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on the watch the hawks i am tyrone in times have the allison joining us from new york to discuss net neutrality anthrax and morris conservative commentator steve malzberg welcome see hi guys pleasure to be here is always steve. i got to throw this out to steve and i got to not taking anything away from the fight of for net neutrality it's been a long time fight but why is our government wasting time suing california when they have yet to revalue with their biological security procedures. which clearly failed back to two thousand and fifteen when the government sent i think over five hundred over the course of a decade five hundred spam bills of live anthrax priorities you know well. yeah i mean good as soon as they get what i mean i think we know that priority is ultimately shift about every six months on capitol hill in the pentagon about what should we be spending money on what's when it comes to safety it doesn't always
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actually meanwhile like this is incredibly unsafe and could make a lot of people sick i think it's a priority is issue that just isn't as big of a priority because nothing but no really bad thing which is not on the let steve because well i don't think it's an either or i with. the anthrax to a great extent certainly you know we all want safety and i'll get to that in a second but they have to go after california because you can't allow a state to try to regulate interstate commerce that's against the law the f.c.c. the congress specifically gave the f.c.c. jurisdiction over the internet they didn't give california or the governor of a state jurisdiction over the internet so when it comes to following the law this is this is something that the justice department has to do and you know the. net neutrality that was thrust upon us in. two thousand and fifteen the internet
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from its inception guys was going along great and look what it built itself into with very soft regulation clinton and congress decided at the time they're going to take a hands off approach let it grow and it was and now what this. neutrality was and what they got rid of in california is that putting back in all rules that when the two affect to affect ma bell back in the thirty's we don't need that kind of restriction or regulation i will agree with you that the regulation is based on very old standards and they're trying to take something like the internet and online services and turn and apply old pre modern tech world rules to it and quite frankly it doesn't help business and it doesn't help that's where the sort of net neutrality is a basic idea that kind of got overtaken by a lot of corporations because then it became like a rallying cry and i don't know if either one of those is the answer i don't think
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you know like net neutrality is going to fix everything i have are i think there's need to be a rules but steve you know the states are arguing that the f.c.c. can't have it both ways on the one hand the commission claims it lacks authority to regulate net neutrality on companies like comcast and because as you said but claims it does have the authority to preempt state regulations doing that on these companies so let me ask you steve are most card carrying republican supposed to be all about states' rights and less government intrusion is not exactly what's happening here with just lessons in the california well it's very interesting that you bring up these two issues because first of all as i said if you go to talk to former republican point of view you know law and order and you can't have rogue states superseding their authority against the federal government but having having said that. republicans all are getting rid of net neutrality is for freedom and business you know we've seen less in the last three. years have been studies done
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since net neutrality was instituted there was less investment in high speed internet access and broadband than ever before it's been restrictive and what they what getting loose is what this is really does that there's a it's going to go out of steve at the end of the day but realistically i think we can see good point still sergeant sure you're. no go absolutely well moving on foreign nationals who come to work at the united nations the world bank and the international monetary fund are allowed to bring their same sex partners to the u.s. with them on a special work visa as long as their home nations recognize the domestic partnership this shall live a state department sent out a diplomatic note stating that as a matter of principle and reciprocity and countries where same sex marriage is not legally available and the sending status on the able to accept the accreditation of the same sex thousands of members of the u.s. diplomatic and consular posts abroad the same sex domestic partner would not be
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eligible meaning they plan to cease allowing same sex partners of diplomats to get visas to the us alas their home countries recognize a legal marriage between the two this week the state department officially announced that effective immediately u.s. embassies and consulates will adjudicate reason applications that are based on a same sex marriage in the same way we adjudicate applications for opposite gender spouses at this time by the way opposite sex couples must be legally married in order to be recognized as an immediate family under their new changes require that of same sex couples however if we go back to the two thousand and nine changes made by then secretary of state hillary clinton we see that it to require that quote the sending state is requested to submit appropriate documentation that it recognizes the domestic partner relationship which could include evidence that the sending state provided the domestic partner with a diplomatic or an official passport so just like then if you are a diplomat coming to work in the united states and you have a. same sex partner of that partner must be recognized by the whole country and if
