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and you look. at. the headlines at this hour in our international clashes erupted between police and protesters in paris as thousands gathered to express their anger over president social reform. in the u.s. city of portland is hit by turmoil as self-styled anti-fascist activists to block traffic and attack cars over the killing of a black man by police. russia dismisses the latest findings of the investigative group of belling cat which says it has identified the second suspect in this group
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. of course you can find all those stories over on our t.v. dot com i'll be here again with headlines in about an hour's time in the meantime it is. a low in welcome to cross talk for all things are considered i'm peter. descending into tribalism and cultural trench warfare high weaken as it will be but only in a less liberal progressive sloppy thinking. well they tried to do the same if they missed that and yet you know it's ok to be falsely accused because we're making up for all the time women have. had the congress and.
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and culture and mass and crazy. ok ok well kathy you brought up the word craziness here let me go to daniel here i mean you've written about this here i mean what accounts for you know. after the process after the nomination process was complete then we started a completely different asymmetrical process that is not founded in law and not even in common sense but this simply rage this is what we're seeing is rage and it's not it's mindless rage i would say go ahead daniel. well first of all i agree with kathy except for one point what she's describing is really is truly crazy but it's not left wing craziness is an example of how the democrats and liberals and feminists are rushing to the right they are a gauge and i have long race of the republicans to see who can get to the right fastest real leftists believe in a poll very strongly with the principles of due process and the assumption of
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innocence and i agree totally that a false accusation is very bad and the weather involves rape or or anything else doesn't matter at all it's very important to to withhold judgement or all the facts are in so that nobody is falsely accused now what we're seeing in america we're seeing an epic breakdown in politics america has a very old system of government is actually the oldest nation on the face of the earth its government dates back to seven hundred eighty seven one catherine the great was still alive for example there was still a holy roman empire there was still a papal state in italy and there was still a monarchy in france that form of government is with us still today largely to a great degree unchanged and it is in an epic breakdown and that's a breaks down the country is going mad and all kinds of crazy currents are being
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unleashed and that includes this kind of weird strange tribalism and bizarre logic which says a false accusation is ok if it involves rape it's just completely bonkers but that's where american politics are heading ok randy kathy real quick you want to jump in there go ahead. i just want to hear you. and i think we really have to get our minds around the democratic party. i'm not hearing. whether someone if they don't mind it was back to the days of the mccarthyism where a whisper and of an allegation to literally destroy your own life or are some me say trying to take us back to our days the jim crow laws i grew up in a very big south and i remember the story for example in the young black boy who was brutally beaten drove dragged behind a car because
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a white woman made a lot of allegation and he was trying to talk to her or in alabama the ninth always blag always a good twenty five of them will receive a death sentence because two white men last week accused her raping them and this is and this is where the democratic party the radical democratic party the rag or lap trying to take us back to is where we're now do with the presumption of innocence now my reply could be utterly lumia glibly going to los angeles ron how do you say you were to die the democratic party but peter ok jenny real quick a little bit around here a democratic party is not a radical left party sorry i truly the point ron you know i don't even go to run ragged up really early for this. run a lot has been said i got it in riyadh. yeah i kind of echo yeah the
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democratic party is not a radical left party they're not even a left party in my opinion i would describe them as a center right party. and i think that's kind of the when i say we're in neutral you know that's kind of what i'm referring to you know going forward when we're looking towards the midterms. you know people are saying there's going to be some blue wave i do think that trump is going to be enough to pick up a little on the democratic side but as far as framing a message and framing policy positions and framing boyd is in actual opposition the democratic establishment has not done that they largely have not done that. so when you don't really have a real opposition in our politics which i would say at the establishment level we really don't have. you know you just kind of have. the nonstop echoes
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fear of the media that we have yeah well daniel is absolutely right and ron and cathy here i mean the democratic party isn't a radical party but it is embracing these radicals their tactics and their rhetoric ok because i think they're afraid of it as well ok i think cathy brought up mccarthyism amy this is what's going on there's very few people willing to stand up to what is really mob politics by fringe groups ok go and you'll be going to let me go to daniel curse go ahead yes it's a go ahead yes i mean but it's that's not that's what he said it's radical it's important to emphasize it's radical in the sense of the radical right the democrats are essentially adopting right wing neo mccarthy i policy yes and which they are tossing out the presumption of. innocence overboard this is very dangerous they are a center right party. which is moving further to the right so we have two right
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wing parties and the country welcome to the right the same way brazil is ok and so this is this is completely outrageous guitar part trying to level with us ok hang on cathy hang on the skype there is a little dodgy there about kathy i think with what daniel is saying is that they both parties are adopting the same kind of tactics i think that is very very true ok i am not and i think oh absolutely absolutely right the. democrats are present and bill is simply trying to do his job and i might add very you know the democrats are all meaning is resist. ah. now we have you now that you are like oh you mean like them they fast tracked fifteen of his judges so they could go on vacation soon or that's the type of resistance you're referring to but what about i was about when and what about when they get your. ass for that's nothing to do with the presidency back to the job or
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contract rather not how lately you said i don't like their. time hang on guys don't talk over each other ron you get the last twenty seconds before the break go . well you know the democratic you have to really we're mad at the idea that the democrats are really resisting trump i think is nothing short of absolutely comical they're assisting and so many ways where you are move in and out rates are. ok because of the hard cases every day are going to be politics i want to jump in here after a short break we'll continue our discussion on chaotic politics day with r.t. .
