islanders say paris should hold up the poisoning their lands. would have small didn't kill displace decides not twenty year old to it was for you and the regional health. officials and no one they looted the populations. it's eight o'clock here in moscow and you're watching r t international live from our studio with me they do it today welcome to the program. the first developments regarding the dissident sided journalist who went missing in turkey more than a week ago security video has been obtained by a turkish t.v. channel which shows jamal entering the side the consulate in istanbul he hasn't been seen since with the latest his our senior correspondent right gusta. new details and accusations are emerging with the disappearance of a dissident journalist after he entered the saudi consulate in istanbul days ago we

saw c.c.t.v. footage apparently showing jamal the shuggie fierce critic of saudi arabia entering the consulate new footage released by turkish media shows a black vehicle with tinted windows entering the premises of the consulate shortly after and leaving just minutes later the predominant theory echoed by both turkish and foreign media is that he has either been kidnapped or murdered and the saudi arabia is using the confusion to shift blame the use anonymous social media accounts to blame turkey and imply that turkey is behind our disappearance of shogun and we're trying to say we murdered him but we would put the blame on another country i mean turkey saudi arabia has since allowed both journalists and investigators into the consulate the show that. isn't there days after his

disappearance although considering that all they really have to do is show him leaving. responsible for showing that this person made his way out of the building obviously the consulate responsible for that you don't have cameras there of course you do so you have to prove that he left the premises why did you do that you should prove that the b.b.c. interviewed mr shrug just days before his disappearance and they asked him whether he would ever return to saudi arabia. of a list of a friend who did. committing the towards to be of this to make you feel as you do mr shoghi who has more than a million followers and twitter has been a strong critic of saudi arabia for what he says is censorship and human rights abuses and has recently been writing columns for the washington post. the people said that it would be a monstrous. to use green mud and with this much attention on the case

we're about to find out more sooner rather than later. u.s. state department officials say they've spoken to side to arabia over the journalist mysterious disappearance because she had spent the past year in america increasing concern that the fifty nine year old welfare has seen pressure mounts on washington from all sides including american journalists. and it's nearly a week it's we. first reports of his disappearance and that statement from secretary pompei oh are you assuming that taking time to put out a statement means that the state department has not been doing anything is that your assumption of what was the state department during the state department was engaged at the highest levels and also at the working level and having conversations with saudi government officials and i'll leave it at that and so what was the reason behind that delay statement i wouldn't i wouldn't call it a delay why has not secretary pump aoe said that if the reports are true and the

saudis our allies turn out to be cold blooded killers that there will be repercussions we're going to wait until the facts come out and we call again for a thorough and transparent investigation to be repercussion again let me say this one more time i'll leave it at that i don't have anything i don't have anything more for you on this today last time i'll say this i don't have anything more for you on this today so i don't have anything more for you on that when i do i would be happy to give it to you. the executive director of the vulcan paul peace institute told us don't need to tread carefully over his response all risk alienating a key middle east partner. the president is in a very delicate and precarious situation because on the one hand he's tied his mass to a degree to moderate and some of the crown prince of saudi arabia so he's going to go over there and he's going to start accusing them of murdering a cautionary that he's going to fight who his middle east policy in a shambles so he's in a very delicate situation i think it really underscores the toxicity of the u.s.

saudi relationships which we may actually see being unraveled as was. as brett kavanaugh on his his first arguments as a u.s. supreme court judge the bitterness and anger of his opponents over his appointment remains as wrong as ever kelly more pin takes a look at how it could have long lasting political repercussions after a great deal of controversy brett kavanaugh has been confirmed on to the u.s. supreme court as a justice now as if all that controversy weren't enough we now have donald trump throwing some fuel onto the fire on behalf of our nation i want to apologize to brett to be blocked. all of this comes at a time when we are seeing a sort of anti russia euphoria and a wave of believe being assigned against russia this has all come up this summer where the u.k. had the initiative to put forward this idea of allowing the o.p.c.

w to assign blame as part of its work and we know that eighty two countries out of one hundred ninety three members of the o p c w had supported this idea where twenty four voted against it and twenty six abstained and the russian envoy to the o.p.c. w. also pointed out that according to him the script. are baseless he talks about how neither the o.p.c. w nor porton down were able to assign the origin of the novacek being talked about he said that he thinks there's no doubt that porton down has previously worked and continues to work with. agents he's also denied any accusations made against russia just last week trying to blame it for attempting to carry out a cyber attack at the o p c w. locals on the

french island of malta can the caribbean say their health is at risk because of the toxic pesticides the chemical is banned on mainland front itself but island and say it's been allowed for use on the banana plantations for decades and claim it's causing serious illnesses. in the nineteen seventies yes this kind of ground zero was back in the in the usa

