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tv   Going Underground  RT  September 22, 2018 4:30am-4:57am EDT

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how many of their members bullied if they were for example involving themselves in one day full grown professional practices intrusions in personal personal privacy of people and they were reporting upon so we raise those issues and it all does all come down to a lack of democratic control of our media but the concentration of power isn't only share a critique there is a lack of diversity of british media by u.k. shadow chancellor john mcdonald but what's happened since allegedly working with those who support try didn't nuclear weapons in scotland here he is attacking the channel he appeared on one very clear thing that you could do is stop appearing on russia today which is we describe but what if you wrote ministers as a kremlin propaganda vehicle i think that's right now and that's what i'll be doing of appeared on the past sometimes to challenge some of the issues internationally and also to raise issues here that we're concerned about in terms of well not just russia's role but also the international scene overall and i think that's right because i think from what we're seeing from russian today at times goes beyond
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objective journalism so why the change and why did they go on to say on the state mandated b.b.c. whose own political editor was criticised for bias against corbin by the b.b.c. regulator that m.p.'s shouldn't appear on this program r.t. is the biggest television news channel on the internet with billions of hits and you can tell us whether you think organs chancellor is wrong or right or why he should be supporting to raise amaze position on media multiplicity via social media that strays i'm a who like corbin's political enemies supported the war on syria it's only a few months since the prime minister herself visited r.a.f. akrotiri in cyprus from where tornado jets flew their sorties one thing is for sure media has been largely monolithic arguably in britain about to raise a maze a port for rebels trying to overthrow the government of syria and social media is certainly having little of what president putin and prime minister netanyahu had to say about last week's killing of fifty. in russian servicemen after an israeli
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warplane attack on syria so let's go to what used to be syria's largest city aleppo joining me via skype for his perspective is aleppo's independent member of the syrian parliament be fires thanks for coming back on before we get to monday's a deal what did you think of president putin's diplomatic response to the israeli bombardment of your country i think it's added with enough and i think behind it there is a clear clear resolve it's all by russia really for that the skies of syria to make it off limits to all of these you know nato aggressors and to the special people these really really jets that keep really piloting were there nationally recognized rights you think it's good enough because putin appeared to say it's just a tragic series of events we didn't say didn't seem to tell israel to stop bombing and because israel for its sake says it was bombing to stop hezbollah or iran in your country you think putin's response is fine yes i mean he doesn't need to say it really are you not bluntly i mean it's obvious from things that we we starting
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to feel on the ground things will be new rules will be set. you know i don't think you want to get lots lightly that this really is you lose a hidden behind it deformed like a cloud behind the russian jet in order to really cause this tragedy and there are some you know also some theories saying that the israelis themselves struck the russian ship anyway and we have fifteen russian groups that we consider martyrs and we send our condolences to their families and they die but that in syria there died protecting the skies of syria the cost of their debt without any doubt is on the shoulders of israel if the israelis really want to dest. political statement they should try again to see what happens but do you think that this israeli attack on syria the latest because there have been many i know in your country is linked to the sochi do. on syria between turkey and russia well most definitely when it comes
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only hours after the announcement of only hours this is not a coincidence this is this is a clear message clear message to everybody who signed the deal particularly the russians that they are acting on the no you know on behalf of syria and telling been telling everybody in the deal that we can start whatever we want we don't like this deal we don't want you to do to aurilia liberate libya dismantle jihad is an implicit but what is the deal is our dismantling jihad isn't it without finding a single bullet and we don't want that we want it to be hot so on we want the most always a look at a branch in syria to be at there to be strong there and we will do reveal any effort to really ease the situation this is the israeli message and they do what they're always at that whenever there is such an improvement on the ground the we have we've seen we always saw an israeli air strike in the past but as i said
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israel says it was wrong to attack his buller but i'm sure by the international legal implications of that they also as part of the deal that the players there russia and turkey have fifteen thousand is the number of rebels in liberal incautiously seem to welcoming but are these fifteen thousand so-called rebels in adlib are they backed by britain well first of all the numbers not fifteen thousand the u.n. said that wasn't for indeed parties for in one thousand foreign we estimate the number to reach a hundred thousands. among the hundred thousand we think thirty thousand before enters we just want them out of our country they belong to one hundred and maybe three nationalities they're not serious they are the latin boys didn't they didn't notice from zawahiri from the cave in time and what are i don't know where do you think any country in the words particularly the united kingdom would welcome only
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one or two of these girls why are why do it form for me as a syrian citizen why do i have to accept the existence of them thousands for in jihad he's only miles away from from this interview only miles away actually it's like to get ominous from where we are they are on the borders of course the knowledge and this office here the chamber of industry is on that board also so basically. whether there are ten thousand whether there are ten people whether there are thirty thousand or one hundred thousand their existence is not welcome here but if any agreements that that says that the that will dismantle them and take them from our country peacefully we welcome it. if these agreements fear for whatever reason then we have no other option but the use of force to liberate our country to save between million civilians obviously is the
