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well there's a more coming up today but first why was president mccall's admission that france killed and tortured in algeria considered breaking news this month to korver told the world about the battle of algiers in his oscar nominated film is labor government support for killing in nigeria under harold wilson breaking news is the legacy of shell in nigeria in the one nine hundred ninety s. breaking news also not to the widow of environmental activist dr barron incurable calm rate of cancer we were courtesy of amnesty international so the prison one call me oh. you have to pick on me so i took it and i wonder. is this true that you guys already kill me. and some of their way to earth are limited thore what happened before mao the man died. then jory prime minister john major called the executions judicial murder and
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supported nigeria's expulsion from the commonwealth but today shell and nigeria are all good again we already have very good cooperation between. here in the process of. defense security. and we have. worked together to step. well joining me now is someone who could be nigeria's next president king's name of god he's a former under secretary general of the u.n. and deputy governor of the central bank of nigeria kings the thanks for coming on the show to raise a mate in nigeria just in the past few weeks most populous country in africa she said britain is going to be a strategic or key partner of the brics it will be under your presidency why not so long as you know. nigeria as national interest is also in the back national there is no reason why not i mean we have very important relate. and the reason is
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government has failed to secure nigeria is because they have a very simplistic understanding of national security in nigeria ninety nine percent of the security chiefs in nigeria come from one part of the country so it is obvious that the guy in principle is parochialism they come from behind or is part of the country they are not diversified nigeria is a big and complex country and for you to have all the intelligence you need you need to have people from different parts of the country doing the americans think do you think the cia would support your candidacy we have a we have a declassified eighty three documents in the cia like this man back in eighty three well i cannot comment on the operations of intelligence agencies but i can tell you my focus is on what the people of nigeria think the people of nigeria do not think i had about the performance of the president mohammad to government today they believe it's a fairly oh and there's a groundswell of opinion that the risk called all politicians have failed us
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it's sixty years of independence and the jury has got nigeria's citizens of gotham bora bora where us the country has a lot of potential as everyone knows some of us think it's time for something new something different and something bold someone like myself for example i think i would be able to engage international partners much more effectively whether it's the united states or russia or the united kingdom i have been a professor in the united states i have been a united nations official for many years i have been a deputy governor of the nigerian central bank but you said that about russia and the united states how would it is brics would you improve relations officer was a dearer than president of course because i understand economics president because government has not shown a very effective understanding of how international economics works or even how local economies can be developed to give a jury strategically from wiki leaks we know diplomatic cables or shell trying to stop china. and russia for gaining oil contracts well you know there's always been
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the government have known about that with us your disk is president up probably neva shell or would you favor russian no i kind i favor the nigerian national interest and we are prepared to walk with various international so long as nigeria's interests are protected the problem with nigeria's politicians which is why the people increasingly want in a new visionary kind of leadership from nigeria is that these politicians are very corrupt and they are only out for their own interests you know the interests of the multinationals on various countries is legitimate but the interests of nigeria and they also legitimate and we can work out a win win scenario it's not but why hasn't it work so for the i.m.f. we've been down there will bank of been down that doesn't want because of the incompetence of nigeria's political leaders they don't understand economics they don't understand international relations it's all nigeria's fault. it's not all if you allow it i mean if you're lucky if you allow if you allow for a negotiating partners to screw you whose fault is this is the way to get on to
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that i'm sorry doesn't it suits. nato nations perhaps to keep. doing so well so it doesn't become too competitive it's not about that it is the nigerians will mend it's because oxen facebook stocks and google stocks are wonderful and you can make money but how about the underbelly which is most people who are living in third world status within the greatest nation. in film director. paulison will come to him going underground. i've been saying the numbers means they matter us is over one trillion dollars in debt more than ten thousand dollars fine tempting. eighty five percent of global wealth to the rich each week. six percent markets thirty percent.
