you. know if we knew that. was how it was going to come you're not going to do was. the headlines this is the russian defense ministry publishes radar records that's a contradiction israel's claim that his jets had left syrian airspace when a russian surveillance plane was mistakenly downs' by syrian air defenses. both say we're in defiance of u.s. sanctions the european union's foreign policy chief says the block will continue to trade with iran and make sure secure payment channels are maintained frederick american remains announcements came after a meeting on the sidelines of the un general assembly. the rights of sexual

assaults in south africa now ranks among the world's highest with new cases a thinning old swede's we have from some of the victims. of fear. to depreciate she tried to commit suicide this happened so many years ago. let's i can get into nothing would have been done. you can read all about those stories over on our websites will be back to the world news update in about an hour's time right now though hey we're not internationalists cross-talk and if you're watching in the u.k. or island stick around for renegade and. a little in welcome. rostock for all things are considered i'm peter lavelle that is

the state of journalism well let's have a look at the new york times the paper catalogs what is called russia gate its conclusion is astounding this and much much more on this edition of promised. cross talking some real news i'm joined by my guest here in moscow mark boal to he's an international affairs and security analyst we also nothing but pure evidence i guess overall i would be a bit concerned about the state of journalism opened up with because. this is just emotional rhetoric about every time they do put forward evidence we often find that you should there's no evidence that there are but also several occasions we see that it's been disproven for example russia the electric grids or the voting booths but what happens after these journalists obviously got a completely wrong. and i guess that think it's worth having

a debate about what extent it should be permitted to interfere somewhat in other selections but of course that's what the russian president also brought forward but if you have your high government official let's guess who i'm talking about you're a high government official you have a private server that is not secure don't you think every single intelligence agency in the world we've got to start looking all we founded on secured server ok that's what intelligence operations are all about so why should be surprised when foreign countries try to find out what's going on. covertly when the united states is doing the same thing around the world twenty four seventh's not the i'm in the new york times defense on this racism it's a well known fact that racism did not exist in the u.s. on till a few supposedly russian trolls on facebook posted a few racist memes since you know. well it's all polarized just because of these to

st petersburg and now i got in on this whole thing about the u.s. meddling in russia's elections and the long history of it to be fair the u.s. only does it to democratize russia and every other country around the world as you know well we've seen the u.s. has meddled in more countries elections according to carnegie mellon mellon research than any other country in the world by far but on the other hand what exactly is russia accused of assuming assuming they did it which i haven't seen the evidence they're accused of hacking some e-mails that exposed the democratic party the d.n.c. colluded with hillary clinton to rig their own primary is there any greater act of democratization than proving that the u.s. rigs its own elections well if it's true you could imagine you know putin saying

you're welcome. and it's also also if you want to look for outside meddling then you can look at christopher steele we can look at using g.p.s. then cryptically is really going to. cryptically donald trump said recently on the stump that america's allies are concerned about the release of these e-mails and text messages we can all speculate who those allies are i mean what i mean i ruin your interference by the same guy scott shane in february it writes it quite open a new york times yes at the new york times a russian american interferences in the elections have not been morally equivalent and of the cold but of course i don't he was already out there that need to get a third of the because the americans always supported the democrats and tried to leave it the influence of authoritarian governments while the russians did the will push it and and they provide the statistics. if the u.s.

intervened in eighty one elections well the white and russians together with the soviet period in just thirty six i mean can you imagine them seeking their culture waiting and you know what are their criteria and so there where there is good meddling and there is bad mettle and there is a good bit of that you see in the sprit ludes the star wars yes yes you know there is well there's a popular me that has been telling the young darth vader attic and don't dare attack i have the high ground that every time i hear a u.s. official say this we have the moral high ground don't you dare. i thought you were going to go to a short break and after that short break we'll continue our discussion on some real news stay with our.

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welcome back to cross talk were all things are considered i'm peter lavelle to remind you we're discussing some real news. ok now we're joined by martin j. he's in beirut and he's a freelance broadcast journalist martin it's good to have you back on the program let's talk a little bit about what's going on with russia israeli relations in lieu of what's happened in the last week or so with the the shooting down of a russian jet. accidentally we're told here what has been the fallout go ahead

mark. well it's at the moment it's up in the air this is a very serious subject which is really don't getting the correct amount of. media nuts largely force the relationship that israel has with russia is a very special israel is the only western ally which is active in syria and at the moment but has a very special relationship with a short lease that has recently so i think what's happening now is that all the analysts and the journalists will scratch your head some wondering what's the next step now from the use to there's a lot of. duplication and using must have to come from russia which italy is hoping it wouldn't be. who said but but i think in hades and in general in the south of israel there was an agreement between netanyahu and bolton that russia will power israel i think that what we're trying to go back to martin j.

here real quick and martin i mean the damascus government has been petitioning very heavily for more advanced anti-aircraft technology and that has been hotly debated and the russian side has pulled back to think that the russian government now is going to change its position. well in my will to let me think those issues throws the debate up in the air and you may we'll see it's not really the next coming weeks of russian syria on the new radio or neutral voices sitting around a table and saying well what can we do to prevent me again it may well not even be of missiles on the ground it may well even be ships in the sky because you could remember that so far until this point when israel was as close lipped on it legally and much into syria carries out the sorties it doesn't usually have any of the planes tools yet it surprises main its main problems on the ground so i'm wondering whether this is the point now where such people say look you know we've got an outdated decrypted air force but perhaps this is the try not to look at this to see

more military obviously this week because when the koreans both north and south put forward their ideas that they would like to increase their physical transportation corridor between them both rail and roads. with americans told our last hour sorry you can't do that so essential to their allies yeah they're all going to have their clients when they're secure that provide their essential tells you what they can do in america improve. it if we're not even your native language and you're doing it better than we think it is worth asking at whether or not there actually are an ally or a vassal state so it is i think there is more more awareness in south korea as well that if they do want to make peace with the north then they do have a problematic relationship with the u.s. of course on the one hand they do depend on for security on the other hand it's limited what the americans are willing as they have limited some homework yet i mean south korea north korea are basically ignoring the u.s. at this point which we long said on this show they need to do and they're taking

a whole series of steps all right they're starting to demilitarize at a small scale the d.m.z. which is ironically enough the most heavily militarized area in the world they're constructing having north korea dismantle missile testing sites. the presidents of the two. and kim jong un climbed a sacred mountain sacred to both north and south korea historically you know to their culture together these are all confidence building measures all being taken of course. thank god without the us in the room the only thing i'm worried about is what the u.s. will try to do to sabotage the burgeoning p. twenty seconds yes well i mean these case with the north and south korea is a question of sanctions being ineffective there was a very good article about sanctions in general and the americans conservatives this

week and it's very interesting that the united states is at the same time punishing china and wanting china to basically you know when there's something to say it's also putting tariffs on south korea so yeah that's another topic for another program here and we're going out of time many thanks to my guests here in moscow and in beirut this is the end of our broadcast segment stay with us for the extended version on our you tube channel see you next time and remember cross talk rules. financials i don't buy any i was on a few. of the friday. some of my ex from the future. it's hard to imagine decades after the war

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