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as dangerous weapons. we cannot allow a regime that chance death to america and that threatens israel with annihilation to possess the means to deliver a nuclear warhead to any city on earth. just can't do it while london and moscow oppose donald trump their own policy some taking to civil disobedience to revenge yet another war to follow nato interventions in yugoslavia iraq libya and syria i want to ask do you think. are they reading the iranian people have. made. for war with the run. out well joining me now via skype from washington d.c. is madame benjamin co-founder of the ngo code pink with a thanks for coming back on the show as a why demonstrate against this man brian ork from the state department or the policies of brian look he's the head of trump's iran action group. well i
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couldn't stand listening to the guy and what he was saying it was a deja vu of here we go again lies distortions manipulations to get the american public ready for some other in crazy military intervention so i felt they had to get up there and say something some people might not even know about this war that you seem to be accusing the president of starting what influence does that hudson institute because in the video you see this hudson institute zero is a go go canada one's trying to regulate v.o.a. read you for your radio liberty what is this small group ng where they announce things about us foreign policy well it's one of the many right wing neo cons think tanks that exist in washington d.c. the same ones that did the propaganda that iraq had weapons of mass destruction and was a great threat to the united states and got people ready for that intervention its
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role is now demonizing iran as the greatest threat to u.s. security and really just is a voice piece for. john bolton mike pompei oh and brian hook vision of the middle east but trump one places like michigan because some people believe the rust belt didn't want more wars why does trump appear to be hawkish suddenly. i think the majority of people in the united states don't want more war but trump has chosen iran as the man he did from the time he was campaigning saying that the iran nuclear deal was that we're still ever of course he's even closer than other administrations have been to both the israeli government and the saudi government and he prefers to listen to them over u.s. allies like germany france england and russia and china that also signed the run nuclear deal so he seems to need a demon he's made friends with north korea. it's quite ironic that the north korean
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government i'm glad he's doing the diplomacy with north korea but let's face it it's a much more authoritarian government than the iranian government is and yet he is putting all the blame on the run for the spread of terrorism around the world when we should really be looking at our ally saudi arabia well i want to get inside the rayburn a second but then what did you make of trump speech at the u.n. calling on the world to isolate iran. well he is pretending that the world community is actually happy with him withdrawing from the iran nuclear deal which is ridiculous he was followed by macro and who was very clear in saying we need engagement we need to plan this the we need dialogue and. macron is not the only one upset with the united states about this it's all of the other signatories to the deal and let's remember the deal with also approved by the entire european union and by the entire security council so the us is the outlier in this and i
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think the rest of the world except for a few places in the gulf and in israel are seeing the u.s. as going down a very very dangerous path trying to strangle the iranian economy making things miserable for ordinary people in iran and trying to get the people in iran to rise up on the one hand the administration says it doesn't want to it's not going for regime change and yet you have done all trumps lawyer rudy giuliani just this week talking to the the and meek a terrorist group saying that we will be overthrowing this government and we will be back in tehran so obviously the what the u.s. wants is to overthrow this regime but what would come after that is the question would it be pure chaos like we see in so many other countries in the middle east the m e k considered a terrorist movement by authorities here in london but trump says iran is destabilizing the sovereign rights of nations. i think there is so many there are
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so many countries in the middle east that are destabilizing each other and it has to be untangled and we need to get all foreign intervention out of the middle east when the us talks about iran meddling in them in the region i say you know iran is in the region it's the us that has been meddling but it would be good for iran to get out of any other interventions in countries beyond its borders just like it would be very good for the united states russia turkey israel all of the other countries that have been meddling and certainly saudi arabia and i think it is always quick bite ironic that when the temp administration talks about the spread of terrorism it doesn't like to look at its own allies who are responsible for so much of the terror in the region but of course you may be in effect demonstrating for the policies advocated by london and and moscow the companies involved
