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you would think it would be for billions in cash but a new class action lawsuit against three m. dupont and nine other companies isn't looking for payback they're asking for the companies to create a panel of independent scientists tast was studying the effects of p.s. chemicals on the human body the lawsuit filed this week by ohio firefighter kevin hardwick seeks relief on behalf of the nationwide class of everyone in the united states who has a detectable level of chemicals in their blood. and poly floral area class of artificial allowed across the country of the world. and that's amazing i was sort of one of the fascinating and it's a very interesting way of sort of using litigiousness to force action instead of just getting money back from them you know this year a number of fire companies and fire training facilities across the country been
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replacing their fire fighting foam which was made from these sort of schedule b.p. . chemicals because it's been going to show and to contaminate groundwater and it's been in city after city the environmental working group actually calculated that one hundred ten million americans may be contaminated with these with these chemicals through their groundwater and through these fire fire foam so something that's meant to say about it actually ends up killing us the long run. we need to stop the contamination before it gets worse right you know how are we doing that it doesn't just affect fire there it's got to imagine that all new job it's a dangerous job now. because our poison water wasn't enough with lead to bring you small fox i mean you know me i'm not a big one for regulation or getting governments involved in doing things but seriously can we just get rid of the smallpox why. we keeping an eye is that anyone
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that goes out to the us and russia this thing is terrifying what do you think you know it is you know it is if it has if you can weaponize it you know the military industrial. complex of the world are going to use it as a weapon but you know what's really sad is that kind of goes along with the first story you talk about again it's are we cutting off our noses to spite our face of the pursuit of you know whether it be better rappers for fast food or you know studying a horse you know pox or whatever you know it's really ridiculous the we would make mistakes like these and allow this kind of information to get out there you always have to be cognizant that look human beings as for all of our greatness we also can drop pretty low and if you put something out that people could then later manipulate you've got to be aware of that you can't just trust people not to do something wrong with it because tragically that's kind of human nature. you know i mean idea of bringing making biological warfare great again is just
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not something you know it's like we just get past the idea of chemical warfare that's horrible and the idea of biological warfare that horrible and let's not get back to is any ideas let's not make smallpox great and. it's horrifying they make people how they are not thicker. it is but remember we're still talking about societies that use chemical weapons against their people all the time let's not forget the tear gas which our police use on protesters is considered a chemical weapon and you can't allow and you're not allowed to use it in war zones but we still do protestors of that makes any sense so you know there's a lot in our society that we need to start balancing out especially as we drive forward into the future and and on walk even more potential for we have to take that time so i can stop and say is this really smart are we doing the right thing well i'm going to. take this show into the next next half and i
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have to say goodbye to you for it to thank you so much for for coming on today and letting us know if again we got to be a little more careful with our staff thank you so much as we go to break watchers don't forget to let us know what you think of the topics we covered have facebook and twitter share thoughts that are coming up we'll talk for me at the from my job john trask about the disappearance of a prominent saudi journalist amal because mike i mean how do you take on and they are coming on. and watching on.