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being there and to make millions more return you mention that two kilometers away from you but i know you've warned us in an interview with the statement a b.b.c. here that there's a chance of them coming to the air this studio what do you think the state of syrian intelligence is about the returning foreign jihadists as you call them to london and to britain look we don't lie and for indy hardy's to go anywhere because they are dangerous the big deal societies the indigenous what why do the why do normal british citizen citizens have the support from the stupid actions of their government this is no one like this we stop it from them and because from our somebody i'm telling you we don't want the suffering to be imposed on any nation in the world ok but what danger they pose what danger they pose britain these people that after a working order by britain are people of great danger great that you are actually you have base that some of their terrorism already did but this government needs to
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change course immediately they need to establish beyond that they need to reopen their embassy they need to recognize the legitimate rights of the syrian people and the syrian state and they need to cooperate in the fight against international terrorism otherwise there will be the blame if any harm is to dog or on any british citizen but you support to resume suspending money for security forces that worked in areas controlled by terror i think you know i mean i think the reason he is doing or not of policies and actions are to promote and to some boat that are isn't serious there is so many clenched money into the wind tell me it's the white helmets are known to be outside the us. army it. you know are not the most mysterious are all good only in muslim thought only in the places where you have a guy got to lose their main friend as
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a nato member like holland has refused has now stopped all aid to the white helmets will obviously have to get reaction well it's their legs it's still a big hole and there's been supporting beastie are these four now six or seven yes i mean no i mean they and this should be accountable because the officials in holland that support that did the ok i think all products that are that are it's organization even dutch law are not only a british law when i married the law you m.r. so basically it's not enough for us to say well i still hope i will end the of my financial support to these jihadi groups really what about your support read what about the cost that the harm that you cost to us to the syrian people by supporting the jihadi groups are going to not you're not going to be held accountable to that let's just get on to this so-called false flag attack that moscow is warning the world about it's quite quiet here about syria in the mainstream media what do you make of this the olive group is a british company denying it has any involvement in the at most because they were
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involved in the training of people for a false flag chemical attack that we should expect what do you think on the ground there in the lead or does it sound believable. look exactly yes i mean we've this happened before and not you know if you remember when i was just sixteen and the place when they would be would be shot the movie the infamous movie the last metabolic bull in a limbo it was it was a local guy that is at the time and we had a big one there weren't filming this so this will be the kind of course with the black flag were protecting the site so same thing happened already in just a short in it some people also told us that the they also feel a little be fabricated in the city of al-bab to be aired later their movies are already recorded. just need the bush start to start but them to air the all they already think they don't always know what is aleppo trade fair all we
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hear about is war there in britain of course supporting groups in your country there's a trade for aleppo slowly starting to get back to normal what it was before this war yes actually it was the only book fair and then after that there was just the recent one was the mass of the rush of fear was all about participated in the big number of companies. the economic let me know is helena thompson the artistic director of the social political independent direct theatre company and the writer of the burning tower about the grand fell disaster thanks seller for voting us in to spend tell me about what the burning towers of the bank has back to who are sharing the history of social housing when you come to play figuring on african apes. and as the pecos on that one of them it's a question for survival and she finds it difficult to talk about how experience
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it's us an aunty into asked to get involved and support in sharing. before it's even revealed that one of them is a greenville survivor the history there. telling very entertaining lee with or leo and all sorts of other effects in the draw are very different to the history. nor documentaries about bridges tree there's something we all about the history that we share i think and that with mt steve comes through we do have a living history program where kids go and talk to local residents about their member of social housing and that's what informed that's what forms the soundscapes of the trauma that's what informs the characters and that's what gives it back authentic edge because the jugular goodness are in their history that they're telling before this revelation they seem to suggest that it's really is a break in the whole idea and concept of social housing with vinegar in the first
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few years. that's right there is a line in the past i think what sarah said we'll welfare is gone you think it's a wound you think it surrounds us all and the history mapped is and can be protected but the actual safety net doesn't really exist and it's just that the whole grenfell disaster is not about clouding more firefighters not doing what they should be it's about something else about people being ignored correct and i think that that is the issue i think residents in social housing and not least into the housing is not valued as it should be and i think if we don't listen to each other that we sell ourselves short collectively as a society so the play is about the importance at least i'm sure the government would say see they are listening and that's where this is big inquiry. in a sense the government has responded to the critique in the book it's good that we
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have an inquiry i mean it would be a terrible mistrust if there were no inquiry but there are a number of other things that the government needs to recognize as we failings there's a lot of social hasn't been torn down there's no investment in social housing social housing is often one down and housing is a basic human right we need to provide social housing and the sense of community that's built into the d.n.a. of these buildings is irreplaceable yeah due to dramatically the the communicate that without it being boring at all because it is clearly explained the tearing down. our approach was to bring people into social housing itself so it's really important that the play happens in a council estate community space and it's really important that that space actually comes to life that the history of that space that the sense that that space could