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in the sanctions they don't seem to be taking on board the european union london mosco one which is them to keep trading with iran so far total persia renato daimler and bus and france be a z m m's deutsche telekom they're all following trump q. london moscow or brussels well that's because the u.s. economy and the u.s. dollar are so strong the u.s. dollar is the currency for trade and when a company is faced with the secondary sanctions from the united states versus the much smaller amount of trade that it could do with iran what does it choose it chooses to stay on the good side of the united states so as you are saying despite the efforts of the governments in not only europe but in other places around the world the trump administration is unfortunately being very successful in putting
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the squeeze on these countries and telling them. that if they dare continue tap trade with with iran they will incur the wrath of the united states government so it has been very difficult for companies to continue any run and very difficult for the european governments to try to find a path forward that would keep the iran deal intact well arguably showing the power of america first i mean the the usa in terms of trump also praised reforms in saudi arabia which you mentioned earlier and blamed iran for the crisis in yemen. yes i mean i don't want to be defending the iranian government and it's up to the people in iran to determine what government they want but to have such hypocrisy on the part of the us when they praise very minor changes in saudi arabia and for example when women have been granted the right to drive at the same time that the saudi government throws the very women who have
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fought for that right to drive in prison at the same time that there is a woman facing be heading in saudi arabia because of the and nonviolent activism she's been doing up bihar on behalf of the oppressed shia community at the same time that saudi arabia is involved in this horrendous bombing campaign in yemen that recently killed a bus load of children and has continued to be targeting civilians and marketplaces and infrastructure and caused this tremendous catastrophe in yemen so it is the height of hypocrisy for the united states to talk about reforms in saudi arabia instead of talking about saudi arabia being the only one of the only monarchist absolute monarchy is in the world today that continues to repress its own people in a terrible fashion you know that bus bomb apparently was a lucky bluff in bomb that killed all those school children to raise them a of course also supports home sales to saudi to bomb which
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a bombing yemen but britain says when it sells arms to saudi arabia that are using used written carefully reviews sales continually what do you make of. well if you're reviewed i'm sales continually and wouldn't be selling arms to saudi arabia even in the united states there are laws about selling arms to countries that are engaged in war crimes but those are obviously violated constantly as the u.s. sales are gives weapons in the case of giving them to israel or to egypt but the sales of saudi arabia are the number one sales not only from the united states but most of the western democracies so here you have the west saying that it stands for freedoms and human rights and human dignity and equality for women and it sells the majority of its weapons to the country that violates all of these principles so it's really about money and it's about the power of the weapons manufacturers located features in your new report war profiteers tell me the bit about the
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revolving door because you talk about a revolving door between government and arms companies even ahead of the twentieth three iraq war. well yes when i report we outline how the major five weapons manufacturers lockheed martin northrop grumman boeing general dynamics and raytheon get such a huge share of the pentagon budget and how the they use that money to pay lobbyists that go in and a lobby for continuing the increase in the pentagon budget but also in favor of endless war because that's important for their marketing whenever there is a chance at diplomacy like in north korea you see their stocks going down lockheed martin is the largest manufacturer of weapons in the world and its wants to maintain the threat of war if not actual war all over because that's what it
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does is and it really was that this very briefly made that do you think that trumpet ministration is going to blending a war on iran like the one john bolton forced or before he was appointed national security adviser i don't think they want to send troops to iran but i do think that they do that they are laying the groundwork for u.s. bombing of nuclear research facilities in iran or some kind of attacks on iran in other countries around the region bolton is certainly been a hawk from many years calling for the bombing of iran he's written it in op ed pieces in the new york times so it's no secret and now he has the ear of the president would have been different thank you thank you for having me on it after the break donald trump continues to call on special counsel robert mueller what role did the former f.b.i. boss have investigated nine eleven and the film festival championing voices ignored by the mainstream all this about going about doing going underground.
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a good decision. this is. the church secret indeed catholic priests accused of sexually abusing children can get away with it quite literally i like to call this the geographic solution so what the bishop needs to do then he finds out that the priest is is a perpetrator is simply moves him to a different spot were the previous standards not the highest ranks of the catholic church help conceal the accused priests from the police and justice system to that it has not asked the i intend. to use this data and.