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the way to the united states is dangerous for most of the illegal immigrants. crossing their fingers just as they would a simple i want to take on most of enter and i want to ask some just about what if many of them look for refuge in the so-called sentry sides of the refuse to share information about undocumented migrants with federal authorities the best person to ask than call mom. was you know no i didn't have my son i got him in a lot of class and what about that. they had a black water they all choose to stay in the country with donald trump in the white house all over forty gravels. schools fifty what if he had to be about to do the job of the old offensive it struggles of many couples. to which have the fortitude impulse response both of you up as a pure hope of the. when
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a loved one is murder it's natural to seek the death penalty for the murder i would prefer and it means to win the death penalty just because i think that's a fair thing the right thing research shows that for every nine executions one convict just found innocent the idea that we were executing innocent people was terrifying news just moved to the present and then we hear even many of the times families want the death penalty to be abolished the reason we have to keep the death penalty here is because that's what murder victim's families what that's going to give them peace that's going to give them justice and we come in and say. not quite enough we've been through this this isn't the way. seems wrong. to me. to shape
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out just to come out to it and engage with equals betrayal. when so many find themselves worlds apart. just to look for common ground. a thirty nine year old saudi journalist from all could show gate is missing and even presumed dead after he was at the saudi consulate in istanbul reportedly to obtain documents he needed to marry is fiance in turkey and has not been seen since turkish president erdogan is requesting proof of life the opportunity to search the saudi consulate and access to surveillance footage from the time in question officials in turkey allege that they have information suggesting to show he was
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murdered in the card slip by a team of some fifteen saudis flown in especially to do the job though no evidence to support the claim has come from the turkish government as of our broadcast show he's a writer of a washington post global opinions of a column best known for being the first major arab journalist to interview osama bin laden in the one nine hundred eighty s. and is known for being highly critical of crown prince of saudi mohammed bin so months reform movement earlier this year to show he told al-jazeera quote as we speak today there are saudi intellectuals and journalists jailed now nobody will dare to speak and criticize the reforms and by the crown prince so as pressure between saudi arabia and the rest of the world heats up over everything yemen to iran or national community to act joining me now to help further explain this mysterious former. thank you for thinking so if you so can you explain to me a little bit exciting one of the hard things for people to understand is how could a crime committed inside a foreign consulate be in vesta gated by the country the consulate is in and how
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can that cause problems will. have to do with the permission of the country whose consulate is in this case saudi arabia or in the worst case they can conclude on the consulate they say work spelling you were taking back over this property and they could search it themselves. i don't know that we're at this point but i have to tell you. my my spidey senses tingling here there's something strange about all this because when this first happened my thought was mom had been someone can get away with bloody murder literally and they haven't and i figured this will just be swept under the carpet but actually it's become quite a story now maybe it's because he was with the washington post he's part of the journalistic nobility so to speak his life counts but it is odd especially after trump came out and really criticized saudi arabia so we want more money for your protection you would last two weeks without us i almost have a feeling there's something going on bigger between the united states saudi arabia and of course you know bibi netanyahu and mohammed bin salma and or big buddies the
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ultimate power couple maybe maybe something's changing room when there's something going on behind the scenes what it what's interesting is the timing of this is that as saudi arabia is sort of trying to modernize it so i say in quotations i would be definitely quotation marks a some might or mostly using the crown prince as this like vision of modern and like he's so hip look at him his cool never met on the yacht in the yard. and essential at the end of the day he still wants to be a dictator he just wants to be dictatorial monarchy you know it's it's not really changing how does a free press hurt him and in relation how does not how does this sort of turning your back on a free press going to help them in any way in this i don't i don't it if saudi contacts i don't think free press matters where the otherness goes i don't know i would look at his previous writings regarding he may be
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a critic of mohammed bin some money doesn't mean necessarily he's for freedom and as we understand it and is that even viable and so in saudi arabia look the entire rule of the al saud family depends on strict muslim with the al-shaykh clan you know let's remember this is that the third saudi state the first one went belly up in one thousand nine hundred one the first. in an eight hundred eighteen with the head of the house of saud i actually literally is head hanging from a gate constantinople they they know they're sitting on a powder keg they have been since the kingdom was established in the one nine hundred twenty s. the idea of liberalizing it i think is a very speculative concept at best one of the things that came up also during that same time is that there's a you know at the same time that there's you know saudi arabia possibly having something to do with killing or disappearing. and there's also a female journalist in saudi arabia that you know has retracted but have attracted far less attention there are like when they cut the head off of the shia cleric
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when they take to keep people for sorcery the again they get away with bloody murder all the time the question is this suddenly has got legs and that indicates me something else is going on what a big turkey it seems odd that it's that it's happening in turkey because they don't have the best press freedom they don't they don't land so on the press freedom and access at all in fact that one of the world's biggest jailers of journalists so now with turkey now seemingly defending a journalist is this a sign of change in turkey as far as the press or is this more about we don't like you killing someone on our turf might be needs or maybe simply pot and kettle and that they're using it because it's useful for some bigger game frankly i'm surprised even blamed on putin as we know love to kill germans during was just for fun. well it's still early in the week because i mean when you get out here i'm sure it'll be to ask jennifer rubin i'm sure she'll get a little bit of that but they were the point is i don't know that it has to do with
