hello and welcome to cross talk where all things considered i'm peter lavelle washington's ambassador to nato threatens to take out russian missiles and the u.s. interior secretary threatens a naval blockade of russia is the trump doctrine finally being revealed. cross talking some real news i'm joined by my guest here in moscow mark sloboda he's an international affairs and security analyst we also have dimitri bobbitt he's a political analyst with international and we have these and he is a professor at the higher school of economics originally cross secretary. charge of the national parks ok. he's got a lot more of his plate here apparently the united states has the ability with our navy to make sure the sea lanes are open and if necessary to blockade to make sure that their energy energy rushes energy does not go to market. a blockade is

a war under international law so this is twice in one week that states have threatened russia with war which is quite strong but it also shows that. this is how well great power is often. the way it will behave a little behave. how they're able to exert force because the united states ever since world war two has been able to control most of the most maritime corridor or so from me there and here i am i kind of. malacca straits are the personal goal so obviously during peacetime this is a way of. you know having commercial benefit or moving troops easily or you know a good way of getting allies but during times of crisis or decline this is when you essentially cut off. from trade routes and try to starve their economies to death and that's what we refer to the most choke points and it's quite extraordinary they would. threatened this is against russia. i think it's also really in my

introduction i said because the trump doctrine being really revealed because we have in one week we have threatening military force against a nuclear power russia both countries are in the negotiations over these weapons here they both sides accuse the other of violations and then we have basically. this is just an extension of trumps trade war but if you combine that this kind of comes together with a great powers vision of the world mark you were in the navy so i'll go the point out that even the threat of an attack of an aggression against russia is technically an act of aggression and a violation of international by the united states what if by the united nations charter now as as a former u.s. navy man i have to say that i think what the very knowledgeable about such matters secretary of the interior here and i'm being a little facetious has revealed the dangerous new capability of the u.s.

navy they have evidently equipped their ships with the transforming the land shark attack so that u.s. navy ships can now go off the sea into the land to blockade russia's energy supplies which the vast majority of our pipelines ships energy the vast majority mean it does do some l.n.g. it does some oil by tanker but the vast majority of russia's energy to market europe. via pipelines so that is the only way i can interpret his remark you know but the interesting. thing is that it this is it and it's not just russia we're looking at china and of course we have the rand saying sions looming here which we hopefully will be able to talk about here this is the u.s. determining how countries trade who they can trade with and essentially what kind of relationships they have with other countries by their united nations. this is

very important not only china and russia getting sick of it you know during president putin's we visit to india this week the indians let it be understood very clearly that if sanctions were not improved over not approved by the security culture which it needs to be which which are which they are not we're not going to play them by not going to you know they mean nothing to us and that was the message from india which has been basically kind of an ally of the united states during the last because of years during the last three or four years so people are getting ready sick of trauma doctrine if we call we can call it that you know tromp during his presence in the united nations building he said first i want to talk to them when you serve and president get there just a few days ago he basically threatened to mention right so this is this is going to do you know it's really i'm glad you brought that we i want to talk to the british whaling embassador well i said they want to meet their ratings will come to me they

will come to me to make a deal while the same time they're trying they're doing everything they can in their power to overthrow that existing regime when. the bolton said openly during his meeting with the iranian a position that we want to undermine the uranium go and we don't want it to leave to the fortieth anniversary of i don't want after the luxury of meeting the mujahedeen exactly exactly the only into only to head to the den of the international terrorists and sort of who is in charge of national box made this remark about russian energy and bought the book keep talking about franken in the united states defending that strategy which is i environmentally very questionable and i think that it points out confusing i guess i'll domestic politics is influencing the foreign policy but i would point out that this for to go after so many countries at the same time it undermines the strategy because again the main strategy or the main country to isolate for america. that would ideally be china i

would assume given that they're the men really have other things. their fish to fry this week the european union and they would establish a common i can epsom with in cooperation with china and russia to try to bypass both the us dollar and transaction system in and of course the indians might want to sue in their currency as well there because obviously they're starting to feel a bit uneasy as well so i think. that is a problem by trying to isolate everyone at the same time when they could be isolating themselves and getting all their key privilege which is that it leaves the if you look at american hegemony in the world it's not just the military it's the financial system and people are starting to move away from it and they're developing the value of the dollar first i'd like to say that i think that you are understating because the u.s. when you're talking about fracking because the us mainstream media has clearly reported in the last few weeks that the only reason there is any opposition to the

