tv Sophie Co RT September 21, 2018 9:30am-9:58am EDT
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to impose a bigger three photos on the member states to you know distribute the migrants among you member states and that's a that's a clash between the pro migration majority of the european parliament and the hunger in government we're going to get to the migration part obviously because it's a huge topic inviting europe literally but i think. they also mend their domestic policy when they're threatening sanctions against hungary's that they don't like or they think and democratic do you think congress voting rights in the could be suspended and if yes then what can we do in return no surely not it cannot be taken away because it requires a unanimous decision and poland already expressed the veto all kinds of decisions like that as there is an article seven percent are going on against poland as well and they made it very clear that we've interviewed all kinds of sanctions against poland and the prime minister czech republic made it very clear that he's standing besides our prime minister so definitely such
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a political intention will be unsuccessful in the union to take away voting rights of hungary but you know this report contained a sixty nine points sixty nine accuse ations against hungary out of each fourteen has already been the result between the government and the european commission nineteen are on their discussion by the government and the european commission as it has to happen in the european union and there are ferdie seven qualified lives no more than a lie based on opinion of n.g.o.s which are clearly anti-government which took part in the last election campaigns had open goal had to publicize the goal to fro out the government but they became unsuccessful they are frustrated and they are spreading lies about my country and this report is based on these lies this is a lie or report ok so let's think logically what can brussels achieve fire.
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isolating but it passed and if you find yourself isolated do you do you think you can really invoke their article five and maybe a movie all together no definitely a lot leave the european union because our interest is to have a strong european union under it can be strong in a strong european union and this is the this is the focal point of the debate how to make european union strong again and there's a big clash between the some western european and to slip through the strait who are pushing for a european union which should be stepping into a dimension of post christianity. and post nations and our goal is totally different we want a strong european union based on strong member states and we want a europe which sticks to its christian heritage so we're number one we don't want europe to get rid of the christian heritage and we want member states to stay as member states we don't want our you know give up our nationality we don't want to
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give up our culture of we don't want to give up our heritage and so on and so forth so this is a big clash between those who want to see european union as post christian as post national and us who want to see europe as a christian continent based on strong member states european commission is also undertaking legal action against hungary for its law targets those who help asylum seekers do you think this goes to all the way to the european court of justice could quickly actually hungary given scrap the law. look the thing is the following we are a country we are a state and the state does have an obligation to protect its citizens by protecting its own national border and if there is an organization which helps other people while late the border of that even a country that is again the interest of the national interest of security so it must have a consequence so yes real punish those organizations in the future as well who try to encourage people to while later our own border we try to promote the opportunity
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of border while lation towards hungary or try to encourage people to us for asylum without a legal basis so it's obvious that there are organizations act against your national security then you have to protect yourself so us to sebastian course has always been in favor of most of your policies. quoting migration this time he says you know what a strong m.p.'s who actually vote against hungary feel betrayed well you know. although politics is not a personal profession but i have to tell you that personally we enjoy or we have enjoyed a good friendship as we have always fought together in the council of the european foreign ministers for dissolution of the true found preferrable so that was absolutely negative surprise what he made as a statement i called him because we are friends so you just talk i mean i do i even
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if it's on the phone he gave me an explanation. i was not very happy because regardless of any kind of pressure putting on me i would never say such kind of things about friends but we are different personalities and i guess there's no friendship in politics do you think he was pressured into saying i'm taking a decision like that well i think this is a question that should be raised to him so he you in your interview to b.b.c. said that policy on migration can be seen as invitation for people to come to european union and that sparked quite a debate because i mean obviously people who come migrants who come to europe they come from war torn countries countries with family and stability and you know they're dreaming of all these like european social packages it's only normal that those people are seeking a better life. you know. i think we have to start from the basis of international law and international law says that everybody has to
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riot to have a safe and secure life so it means that if you have to escape from your home then in the first safe country you must be treated it means that we should help those countries which are located the round of war torn areas to have them to be able to treat refugees instead of encouraging them to come to europe because my question is what is the legal basis for anyone to cross five six seven peaceful and safe countries why allayed the border of those just in order to get to germany so there is no fundamental human rights saying. that you wake up in the morning you pick germany austria sweden as the destination of yours and in order to get there you while late series of borders but that's not a human right so human right is that if you have to escape you're going to be treated in the first safe and secure country and that's why you're absolutely in favor of supporting turkey jordan lebanon and all other countries may see for you
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to say what if you were awake in the same position as. italy were like you can't change geography and the first arrivals have to be taken and they just can't ship those people or send them back so. we're talking differently he's afraid if they know mcgregor because yeah it's so hard to get but come on there are four hundred thousand illegal migrants marching for my country in two thousand and fifteen and how we ended up was that we built the fence look we spent no i mean very few people in those that what we have spent have to spend more than one billion one billion euros so far on protecting our southern border because currently there are dozens dozens of attempts to break into hungary on the vehicle or police is there our military is there our infrastructure is there and we have spent one billion euros in order to stop that to root out the other question is whether if it is possible in the lens with which we have proved whether it is possible in the maritime route