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in some ten there is a trade in young girls sold into an underground sex in the street sometimes but the people they trust the most. down. to earth. welcome back to cross talk we're all things are considered i'm peter we're discussing chaotic politics. ok let me go back to daniel here let me get another quote for the program. here. came out on twitter here and one of the writers for the not so funny late show with
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stephen colbert a woman named ariel duma wrote whatever happens i'm just glad we ruined brett kavanaugh life react to that daniel i mean is that juvenile and destructive mindless and really unhelpful it's really mean spirited i think that's what i see when i see a good part of the left go ahead daniel. well first of all i wouldn't agree this woman is on the left but i certainly agree that it's mindless mean spirited vindictive etc but the point is that you know is that it's replacing it has replaced any kind of substantial discussion as to why as to what really else this country american government is and break down not because the donald trump or because of brett kavanaugh it's breaking down because ancient constitutional machinery is breaking down americans think they live in
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a democracy they really live in a minority dictatorship where the ancient constitution a centrally empowers minorities the electoral college the senate the house of representatives to lord it over the great majority of americans who want a more sane society this is the really important point and ron's point about the resistance is actually absolutely correct the only resistance we see out there is that the democrats are mobilizing the cia and f.b.i. and order to attack trump from the right by stirring up war fever against russia it's utterly not the struct of and that's only going to have negative consequences and then go back to ron in los angeles you know one of the reasons why i like having you on ron because you're what we're one of the people that are progressive that always talks policy and that's where i think conversations get very very interesting you can disagree but you can you can hash it out here this is what this
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atmosphere right now i don't see any talk of policy in a serious way i can't think because many on the left don't have any policies don't have any real strong we are ideas on how to move forward because trump is just blinds their. blinds their thought processes ok and it's a lot simpler and easier just to say it's cavanagh is a bad person all white men are part of the patriarchy i mean that gets really stimulates a lot of people because it sounds cool but it's vacuous it really means nothing and it's as a form what i would call of hate speech go ahead ron. well i mean yeah you haven't seen much policy toxins twenty sixteen i mean i mean you you really haven't and democrats really haven't kind of taken a taken an autopsy of the whole situation i'm no fan of cavanagh i think he was an awful choice a i wish she wouldn't have been confirmed at all but you know you
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didn't see much policy the same as you know everything that's been going on in the past which ideas and i think it's because democrats don't really have it and when i say democrat talking about at the establishment level there are some diamonds in the rough there are some people that are you know proposing some great ideas but those people are in the minority in the party and they're always expected to bend the knee to the establishment instead of the establishment coming to them and saying hey how can we keep our jobs because people aren't happy with us what can we do to keep our jobs it's not working that way it's working the other way around it's hey you have some good progressive ideas we don't want to do that and bend the knee to us or you're outta here it's completely backwards nancy pelosi not too long ago said if you know if the democrats get a lot of power in the midterms they wouldn't still pay go meaning that every time you wanted to do a policy you would have to pay for it with some other cut that basically kneecaps
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the idea of any progressive policies like single payer health care you know like a jobs program living wages or anything like that it kind of kneecaps that entire idea and that's what ninety two percent of the base wants you know kathy one of the things that so disturbing here is that we see the democrats and others on the left that essentially play are playing the race card and the sex card. and anyone that disagrees with them because it is ron points. then there are not too many people are talking about policy if you disagree you're racist here is enough for been you're a sexist that is not dialogue that is not a way to do come to terms with the chaos it's all around us why do you think the democrats continue to play that card card yet and let me just say i'll own that that you meant it as then brought to us by the democratic party primarily the last
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us and listening to dan your mom and i will is no. bill is not a somewhat walk then you are that twilight who will you start talking about. the constitution let it be clear that america does not exist apart from the constitution even our founder john adams that the constitution is made for religious and moral people it is wholly inadequate for any other kind of evil many people understand the difference between right and wrong and most of the things that we're seeing that transpire in our country today where we're not talking about our sleeves we're not talking about the well i'm sorry and many in the republican party are talking about policy more we talk about with china and the rest of the world when we talk about the nap that i'm doing now that policy when we talk about how or why to interact with iran and with other desiree's like north korea and.
