term of american politics republicans have really found themselves in a situation where they simply can't win but they also can't afford to lose and what i mean by that is they are either going to accept testimony ignore the testimony and confirm kavanaugh or they're going to have to vote down kavanaugh either one is a losing situation politically for republicans but they also can't afford to lose and what i mean by that larry is there is not time to confirm a justice before the november elections if kavanagh goes down or kavanagh withdraws and in the event the democrats win the senate in november now you're in a scenario where republicans really with a straight face can't move forward with any confirmation mitch mcconnell knows that i think the republican senate is going to ultimately try to push through the cabin on nomination but i think they're going to do so at their own peril and politically they will take a lot of hits for doing so how about the old says that it was really his me bill doer and with the staff still doing power while still do you think grassley has

given middle want. well i think it's very important that republicans have no other choice you have to hear from miss ford and you have to accommodate whatever environment is most appropriate to hear her testimony i think is the right move by grassley and by republicans i believe what we will hear come from democrats going forward though is that the background check by the f.b.i. is incomplete and so they will demand that the f.b.i. now complete its background check of cabin all based on this additional information democrats will use that as a way to continue to stall the confirmation vote if you will you know the immediate reaction to that though has been one of skepticism from a lot of americans suggesting miss ford has the offer to testify perhaps he should go ahead with the monday meeting we will find out on monday. beyond painting tell them oh as the victim trump has been pretty restrained in engine small instances that. he has you know there's been some story lines that he has been counseled by

his daughter ivanka that apparently she has suggested it might be time to back off supporting kavanaugh from the white house i think mr trump also knows that if this goes worse it gets worse from here he perhaps does not want to have his fingerprints on the cabin on nomination at the end of the day larry and this is just one republican's opinion my recommendation is kavanagh should actually withdraw his should come to the decision himself to withdraw when speaker boehner was speaker of the house and he was facing a challenge to his authority he could have won the vote but he alternately decided to resign and that day that he resigned he said i did not want to put the institution through this turmoil brett kavanaugh should recognize that even if he is confirmed he will have put the supreme court the highest court in the land through turmoil that will be remembered for decades to come the higher honor here for bread kavanagh i believe is to withdraw. unlikely though. it is unlikely

unless it just becomes politically impossible to continue to back him and to your point on the president should the press even even this week the president has suggested that if miss four testifies and her testimony is credible that perhaps kavanaugh may need to be his nomination may need to be considered if this goes much worse for republicans i think you could see a withdrawal but right now i think republicans have suggested they're going to fight this one out what is. declassifying documents connected to the rush to probe . i think it is a dangerous precedent for a president because understand he has only declassifying certain documents that are expected to support his side of the investigation are his side of his defense if you will there is an active investigation that whether or not it ultimately impugns the present united states he is the subject and his campaign is the subject of this

investigation for the chief executive of the present united states to declassify information related to an investigation into him and his campaign and to do so selectively is wrong it sets a dangerous precedent but i think it also reflects this president's very cavalier attitude towards law and justice in the united states but he says it's total transparency. well except he's not first of all to release any evidence in the midst of an investigation is highly inappropriate but even if you begin to declassify and release information to only do so selectively that would be like a defendant in a court room releasing only the exculpatory information and not actually releasing the evidence that the prosecutors have the president's wrong to do this but one thing we have seen and his posture on this this week is this is a president who fundamentally believes that the investigation is corrupt and he is

intent on exposing corruption and he believes if he can do so then we he will have served the nation in a very specific and special way however is not taking into account the criticisms and the skeptics who believe that the investigation should simply continue without this evidence being released david all the time we've talked to nancy is so much. you are really in the minority in your party aren't you why why don't you switch parties. stay tuned larry stay stay tuned. look i'll be very honest with you. i have thought it is the higher duty to stay and fight to try to reclaim the party i believe in in the united states there simply is not a third alternative and a third a third party i don't find a political home and the other major party the democratic party but at the end of the day my wife and i are expecting our first child and that causes you to reflect on the associations that you think are most important for you and your family in

the example you set so i'd say larry stay tuned on that one ok david i definitely will got it thanks for your time today david good to be with you larry thank you turning now to our political panel for more discussion on calvin or and other matters there hose there is the moon you know the former deputy national press secretary of the democratic party and c.e.o. of the now own strategies consulting firm he joins us from las vegas and in new york amy holmes now the co-host of the p.b.s. show in principle former staffer to senate majority leader bill frist and amy i'll start with you as a woman does this concern you the kavanaugh. crisis. as a woman as an american as an observer this whole process concerns me and

i just have a lot more questions than we have answers it's very fast moving we understand that . professor the professor that she does not necessarily want to talk to the senators she has said that she would prefer an f.b.i. investigation happen first chuck grassley the senate judiciary committee chairman has said he wants to offer options to talk to senators behind closed doors a hearing behind closed doors or in public and now possibly even to have judiciary staffers flights or her in california in order to get her story. you know as i say i that the whole thing is very bewildering to me frankly or do you feel. look it's very concerning larry it says this is a person that will be appointed to to the highest court of the land in for this sort of all the great things to come forward it's concerning i think. congress ought to to the american people this administration ought to tell the american

people to hear this allegation to take the time needed to potentially confirm or not confirm. the judge this is this is important and and i got to say we have to remember that no woman will want to put themselves through this process and for some people to to doubt this this this this woman to say that this is this is a pull this is for political reasons or political gain is just absurd but we had to remember anita hill when she went through a similar process with clarence thomas clarence and that of being confirmed to the court so my point is this she needs to be heard we need to give her the time and congress needs to i don't know i says very very closely it's my believe that the f.b.i. from. very early on to her lying anita hill was also came late and there was have been i investigated and thomas was called back to appear before the committee again well here's part of the problem is it seems to me that

