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for more details on any of our stories you can visit our top of the hour with the latest news there with international. you know we need to go back and buy more force that's not a position that's also the position of the guy. who can do that. because in any case even if there is a number of they've got to go back one day to the to the country. oh and welcome to cross talk we're all paying for consider time peter lavelle u.s.
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president donald trump took center stage at the united nations this week the middle east was very much on his mind particularly iran for some sitting in the general assembly trumps words were simply laughable however what is happening in the middle east and beyond is anything but funny. talking around and the middle east i'm joined by my guest in london he is a military analyst and in new york we cross the road he is a partner at global growth advisors international strategic consultancy group are gentlemen cross-talk rules in effect that means you can jump in anytime you want i always appreciated let me go to new york first i'm sure you saw donald trump a speech to the united nations much much of it had to do with the ran and how donald trump sees the world we all do know that in the general assembly diplomats heads of states well found some of his commentary funny they laughed ok
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a short montage. what he had to say using his words here iran's leaders so chaos death and destruction disruption saudi arabia the king and crown prince are pursuing bold new reforms and israel proudly celebrates its seventieth anniversary as a thriving democracy. that created a lot of giggles and smiles. what was he trying to say is this a path towards conflict because we're going to talk later in the program about how the europeans are trying to move away from the dollar system by creating its own swiss system and we can talk about what's going on in syria what happened in that speech is it has any meaning consequence in your mind go ahead in new york. peter you're right the president i think he kind of makes up his i guess because he
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starts a lot by again as a self center individual that he is and i think he thought that he's talking to it to his constituents somewhere in west virginia rather than to a global body so what we saw with the president he came out and he said his administration has done much more than any other administration in history of the nature and if you can make german diplomats laugh you are really doing something wrong but securely on the u.n. g.a. united nations journalist that general assembly opening but also the president of the united states had a very very harsh words for iran just that morning the president of the united states tweeted and called mr roll any iranian president a lovely man and then a few hours later. acted on the center stage of the u.s. also i have to say the numbers that the president throw out in particular with the numbers of employment those are wrong we did not lose that many jobs as he said that you're trying to be lost that want to make sure here in the united states and
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he gave some reason the in a way wrong if that's what it's about the global either. other furthermore peter introduced a new doctrine let's call it the trump doctrine that replacing the. doctrine of. doctrine treated somewhat mean can't you also talked about the author talked about yet really nice words for the north korean leader and i was kind of surprising so all of the g.p.a. of the political g.p.a. are if you will you went to a speech was. what the big get. it was not good for american leadership it certainly was not good. for the executive branch having this kind of a show on a center stage of the united. makes a really good point i think the mistakes a large crowd for one has about rallies and in his base here i come out one of the things i found rather peculiar to be in the extreme is that drum talked
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a great length about the importance of sovereignty then turns around and asked the whole world to destroy the sovereignty of a sovereign state the sovereign state of iran i mean it was intensely contradictory how can you talk about defending one country's the sovereignty when trying to destroy another's go ahead in london. has those definitely a speech full of contradictions but specifics i would regards to iran and sovereignity of other nations it makes no sense one could see that there is a path that the americans and the trouble laying out and they laid it out there against iran later on the repeated in the u.n. see council that he chaired it doesn't make any sense and if anything what he's doing is he's isolating even the closest american allies who you could see them cringing in their seats you could see people feeling very uncomfortable about the language trump was using because the european specially moving towards
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a different path towards iran and it's not looking good for the u.s. would regard. international organizations whether it be the u.n. nato the world bank all are now looking the other way because the u.s. is saying things which no one is happy with ok well i'm glad you brought that up about our allies here nikki haley was on the fox news channel trying to explain how the united states is dealing with. the iran and her take on and i think will be very different from what you gentlemen will think and our audience let's listen to what she had to say the european union has this so wrong and it's all because of their ego and their pride. and that's now graining who helped. get this deal together she's trying to hold a deal together because she did it but she's not looking out for the best interests of the european countries ok let's go back to new day i mean. so nikki haley
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is looking out for the best interest of europe i guess that's what she's trying to mean. ego and pride i think again those two words are misplaced on the wrong people in the wrong country is this show her how much the united states particularly of the trumpet administration in its in its foreign policy is out of step with the world i mean they're trying to develop a special purpose vehicle that will be include the european union russia and china this is all at the expense of the u.s. dollar that is really the key to american global dominance without the dollar it's a different game go ahead rosemary in new york. or peter it along turned out going to be decayed into long term that's. been actually really. going to be in place it's going to be replaced with an actual mechanism but let's talk about the short term first of all about that are either in the white house in particular trump ministration or period or. what the europeans are doing.