the second year in this period plus started using it in martinique until ninety ninety four so the question is why. for years we have swallowed and inhaled these past decides not one yell to it was for years and the regional health agency knew officials knew and no one a lot population this is very. soon vic it's not possible to get an estimate of the number of patients who are victims of florida con will you be the priority is to determine the number of farmers who were working in the banana plantations i don't know there are hundreds and many of them have died of prostate cancer as many had premature baby so you know why did they let french people sleep speak taters because they contaminated

but they let us eat the same potatoes train same period. when one is aware that a product is toxic and still use it as assassination such as martha the french state is complicit in this assassination because they will slice. peace talks in. the face of the state must take its share of responsibility for this pollution must make progress on the path of for abrasion and projects i hope that collectively will put our efforts toward zero cortico in food that's the only thing that makes sense please if east were not one state facts are there and deleterious then it is unfortunately irreversible. i expect the culprits to take responsibility and face the consequences. number of doctors in the u.k. could be facing an investigation over gender selection services the treatment is

illegal in the u.k. and will be debating the issue live after this short break. put themselves on the line to get accepted or rejected. so when you want to be president the interim. want. you to go right to the first this is what

the four three of the more people. interested always in the waters of. the city. welcome back to the program british m.p.'s calling for a medical inquiry into reports that some doctors in the u.k. have been secretly charging couples but choosing the sex of their child gender selection is illegal in britain the country's medical watchdog has expressed concern over these latest revelations. we are confident that the vast majority of the. good news do not recommend six election whom all brought however would take

allegations of sex selection seriously and will investigate and in specific cases brought to our attention. according to british media couples have paid up to fourteen thousand pounds for the illegal procedure several senior doctors have allegedly set up appointments at private clinics in the u.k. for clients and they then complete their medical treatment abroad in countries like cyprus and the e.u. . to discuss this further and now we're going to bring in political activist kate smith weight and josephine quint of all the founder of comment on reproductive ethics which focuses on ethical dilemmas in reproduction thanks very much both of you for coming on to the program kate let's start with you the kind of treatment that gender selection involves is usually reserved for women who suffered multiple miscarriages or there might be family genetic disorders like. muscular dystrophy which usually affects boys in your opinion should this kind of treatment

be offered to everybody. well you know first of all let's just talk about what the reasons of why people would choose to do that you know i mean you correctly mention that there are medical conditions which either only affect boys or only affect girls and it's actually fairly standard practice in lots of places around the world for couples who have a family history of those kind of conditions to be given i.v.'s and given the opportunity to select the gender of child that is less likely to suffer from those conditions i think we would all take steps to try and make sure that our children were less likely to have problems later in life in all sorts of different ways. you know and the bottom line is that people from people will always travel people always going at these treatments and i absolutely personally i think it the idea of just choosing the sex of your child based on a whim i think you know i think to me it sounds horrid. but what we should be asking really is the question what kind of cultural reliving in if people have a really strong feeling if people really really only want

a boy should we be forcing those people to have a girl do we want a girl raised in a family that really only wants a boy and in a culture that evidently values boys much more strongly i think rather than telling people in a sort of situation where they're seeking fertility without making decisions about their own bodies this is what you can and can't do i think that's the wrong way to go about it i think what we need to do is challenge the wider society and say hey we shouldn't have a society where boys and girls are valued differently we should have a society frankly where when a baby is born the first question isn't is it a boy or a girl the first question is is it healthy and congratulations and all that kind of thing so it's not that i think these are good reasons for making that decision i think we should be trying to encourage the good decision making not by telling people what they can and can't do with their bodies because you know there is a long history of people trying to do that especially to women and it is not a very pleasant one and i think the very least that women should be offered is the

right to choose for themselves what treatment they do have or don't josephine kate's got a point hasn't she should women be allowed to choose what to do with their bodies or is it the opposite are they indeed not choosing they choose way. what you're doing here is not talking necessarily about the woman's body you're talking about the body of somebody else human life begins at the embryonic stage and if you're going to choose. the matter if it's not in my opinion. i think yes it's in your and you can say it has no you have you can save and give has now you've given by all by that i met raul i just russians and gynecologist and i three the british medical council they disagree this is not and i obviously don't have i said i am through joseph a no i'm going to interrupt you all day say something true no less when when you're choosing which you want you're going to analyze which is male which is female you're making a choice there and this is what i'm saying i don't accept that because in choosing

my eyes i'm not going to i am going to altie. sorry it but it's not your body it's . ok let me let me hear what it would be nice to say josephine let's get let's just hear your opinion on this. i'm saying that you can only achieve this by discriminating by rejecting the embryo you don't want on the basis of that six and i think that six discrimination very last thing that women should be buying and. i happen to come from the first thing in the world to give women the vote i believe in women's rights etc i think women are quite capable of accepting a pregnancy and do not need to go into this nonsense of i want to boy or i want to girl you can suggest i might like one i have five lovely sons i might at some stage thought wouldn't it be nice to have a girl i've now got four lovely granddaughters you know boys and girls in my opinion are absolutely equal and i don't think you should do anything deliberate