pollution and you know and protest against fracking in the united states is because of russian trolls going to all of this wired i mean the people in pennsylvania and across the u.s. who have downed bertie brown dirty water that you can literally set on fire and earthquakes big. high draw it cracked so i got you a little. more you are good because it was always there but anyway. yeah. i think the belligerent rhetoric when we're talking ryan bailey hutchison nikki haley trump promising fire and fury we're looking at it a truly ignorant and incompetent administration blundering blustering belligerently its way through a foreign policy into destroying the reputation of the united states go team well the thing is that. the u.s. wants to isolate certain countries. but ultimately it's i said what you wanted to

let you know yourself or if you're going to jump in here we're going to go to a short break and after that short break we'll continue our discussion on some real news stay with art. the u.s. is trying to claim to this idea of the u.s. dollar reserve currency empire they built post world war two hero for everyone gets into debt to the america and pays homage to america china russia iran africa. they're all saying now we want markopolos trump wants markopolos up we want to go for it we want to trade directly bilaterally we don't want to be part of the globalization anymore. i've been saying the numbers mean something they matter the u.s.

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back to cross talk where all things are considered i'm peter labelle were discussing some real news. and i want to discuss something mark sent me just before and before we sat down here from the washington monthly an article this is quite fascinating. not supposed to be a comedy program but maybe we'll have some comedy here how the republicans in russia are remaking the supreme court now mark sent this to me because well it's kind of and what do you call it in russia gate peak is that what you call that i think that's what i've usually we're not there yet i don't know exactly right and it's written by a gentleman named john store store ok just some snippets here. while it is still

unclear whether trump colluded and then we approach this week with the mother probe when completed will tell us more it is likely the russian sub russian sub or two years churned the election in favor in his favor trumps james clapper the former intel she said as much go further from the kremlin's point of view the best way to weaken our country is to increase the power of our most undemocratic branch you said to me mark your reaction. i think this reveals the true intent of the russian operation to put the manchurian candidate trump into office and this was to take over the supreme court of the united states brett kavanaugh you know so i don't i don't really know how to take this this is is pure insanity is a product of a fevered and delusional mind who wants to imagine anyone

who disagrees with him politically like say the supreme court justice in the united states if that was just appointed to him i have no friend of myself for political rather than say be your reason. but this is this is we are seeing such a stand he not only does he actually question the legitimacy of brett kavanaugh but many others as he references the work and he says he the work he references in the article claims that all five conservative member of the. illegitimate i didn't trust and it's russia. will be easily embrace drinking beer. braised deriding that's ok i can go with that. there is another various quote from there he's quoted someone named kathleen hall jamieson who is is it. didn't in the political circles or washington russians

persuaded enough people in the right state of war to certain we don't want the same they would have this revelation from the us court that they can date in seven more russian intelligence offices so we have thirteen indicted a few months ago and i would have seven more twenty people persuaded three hundred million americans in the right states to walk in a certain way or charades persuaded people not to war to talk so if. twenty people could do that to millions then they are geniuses you know and whose were going to protect it protect us from all of that jeff sessions you know that person of great integrity has been recused again he's a reaction to these news about russian hackers indicted state sponsored taken in disinformation can compete in sports serious thread stall security and open society

but the department of justice is defending against them kind of quote from jeffs i think. i had told him to go that he was still around anyway and that they forgot that james clapper whom who thought of this article jon stewart called quotes s. mouth to episode or of russians on russians he said that russian site genetically inclined to plan to treat and then to fear milligan he haley says more or less the same thing going to go edge of i think the reason why this is becoming a bit of a comedy is because this is the russia good thing it works i mean let's not let's not forget how this all started with the hillary clinton or so of course revealed that they were passing over questions around town hall meetings and essentially they colluded so. russia can really be blamed for everything and some of the of course the some serious case this book. is going to walk into the colonies section is wrong because if you remember well my my favorite articles last week was blaming the poor star wars movie on the kremlin because you know. they were russian boats

were out there one size fits all told they were in the western culture probably my favorite was george to start your kid through and he was accused of sexual harassment and essentially he turned around saying well. a lot of this online traffic is obviously russian bought and because he's you know being quite well spoken about the rights put him took a personal offense to it so putin is coming after him so he sent out this week to try to reassure him and run their friends and let me just reassure you that i will stand up against the russians are coming for me i will continue to fight for you so so he went from being a sexual predator to essentially being a victim and fighting for justice and so there was something like really good works that russia the model in the u.k. they were apparently was. slipped a rat poison you know and she made the cover of some tabloid to be fair the mainstream media obviously nailed this one on the head because they're obviously

