unashamed focus on security and in good times that could lead to a better understanding but in bad times that could also provide a basis for a very sharp collision is the latter likely. well i think that it is getting a little bit more difficult to plea its traditional role in syria which is their role often known as broker. has always been proud of being able to preserve good relations with all the sides of the continent including shia and sunni including iran and gulf states is a terrorism by the stadiums and i think specifically about talking about two years ago there was a gentleman agreement between ourselves and easy to do. and did not want to interfere into the conflict between user and iran and in exchange.

made a commitment clearly an implicit and commitment not to interfere into the civil war in syria now casts is on that say on that precise point of the gentleman's agreement because the russian military explicitly now blames israel for what happened in syria even though i think president putin tried to soften that a little bit by calling it their chain of tragic events but the russian meant to prevent syrians from you know huge allies and the difference is can they can i see that one because i've seen some articles in the russian media for example know by guys at the suggesting that all these talk about israel just enough for it to cover out for the negligence and incompetence of the russian military personnel on the ground which ultimately allowed these to happen that's a very harsh claim but do you think politically moscow could have consciously taken i risk on its relationship with israel even to explain away such

a tragic. event well you know first of all to the best of my knowledge the defense systems. and the drone did to the russian yorker. we're not served by the russians but there is an icing on the ground and they are helping syria and you may already know that our strike has its own defense systems which are much more sophisticated and which are not. which are not under the control of the syrian military so what we are talking about is there are. no antiquated defense system as two hundred . leave fully controlled by the syrian army so even if we talk about negligence or low professionalism i think it's not really fear to blame there are military we then we should blame the syrian military for what they have done or what they have not done properly however let

me say that in my personal view it would be very ordered to see not on yahoo. putin he's relations with president putin into jersey just in order to shoot a couple of targets in syria because of course no one yahoo knew about the very emotional reaction of president putin to the incident was turkey so i was suggesting that it is perhaps the israeli military acting approach and it's only without their product in tears for knowledge so well you know i think there was one or you know some kind of news and but here in this particular case i agree with president putin i think it was a chain or miscalculations and coincidences i don't think that and you want to planned it and it was a deliberate provocation in my opinion that's

a little bit too far and i don't think that these are lives. would go for that given all the of that heat had to come from and even even now you take the you know the recent russian decision to supply. the hundreds to syria does it also change and to some extent the situation of the ground and definitely to the detriment of the ability of israelis to heed targets in syria with impunity speaking about that decision obviously israel has long objected to do you think there is still a role for mutual accommodation now that the decision has been taken i mean in the way it is implemented can russia still kind of make it up to israel well first of all we should keep in mind that. responded. with more serious matters. many speculated including some experts in the zero. would

try to enforce a no fly zone. to the north of damascus depriving israeli from an you're but you need to do he targets in syria and you would have been a very very difficult situation for israelis because on the one hand it is hard for them just to reject the idea of mortgages drawn some some would argue that some of the measures proposed by russia are sort of going in that direction but let's stay on as three hundred four for the moment the reason why i ask you this question is because. you know there is some obscurity on the part of the crumlin when it comes to the details of that transfer that i don't think was going to operate these systems and all saying and whether the syrians are going to pay for that do you think there is still a possibility that this move is temporary and that the russians will take it back when the when they leave syria in the store would that satisfy israel well first of

all or the thing that in politics everything is possible. and it's clear that russia had to respond i'm sure that it is there are those who are warned about this decision and. i think that there are many modalities in the implementation of these decisions and the modalities will depend to a large extent and on some commitments that israel might or might not made in terms of its future activities of the territory of syria but let me tell you that with all the problems not withstanding these cells of west an agreement is to work and you know american sometimes complain they say that you know russians be used to this agreement that they let sit in porsches to get directly to the golan cards but you know the agreement is still low predations so it does i think it is it suggests that there is always serve room for compromise and it's important that neither side

loses fees now you mentioned before that perhaps israel was a little bit emboldened by the trumpet in this ration and tried to change the rules of the game some of your colleagues western colleagues allege that it is put in a who is acting a porch mystically and using this tragedy to. change their rules of engagement in syria and cut off israel's overflights and strikes in that country do you agree with that and how much of an irritant has israel been to russia in that country. well i'm not sure that i can buy this position on the list for ours because of what we see today in syria he's that the intensity and the geography oh is there a list. that is expanding so that israel leads heaton targets not just in the south west of syria but basically.