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as well we have listened to brussels for three years us nords impossible physically legally it's impossible the australians have proved that yes it is possible but now the italian minister of interior. respect a lot tried to prove that yes it is possible to stop the migratory flow on the merry time as well but those investors in europe who all they say that protection of external borders are extremely important attacked him like they have attacked us in the last free free and a half years so if we make it very clear on behalf of europe that please do not board on those ships of the smugglers at the northern shores of africa because you will be not allowed to disembark ships in europe then these people if we leave these people leave because they see that regardless of any kind of attempts of certain politicians in europe. brussels and the majority of the western europeans all these reach that these people the sumburgh those boats and come to europe for
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refuge and regardless of the fact that they are. they are rejected they cannot be some back under state so i actually spoke literally two weeks ago with the need on the same topic and asking like how can you be allies with hungary because at the end of the day what you want are two different things because hungary says no migration at all and you're just saying we want european union to help us redistribute the new arrivals because we can change our you know geography are you as an ally willing to help. we are allies with the finest things i know yet be ok to distribute yeah i'd like to tell you two friends on that number one we are allies because sequencing is very important and number one in the sequencing is to protect and control the borders and do not let my you know this is number one this is about my new ones as well because he he tried to close the maritime border and he tried to make it make the people understand that there's no way they can do some
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barred those ships because they are illegal migrants and they're not allowed to come to italy so the number one issue which says that no illegal migration should be allowed no illegal migrants should be allowed to come to europe that is the major issue on which we agree and very our allies this is number one number two when it comes to funds when it comes to helping those in need you know we have a program which called hungary helps we have already spent around fifteen million euros on that as we are reconstructing the the torn down halls is in the middle east of christian communities we have them to build their schools we help them to cover a day or medical expenditures in their hospitals we have done to recreate their own communities because the church leaders of the middle east begged us not to encourage the people to leave the middle east to come to europe but to help them to be able to stay very dave communities have been staying for centuries or even
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a middle in him you know so our philosophy is that we have to bring health variance is needed instead of importing problems where there are no problems we're going to take a break right now when we're back we'll continue talking to him gary and foreign minister talking about they let me. stay with us. please. please. if the list on. my side is that is it with money and.
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long i went back with hank aaron for mr bean there siac the foreign minister now this is really a popular idea floating in the here upon capital is that in order to stop migration for instance from africa we need to pour money into africa to make life of those who are there a better would you be ready to pour some money into africa so people don't come to europe because whether you like it or not if you're saying that you want to be a part of european union you're part of you know one whole entity and that and to
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the says well maybe we should consider giving some of our money to those countries so that those people don't come to us where this is what we call tackling the root causes and yes there are absolutely on board just recently of the foreign minister of uganda with him i made an agreement that hungary pays around fourteen to fifteen million euros. to be able to operate today a refugee comes over solar energy technologies for solar on the technologies for water treatment with some security measures and he told me that for even. and he said it publicly on the press conference as well that they don't ask people and they don't want people to come to europe because he understands that if people in africa come from one country to another it's the same culture same same heritage same religion so it's not as he expresses not a shock for each other because they are basically the same. same culture and same
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heritage and same religion if they come to europe then this is not the same situation that's what he said so and i agree with him that that we have to help them in order to keep their people keep their labor force to have them to be able to develop their economy that's why i made an agreement with the german minister of development that they find the investments together in africa in order to make life of people better there but there's one very important principle which we always want to apply when it comes to funding of african countries for example and this is condition the levy so we have to stick these funds to conditionality meaning that we have to require we have to demand that these countries which are finance must carry out those reforms be legal be comic be political democracy which you know kind of those reasons why people have been leaving from those countries so
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right now the way things are looking is that divide and to have there's a bloc hungary italy austria. yes against the rest of the you and you that hard to find them on the migration policy fill the block is strong enough to resist well i share what i can tell you is the following the cooperation is the tightest and the most effective alliance within the european union and for governments belonging to four total different party families and regardless of distract us to live each other and we know we can show back to back because we are in store there to reach. we protect each other and the voice of the four of us if you do said unanimously it's much louder compared to before war separately so from an effectiveness point of view from an interest for interview from there at the point of view from a principle point of view this cooperation is strong enough this cooperation was try to be killed many times many many times so we we have
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a saying in hungary and that is people speak about you dying then you have a long life so in this regard i can tell you that the cooperation we live for eternity that you know like more than ever before at the unity of the european union is you know threatened not just for the migration issues for many other issues and then many would argue that this bloc they should go out hungary italy austria is actually putting the rest of and further and in this gap that's like getting bigger and bigger and bigger. gee you feel like you could be blamed for that. i think raising here if that's that can be reversed i think that's that's a very very. unfair accusation against us not to speak about the fact that this is very untidy mcready because as you have said rightly it's not only by duration but that not only migration but
