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after a fractious and emotionally charged committee hearing donald trump orders an f.b.i. investigation into claims of sexual assault against his supreme court nominee. of course you can read more about those stories on our website or to dot com i will be back with headlines in about an hour's time right now though here on our chief national it is going underground if you're watching in the u.k. . stay with. us. the degree of civilization in a society can be judged by entering its prisons so said dostoyevsky in the house of the dead i'm afshin rattansi and in this special edition of going underground we go inside one of britain's austerity hit prisons drug. the judge just how civilised

britain is in twenty eighteen coming up in the show we. want to. present stuff and mental health experts respond to our exclusive interview with an inmate inside what he alleges to be the revolving doors of the tory government's prison system a few months ago going underground was contacted by an inmate who is currently serving a recall for a life sentence in a prison in britain he has been in and out of prison for a number of crimes including violent ones he claims that despite voicing concerns to the authorities of rising levels of violence drug use and self harm he has been ignored he has since decided to risk speaking to the media the inmate has hidden his face so we cannot be identified and he speaks to us from a contraband mobile smuggled into prison here with this exclusive report is going

on the ground deputy editor sebastian packer you're currently before cell inside want to britain's prisons what you're experiencing right now. one of the reasons that michael activates and prison probation service resigned was allegedly cheated the reports of the high levels of drug use what do you actually seeing inside your prison. so what is actually causing the rise in violence.

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we. didn't. want. to touch upon. such. well that was an inmate on our guts are affecting prison officers now let's hear from a member of the national executive committee of the u.k. prison officers association joining me is dave cookies one of nearly ten thousand prison staff that reason they held a day of action over the u.k.'s allegedly dangerous prison conditions dave thanks

for coming on the shows that president spoke to resell claiming he's seeing more drugs and self of what your members telling you but we're saying exactly the same thing drugs and self violence in prisons have spiraled out of oprah potions over the last five to seven years since your storage because of come in but that shouldn't be a surprise to anybody if you if you slash the prison prison officers who maintain control and discipline in our prisons then it stands to reason that. crime in prison will royce the governor didn't say that resignation that happened in the first. week or so was relate. to your concerns but we surprise the tourism is government said michael spur the c.e.o. of emergencies prison service was resigned. i think that from a from a union point of view that heads should have rolled way before now we would have

expected some actions being taken well before now marco has presided over a crumbling and dangerous prison service for many years there's been no lot in that you know at the end of the tunnel in fairness to have to also recognize that treasury input or impact in the prison service has reduced resources available to him but as the head of the organization it's his role responsibility and duty to stand up and fight to maintain safety in prisons you see the increase in violence as a direct result of say taking one thousand prisoners out of the absolutely if you reduce the people actually keep control and discipline then if you're reduced to and get rid of them and we lost nine thousand experienced off these was stuff that had many years service that when they left so they took a lot of experience with them and then if you then try if you took away the place from the streets and if you take the place away from society then anneke will

prevail and unfortunately that is what happened within our prisons and again i mean would you mean that the younger less experienced prison officers the replacing the ones that are leaving are more susceptible to being used by prisoners the trouble is now is that we are they all replacing prison officers they are recruiting prison officers i have to give them that that jews they're not replacing enough they took seven thousand prison officers out there replacing it with two thousand five hundred maybe three thousand prison staff do the job of yours the still four thousand prison staff machine but to work in a prison is a unique place because you're dealing with people you dealing with damaged people you're dealing with criminals who have nothing but. in the moments you you're dating with people who have severe mental health issues where i have an aging prison a population now so we get into mencia and all that sort of stuff where are we pushing young men and women into these prisons without the resources and the skills

and knowledge to do the job that we're actually asking them to take on average four to five years before prisoners can be classed as an experienced reasonable prison officer what your local branch members and officers say that when the new recruit comes in because if it's twenty five reported incidents of violence today prison officers have been assaulted twenty five it is the current rate would you say to them the three hard to recruit at thing it is hard to recruit. wages were actually compared to the wages of morrison's. land the the you know prisons been for the tarn stood in parliament and announced that i thought it was disgraceful disgusting statement to have made. and to be actually honest why would somebody come and work in a prison where you face violence are the physical verbal psychological volume's every day that you're at work compared to work in place of a supermarket or something of that nature. where the wages are comparable they're

not going to come into prisons ok but how are they getting the drugs into prison the better it is in the huge rise in drugs getting in is a your members bringing them in we could all contest the fact is that its members ever he says it's prison officers i'm going prisons are stuff we have prison staff civilians we have contractors come in we have thirty agencies that work within our prisons so yeah every all of them are susceptible prisons are no different to any other public sector organization you have police who have done criminal things we have judges who carried out criminal acts we're no different to anybody oh so yes within within prisons we do have some staff who are susceptible to. huge amounts of money organized crime with in prison if you're going to be if you're a young man or young woman and a prisoner of issue i thousand pounds take a mobile phone into a prison you know you could see the impact that that would have on the individual

that the turmoil that that they would face at all and i should say we haven't paid anyone to take any move further we don't like an advertisement for being in custody where it can inmates make more money being inside than absolutely we have we have cases where prisoners are being released and deliberately coming back into prison carrying drugs and other arts and inside them through because of the money they'll get paid to actually bring them into the prison drugs inside a prison or a mobile phone and so on a prison is worth far more inside the prison than is out drugs rife mental issues. violence is in here your members are being schooled in how to rehabilitate offenders i think the fact is is that unfortunately the prison service is trying to be everything to everyone and do everything at once with a very small with you know with with a budget that doesn't actually fit with it. they took hundreds of millions of