heat cars parked to go all the territory of syria and it's not just about wars that might supply obstacles as a bowler it's about military production facilities so israelis changing at least its tactics i don't think that israel is trying to somehow. destroy. i don't think that they really care and bob. they care about iran and i think the position of syria sort of the position of israel is defined primarily by the new tensions between the united states and iran i think this is the real problem you know we have to find some kind of accommodation a and i think that unfortunately many in israel and in the united states i seem to fear annoyed about iran and its intentions well mr carson up we have to take

a very short break now but we'll be back in just a few moments stay tuned. the only thing you know we need to go back to invite more phone for something that's position that's also the position of the gun that. we should do the song goes in any case even if there is a number of contingency they've got to go back to the to the countries. you know world of big parts of the lot and conspiracy it's time to wake up to dig deeper to hit the stories that mainstream media refuses to tell more than ever we need to be smarter we need to stop slamming the door on the back and

shouting past each other it's time for critical thinking it's time to fight for the middle for the truth the time is now for watching closely watching the hawks. a little bit more emboldened and how it talks to russia for example well you know we're on his boot into the corner all right and the situation for indians is getting more and more difficult literally every month just sitting and they don't have a choice there are things or even you know would take the recent a terrorist attack in off across you know these mostly populated sunni dominated to or here in your own it's

a very serious case and did indians have already accused both gulf states and the united states of or critical not only natural for them it's only natural but again . it's a really serious signal can i bring you back to the syrian. war theater because we talked at length about the three hundred delivery but there is one more measure that the russians intend to take which may have an placation far beyond israel i'm talking about jamming satellite navigation on board the radar and communication system of all. of them to hear and see you said that you do not believe in the in the russian no fly zone but it actually looks quite like you. are well there are many ideas floating around and they actually said that they are intend to proceed it's not just an idea that this is a plan of action as far as and is that all eyes things that. what we can say for

sure is the terser is not interested in the further escalation. in the position on being easy to use is sort of like to you know there's some tension i think that definitely in mosul they would prefer to have some kind of commendation with the united states. and. no i think we should keep in mind that israel is important but turkey is also very important for our ship and i don't think that joshua will take any measures that in georgia for dogs there are some turkish cooperation right now because if turkey is all out of the non-pros is if turkey is out of the deal we have a problem i mean the russians syrians everybody has a problem so i think that. they might. make

a case for the my demonstrate that there are there was a variety of options and they can choose from this very key whatever these are appropriate at a given moment but i think. it would be prudent to least i hope that it would be if i can. take you back to these. seeming idea of the no fly zone over syria or at least the idea of jamming satellite communications there is an open secret in moscow that russia has tried repeatedly to get israel. to notify about their upcoming missions with a very limited success israel usually either fails to do that or doesn't do the very last minute do you think after that incident that's gone the change it's hard to tell because of course is there is a concern that even though too far off since well in advance. there are can lead this information so what is very much trouble is all about if you're going to be in

the us well. in the case of syria it's hard to talk about divorced. both i think that. it would be difficult to right know or to restore between devotion military and these are really counterparts no judging problems the statements coming from the russian ministry of defense. that our military is really. writing and. i don't think it's only a restaurateur i think that it's more than that after maybe there was some kind of seed of communications that means that they are likely to proceed with this intentions to job satellite communications which leads me to another question then because i interview a lot of current and former israeli officials and they all carry this narrative that israel can strike anywhere anytime when if security is involved which is you know montra geopolitical political and military but i think it's almost