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the part it has not thus far now let's take a look at what the europeans are doing do europeans are following what the international community has committed to do the same international community the same u.n. security council that the united states voted to if you will enact. if you will the security council resolution resolution twenty two thirty one which again president . very much so overtly violated it back in may but let's go back to this financial making the same if we look at that in the short term the europeans are trying to help iran but in the long term what the united states has done through the mechanism of sanctions and punishment in frankly a unilateral manner it has. no way divert the attention of its forces allies since the second world war and yet the u.k. politically got trance and we're looking at germany to go together with as the
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americans will call it strange bedfellows such as russia and china to find a mechanism to in a way reduce the influence if you will this eight hundred pound gorilla so the bigger signal is iran to you and if you will the j.c. if you are becoming a preview for the world to do first the fight it way it's my national making them from washington and from play actually frankly new york at a national that's so perfectly put come out and you know one of the things again one of the ironies is that you know donald trump wants a new deal of some sort with iran and the iranians will come to him but at the same time he's demonizing a government that he says he's willing to sit down and talk to he's demonizing a government that he'd like to see overthrown i mean that is a galling contradiction go ahead in london. absolutely any talk of a new deal is unlikely to go down well even in the european capitals because
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however flawed the deal might be only open country supports it and it's. working we heard quite a few heads of states even yesterday say that iran is sticking to their side of the bargain there is no need to finish this deal and we see the u.s. is also putting pressure on countries like india japan and even turkey not to do business with iran but again if anything else it's backfiring because even turkey is moving extremely close to iran on loads of business deals and turkey is a good example where a nato member which is feeling more and more isolated within the nato and is now feeling closer to russia and iran with regards to the middle east but also business and would respect sort of dollar a lot of countries in there are deciding to trade in their local currencies china is trading in the yuan than most of south asia in east asia so it's a recurrent theme all over the world the more the u.s. pushes or rather more trump pushes against institutions and countries the more it
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seems to go against them you know we go back to new york with you i mean we're going to in the second part of program i want to talk about syria but i will come hourly mention it it is quite interesting and i'm glad you have a historical perspective here we had we have now a deal that turkey and russia made visa v. syria to deal with and we'll talk about the as three hundred but that deal was made with a member of nato in russia without the united states involved that is something new we haven't seen something like that before so you even within the alliance the united states is not being able to control all of its members go ahead in new york . right preterperfect well i think that you know that have taken place right now. or frankly anybody. they realize that international law or they are in that location so what the turks are worried about is they're worried about the refugee frankly what do you when germany is worried about is worried about the repeated. if
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you want war. we're going to have a problem at. the end of the day what we realize that through syria the jew itself that region has been changing that chapter is changing is moving away from this long seven year civil war into a period of hope for these people isolation and reconstruction in database what we're seeing come on corrupt what we're seeing in moscow and ron and frankly elsewhere they're saying we want to be part of that future dialogue and that's why we're seeing in a way that realignment our interests and cherokees leading the charge on dad rightly so ok gentlemen way to go to a short break and after that short break we'll continue our discussion on iran and the middle east stay with us.
