expressed the veto or kinds of decisions like that as there is an article seven procedure going on against poland as well and they made it very clear that we are going to veto all kinds of sanctions against poland and the prime minister czech republic made it very clear that he's standing besides our prime minister so definitely such a political intention will be unsuccessful in the union to take away voting rights of but you know this report contained a sixty nine points sixty nine accuse a sions against hungary out of each for teen has already been the result between the government and the european commission nineteen are on their discussion by the government and the european commission as it has to happen in the european union and there are ferdie seven qualified lives no more than a lie based on opinion of n.g.o.s which are clearly anti-government which took part in the last election campaigns had open goal had to publicize the goal to fro out

the government but they became unsuccessful they are frustrated and they are spreading lies about my country and this report is based on these lies this is a lie or report ok so let's think logically what can brussels achieve by isolating but it passed and if you find yourself isolated do you do you think you can really invoke their article five and maybe a movie all together no definitely a lot leave the european union because our interest is to have a strong european union under it can be strong in a strong european union and this is the this is the focal point of the debate how to make european union strong again and there's a big clash between the some western european and to slip through the strait were pushing for a european union which should be stepping into the dimension of post christianity. and post nations and our goal is totally different we want a strong european union. it's been strong member states and we want

a europe which sticks to its christian heritage so we're number one we don't want europe to get rid of the christian heritage and we want member states to stay as member states we don't want our you know give up our nationality we don't want to give up our culture we don't want to give up our heritage and so on and so forth so this is a big clash between those who want to see european union as post christian as post national and us who want to see europe as a christian continent based on strong member states european commission is also undertaking legal action against hungary for its law targets those who help asylum seekers do you think this goes to all the way to the european court of justice could quickly actually hungary given scrap the law look the thing is the following we are a country we are a state and the state does have an obligation to protect its citizens by protecting its own national border and if there is an organization which helps other people

while eight the border of that even a country that is again the interest of the national interest of security so it must have a consequence so yes real punish those organizations in the future as well who try to encourage people to while later our own border we try to promote the opportunity of border while lation towards hungary or try to encourage people to ask for asylum without a legal basis so it's obvious that there are organizations act against your national security then you have to protect yourself so us just sebastian course has always been in favor of most of your policies you quoting migration this time he says you know what a strong m.p.'s will actually vote against hungary do you feel betrayed. well you know. although politics is not a personal profession but i have to tell you that personally we enjoy or we have enjoyed a good friendship as we have always fought together in the council of the european

foreign ministers for dissolution of a true found preferrable so that was absolutely a negative surprise what he made as a statement i called him because we are friends so you just spoke i mean i thought why even if it's on the phone he gave me an explanation. i was not very happy because regardless of any kind of pressure putting on me i would never say such kind of things about friends but we are different personalities and i guess there's no friendship in politics do you think he was pressured into saying i'm taking a decision like that well i think this is a question that should be raised to him so he you in your interview to b.b.c. said that policy and migration can be seen as invitation for people to come to european union and that sparked quite a debate because i mean obviously people who come migrants who come to europe they come from war torn countries countries with family and stability and you know

they're dreaming of all these like european social packages it's only normal that those people are seeking a better life. you know. i think we have to start from the basis of international law and international law says that everybody has to riot to have a safe and secure life so it means that if you have to escape from your home then in the first safe country you must be treated it means that we should help those countries which are located around the war torn areas to have them to be able to treat refugees instead of encouraging them to come to europe because my question is what is the legal basis for anyone to cross five six seven unsafe countries why allayed the border of those just in order to get to germany so there is no fundamental human rights saying. that you wake up in

the morning you pick germany austria sweden as the destination of yours and in order to get there you while late series of borders that are not a human right so human right is that if you have to escape you're going to be treated in the first safe and secure country and that's why you're absolutely in favor of supporting turkey jordan lebanon and all other countries may see for you to say what if you were awake in the same position as. italy were like you can't change geography and the first arrivals have to be taken and they just can't ship those people or send them back so. we're talking differently he's afraid if they know my gratian because yeah it's so hard to get but come on there are four hundred thousand illegal migrants marching for my country. and how we ended up was that we built a fence look we spent no i mean very few people in those but what we have spent to spend more than one billion one billion euros so far on protecting our southern border because currently there are dozens dozens of attempts to break into hungary

on the victory base is still our police is there are military is there are infrastructure is there and we have spent one billion euros in order to stop that. the other question is whether if it is possible in the land which we have proved whether it is possible in the maritime route as well we have listened to brussels for three years us nords impossible physically legally it's impossible the australians have proved that yes it is possible but now the italian ministry of interior. respect a lot tried to prove that yes it is possible to stop the migratory flow on the mary as well but those investors in europe all they say that protection of external borders are extremely important attacked him like they have attacked us in the last free free and a half years so if we make it very clear on behalf of europe that please do not board on those ships of the smugglers the northern shores of africa because you've

really been not allowed to disembark ships in europe then these people if we leave these people leave because they see that regardless of any kind of attempts of certain politicians in europe. brussels and the majority of the western europeans all these reach that these people these sumburgh those boats and come to europe and then ask for a future and regardless of the fact that they are. they are rejected they come the be some back under state so i actually spoke literally two weeks ago with me on the same topic and asking like how can you be allies with hunger because at the end of the day what you want are two different things because hunger is says. to stay active. and engaged equals betrayal. when so many find themselves worlds apart we choose to look for common ground.