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that country does not accept a massive partnerships of us neither will the us in return alfonso nam the president the us q i employees advocacy group told business insider that quote this could be read as the state department taking a step to advocate for their own l g b t employees however since neither sanctions nor all out war has ever moved a foreign nation to change its marriage laws to be in line with american democracy it seems an odd choice to punish foreign nationals because their native country does not align with ours on gay marriage this is a vast little story that we've been led chewing over all day here and i want to start. your kind of reciprocity is defined as you know the exchanging of things with others for mutual benefit specifically privileges granted by one country to another i want to ask you both how does this rule which doesn't change the most important clause you don't require home country recognition of the union help make
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things more equal or fair for us diplomats going abroad or would use to. well i think this is all about fairness in two thousand and fifteen this country recognize gay marriage you can't be a diplomat from a foreign country and come over here as a heterosexual with your you know your partner. so why should you be able just because you're homosexual to be able to come here with your partner if you're if you're not willing to marry that partner here and again there is a caveat there is an exception as you correctly alluded to that if the country from where the diplomat is coming from puts states in writing that there are you know homosexuality is not recognized or is against the law or punishable by some kind of penalty in their home country they'll make an exemption provided that the home country treats you know the u.s. diplomat the same way they're looking for their diplomats to be treated here. to me
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it's a quality our focus should be not on the united states doing this which is which only affects from what i understand about ten people but we should be focusing on these countries many many countries where homosexuality is punishable by death even not on this rule that the us is changing and by the way when hillary in zero nine instituted this rule that allowed the diplomats to come over with their significant other. only homosex only only gay partnerships not heterosexuals they were included so it was discriminatory from the beginning and that's actually an interesting point that i wanted to make because i didn't think this you know a lot was said about hillary clinton when she suffered secretary of state bringing those kinds of domestic partnerships to the state department which is great that employees before ogre fell actually went through that she was giving that but again in this situation it still goes the onus it's not making anybody change but what it doesn't require something else in reality so as you said u.s.
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diplomats have to be legally married in order to go overseas to post with their partners so this policy now just mirrors what u.s. policy is you can't even if you have to be legally married in the united states and the answer to this was that the state department confirmed that foreign diplomats in the united states can get married in the united states all these people are worried can literally go to city hall in new york and get married and it will be it will be granted in most countries grant reciprocity to us same sex domestic couple in fact the u.k. is actually an interview bring that up the u.k. is passing a law and passing it so that opposite sex couples can also get domestic partnerships so let me ask you this is where i have a big thing why are we making state sponsored marriage and state sponsored you know marriage is the key to a messy of our relationships and that i mean this is a private contract between two people isn't this are showing how much we need to get the government out of our lives. well no i again i just think it's being
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fair because if it why should diplomats be able to come to this country with you know if they're if they're homosexuals or lesbian with their part with their partner but someone who's heterosexual can come to this country with their partner who would also get the visa why the visas only go to a special class of people here and to me that special class of people is people who get married yeah you don't get married you can't bring anybody you can't make them regular people can't get married here because then they go home and it's against the law and i'm i'm sympathetic to them they might be killed in prison get fired who knows what so that's where our focus should be why do these countries have those repressive policies yeah that is it is a passing out and that's where the focus should be but i do real think at the end of the day that i kind of lean more towards domestic partnerships over marriage because then that can cover everybody not just folks who want to say the states were married or things like that steve malzberg always a pleasure to have you on thank you so much work i would respond thank you both
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thank you i was going to bring court watchers don't forget to let us know what you think of the topics you program facebook and twitter see our poll shows that r t v dot com coming up author and educator dee watkins joins us to discuss the latest controversy surrounding kanye west of the thirteenth amendment as well as nike and collins because the latest twists and turns there all this and more so stay tuned to watch you. don't accept the salute. to the.