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be a place where a fire happens where. blackouts happen where the place is not maintained all of that actually happens and you experience it from we'll i think that's what keeps the play its urgency and really makes you feel wow this place matt is it's bringing people together and it has a life of its own but ironic that it is in a community of the city which is being gentrified which is losing social housing and or the government says it's now brings as well as in affordable homes the play also addresses that in fact yes the place where they play takes place is contested in a sense though this particular paces council house community now that's a place that spirit squawked it was courted it in two thousand and five it was fantastically one down we had no security no leads since grenfell as part of our
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current formatters campaign and because of our own lives we were able to wait one point nine million in we still need another half a million for two point four million we and that's are showing look we can invest in social housing we're going to make this place beautiful this place is loved it's historic it matter is so that's i think that's the hope that we're trying to express we're trying to say they would good can come from grenfell but you need to be proactive about it you need to fight it and just finally also when the player is wrapped in not only a century of social housing or more the windrush hostile environment is even injected is that the point is a rated making or systemic yes it seemed to me that wind wash was part of this problem of disempowerment where again people who have bought so much to our society and not been given a voice at the apologies are not felt to be sincere in the way they've been treated
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is insulting and the play gives them a voice and says these people really matter and if we're not careful we're going to lose them jobs and thank you frank. well i'm now joined by naomi israeli youth embassador for the speed there's a company she lost friends on the night of the ground and we think of being going underground so how can fear. grief and how did it help you understand your grief. examine my grief because i thought i had dealt with. one of the people. she wrote on her facebook because she was able to get through. and it made me realize. i actually feel and i know
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this many people in the area because i. have to get up and move on. because. you have to. because in the immediate aftermath the prime minister was great is. going there she eventually did visit the area yes she did. but yes she did. she said help. the first responders. but. you can't pick and choose who you're supporting. the choir it is ongoing but then this week we heard about these letters about the fact that people have to return to the ground zero i. just tell me about the less isn't what you think of what they mean as regards the authorities response to the disaster. i think.
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i think. that just goes to show what happens when you hold people to account because i think people people. and rightly so because you for years they've been telling. anyone that would listen. isn't safe the clothing that is on it isn't safe. and then took in the same people telling you oh it's safe for the very same people that did this it went to. two people dead and now they're telling them always safe to go back. and then also. you have you have people. telling them. this is what needs to happen it doesn't need to happen to have a heart compassion and understand that these people not only grief they're suffering from p.t.s.d. because they were told they had to evacuate their homes but you're sleeping soundly to go in business and that's you know your neighbors are smithereens house is
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probably in jeopardy because the for nothing i'm into talking on the seo way as far as i. know i would be i would be just as has since moved back. and remind us how rich the royal birkin's. is up the road. would you. have. looking up for. three cause of a million. because another be will talk about the emergency response in the immediate aftermath of. just one percent of the value of a big house down the road but it paid for professional mental health services and emergency provisions right there in the state of the community coming together it just makes me think what is the point of having the council. has to provide. safety just help the general running of this community.
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the community stepped up provided that. they should have been doing we did their jobs affectively they should. they should be in that position. because. now i know you've said before that despite the so-called social cleansing that's happened right across the country since the twenty crash you said actually community still does survive and after the greenville business the number of. communities so massive five despite it all we have to is not so much as a question. maybe. because we can't leave it up to them because look what happened we did we lost seventy two feet. and. many people in the area think. to agree with them.
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we just know how we had to come together it was even that what would happen if we had waited to get this do. you see when you make an allegation like that i mean this program going into trouble from the time for saying it was promoting plus war when you say i think being protected adequately by the authorities. is you. i mean do you think people should go to jail. if you killed seventy two people you would be in jail like i'm not talking like a little bit of. the. pay phone i know i mean like hard time because like lessons must be learned and actions have consequences and if you tell people did it have consequences. of people's lives of course maybe remarking on the fact that the royal palace is not too far from here being refurbished with taxpayers' money as is redevelopment of public resources here in this area well i
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have nothing against the world. i just feel like their involvement of grenfell it comes of may just comes across as is that like damage control. to make sure that my friends. and as for media coverage. for the community. but i'm glad. to help. rather they use their influence for what we. use it. is they killed my friends like they killed my friends but my whole family just . sort of there's like no no no i'm just.
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going to minds about it. people. point but then i'm not so hopeful of it because. reza. thank you. for the show will be back next week hearing from the with. mason and we're back on monday to investigate you from the man who could soon be the country's next president. social media with you on monday the birthday because of the death of the american dream.
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