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press freedom in turkey and it may not even have to do with the wounded sense of sovereignty on turkey support and may simply be that for other reasons they want to pick a fight with the saudis and they're using this as a pretext so can you kind of explain to me the simple terms of why turkey and saudi arabia are are not on the best terms so the. there are number of reasons to some extent we can say it's a struggle for supremacy in the sunni world i mean obviously iran is the leading shiite power but you have a distinction between the gulf monarchies particularly and a more populist base like the muslim brotherhood that everyone is close to and let's remember that for a long time one of the one the ultimate enemy was leftist baathism in communism the saudis the other gulf states supported the muslim brotherhood but with them with the arab spring they began to say you know this whole populous thing is sort of get out of out of control and being a monarch may not necessarily be the best place to be if these people take power so i think there's that sense that that. it is pretense to become the new sunni soltan
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of the sultan of this sunni world can use a more of a populist campaign against people like the saudis so they cut off their support say they're terrorists etc etc so i think there is that distinction between them and there's a lot going on also. of the middle east is that you know saudi arabia and iran there are saudi arabia saying we don't need iran's oil and iran is sort of laughing at them do you think this has anything except i think has something to do with especially since the turks are going to get hammered with american sanctions for buying buying iranian energy you also have a parting of the ways on syria let's remember that for most of the war for the last seven plus years the saudis the turks and the qatar is in the gulf states have all been supporting the same terrorists in syria right now with turkey moving closer to iran and russia where does that leave the saudis and their game plan especially since it's pretty obvious assad is going to win the war in syria. one of the things i found really interesting about this story is that normally u.s.
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officials are you know elected u.s. officials here they have a mother a saudi saudi situation that they can't excuse is they want you know they have a saudi money and they won't take their it's really hard to find someone really being critical and it was so i was sort of shocked that one of the biggest sort of iran haters and saudi supporters senator lindsey graham actually surprisingly tweeted this out today if there was any truth to the allegations of wrongdoing by the saudi government would be devastating to u.s. saudi relationship and there will be a heavy price to be paid economically and otherwise do you think if this comes out that the saudis did in fact have killed or that they're holding him somewhere and they're lying about it are we going to see the same kind of sanctions that we saw with russia and madeleine or the chinese north korea are we going to see that is there any chance of that and think there's i think there's a chance but i wouldn't bet on it. remember they are the biggest consumers of
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lobbying services in this town they own half of this town the israelis of course on the other half and in alliance together they run the road the city everybody knows that. if there is a bridge between them for some reason and you know who is turning against us that that could be big but i think that would be a necessary precondition to see any really serious confrontation with reality what do you think is going to happen i mean what are the next steps we have you know still missing there's a lot of reports of what could have happened what are we going to see next obviously they need to get into the consulate do you think that that will show anything are or what do you think is going to happen or should we expect to hear i think the ball is when they're going to score he has some options as i say he can simply order the consulate closed and search the thing now what if they do that and they don't find anything there we still don't have any answers the question he also has launched. sure there is a lot of dialogue going on between between us. and riyadh to try to come to
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some accommodation here and the saudis will have every reason to make some concessions to go on especially if they are guilty and they need to find some way to to to cover their heads let me ask you this as someone who sort of been on the outside of you know you get information like this one morning and it's like what shall we do what you have to analyze this is a journalist's life is that it does that make it any more or less. of an issue does it make does it have more or less power when it's a journalist she's at stake because it seems you know as a journalist watching that it's terrifying that someone can just silence you when you go to pick up some documents or something do you think that that has more of a standard or is this new is this surprising that there is actually concern over a journal it's bigger than i would have thought but it really depends on who the journalist. after all we've seen for example russian journalists killed who cares they're not really human beings anyway right exactly you know exactly who it is and
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you know if you were the situation and anybody cares much about you as i was doing i don't know exactly what movies washington post new york times c.n.n. something like that you know then you're going to get some attention because this is part of the aristocracy and that's so sad because that's our class this sort of world we live in that you know this is the one place we weren't supposed to have like classes and parade and it was like oh i get that out i'm always trying to be. positively hoping that this ends up being something that's a lot less horrific than it sounds in the news but we'll keep an eye on it and hopefully things will well and without any more pledge to thank you so much thank you so much for helping us make sense of this thank you. because a player is dressed up as their favorite comic book and movie characters to express their fandom in all sorts of ways but one group who placed third at the ma. will be coming cause play contest at new york comic-con took it to
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