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it was quite the busy weekend for pop culture and politics rock watchers highlighted by a controversy felt saturday night live as former harvey weinstein golden boy matt damon cracked jokes about the drug. grabby a salty history of recent testimony of supreme court justice nominee brett kavanaugh but it was a lock a hat wearing kanye west or a as he is now known who took the controversy crown this weekend who after his s n l performance tweeted this represents good and america becoming whole again we will no longer outsource other countries we build factories here in america and create
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jobs we will provide jobs for all who are free from prisons as we abolish the thirteenth amendment message sent with love. a polish the third team amendment for those not familiar with that particular amendment that would be the one that abolished slavery that reads neither slavery nor involuntary servitude except as a punishment for a crime where of the party shall be then duly convicted shall exist within the united states already placed subject to their jurisdiction kanye mediately followed up by declaring that he was tweeting specifically about abolishing slavery as a form of punishment section of the thirteenth amendment which many say justifies our current incarceration system and that he was not referencing that section that abolished slavery in general i'm here to help us sort through the xcuse says justifications of our heads that are bones when politics and pop culture come this other educator welcome to you know you always a pleasure thank you guys for having me boy oh boy so back in the news again.
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you know stirred up controversy for the trump support of the tweets of the thirteenth amendment i'm going to put it to the table. is this just more publicity stunts that kanye uses to like raise himself up and raise up his profile or is kanye really believing in what he's tweeting and really believing it more so. i do think it's a publicity stunt but at this point in the game what's going on what our country right now it doesn't matter if it's for put this to be or not because kanye west is a god it could have the power to pump ideas into society their show comes on around the clock it's a they're a billion dollar machine of influence information and we got to realize you know look at the country that we live in this is america where a textbook company puts slaves were actually margaret workers and interns so you know you have a guy who was influential in hip hop promoting and pushing the same ideas trying to
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make people think that you could just abolish the thirteenth amendment and then a few months ago and he said that slavery was a choice there. like you trying to rewrite the american story from the perspective of the old press the make all press is look like great people would never be able to move these situations will never be given even properly attacked president does the president just do a complex if you want to. still exist right now to this day where we can all agree that the thirteen men men thirteenth amendment slavery where it states that it's legal for citizens convicted of a crime is like needs to be changed i think we can all of that staple agree that that part of that amendment absolutely needs to be changed and given the impact of the devastation the us prison system must have on black america should there be bigger consequences for kanye is lack of clarity not just this usual round of like well who say it's a mistake which to be honest i care a lot of a lot of hoops he was young he was it was saturday night live. why do we excuse
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this kind of stuff why don't we make people own their words you know the beauty of social media is you can use it to unite smart people get together into a fight against injustices and things like that you can take people from one side of the world and help them find their long lost family members on the other side of the world what makes social media toxic is a celebrity like himself who doesn't know what he's talking about all have a platform to be able to spread these false ideas that's where the problem comes in and it's no way to regulate i would judge that because if we try to stop them then it's not freedom of speech you know but if we attack a mistake everything you say sounds stupid which it is then we look like me people earlier today he just said you know bron james should be in cleveland so he should build it so he can build a factory to put people to work and i'm saying like you said someone le bron james as many businesses are here employees or people all over the world as a being as a school that is going to work to not only build families in the community of akron
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when he comes from but to put them on a path to be successful. getting a proper education but then the final my final point is you can live in l.a. and have a factory in cleveland like people do all of the time of those easy is that you sell all of it and that they are not made in america they are not. going to be anybody in a downtown l.a. and. that is not it is positive thing a lot of they do that why are you crying about this when you're the guy if that makes these easier make them affordable there are still many i'm going to let you have the platform you can reach millions of people you just say anything so you know it's the job of the journalist and the job of the mentor and a job of the teacher is it's up to us to you know we have to say no you know kids turn to ash is off don't listen to call using music is not good anymore and you know that is the only thing worse than his music or e-mails ideas so you know we have to sound is this is this dusty at this point. yes that's kind of you know
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speaking of that speaking of justifications and excuses i want to. we've now had to sit there two weeks and i'm sure we're all like exhausted. kavanaugh you know testimonies and all of this kind of mess they might vote for him at the end of the week but what i want to ask you do what jumps out to you is kind of the last hypocrisy in all of this the thing that no one's really talking about but it's like right you're out of all our faces so you know when i think it's to me a race kid twelve years old. the way the officer described him as this dangerous grown man took his life i think of mike brown a teenager a kid he didn't even get a chance to you know experience manhood he got described as this monster i think of trayvon martin how would george zimmerman who was obviously wrong you know you know didn't listen to the police officers when he told them to not pursue was