two to make you. get your choice because the price is that you need to do is to discard the embryos of the wrong six yeah i mean kate i mean if kate you know that there is the question of mother nature isn't there here what is wrong with women just what is going on there is that i'm saying what they have to go with. if we're going to go with the inverted commas rule of mother nature and of course nobody would get i.v.'s were taught and sure there are people out there who feel that that's the right way to go about things i personally think that it's a very lovely thing to be able to offer to people who want to have a baby and who aren't being successful in conceiving naturally of course once you're talking about not actually i'm not actually doing. if. i were presumably if you wanted a girl rather than a boy and you had five boys as i had you would have been dollars to embryos because

you want to just want the girl i'm in the process of of achieving what you want. can only be done so i want talking about why we're in asia and i want you talking about. sorry we are talking about ivy and climate just isn't fair use is what we do that doesn't most for the. many occasions these issues come to light because some conditions pass through the mail rather than the female and and families that have had jenison diseases go down the ivy if root in order to to to see how they're going to solve that problem but just an on a purely basic choice position you cannot just randomly choose one without discriminating against the other. kate is that it's not a question of the only people who hate it is illegal in the u.k. when it is the point is you know the point of this debate is it's not even really care but as you don't recap here because i don't. i genuinely don't know what we're talking about here joseph it is

a gene or series of clean is who i am and i don't understand what we all know we're talking about but so sure what choice are we social choice josephine is just to explain that she wouldn't had she given the choice and she had the chance to choose a girl then she would have been four or five embryos because she had fry only why would not and that's one of the cases that lean a little you know if you're looking at me it is by choosing i hear. i don't understand what you're talking about this doesn't make any sense ok let's go blackness along with a choice between kate let's go back to this really is the debate the debate is ok that it is illegal in the u.k. but it is offered in other countries yes. why don't you tell us if you're you know we're talking about gender selection. gender selection are you talking about gender selective abortion or are you talking about gender selection at the stage of doing i.v.'s treatment we're talking about how little you know it's

a true acts of your baby and it is done through i.v.'s as we know that's the only way to be honest with you about i.b.s. what almighty waste of time you told anyone talking about i react as if. i mean i didn't i mean i don't mean that i'm going to talk about mother nature i.d.f. is the opposite of doing what mother nature wants so when we get to that we want to hear about deliberately set the mother nature own humans. i'm not talking about mother nature i'm here as directly opposite of mother nature's. ok josephine. but i don't know what you're talking about. this if a and. josephine like them they we know an example here of a u.k. t.v. star done a lawyer she has four sons and you obviously had a similar situation and she said if there was an opportunity to ensure her fifth child was a girl why shouldn't she have but i would be allowed to use it well i would ask how

is she going to achieve this if she's got some wonderful natural way of doing it and tries it out and it doesn't involve creating a number of embryos and choosing the one of the right six then probably that would be acceptable but currently the way that you can choose the sex of your child which is a story that was in the papers it was by sixing embryos outside the womb and deciding which one you wanted. and this is what the question was should we be able to do this should we be able to go through the i.v. if process in order to have a baby of the six we preferred that's how i was presented ok so we are. not you cannot achieve that by really angry at. you might create one female and that's what you want and that's what you go with that normally and i think if there are multiple embryos created ok ladies they're running out of our

lives here just in case they say or is absolutely standard caitlin running out and she'll make a point because i mean ok so she totally changes the subject i was drifting off on a tangent and then doesn't leave me time to respond to one completely meaningless nonsensical quickly written run of the next interview case quickly respond ok i've done when i v f is done it is absolutely standard to create more embryos than you intend to implant the spare embryos are normally kept in a fridge freezer or whatever to be used in the future if they wanted every year lots and lots of embryos are discarded because people have i.v.'s and they actually don't want to have ten children they want to have one or two children it's absolutely standard if you are against discarding embryos then you are against i.v.'s and you welcome to campaign on that front person i think it's a very fantastic process and it's brilliant that it's available to couples and if couples have a strong feeling about what the woman does or doesn't want to be pregnant and what they want what she wants to go on that it is inevitable that they're going to

follow up on that and i think there are often quite legitimate reasons for it and i think that one thing we shouldn't do is try and interfere in that very very personal and intimate process i did front. that we think is right or wrong especially in this kind of nonsensical and frankly deliberately of choose to find a way thank you it corresponds to. my my only comment is that i suggest that kate reads the article that we've been discussing and assistance and much greater what the what the controversial issues are great what i suggest you read some books about women's rights joseph thinks i'm pretty bored of you telling women what they can look a i think you look at how many were one hundred.