would you. put the police to close most of. the back. it's course still it's a take away boating right of funky but you know this report contained the sixty nine points sixty nine accuse a sions against hungary out of each for teen has already been the resolved between the government and the european commission nineteen are on their discussion by the government and the european commission as it has to happen in the european union and there are ferdie seven qualified lights no more than

a lie based on opinion of n.g.o.s which are clearly anti-government which took part in the last election campaigns had open goal had to publicize the goal to fro out the government but they became unsuccessful they are frustrated and they are spreading lies about my country and this report is based on these lies this is a lie or report ok so let's think logically what can brussels achieve by isolating but a path and if you find yourself isolated do you do you think you can really invoke their article five and maybe a movie all together no definitely a lot leave the european union because our interest is to have a strong european union under a can be strong in a strong european union and this is the this is the focal point of the debate how to make european union strong again and there's a big clash between the some western european and that this lets through the strait why are pushing for a european uni. we should be stepping into

a dimension of post christianity. and post nations and our goal is totally different we want a strong european union based on strong member states and we want a europe which sticks to its christian heritage so number one we don't want europe to get rid of the christian heritage and we want the member states to stay as member states we don't want you know give up our nationality we don't want to give up our culture of we don't want to give up our heritage and so on and so forth so this is a big clash between those who want to see european union as post christian as post national and us who want to see europe as a christian continent based on strong member states european commission's undertaking legal action against hungary for its law targets those who help asylum seekers do you think this goes to all the way to the european court of justice could could actually hunger again then scrap the law look the thing is the following we are a country we are

a state and the state does have an obligation to protect its citizens by protecting its own national border and if there is an organization which helps other people while late the border of that even a country that is again the interest of the national interest of security so it must have a consequence so yes real punish those organizations in the future as well who try to encourage people to while later our own border we try to promote the opportunity of border while lation towards hungary or to try to encourage people to ask for asylum without a legal basis so it's obvious that there are organizations act against your national security then you have to protect yourself so us just sebastian course has always been in favor of most of your policies backing you clothing migration this time he says you know what a strain m.p.'s will actually vote against hungary do you feel betrayed. well you

know. although politics is not a personal profession but i have to tell you that personally we enjoy or we have enjoyed a good friendship as we have always fought together in the council of the european foreign ministers for dissolution of each who found preferrable so that was absolutely and i got the surprise what he made as a statement i called him because we are friends so you just spoke i mean i thought why even if it's on the phone he gave me an explanation. i was not very happy because regardless of any kind of pressure putting on me i would never say such kind of things about friends but we are different personalities and i guess there's no friendship in politics do you think he was pressured into saying i'm taking a decision like that well i think this is a question that should be raised to him so he you in your interview to b.b.c. said that policy on migration can be seen as invitation for people to come to

european union and that sparked quite a debate because i mean obviously people who come migrants who come to europe they come from war torn countries countries with family and stability and you know they're dreaming of all these like european social packages it's only normal that those people are seeking a better life. you know. i think we have to start from the basis of international law and international law says that everybody has. to have a safe and secure life so it means that if you have to escape from your home then in the first safe country you must be treated it means that we should help those countries which are located the round of war torn areas to have them to be able to treat refugees instead of encouraging them to come to europe because my question is what is the legal basis for anyone to cross five six seven through unsafe legal migration should be allowed no illegal migrants should be allowed to

come to europe that is the major issue on which we agree and very our allies this is number one number two when it comes to funds when it comes to helping those in need you know we have a program which called hungary helps we have already spent around fifteen million euros on that as we are reconstructing the the torn down houses in the middle east of christian communities we have them to build their schools we have them to cover day or medical expenditures in their hospitals we have done to recreate their own. communities because the church leaders of the middle east begged us not to encourage the people to leave the middle east to come to europe but to help them to be able to stay very day or communities have been staying for centuries or even the millenium you know so our philosophy is that we have to bring help a very is needed instead of importing problems where there are no problems we have

to take a break right now when we're back we'll continue talking to him gary and foreign minister talking about the many issues. ministries police forces and city administrations of many countries depend on one corporation. and proprietary software you don't know. isn't that such a security risk when you have a black box operating the public eye to microsoft dependency puts governments under cyber threat not only.

does it. have to stick these funds to conditionality meaning that we have to require we have to demand that these countries which are financed must carry out those reforms legal economy be political democracy. which you know all kind of those reasons why people have been leaving from those countries so right now the way things are looking is that europe is divided into help so that there's a bloc hungary italy austria where then he's actually working on this thing called the movement which is a curious skeptic alliance and trying to hoping to have an impact in the elections what hungary supports such a project. well you know since there are european people and european citizens to vote on the e.u. elections i think we should leave it to the europeans number one number two we are part of the biggest european party family european peoples party and we are the strongest and the most successful party of the european peoples party so we hope

that our party family will be successful and we hope that we can change the general attitude of the you look at people already which is now so migration you can end by migration if it's so present trials and you're a prime minister obviously get along very well present trends and meyerson store brand greatly do you think this simplicity could actually be a real help in some way for hungary or is it just ideological liking well you know under the democrat administration on their president obama has suffered a lot because the american death time administration made open attempts to interfere into our domestic. internal politics no such kind of attempts are not happening anymore for us it's as great in many cases we see things in a similar way but we have to understand that they are the number one superpower of the world and we are a small sensor european country so we know our place we are aware of our size and by management but we we we find some ideas of president from thirty freshening so

when he says america first of chile we like and we understand because we say hungary first yeah but does that friendship actually help you with a stand of with brussels or just empathy because mr trump isn't the most popular politician in europe these days either you know you know i don't think he needs any popular it in europe because he needs to be popular among the u.s. voters so i don't think he he's too much interested in being popular in the in the you know we respect the decision of the american people we never question that we leave it to the american people to elect their own president as we expect others to leave it to the hungary and people to make decision about the future of hungary your foreign minister is also great friends with letting their couldn't they get along very well. but that must come with a cost for you for your country. here in st petersburg as the guest or of the international economy forum we understand they are in. a state continuous complex job as them we understand that there are several meetings between your president

and the german chancellor so i don't think that there would be too exceptional in this regard we have a very clear schedules we have one awful meeting between your president and the prime minister every year which is i feel normal going trees close to each other we depend on your. supply we have a tight economy cooperation nabil have a tight investment cooperation as well you play an important role in our energy supply not only guys but nuclear power as well so i find it very normal. try to make a pragmatic relationship based on mutual respect where the only difference is that when your prime minister meets president putin he doesn't go back to hungary and the minute he has his face turned to russia to russia doesn't say to his voters russia's number one enemy most of the european had they come to russia you know they talk about bridging gaps but as soon as their home their rhetoric changes you know we always say the same statement about the same things maybe this is one of

the reason why every one the free elections in there over the constitutional majority will never change faces so obviously your country has always said that russian sanction like sanctions and sanctions doesn't work for anyone they don't work for you or they don't for the russia but when it comes to voting. a lifting them you don't vote to lift that why this is your right to vote why why wouldn't you you know we made it very clear as well because as i told you we always we are always honest we are we are in favor of straightforward speech we hate cheating each other we have even told openly here in the russia that that we will never break the unity of the european union because unity. on the other hand we made it very clear that there must be a dialogue there must be a discussion an honest discussion a straightforward discussion about whether sanctions have been successful or not and then let's see things factually but the european economies but the retell the

russian economy or of the read help to go down with the russian economy whether it has how to implement the music agreements and so on and so forth so there are very straightforward questions and there are very easy answers yes or no and then after giving honest answers to honest questions we should make a decision of whether future now the current italian.