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able to paint this guy as this monster and they tried to you know find images. on the internet try to distort them to make it look like this to me personally then you get the people like. you know he's a kid he made a mistake so what he people you know some articles that even list them as a rapist economist women attacker but they say he's a boy you don't want to ruin his life and you can see his god kevin know who's fighting to be able to score who's been caught most are you guys no better to me was this guy seems like he was every time he and hails you know we miss him and what we know we can do you know we can't judge his girl for something he did he's a kid is not a kid like what he did you know suppose we had that high school but the fact is that he did it. a a lot of other things on top of that but this you go he just to be a boy he has to be a boy that made a mistake that's all that's going to the idea if you go to a good school if you come from a good family and feel like this is classism and its greatest and you see it
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everywhere there's this idea that he came from a good school he did all the right things he came from the right background that we shouldn't take that away from him while you have someone you know from the white house or something saying that dr ford should be responsible for her actions when she was fifteen. and this is that's where i'm like i find that we just don't have a clear understanding in our culture of like what an adult is and if you are black young man you are treated like an adult no matter what but if you're not and that brings me to the cap or next thing and then nike because i feel like there's a lot of hypocrisy on that side of saying like what who gets to be who is the victim and who should be let off but nike recently it was revealed while they put out and did such a great thing of making you know just. the. political donations and all of that but they found out the majority of its political donations to to politicians in
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groups are mainly going to republicans are mainly going to groups that don't agree with what cabernet dead or again don't believe in that. so you know. how does the making of income that you like how do you come back from that how does this how do we separate the politics of business and the politics of politics let me use that so i do think it's important for us to acknowledge that that those donations. as a company employees or people who identified as working from the show. so we have. a million dollar check to the republican governor and he also gives a percentage of donation to the democrat in income the year before but what i will say i will i will say this. if nike wants to continue to move in the right direction we have to sit back and see how they respond to this you want to respond to this you know what so many ideas you can't just one is so sure where again this
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social justice bandwagon and you know trying to play both sides in a film you know well for we've got a plan to fifty you can't play a fifty because if one side is happily advocating for children to be separated from their families if one side is happily advocating for building a super team a sexual tsotsis for the supreme court if one side is advocating for me is the end of xena phobic and raises the you can say oh we want to support these people who want to make america a better place and real life and then try to play the other side too so if they want to continue in the right direction i think that it was a great step and as we see financially it made money so if they want to continue to you know be in control of that you know corporate responsibility we need to see how they respond because one thing we do know i've been a black whole life and everybody around me has been when i really know it's. going to be let's also forget the remember that citizens united in the supreme court told
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us that money in the states equals free speech and so they can give money to anybody if they so choose and in that set up in that dynamic you can't criticize. body for what they give their body to what and what job they do because this guy i mean that's that's the argument right everybody is free speech you know that's the whole mess of citizens united but i got to be thank you so much for coming on and always a pleasure thank you for talk to. men can live with them can live without them or can we according to a study published in b. of c. biology the very first all female termite colony was discovered in southern japan researchers couldn't find a single male in the forty two hundred termite quality is even after accounting for a year and a half but all female colony is how been documented in some ant and honeybees species both male and female terminates were thought to be necessary for a colony to survive the wrong sexual termites found seem to have
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a bald millions of years ago with an x. for chromosome allowing them to reproduce without a male term and now science is telling us that males are not essential for the maintenance of some animal societies where they were once thought to be completely necessary but don't worry so ok guys it took the termites a few million years to learn to live without male so he human men have a little more exams to evolve before we dismiss them entirely so it's ok. while i love the fact that it took a wider year and a half to keep up with one who got that terrible john q three to get one that's got to be one of the worst jobs in the royal we need to decode all the terms i could speak on all the females on the rails with us from. the. heard that is ours over to be remembered what it was world about told you about so i tell you all i love you i am tired rolled with and i'm top of the these are watching those hawks
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