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i've been saying the numbers mean something they matter the u.s. has over one trillion dollars in debt more than ten light colored prime tamping each day. eighty five percent of global wealth you long to the ultra rich eight point six percent market saw a thirty percent rise last year some with four hundred to five hundred three per second per second and fifth when rose to twenty thousand dollars. china's building two point one billion dollars a i industrial park but don't let the numbers overwhelm. the only number you need to remember is one one business shows you can afford to miss the one and only. you know world a big part of newton's law and conspiracy it's time to wake up to dig
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deeper to hit the stories that mainstream media refuses to tell more than ever we need to be smart. we need to stop slamming the door. and shouting past each other it's time for critical thinking it's time to fight for the middle for the truth the time is now we're watching closely watching the hawks. welcome back to cross talk more all things considered i'm peter lavelle to remind you we're discussing iran and the middle east. ok let me go back to come on in london here i guess i'll use an american phrase that i'm sure you understand it is there a new sheriff in the middle east because we have this issue after the fatal shooting down of a russian plane. and the russians put blame on the israelis for it.
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s. three hundred anti-missile system is being employed deployed there syria's wanted that for a long time and it was after this dreadful incident that they've now russia finally agreed how much is this change the game on the ground or in the air as it were go ahead in london. i mean it's a significant change and it just goes to show you the trajectory of the middle east over the last two years since russian intervention in syria russia is definitely the biggest diplomatic player not just in syria in the middle east as a whole to give you an example of buying russian defense systems qatar is are the saudis even the egyptians are but the s three hundred going back to syria means everything changes in the air because syria which had a very weak air defense system which kept getting attacked by israelis almost on a daily basis will now be able to stand up to these rallies effectively makes it
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extremely difficult for these released to attack syria because effectively that means you go in attack the russian air defenses and so this really is a made a colossal mistake in downing the aircraft which they say is an accident you know it arose when new york you are you have to think that the russians and the syrians are doing something white right when john bolton you know goes nucular about it because these are your ears or by a bad decision by his logic it is a destabilizing decision i. counter intuitive thing it is the most stabilizing thing that could happen to avoid having this war continuing and to spread i think it was a remarkable political military and diplomatic move go ahead in new york. right peter first of all i think what the russians did with the probably. three hundred and let me let me elaborate on that if you wish to go or nearly what we saw that the russian plane was shot down by the syrian forces because they thought it was
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israeli planes trying to go out there be running in target this is a complex if you were dealing with in syria what the russian decided to do is a purely a political and here's the reason why deploying three hundred russians or cheney quote ensure danger and friction between the iranian. the in the syrian geography purely what the russians are after the russians want to be escalate the situation their goal is not to put anyone on our currency more or defend the port and they decided the best way to do it this way which would need in this. new chapter the new chapter is if the israelis are to take any unilateral action against iranian in syria they will probably think twice or they probably will not do it or probably discuss it with the russians so that it's called deescalation making them all in all i think that what the russians are good at and. i don't think it or russians
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thinking or frankly russians satisfaction with when it comes to this issue from moscow made a strategic political decision by sending three hundred it was not a military decision and i think it was a long term wise decision and it was a long term game that the moscow played in syria you know come out come on you know you're a military expert do you think the israelis will test this missile system and that is being set up in in syria do you think that they're going to go that far are they going to probe what do you think i think we would be very careful and highly unlikely that they would go having said that the israelis always test the limits of all the norms of war and they had to go to the extremes the syrians have been trying to get the s. three hundred for almost ten years and one of the key reasons it didn't get it was israelis were able to convince moscow that don't give the syrians s. three hundred as i said even before the war because you know the s. three hundred was a game changer in the region so that's why i think it's significant for these
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release to still go after targets in syria and becomes extremely difficult for them to test it will actually be quite a task because they will be putting their pilots in grave danger. in new york do you think now because it was you know everybody has their red lines when it. syria and when the prior to the deal that the russian turkey made there was a lot of noise coming out of washington actually the british and the french and even the germans were even thing about parlaying in this here does this change this now because. if they're not going to be able to use airstrikes to support their groups and we can leave it leave it unspoken what their friends are in the middle of it around i mean do you think that this is a another move where they could actually consider stop supporting these groups here and actually find a conciliation point where these terrorists can be moved out where they go i don't