a social monitor right now can that mantra be changed because of the russians because that's what actually russians are pushing forward to that this idea of jamming all satellite communications so i think that the border are sick and do. increase the costs. for israel if israel continues such behavior what extent i mean the one thing you know you know them denies there is but you know you thinking out their own their point it's very clear you know you for were are for. is terms for him as to be hunted to syria. and basically using. these systems to syria it's so these systems are not going to be controlled by russians i just that's how i read the decision it means. indeed.

israeli planes can be grounded because these systems are arguably much more sophisticated the ones that syrians used to be so deep or so for these strikes for israel will go and that's why either of the so concerned about these terms for that it's not just the israeli aircraft that's helped orating in the syrian airspace without demanded emerick and said there to do thing they will play along with this russian late new order. well of course no one who. formerly recognize their legitimacy over there are some decisions they would say well you know we don't bomb them to feel that we have to abide by the decisions made by most or even bugged by bashar assad and nobody read your article turn but in practical terms they will taken notice i think that would mean that. they will need. a different level of communications with the russians to avoid tension taxes

because again nobody wants to the best of my knowledge nobody wants to see these really were american aircraft droned it no bomb nobody wants to see another crisis around it but russia bones to have an impact on these really behavior. to use behavior and the other way around so it's a very delicate game and i think that both sides have. some courage on this leaves that they can put on the table that it's an appropriate moment now president obama and his syrian policy was often criticized for. drawing red lies that he couldn't or wouldn't then force or red lines that bad actors in the region of would be motivated to demonstrably break i wonder if russia indirectly is also trying to draw some sort of rad lines across the syrian air

space that with that you know bad actors in the region or even its partners its adversaries maybe i'm motivated to contest openly you know was the key word in your question is indirectly and that makes a difference you know. did not announce a no fly zone. but it never stated that there is a particular rebel. but. responded in current by supplying damascus with mostly just a key to a defense system i think this is there are such an approach not to state something especially if it is very difficult to. to stand by the decision indeed you know with so it was with obama but even in these early you know when the israelis say that iranian presence in syria is an acceptable one doesn't mean you

know they had a hand i'm not how i know they may go into you know to start a major ground offensive in suited to push it out are they ready to start a real war well apparently not so you know sometimes you know these lines are good for political or athletic. they might be misleading the fare to the iranian presence in syria is a recognized by is or they don't like it they would like to be alt but they understand that these particular juncture it is not at all is to expect us to his door. and i think the same can be applied to many other. situations within syria including sells the west including. including what's going

on to the east of the throat of syria were you know there are many many. regional situations we are. positions taken but all sides understand that there are limits and there are the lines of they cannot girls well mr carter now we have to leave it there but i really really appreciate you being with us today thank you thank you for inviting me thank you man carries around the years to keep this conversation going on our social media pages and i hope to hear. same place same time here and while the party.

and democrats are not socially liberal they are pro-war and so are the republicans and the problem people have a trumpet studies. and that's not acceptable in america today that runs except for against iran. well you know the top talk because the walking the walk and you know you have to do it you have to do but he's not actively going down the path that hillary clinton clearly was going to. go you don't accept the slow drop the oldest was ready to be a little bit. late in the race.

and i don't but i just thought i would love to meet a. lot of them somebody how does know it's a mask you never know what's happening and whether they're shooting whether it's your get. out of bed it's. sad but it's going to. be. that you would not. be just thinking of that in that you but i'm addicted to sit with a minute that's been in the muslim slot he's going to win the.

battle of the mummy. most of them and. this is quite a gathering. it's a lot of people. out of media. from continues to make a stop at the u.n. general assembly insisting his hardline approach to iran will wind through doesn't matter what world leaders think going to run a runs.