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a lot of other issues which can be taken into consideration as the story challenges ahead of the european union brax it fred of terror devor in ukraine the cooperation between eurasian economy union the european union transatlantic relationship so there are many many challenges ahead of the european union historic ones and i think that it's obvious that we have a debate. how to overcome these challenges and it is very anti-democratic approach to try to eliminate the right to. debate or to discuss the possible solutions and when should we have debates about the future of european union if not know their history challenges ahead of us and i think that we have the same rights in the central part of europe to discuss these matters as as the countries in western europe to have many say that these european parliamentary elections in re are going to be nothing like the ones before and they may change
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europe forever to agree while i agree that this is going to be an extremely important election we really do hope that the composition of the european union and the european commission real change this european commission made a terrible performance if you look at the track record migration freddo if there are brics it's transatlantic relationship so it's very harmful what they have done to the european union so it's time to step down and we hope that the composition of european parliament through a change as well and a parliament will be created based on the will of the people. by migration forces will create the majority. you know since then and surely he's president trump's advisors. and he's a great fan of your government and the ideologies the east take with and he's actually working on this thing called the movement which is that you're a skeptic alliance and trying to hoping to have an impact in the mail actions with hunger is support such a project. well you know since there are
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a european people and european citizens to vote on the e.u. elections i think we should leave it to the europeans number one number two we are part of the biggest european party family european peoples party and the strongest and the most successful party of the european peoples party so we hope that our party family will be successful and the hope that we can change the general attitude of the people's party which is now well migration by migration attitudes and so present and your prime minister obviously get along very well present and meyerson store brand greatly do you think this could actually be a real help in some way for hungary or is it just an ideological liking while you know under the democrat administration under president obama we suffered a lot because the american that time administration the made open attempts to interfere into our domestic. internal politics now such kind of attempts are not happening anymore for us it's great in many cases we receive things in
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a similar way but we have to understand that they are the number one superpower of the world and we are a small sensor european country so we know our place we are aware of our size and by measuring what we we we find some ideas of president trump very fresh and so when he says america first a chile we like and we understand because we say hungary first yeah but does that friendship actually help you with the standoff with brussels or just the opposite as mr trump isn't the most popular politician in europe these days either you know you know i don't think he needs any popular at the neuro because he needs to be popular among the u.s. voters so i don't think he. is too much interested in being popular in the in the you know we respect the decision of the american people we never question that we leave it to the american people to elect their own president as we expect others to leave it to hungary and people to make decision about the future of hungary. your foreign minister is also great friends with him or putin they get along very well but that must come with
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a cost for you for your country. here in st petersburg as the guests or of the international economy forum we understand they are in. it's a continuous complex job as them we understand that there are several meetings between your president and the german chancellor so i don't think that there would be too exceptional in this regard we have a very clear schedules we have one awful meeting between your president and the prime minister every year which is actually normal going trees close to each other we depend on your. supply we have a tight economy cooperation nabil have a tight investment cooperation as well you play an important role in our energy supply not only guys but nuclear power as well so i find it very normal. try to make a pragmatic relationship based on mutual respect where the only difference is that when your prime minister meets president putin he doesn't go back to hungary and the minute he has his face turned to russia to russia doesn't say to his voters russia's number one enemy most of the european had they come to russia you know
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they talk about bridging gaps but as soon as their home their rhetoric changes you know we always say the same statement about the same things maybe this is one of the reason why every one the free elections in there over the constitutional majority will never change faces so obviously your country has always said that russian sanction like sanctions and sanctions doesn't work for anyone they don't work for you or they don't for the russia but when it comes to voting. a lifting that you don't vote to lift that why this is your right to vote why why wouldn't you you know we made it very clear as well because as i told you we always we are always honest we are we are in favor of straightforward speech we hate each other we have even told openly here in the russia that we will never break the unity of the european union because you need. on the other hand we made it very clear that
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there must be a dialogue there must be a discussion an honest discussion a straightforward discussion about further sanctions have been successful or not and then let's see things factually but the european economies but the retell the russian economy or the read help to go down with the russian economy whether it's hard to implement the music agreements and so on and so forth so there are very straightforward questions and there are very easy answers yes or no and then after giving honest answers to honest questions we should make a decision about the future now the current italian government. seems to represent the same position nor automatic rollover and the discussion must be made as these they are a strong country a big country a g seven country it would be much easier for the smaller e.u. member states to represent this position together with a big thank you very much for this century and good luck with everything. thank you so much.
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