pounds out of prison of the last five years. and when you took that money or why you took her ability to work with their offenders prison officers want the ability to shit with prisoners and do the work and work with the person and help him or her turn their life around if they don't have the time to do that and that will not happen we've had senior officials on the show before over the purse few years warning of a fatality future fatality luckily we haven't had one chances going up that you might see. violence of that we believe unfortunately we do believe that the death of a prison officer is an inevitability because we can't with. our employees asylum to protect us to put measures in place to protect us we came very close last year where one of my colleagues in the prison service had to face life saving surgery following an attack in in his prison he was knocked out and his head was

told he had to face life saving surgery to relieve the pressure in his brain so he could survive that was that was more luck than judgement that he actually survived we do not believe we actually believe that death is inevitable with two sometime in the future if our employers do not put the safety measures in place that we're demanding to have good thank you thank you after the break. with self harm levels reaching an average of one hundred twenty eight incidents a day in prisons across england and wales we speak to a mental health expert about what austerity cuts have done to the tens of thousands who are suffering all this and more coming up about to have going underground.

so what we've got to do is identify the threats that we have it's crazy on sunday shouldn't let it be an arms race and of his on off spearing dramatic development only personally i'm going to resist i don't see how that strategy will be successful very critical time time to sit down and talk. welcome back to our going underground prison special in the first half of the show we heard about. the rising levels of drug use and violence that cause stuff at ninety five percent of the prisons in the england and wales to take industrial action but out of austerity cuts to mental health services affected u.k. prisons arguably already at breaking point his deputy editor is about to back

a talking exclusively to an inmate in a british prison levels of self-knowledge being described by the spectre's as the worst they have ever seen how doing the cuts have affected prisons being able to help these people in. the bush sure. sure. and blueish arms. actually. from. your it's your duty. should. be looked. for.

to mislead. missions. were welcome or. from. commercial work to. you experience any mental health issue since even aside. from the last. food. and. all the washing. that you. would shoot. if you're in britain and have been affected by the issues just discussed in that interview please contact the samaritans of the number below internationally contact your local health services but that was perhaps just one of the tens of thousands of people affected by mental

health issues in britain's prisons i'm joined now by andy bell deputy chief executive of britain's center for mental health and thanks for coming on the show so why do you think this year's who are the largest levels of self home own record is will be a number of factors one of which is that i think self harm has always been common among the prison population because of the nature of imprisonment i think possibly people are now better recognising that. but i think we also know that as the prison population gets larger and prison officer numbers did reduce in recent years that does increase the risk that some people will will be unwell and not getting the one to one support they might need we are looking at people with mental health issues before sentencing it does sometimes happen i mean inevitably a large proportion of people that come into the criminal justice system will have preexisting difficulties with their mental health they may not be evidence of the

police or to the courts a little time because it's not always easy to identify but someone's got a difficulty lots of people have if you like mental health difficulties that are not immediately apparent that don't affect the way they behave and so it's not always possible to know who is suffering and who is having difficulties and some people's poor mental health may relate to things that happened earlier in life don't necessarily evident in their behavior at the time. but which by being locked up are opened up again and that's when you get people who become vulnerable even if it wasn't evident when they began their journey that that would be the case see two hundred twenty eight incident. of self oh maybe going in prisons today according to the average figure is how do you characterize mental health. period the appearance of degradation of mental health in prisons i think it's i think we have to

acknowledge first of all the imprisoning somebody who has any kind of phone or ability to pull mental health is likely to make sure it's always been the case i think it probably has always been there and i think partly we all see a greater awareness now of mental health issues and of course we have to see that as being progress and we do now have mental health services in every prison in england which again is really important because there is help there. it's often very overstretched and i think for many prison officers were quite rightly raised to they're also vulnerable that again being a prison officer means you're witnessing and sometimes part of quite traumatic events and that can certainly put them at risk as well and it's why one of the things we need to do as well as supporting prisoners mental health is to make sure the prison staff also get help for that is that right now when we see the prison

officers you know and walk out which never happened before because of what they see as a crisis can prisons create mental very difficult to say i think i think so many people have have poor mental health when they go it in a sense what it does is it brings back things or it brings things to the surface i mean there's no doubt that the experience of being in prison can be damaging to your mental health and it's always you go to prison officers well i didn't have them before they went into the local don't necessarily we do you know not really be able to have full mental health in adult life had some kind of difficulties during childhood but there's no doubt that some occupations of more. full of risky than others. and that will be the case for prison officers as much as it was before police officers or people in the armed forces. get all this data because the national audit office says they don't have any data on this really they're relying

on metrics they said thirty one thousand three hundred twenty eight which were prisoners reported mental health problems as a twenty seventeen as a charity how do you get your data which is to the support we just so i think it is based on where we've got dates so that is from national surveys and there was a national survey twenty years ago. which ninety nine zero percent of prisoners have some kind of mental health difficulty. and i do what you know is that that was one thousand nine hundred seventy. and it's unlikely that proportion has changed because the prison population is much the same as the twenty years it's a long time ago but i think if that data tells us that the majority of prison is vast majority of prisoners have some kind of mental health problem or ability that we have to assume that more or less the whole population does and we have to have a prison system which is based around an assumption that the vast majority of people will be at risk of poor mental health but you claimed that the vast majority

have at least one male mental health issue of the entire prison population there's a whole number of reasons for that which which may be to do with what happened before or maybe to do regret of what happened inside but that will be fairly standard i suspect across any country and i think we just have to acknowledge that imprisoning people. who particularly you know have preexisting vulnerabilities will increase the risk to them and we have to look at creating prison regimes and systems we respond to them and you well thank you thank you well we're so few of those leaving prison getting access to the mental health services they need and then to get probation system gotten privatized where. the government the tory government however real funding rates been affected nearly hoffa of all adults are reconvicted within a year of leaving prison do you think the government's privatization of part of her

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