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some with four hundred to five hundred three per second per second. growth to twenty thousand dollars. china's building two point one billion dollars a i industrial but don't let the numbers overwhelm. the only numbers you need to remember one one showed the mid one normally. it's hard to imagine decades after the war a nazi doctor was still active and rich in the nineteen seventies crittle had as the chair of its board a man convicted of mass murder and slavery at auschwitz a german company developed. a drug that was promoted as completely safe even during pregnancy it turned out to have terrible side effects what has happened to my baby anything. you know she said is just. mimics
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a little mind victims have to this day received no compensation they never apologized for the suffering that not only want the money i want the revenge. welcome back of bankers are to blame for lehman brothers which crashed ten years ago this month and catalyze mass austerity where did the bankers go to school someone has written a book attacking the very ethos behind the world's business schools is professor martin parker his new book shut down the business school what's wrong with management education what if thanks for coming on no one ever contemplate shutting down business schools my sense is that business schools are very dangerous institutions other institutions that. each
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a very particular model of capitalism. that celebrates certain kinds of organization and economy to the exclusion of all sorts of other alternatives and given that we human beings now face a species threatening environmental crisis as well as all sorts of problems of environmental justice and inclusion and so on i think it's time we started seriously to think about alternative business practices to why do you think it is the book like this is going out now in the twenty first century when the heyday when they began was the eighty's was it taking so long for people to write this down for you it is no longer right. and it's true that the growth of the business school in the states is much earlier than is in northwest europe and in the u.k. in particular were i work then we really don't see business schools emerging on a mass scale until the late eighty's early ninety's but those schools have now started to reconfigure the universities that they're part of something like in the
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u.k. something like one in seven students are now studying some variant of business management finance or a cow you talk about approaches a relationship with universities as hosts yes that's right you have to go into sure and i might my sense is that the effective privatisation of the university sector in the u.k. has been enabled by the business school because the business school has been the part of the university which most universities abuser's cash machine in order to keep the chemistry department open and make sure the classic still gets taught and so on so what effectively is happened is that the business school has kind of introduced a set of management practices of ways of thinking about finance of audit of regulation and so on that's gradually come to constitute the university itself in our structures the universities for the vast majority of u.k. universities an increasing number of northwest european universities now regard themselves as commercial concerns in various ways are involved and also. series of
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business practices but also using management and business language to explain how they do what they do and i think that's quite dangerous i think it's quite corrosive of certain fundamental values about what universities should be and why they exist in the first place so yeah i kind of like that metaphor of the university big a history of the business school being a kind of virus that's now been injected into the university and is reconfiguring the university as you do mention would be really going to think that they are basically places that teach people how to get money out of the pockets of ordinary people and keep it for themselves that's what the so fundamentally feels would be yeah i mean. i need to be a little careful in that there are people like me within some business schools who are trying to teach more heterodox more critical kind of curriculum but the vast majority of stuff that's taught in the about thirteen thousand business schools on the planet is entirely pro-capitalist effectively you might as well rename these things schools for capitalism because that's what they do as if there were no other
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ways of thinking about business organization and i think they clearly are no surprise as to who funds them when group gives them growth i think you mention oxford say business school got some money from the broker the forty three billion pounds saudi arms deal the deal very controversial in this country money is coming from these forces within corporate capitalism to then teach another generation to be like them that's right i mean if you go to many of the major business schools their endowments sponsored let's just say it has in some time to the seats in the lecture theatres have been donated by various corporate benefactors because of course those corporate benefactors benefit very materially from the kinds of knowledge that's produced in those places so it's a bit like a kind of narcissistic game in a way his name you know the the corporation goes the university asked the university to accept a big cash in return for producing a kind of knowledge that presents the corporations a splendid place to be. and to be clear you know attacking the idea of management
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in this book and although you also say it's not necessarily political you know a bit more clearly in mo and che guevara would've never attacked management say it's so i'm going to prove it and i've got a slightly different way of thinking about it which is essentially that the concept the key concept i think we should be talking about is organizing so this is how human beings and things come together to do stuff you know how to make things how to produce stuff how to share things and so on and i think there's lots of different ways in which human beings can organize themselves effectively what's happening with the business schools is that a particular kind of corporate managerialism is becoming a default model so as if there were no of other available kinds of organizing and that seems to me a really dumb thing to say the metaphor i use in the book is this idea well if you were studying history you wouldn't just study the fifteenth and seven centuries or if you were studying biology you wouldn't just study human legs and human heads of something but effectively that's what the business school is doing it's claiming to
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represent organizing but yet only focusing on one very small aspect of it and i think that's dishonest and dangerous as a mother barbara thank you. well from the university halls of capitalism to the corridors of power now joining me is actor and host of r.t. is watching the hawks and director of the new film a century of war sure joy and welcome to going underground i've got to say before we get on to the documentary. is that there's a lot of western destabilization in the western hemisphere being talked about in british mainstream media venezuela one of the worst amazing films about destabilization you're here with yourselves or. the film but you with the baby cradle by james woods i was acting without knowing that i was acting you think it still has relevance today of itself it was an incredible movie i would recommend