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know that's heir to one's biggest nightmare and but i'm skeptical of the deer or the deal with turkey. it has to get some legs for me to really believe in it. because turkey has a lot of culpability and a lot of responsibility to defuse the situation in because you know i've used the word sovereignty in this program many times as well syria is a sovereign country and it wants solver in control and once it has taken care of them the americans must leave syria because they're not they're not invited they're there you legally under international law go ahead in new york. true peter i think it is a strategic we put it equally and frankly. geographically doesn't last rebel held cation region in syria and it would mark the end of the civil war in syria however i do not believe at this point thirteen actors in the region as well as the be from
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washington would like to see that and to have the problem if you will complicate so what they try to do is to try to shy damascus moscow on a run to run from making an attack and we saw as a trump ironically banked iranians church sent the syrians and the russians for for their position and that the bottom line is this situation cannot be contained this way on the other hand we have a humanitarian catastrophe any type of conflict could make could probably need to add one to one point five million refugees moving north towards the turkish borders so all you know i think that what the challenge for lost though on caracal of damascus and iran will be to find a way to wage separate strong regional actors in the g.c.c. countries and as well as head of the from washington to find a way through congress some sort of a peace process with them and if that doesn't happen we will see some sort of
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office the factions and i think it is not the interest of the people but if you look at the time from a three thirty thousand feet peter the biggest and the most important thing is right now washington has of the and g.c.c. actors would like to drag this conflict using that is not to the best interests of syria and i think what that's what that is the point that moscow ron and others are advocating you know the kamali one of the interesting thing caviar is that russia is the only country that can talk to almost every single actor in this conflict here and you've seen it with ceasefire attempts where than with other parties didn't want to see a cease. wire with the s three hundred zero. serial literally how it has its own sovereignty within its grasp this is a send a signal to outsiders to stop supporting their proxies because adventure really ultimately it's a lost cause and i've mentioned before on this program the u.s.
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is there without a mission it's searching for a mission but if we have the regional players and i'm talking about. well and the israelis. you know they over the russians right now ok this is an interesting moment in interesting diplomatic opening that could possibly be pushed forward because if airstrikes from abroad are off the table now maybe they'll be cooler thinking what do you think. absolutely because if you look at the russian diplomatic maneuvers as you said they have been able to talk to every side in this conflict whether it's the israelis the turks very soon groups the syrian government of course and all the other arab league nations as well so the s. three hundred basically means a serenity of the syrian arab republic is restored and this is something the russians said they were here to do they want to support the state institutions of syria which is a legitimate recognized government in the united nations with more than half of the
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arab league also having their embassies in the mass that is and this is important because a lot of people in the u.n. and nato keep saying the syrian government is not a government it's a regime it's a government and even within the arab league more than half of the ambassadors are in damascus so that means syria's government is recognized as a state and the russians have helped them in the international level and diplomatic scene the chinese have also come in so the indians to brazilians a south african which completes the brics took troika to the s. three hundred i think is the final. sentence that say's the syrian vanity. back slowly but children their military is also rebuilding while by other countries and proxies for the think twice before attacking a country which sits in the un table if you. go back in new york as soon as show up on iran here we had. trump's personal lawyer giuliani rudy
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giuliani attending a.m.e. meeting in new york as well a group that wants to see the illegal overthrow of the government and around the united states is a really big supporter of that number single way. is this and with the sanctions and all of this i mean is do you think ultimately the trumpet ministration will attempt some kind of regime change within because they're nonstop talking about around i mean they haven't they have up iran on their brain one minute roseberry new york go ahead. short answer is i don't think so unfortunately everything that has come out of much of trump's mouth and his national security advisors and secretary of state has been hectic the latest example of that is the state department i mean up with the publication. it is nothing but if you will. think tank based ideology iranians are iran activities are bad but that is not
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a strategy so at this time however i do not see a strategy. if you will. what i do see is making you know not having a strategy could get us into very dangerous cross ground and also interest could lead to any unintended consequences that could be the i hope it doesn't happen that way but i just too many tactics no strategy and that is precisely the danger peter yeah good example of that is keeping american troops in syria is some kind of contingency plan waiting for a strategy to be had very very good point gentlemen we have run out of time many thanks and i guess in london and in new york and thanks to our viewers for watching us here to see you next time and remember crosstalk.
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