i we're back with hank aaron for mr blair sack the prime minister there's this really popular idea floating in the here upon capital is that in order to stop migration for instance from africa we need to pour money into africa to make life of those who are there better would you be ready to pour some money into africa so people don't come to europe because whether you like it or not if you're saying that you want to be part of the european union you're part of you know one whole entity and that entity says well maybe we should consider giving some of our money to those countries so that those people don't come to us where this is what we call tackling the root causes and yes there are absolutely on board just recently the foreign minister of uganda with him i made an agreement that hungary pays around

fourteen to fifteen million euros. to be able to operate today a refugee comes over solar and there just is for solar and there for water treatment with some security measures and he told me the foreign minister of uganda and he said it publicly in the press conference as well that they don't ask people and they don't want to oss people to come to europe because he understands that if people in africa come from one country to another it's the same culture same same heritage same religion so it's not as he expresses not a shock for each other because they are basically the same. same culture and same heritage and same religion if they come to europe. this is not the same situation that's what he said so and i agree with him that we have to help them in order to keep their people keep their labor force to have them to be able to develop their economy. that's why i made an agreement with the german minister of development

that they find the investments together in africa in order to make life of people better there but there's one very important principle which we always want to apply when it comes to funding of african countries for example and this is condition the levy so we have to stick these funds to conditionality meaning that we have to require we have to demand that these countries which are finance must carry out those reforms be it legal be comic be political democracy which you know kind of bridge to leave those reasons why people have been leaving from those countries so right now the way things are looking is that divide and to have there's a bloc hungary italy austria. yes against the rest of the you and you guys are defined them on the migration policies do you feel the block is strong enough to resist well i share what i can tell you is the following the cooperation

of these the tightest and the most effective alliance within the european union and look for governments belonging to four total different party families and regardless of this fact we are the strongest allies of each other and we know we can show back to back because we are in store there to read each other we protect each other and their voice or the four of us it is said unanimously it's much louder compared to before war separately so from an effectiveness point of view from an interest for into a view from there at the point of view from a principle point of view this cooperation is strong enough this cooperation was try to be killed many times many many lives so we we have a saying in hungary on that if people speak about you dying then you have a long life so in this regard i can tell you the cooperation we live for eternity that you know more than ever before at the unity of the european union and. you

know threatened not just for the migration issues for many other issues and then many would argue that this block the shagrat hungary italy austria is actually putting the rest of the further in in this gap that's like getting bigger and bigger and bigger. you feel like you could be blamed for that. i think raising here if that's that can be reversed i think that's a very very. unfair accusation against us not to speak about the this is very untidy mcready because as you have said rightly it's not only by duration but that not only migration but a lot of other issues which can be taken into consideration as the story challenges ahead of the european union bracks it's fred of terror in ukraine the cooperation between eurasian economy union the european union transatlantic relationship so there are many many challenges ahead of the european union historic ones and i

think that it's obvious that we have a debate. how to overcome these challenges and it is very anti-democratic approach . it's a continuous complex job president we understand that there are several meetings between your president on the german chancellor so i don't think that there would be too exceptional in this regard we have a very clear schedules we have one awful meeting between your president and the prime minister every year which is actually normal going trees close to each other we depend on your. supply we have a tight economy cooperation that we have a tight investment cooperation as well you play an important role in our energy supply not only guess but nuclear power as well so i find it very normal. try to make a pragmatic relationship based on mutual respect the only difference is that when your prime minister meets president putin he doesn't go back to hungary and the minute he has his face turned to russia to russia doesn't say to his voters

russia's number one enemy most of the european had they come to russia you know they talk about bridging gaps but as soon as their home their rhetoric changes you know we always say the same statement about the same things maybe this is one of the reason why every one the free elections in there over the constitutional majority may never change faces so obviously your country has always said that russian sanction like sanctions and sanctions doesn't work for anyone they don't work for you or they don't for the russia but when it comes to voting. a lifting that you don't vote to lift that why this is your right to vote why why wouldn't you you know we made it very clear as well because as i told you we always we are always honest we are we are in favor of straightforward speech we hate each other we have even told openly here in russia that we will never break the unity of the european union because unity is a value on the other hand we've made it very clear that there must be

a dialogue there must be a discussion an honest discussion a straightforward discussion about further sanctions have been successful or not and then let's see things factually but there are european economies but there it helped russian economy over the reid help to go down with the russian economy whether it has helped to implement the music agreements and so on and so forth so there are very straightforward questions and there are very easy answers yes or no and then after giving honest answers to honest questions we should make a decision about the future now the current italian government. seems to represent the same position that nor automatic rollover and the discussion must be made as these they are a strong country a big country a g seven country if you would be much easier for the smaller member states to represent this position together with a big thank you very much for this interview and good luck with everything we appreciate thank you so much it was.

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