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everyone watch it because like you said it's about. really that whole time period of creating death squads and it was it was salvador it was the contras was quite a model and by the way these these operations still exist in different countries around the world they're just not really talked about until after the fact let's go to a century of war a very apolitical film comparing the decline of the usa to the decline of the british no obviously speaking in britain people in britain didn't refuse to believe the british why that comparison i don't know that i would necessarily say it's straight comparisons i do think i agree actually the british empire does exist the commonwealth exists the queen is the head of this massive empire still whether or not they have tax havens some of the most tax is likely if savings and you have an ideology and empire of the mind as churchill called it right the americans bought into it new world order was a book that i published about that relationship to the british empire and how they incorporated america into it so essentially we have become a military garrison state for what used to be the british empire and the financial
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issues ship to wall street and in the city of london goes back to the origins of wall street but why the collapse of america is because while we don't necessarily see it on the front page if you go through the middle of the country and travel through the towns like when i was in princeton princeton studying a college and i was traveling by train to new york i would see trying to do bronze wakin of the towns of america fall apart exactly they'd fall in the rust belt as a cold and so that's that a case not about the fact of yeah we have all street stocks and facebook stocks and google stocks are wonderful and you can make money but how about the the underbelly which is most people who are living in third world status within the greatest nation in the world and you seem to suggest that the. government itself is being privatized away in the united states we followed the factors lead right that was the whole point was from the seventy's late seventy's carter actually start of the
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lot of that privatization process of the banking sector and you know obviously through the eighty's but that she was doing in london was very much mirrored by reagan throughout the eighty's and. that privatization that ultimately you know kind of. you could say that moment really was the renunciation of glass steagall when we took that down by clinton actually did it right in about two thousand the separation of banks investment banks exactly last eagle have protected since the new ones talking about trump isn't even talking about separate going back on that clinton precisely no one's talking about putting glass i do think that is the facts because many times as well it would make sense i mean look to me it makes sense to go back to classical exactly i think brought it up during the election with warren some point i think was an advocate for it it makes sense to protect your basically not to not to play with your positives money which is what creates the scam speculation but the problems are so much money at stake when you have this massive amounts of collusion that goes on at the very top right with the with the various
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private banks in bed with the insurance companies and all of these you know this conglomerate of financial power it's just there's too much money in a sense to say no to that if you mention collusion if you turn on television stations in the united states today the collusion we're talking about is very definitely the threat to the united states posed by most if not all of the threats against working that's the whole point of what empires do they always the direct the enemy the enemy abroad the enemy is out there that's the whole point you basically consolidate through endless war and i think j.f.k. the film there was a great line where it's war is the sort of misquoting a bit like war is the operating principle of any state if you really want to effect change if you really want to have control of your society you have to be in a war time mentality economy because it goes top down executive orders and so really since the second world war we've been petrol war first with i mean really
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since the first world war but there was a ten year break right the second world war starts we go into the cold war after that the cold war goes until the ninety's we reprieve although we have bosnia or kosovo. iraq won and then what happens nine eleven ever since. perpetual terror terror starts to wane oh now we have russia again so it's just it's a constant war economy but some would say that everything he could have been tweeted by donald trump before he became president he said he was against the war as it was some flip flopping your film in one sentence on detroit the car industry of the two million workers he's always dogging about the death of manufacturing industry and he won michigan yeah so. trump isn't the answer to a lot of people's prayers although i was necessarily been able to effectuate everything i think it's unrealistic to expect the president to come into a we're talking about again oligarchies here the princeton university i think it
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was a put out a study of couple years ago about how america is not a republican or a democracy it's an oligarchy so you're talking about major financial vested interests and some are more internationalist in their in their agenda and others are more nationalist i think represents the oligarchies the ruling money wealth that's more nationalistic that's why he you know basically jettison the t p p right away he's not a proponent of nafta he does want to i think improve the american core industries you know i think his corporate tax cuts problematic as they may be do make it more of an incident they do incentivize corporations to repatriate come back and employ merican workers so look he's not a perfect figure by any means i'd probably rather see someone between trump and bernie sanders but there is there is thing there are things that he's doing in standing for that is symbolic of what the american people want and that's why he was had the you know basically he was voted in for that reason. thank you and before we go we should also say regarding allegations by amnesty international
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against sheldon paul one that the oil companies responded saying that misty international's other geishas relating to its current operations a falls without merits and failed to recognize the complex environment in which it all parades shelter refutes the allegations that it's a blow to the nigerian. military crackdown in the gony land in the one thousand nine hundred shells as states it did don't collude with the military authorities to suppress community unrest and in no way encourage or advocated any act of violence in the nigeria will be back on wednesday the day after we called in a speech to the british labor party conducted by social media with your wins eighteen years to the day twelve thousand capitalists are my around the world protested against globalization join the i.m.f. and world bank summit and. you know world of big partisan lot and conspiracies it's time to wake up
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to dig deeper to hit the stories that mainstream media refuses to tell more than ever we need to be smarter we need to stop slamming the door on the bad and shouting past each other it's time for critical thinking it's time to fight for the middle for the troops the time is now for watching closely watching the hawks. what is the state of journalism well let's have a look at the new york times the paper catalogs what is called rush to get its conclusion is astounding this and much much more on this edition of crossfire.
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air defense and control systems as well as radar jamming that's russia's response after its military plane was dying by the syria last week bosco says the blame lies with israel which denies responsibility. president will preside over the security council i am sure that's going to be the most watched security council meeting ever a lot of good things can happen. also to come.
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