auditor monitoring my twitter account because i indeed posted a good review of the last year and i thought it was complete garbage when we saw it again the no that was solo and i always had the critics hated it so i guess by the time i like to make people believe that solo was a good movie it was obviously a kremlin bought influence operation me being one of the most well known kremlin influence bots i guess. is there anything that you don't like in the u.s. that you can now that neither agency of everyone and everyone else and claim that boris and natasha are responsible for it is the syria thing is that they are really you know all the claims of meddling in american politics at the same time the united states openly conks about meddling in the politics of countries all over the world iran is the best example of rudy giuliani. during the general assembly walked across the street. it was saying you know regime change in two thousand and

nineteen i mean it's like if there's no introspection there's no self reflection as bipartisan because nancy pelosi is talking to me kay as well and everyone gets behind you know talk of overthrowing the government in venezuela the rod you know the u.s. meddling is is ubiquitous and at the same time european leaders during the elections several european leaders not only use their state media there was extremely biased against trump but several e.u. leaders openly publicly in the worst hillary clinton how many of the minds did they bedell and influence with how many minds did the tell you prime minister convince with with his endorsement of hillary clinton how to vote for her again in the world there is no evidence of their core claims that after two years but you know ok let's suppose i'm a person who believes the mainstream press and i should believe that two russian

agents poisoned the script pulse on the fourth of march and then somehow the border with the poisonous substitute you know the substance and leave the until the twenty seventh of june was used by two homeless persons in another town amesbury then i am supposed to believe that's a statement from the british foreign office that britain for the first time identified for cyber attacks as russian sourced they include attacks against the key of metro desk airport russia's central bank and now institutions in the u.k. the russian central bank that you vest their cues in russian intelligence although they could not only british and dutch and american. objects you know including. nuclear fuel would be processed and get three in to protect your data are they saying that the russian central bank is an object of u.s. influence and right. so i went out and i eagerly here in time magazine at the end

of the year is going to be the russian but you know that's really why would you is there western media declared that we were in a building that the chairman of the russian central bank the best central banker in that wall there was a very funny if you can i did go right. and then the russian hackers decided that i think immediately after the cold war there was an interesting piece in new york times i think was in one thousand and three it was one of the leaders of a national government for democracy one of the sponsors of democracy it is and he has actually made the argument that a lot of what it did during the cold war covertly couldn't be done over at least in the name of democracy so didn't have to hide himself in more so since if you see a government which isn't what defined the us democratic then you can do whatever you want to topple it like you're going to be. this government funded ok here's my deal with the we'll get it they were they were fearful they were

a few people there with a loser footing and then flipped on it we're not going to warm and always make a good argument for promoting democracy but i think at the heart of it the problem is that it undermines the entire concept of international law because in international law there has to be reciprocity i mean if i give up my for flexibility you know this if you have a lot expect the same from you so the problem here is of course that the west you know the stewards of democracy you can then say that no this is on the us because we're the marxist or we can topple governments are you saying that legibly russia through wiki leaks exposing that the democratic primary was rigged by hillary clinton and the n c that that is a legitimate act of democratization. and all kind of was. going father of. political theory he made the argument that he was concerned about the west after a cold war because this is not they don't. consider ourselves good because what we do but when. sounds good because who we are and essentially so we can accept your

source yes we can essentially we can talk to critically look at the president in ukraine. as a way to promote democracy it will still be over here since the cold war when and where as it were still waiting i think there is an important exception i mentioned it saudi arabia we are sorry yes but we can actually very a statement from mr trump last week i love the king sound not so much what i said but protected you might not be there for two weeks without you have to pay for your new tree and the quote that is mr trump talking to the changing of democracy prince said what he meant her own prince said i think it was very revealing what you said we buy everything we have in mind i think that he where.

the journalist vanishes with reports he's been killed inside the saudi consulate we had basically denies such allegations. dismisses dutch claims that russia tried to hack the international chemical weapons watchdog the c.w. back in april saying it was just a routine visit to the hague that side presents the incident as a special operation by russian military intelligence service g r u. s record breaking mixed martial arts champion know my commute of returns home to a hero's welcome in russia's republic of dagestan after beating arash superstar cama drug.