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welcome to sophie incomes of the shevardnadze it's been seventy years since western powers toppled maybe a strongman moammar gadhafi live in the country splays and in tatters and unity in libya ever be reached again well i ask you stuff i wish i were the former deputy prime minister of libya. seventy years after the overthrow of moammar gadhafi libya still has no unified all thirty militias up mud and petty squabbles civilians fleeing droves and several rival governments a pilot has to stop the wave of chaos how can the pros as a country back together again even begin. what must happen for dozens of rival

actors to come together and will libya even survive as one nation. or the former deputy prime minister of libya welcome to the show great to have you with us lots going on in the country to libya's rival leaders prime minister fayyad and general haile for i have to i have agreed to hold elections in december this is arrives now says that the situation is too unstable to hold france's and my own mccall who meditate at the talks says elections should still be held as planned as they would help to stabilize and unify the country which side are you on i am on the side of the libyan people i mean clearly it is there is a plan to have an election but of course the situation in the country today is not really favorable to that i mean there is really war going on in the east there is a lot of clashes around tripoli as has been for the last two or three weeks so this

environment is not really suitable for any election that can be done lucian of the forces that mr soros has has issued an order to to form if they will really become very serious in doing their job and if they have the power and that's the thing it is. and also i think the important thing right now the united nations mission is a think being of much better role than they have done over the last four or five years at least now they are calling things by their names they are talking about the issues of the problems that are facing the country and also showing there is far more support from the international community to overcome this challenge that we are facing at this time. so the libyan officials are reported to be anticipating american airstrikes in the country against isis targets should the u.s. military come back again to libya is it a good idea do you think that at some point there will have to be another interaction to bring this and less fighting to an end. i mean clearly there are

some strikes against some. darvish a presence in different parts of the country which is has been going on i mean this has been done to me regardless if you want to or not no clearly i don't want to see if serious military intervention in the country but i want to see a serious political and economic intervention from the powers to be because all those militias clearly they have over the years they were able to make a lot of money and so their accounts they are not a libya they are overseas so they can be used clearly again assume there are those people even if they see serious commitment from for example the united states since you mentioned that then i think though those people would be able to. hear to this pressure and they would be rightly willing to compromise simply comes to solution where they will be able to get out from from the political arena of getting out

from the life of the people and just stay in their products until when the moment where they can be dismantled and been integrated in the in the in the big society so the twenty eleven revolutionaries as well as khadafi you are politicians people loyal to general huffed are and tribal leaders have recently launched a libyan peace group initiative in tunisia how do you estimate the chances to and do it in crisis. i mean there is there is a lot of factions in libya i mean clearly i mean still have to read to me is is one of those people who are causing this this problem and he'd say we are through this problem by his campaign that started in two thousand and fourteen when he attacked bin ghazi and and of course the time there is a group small group of people who are really they are a terrorist group but of course this campaign has gone on for four years and it did not do any good for the country itself i'm in the city mostly dismantled and also

at the same time there is there is all these groups where they are clearly bear that to be able to overcome the problem that has today only peons have to join hands together let's join hunder stunt to revenge what taking place in two thousand and eleven or two thousand and fourteen will ever that has but to join hands so they can work together to have a better future for themselves for their children for the grandchildren to general haftar who is libyan national army controls to east of the country and doesn't recognize the government in tripoli says that tripoli must be liberated he threatens to move on tripoli on the time is right if that is the case what is the point of all this peace talks groups for and mediations. i mean of course i mean i mean to have to come clean whatever he wanted but there's no such thing as general national army i mean this is his numbers. matter u.s. has over one trillion dollars in debt more than ten times happy. eighty

five percent of global wealth to the rich the point six percent market thirty percent your home with four hundred five hundred per second per second and. twenty thousand dollars. china is building two point one billion dollars. but don't let the numbers overwhelm. the only numbers you need remembering one. for the one. where bad with. the former deputy prime minister of libya discussing whether

libya's division can we overcome any time soon so this son of moammar gadhafi saif al islam was willing to take part in libya's presidential election diplomats working on libyan peace talks a saif al islam is a symbol of a consolation for many libyans what's your take i mean does he have a role to play in the future of libya i mean i mean any any libyan has the right if they are not convicted in a court to float if they could not commit crimes against the country in the libyan have the right to participate in the political system in libya become gone for a presidential. so far was the safety islam which i don't know exactly what he is i mean the last i've been told that he is imprisoned in the. i hear that maybe he was left but again i don't know what he has i mean he should come out and tell us where he is a fee is interested in doing that so so in principle anybody who did not was not convicted for a crime in libya i don't think that mr safely can do that unfortunately because

when he has all the power unit his lifestyle he cannot do much as methodically came out and he threatened the libyan people when the revolutions were started so i don't think that he is really contributing figures because again because of his history the history of his father and when he has all the power when his father was in power he has all the power to do with what he want and we haven't seen much been done by him or his father in favor of the of the libyan people i says were expelled from their libyan stronghold a year ago but just recently they've claimed the attack on the oil facility near tripoli the terminus a church for international and security affairs us that the group is now more active and organized than a year ago should we be worried that the group will use libya's disarray to re-emerge and raise stablish itself. of course the it's a very unfortunately i mean the the instant that you mentioned on the.

own seed oil national company last ten days or so of course there was always these individuals who they probably did belong to the irish or belong to somebody else who can attack the country because clearly the country is unstable unstable and there is there is a lot of people who they can commit a lot of crimes and among them people who they say that they are part of the russian not saying there is no dashed presence i'm sure there is but it is they are not as a year ago or a year and a half ago when they have a whole city and a territory libya which is under control in sirte and that was fought by the libyan be able themselves they were expelled were of course by some help from the international power especially the u.s. but clearly this is the way to do it it is we can fight against dark because terrorists as an ideology is is not accepted to leave it completely reject the libya because the libyan people overall there are very modest and mother mother to

muslim people they refuse the tribal for ideology but of course when there is a state of instability when there is a conditions like what we have today then clearly some people who will be able to be influenced by this by this and i don't think that there will be there even in the whole world in the coming years because nobody will be able to accept what they are teaching or what they will be willing to what they will find people here and there will be willing because of the spirit or for me other reasons to commit such crimes and maybe even commit suicide and kill other people in some people who have nothing to do with with them libya's oil production has been surprisingly stable despite the armed conflict that is going on i mean seems that yeah militias are willing to fight each other. thing libya is a prior to the united states or to russia or. in an hour or two the powers to be unfortunately be slipped down into deprived of those those countries so they don't

have no strategy for it and that's why clearly the smaller countries in the world they're playing a bigger role in libya to destabilize it instead of the. measure countries admit their powers of the world who they can play a different role being disengaged from it so see they have contributed negative because i mean i see one of the major problems and that we have over the last few years is those bodies which we have elected who they did not do anything to serve the people of libya itself so so i think it is it is a struggle that we are going through as libyans i know it's very painful yes to all of us and it is very painful to our people but clearly we still there is a hope that we will overcome all those challenges. especially if the international community. i was going to say thank you very much for sharing your thoughts on libyan reality and reality on the ground it was being great talking to

you good luck with everything we were talking to or the former deputy prime minister of libya discussing the country's trouble transition seven years after the overthrow of walmart khadafi that's it for this edition of sophie and call see you next. week.

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