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join me every first day on the alex salmond show and i'll be speaking to guest of the world of politics or business i'm show business i'll see you there. welcome back the current threat level for international terrorism in britain is severe but how are you can us intelligence that he started that whole thing but once it was definitively proven and public and the documents were available to see the n.s.a. is listening to all of us collecting all the metadata they try to justify by saying well had we been doing this before nine eleven we could have stopped and that's a huge law and we go into that we explore that the book the fact is when khalid almihdhar and nawaf alhazmi came to the united states they then moved down to san diego where they had a phone that was in the la paz mizo name and multiple times they called yemen
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a house in sana'a yemen that was an al qaeda switchboard you couldn't call directly to afghanistan so in order to get information to afghanistan out they used this house and yemen and it was a house owned by khalid almihdhar spotter in law who happened to be a top lieutenant of bin laden's who is his good friend from their mujahedeen days and so the n.s.a. and the cia were monitoring this house it's how they found out about the malaysia planning summit was listening to the calls in this house so just when this period happens where this call is not going out but coming from the united states from san diego to this house that should've been a hot fire emergency because they were although they were on the watch list anyway this described to me and you describe it in the book what it felt like for you and your co-author when kluck said there was a high level decision in the cia not to share information with the white house it
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was actually very stark moment as a kid we thought we were going to have to sort of slow roll and kind of admitting this guy was here this guy heard this thing that kind of build the case but clarke was very ready to lay all its cards on the table and so yes he tells us that that in order to call him you know himself richard clarke out of this loop would. required high level decision at the cia do you think don't do you think trump should revoke george tenet security clearance like he did with some other people because tenet was one of the people saying that trump shouldn't be revoking security clearances i'm not going to say yes or no right or wrong you know what happened there were i mean i definitely could tell you that george tenet perjured himself when he went for the nine eleven commission under oath and that you know i'm not trying to say he's this evil lizard man but i'm sure and a certain level the things he did he meant well or possibly had what he considered benevolent motivations but in the end when it fell apart they time and the cia went
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into this for protection it's not where they protected all of their people anyone involved in wrongdoing that protected when the cia inspector general recommended official reprimands for multiple people in the agency including the director and then a lot of the staff at alec station you know the see a continued future directors continue to protect all of these people the same no there should be investigations don't you know we should dumb down these calls for a reprimand so there's a whole it's a whole unit that works to circle its wagons and protect itself despite the lies that they may have told the public the crimes they may have committed you know when they were trying to achieve their goals you know john duffey thank you well from cia conspiracies to cia cinema the twenty six rained on film festival is opened in london defined by a rejection of interference will do common in the film industry influenced by corporations and intelligence services alike it's hosted the u.k. prime me as a film such as the blair witch project dead man's shoes an old boy in his helped
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launch the koreas of sacha baron cohen the colombian christopher nolan going underground went down to the view cinema in london's piccadilly to speak to the festival's founder and the grove and he had before going to the significance of this he has rained on threats well i understand the one of the films already being censored by the local council here in western. sad but true we got a call this morning saying that we can only show this film is from holland is played in rotterdam berlin lot of the big festivals it's one of the few not world premieres that rain dance but we have to buller two scenes in the twenty first century in central london with all that stuff happening up the road. how has reigned and changed in over twenty five years this is the twenty you know well now we're all in digital we don't have film anymore and of course on. february fifteenth two thousand and five there was a dramatic moment that's the day the three co-founders of you tube registered the
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euro and took them another nine months to get it up and then you tube went to e-bay in a part of the google family and with that has changed everyone's viewing patterns and a lot of people think that coming to a cinema like this to watch a movie is that you know everyone's going to be at home watching on the phone but actually people come to the cinema because it's a short social experience i mean you can go to the local supermarket buy food in these at home but you still go to restaurants right but it poses challenges for your jury when selecting films presumably because there are just so many of my god we have thirteen and a half thousand submissions this year from one hundred nine hundred countries documentaries shorts features web series music videos and virtual reality now that's the big challenge raindance because rain dependent we don't have any government logos here sadly not without trying them either we've were far too contemporary to get public funding we've been i've been turned down