she's ambivalent professor ford has been ambivalent about coming forward she wanted to remain anonymous. the magen politicking continuing this question with. the actual press secretary of the democratic party c.e.o. of the now and strategies consulting firm he's in las vegas in a new york is amy holmes coersion the p.b.s. show in principle a former staffer to senate majority leader bill frist. well here's good dissolve on the topics of amy this week president drone border crisis of occasional all documents connected to the russian probe. well he ordered that the texts between lisa page and peter struck be put in the public domain those are not classified documents and you know they were texts on government you know handheld devices and computers so hopefully they didn't have any classified documents on

them because if they did then those two people involved they would be in a lot of trouble and then he ordered twenty one pages of the files application one particular press afaik application in june twenty seventh he'd to be redacted the president has the ultimate authority as a constitutional authority to declassify anything he wants presidents do it all the time president obama spoke very openly about the osama bin laden raid and even vice president joe biden he said in an event he even named who was on the raise a navy seal team six which had actually been withheld from the public so i don't really buy a lot of the criticism that president trump is somehow being. reckless or you know overstepping his authority the constitution invest in the president the ultimate authority to declassify whatever he wants but david jolley said he hasn't declassified all of it he's calling it total transparency and tungsten jolley said it's not total transparency but i would be for more declassification more

information not less jose what do you make of it. i think the president very clearly is cherry picking certain documents that could be an approach to the other projects is he simply trying to destruct american people trying to clean his name we already know we already know that the russians were involved in the twenty sixteen elections and robert mueller day by day gets closer to the white house gets closer to the president and the president ought to know what to do so he's is trying to from a strategic perspective trying to destruct the american public by cherry picking information that's what i believe and it was less than a week ago the former campaign manager paul nana ford made him plead the dream and there's robert muller are you concerned. i'm not concerned i want the truth to come out i i hope that he is truthful with the special counsel but here's kind of the interesting thing in terms of legally that it's taken away whatever leverage that anybody might have thought

a pardon could apply because basically if he's cooperate with robert with mr mueller then a pardon doesn't really matter if you pardon him for his tax evasion or what are these other charges he's already he's already talking. jose do you think this is going to break anything big. it could i mean it's hard to tell there is so much things going on as to pertains to this investigations and i agree with amy i mean what we want us republicans democrats that we want to get to the bottom of this i want this whole investigation to to be over but it takes time so i i think robert mueller is doing an outstanding job i think he should continue to do it as a fast as we can. i think a lot of folks a lot of you know a lot of folks in washington were hoping that this investigation was going to finish before the november election that's clearly not going to happen so time will tell but i can tell you it's it's a lot going on and i don't think it's looking very good for the president. but

larry i do want to add that these redactions might not look very good for the f.b.i. or the d.o.j. and certainly civil liberties libertarians myself included included are concerned that the secret fice a court was misused to surveil an american citizen in a court that is supposed to be about national security we'll find out from those redactions if that indeed was the case or if it was pretty flimsy. the president has tweeted that china is openly trying to mbak been changing our elected by attacking our farmers ranchers and industrial workers because of their loyalty to me that's trump talking about himself what's your take. well there was an ad that china put out over the summer showing the regions of the country that would be negatively impacted if china you know impose tariffs that seem to be

political if that's the case it would be a violation of world trade organization rules but i think with this whole tariff issue the new york times had a really interesting piece the headline was that china used to be tough on trade but is basically losing a lot of its leverage china just announced this week that they're going to impose tariffs on sixty billion dollars worth of u.s. goods and basically that maxes out they won't have any more goods to put tariffs on ironically because of how close their importation system is will donald trump's tactics work will this you know compel the chinese government and chinese economy to play fair or not put their thumbs on the scales with government subsidies and industry loans from government banks stealing of intellectual property rights i'm nuts are not so sure about that the chinese have a much longer time horizon when they're thinking about these things and jack ma the c.e.o. of alibaba is about to step down he said from the chinese perspective this could go

on for twenty years but basically what are we going to do nothing's worked out worked when it comes to china up to this point so you know let's try let's try tariffs. i don't think it's a good strategy because i mean what happens from a trade perspective that you know we import we impose tariffs on them they impose tariffs on us i mean it's a trading war i don't think it's going to identity day it's not going to help us as much as the president. leads to believe with with this whole make america great again i think you should focus more on the u.s. economy and the problems that we have here at home i think it's a total waste of time on this a lot more things and more priorities of the president should be focusing on a couple of other thing is jose's story day those are said to release or full disclosure as a title of the book full disclosure amy shaking her head. and why do religious leaders the right continue to support him. you know that's an interesting question and one that i actually posed to ralph reed you probably you know remember. of

course and you know a very famous evangelical political leader and i asked him that very question and he said look we wanted a fighter not a saint and remember evangelicals supported ronald reagan and he was a divorced man so he said basically they support president trump's policies they certainly like his supreme court justice choices putting them on the bench and the third you know kind of playing a long game and aren't so concerned with donald trump's personal sins no little hypocritical. well actually a lot of evangelical everybody that i've heard they way they would tell well they would they would tell you that we are all born in sin and you you know find salvation through jesus christ and there's forgiveness and redemption i don't know that donald trump is personally seeking it but i don't think evangelicals hold people necessarily hold political leaders to some sainthood status any jose thank you for joining me on this edition of politicking thank you larry thank you where

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