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so the more i talk about securing our border. so the right and represented by president outsmart is talking about policy all the time but then we have it you may not want to call it radical but there is a significant radical alabama we have senator her around her democrat ron why telling people that it's ok to get up in the face is that you are elected official or basically anyone who doesn't agree with you and you resist as many were assessed a list back on now that radical. well throw away i don't i don't know if it's radical but i'm so certain that it's not productive daniel at all here what's really quite fascinating to me as the midterms approach is that it seems to me the democrats are doing almost everything in their power to try to push people away from it because there is this perception that the party is radical or won't stand
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up to radicals i mean all you have to do is watch the the airwaves i mean you could watch c.n.n. and listen b.c. and fox news see the same pictures and people are going to come to very different conclusions that's one of the interesting thing times that we live in here you could see the same things and draw a radically different conclusions go ahead daniel. listen i love to bash the democrats as much as anybody i just hate the democrats i loathe and despise them but. we can't let the republicans off scot free the republicans are a minority party that have used their constitutional advantages to grab control of all the major institutions in washington and then now the supreme court they are using racial politics racial politics to to solidify their power. trump was elected by a minority of the people he still grab power via the. electoral college the senate as i said fifty four percent of the of the country lives in ten states
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which are overwhelmingly democratic but there are outvoted four to one by the easy percent that lives in the other forty states thanks to this ridiculous senate concept of equal state representation and the republicans have gerrymandered the house to the point where they now have an eleven percent advantage over the democrats a built in eleven percent advantage so these this minority party has now just captured control of the fourth branch of the fourth major institution the supreme court so don't tell me the democrats are the one sole the guilty of using this kind of minority politics because the republicans are playing the game even better. well i do not a i do not agree with that it's asked nat west however i mean yes it's very elegant read but it's not when we talk about this that require one of them we're. having have a not far to the supreme court is that now democrats primarily do not have
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large sweeping legislation and are going down with the exception of a bomb here right about now here it is not with then the repertoire of democrats the ask large sweeping legislation to fundamentally change our nation instead they sidetracked people they go straight to activist judges now that we have cannot be on the supreme court who is a kind of makes it decidedly conservative meaning that the supreme court will now interpret the constitution and not rewrite the constitution and i do not believe that the constitution as a lead to a living breathing document to be open and to be. at every generation. ok to run it it seems to me that you know both parties like to use the constitution as a weapon not as as and it was intended here i mean now we hear the democrats
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if they get control of the house which is really kind of nonsensical then they're going to try to pack the court were they couldn't even do that but i mean it's as if it seems to me there's a final mis understanding of what the system should do and it's being being cherry picked for whatever partisan agenda you want to push go ahead ron. yeah you know first of all i think daniel and i kind of see eye to eye on some of the stuff that's going on contemporarily and i'm not used to anybody agreeing with me on this show peter some a little i'm a little weirded out i don't know where i fit in now. but yeah i think it's become you know the whole purpose of the supreme court is to you know hold up the law and into you know give those interpretations when necessary and it seems that as of recent in and maybe it's always been that way is just you know we're seeing a much bigger light on it because of what's going on contemporarily but it but it
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seems more as just a way to serve one political agenda or the other and that's not something i think will actually. that's my point exactly here ok daniel you're going to give you twenty seconds how to fix the system twenty seconds go right. the law is unfair the law is unfair that. fifty democrats for three part republicans who voted for kavanaugh represent less than thirty seven percent of the u.s. population how is that fair how is that democratic the law is undemocratic the law has got to change this absurd eighteenth century constitution has got to go americans are the huddled masses of america are yearning to breathe free but this pre modern constitution won't allow that this doesn't say ok when i say change the law legally and democratically and no revolution no revolution that's all the time
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