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thirty six times over the years what it means is we don't fall to the censorship and the your brand values of government organizations which show what we want these films as you know as we pointed out earlier social impact the they're not heavy and dark there's comedies there's there's horror. there's all kinds of films but we tend to show the films that highlight. issues you know i think it's interesting to hear what other voices are and other countries in other cultures and where if there's someone on the street who suffers from hatred i think that comes from basic misunderstanding how far people live and work and play in other parts of the world and that's what i think one of the great reasons we do raindance is to show these films because cinema is the most powerful way to transport you to another place and show you how other people live and work and maybe take down some of this hatred that is just fueling the world freight look at the news it's terrifying what's
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happening right now. the pulitzer prize winner was all or should is the journalist that expose the my lai massacre you have a film the whistleblower of my own about hugh thompson we're going to field what use that word but that was very interesting i'm old enough to remember the my lai massacre and how that came out i was very curious to be told this film is being screened so it's like a parallel to stories one is how he happened to be in a helicopter and see this terrible atrocity being taken by his own countryman and then how we reported now his life was destroyed. and the second is the very very wonderful trunk string quartet created an opera which is the performances cut with the news footage so you come away with his artistic piece of music cut with his harrowing news footage and at the end it's up to you to decide whether or not you think there was a blow or it was right to blow the whistle or not and then again another thing that
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really annoys me is that over the years of raindance a lot of people are going to come as an important film on tired tonight and we fight with apathy the same when your show people know this is a great show well they watch it on. kind of make a cup of tea or whatever you know it's apathy i think it's artists you have a responsibility to tell stories that are meaningful that do not exploit sex and violence simply for that sake which many of these so-called commercially successful films do i think you also have a responsibility as an individual a member of our democracy to listen to as many voices as you can and then to speak your mind especially the election time ken loach got your a tour award was a first go to are in turns twenty sixteen so that they get a vindication because given your respect of his internationally this year it's terry gilliam by the way he's still being he said he could not accept the out for
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award he said i'm a collaborator i work in any pointed to jonathan price who was there the other night and saying it was jonathan that came up with all the great ideas in brazil and he said i true that i filter out the best ideas and put them together so i'm going to call it the filter award not the oh ter last time you spoke to us about meet the parents i'm going to early because of it we've heard of this program when it became closer to its big box office success of a three hundred eighty five million dollars i think around the world they changed it to include the cia's intervention in the thing robert de niro shouldn't do certain things and i mean once the film screens here it rained drugs. if he gets picked up what's to say this is the most telling perceptive bit in the film isn't chopped out as being uncommercial we see all hollywood films i'm going to answer this obliquely all hollywood films have american propaganda so one thumb on the
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weeds when they pull up to their clear front at the end you get a big pass and pharmacists always wow look at that it's beautiful and thelma says it must be the grand canyon. and that's the propaganda postcard shot so this studios have this uneasy relationship with the powers if they do enough propaganda shots then they can say stuff that you are nine might think is kind of risky but all hollywood films have propaganda so when meet the parents gets edited out and they slip in a little bit cia or whatever whatever is to keep the powers happy so they can continue making films almost like they want to do without facing the kind of censorship that you would have for example today in china and that's why our china day so important we've got thirty five filmmakers coming from china to discuss their work how you as a filmmaker in europe or should i say britain can write
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a script that would pass sense of getting them censored here in the festival at the grove thank you if you are in london or want to go to the raindance film festival runs of the view because millions will go to the seventh we're back on wednesday for a going underground special with award winning journalist filmmaker john pilger till then keep in touch with fischer media see on wednesday twenty nine years to the day of the cia backed panamanian coup the failure of which would lead to us here in beijing two months ago. started financial for a long shot today with all the money laundering first to visit this cash into three different. oh good this is a good start well we have our three banks all set up here maybe something in europe something in america or something overseas in the cayman islands and it will all these banks are complicit in the tough talk or serious stuff to do much call it something to do some serious money laundering ok let's see how we did while we've
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got home got a nice luxury watch for max and for stacy oh beautiful jewelry and how about. luxury on a bill again for max you know what money laundering is highly illegal don't be a good watch guys report. that a condition would have played a crucial role in this if not the life of the innocent civilians and by all means we can be no possible i think even you know it all and you know. committing crime was the same is the national wrong it's the same a lot of it's excuse as to the human and again also our principles and values.
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and. in the. headlines from moscow at six pm today as washington could be open to talks with taliban militants in afghanistan trucks down the commander of the group who rejects the possibility of any negotiation i've got one of the leadership of the taliban doesn't want to negotiate with the americans and has never wanted this and the leadership of the taliban never gave permission to any member to negotiate on their behalf. and also says it's launched missiles against militants in syria it believes were responsible for last month's deadly terror attack on
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