. russia israel and the syria look out for the guilty party after the tragic downing of a russian military plane over the mediterranean. recent moves of thousands of refugees are from an overcrowded camp after an outcry from human rights groups over rampant crime and poor sanitation. as we traveled to the iraqi city of mosul more than a year after it was liberated many people rebuilding their lives amid the ruins but always no with. no.

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