hello and welcome to cross talk for all things are considered i'm peter all of l. descending into tribalism and cultural trench warfare the highly contentious brett kavanaugh supreme court nomination process has ignited passions and anger on both

sides of the aisle interestingly and ironically the point where there is white agreement is the recognition the status quo is deeply flawed and sadly with no way out. cross talking america's chaotic politics i'm joined by my guest daniel as are in new york he's an author and a freelance journalist who writes frequently about the middle east eastern europe and the us constitution in philadelphia we have kathleen arnett she is a veteran and political commentator and in los angeles we have ron look own he is a comedian frequent guest on the jimmy door show and the young turks as well as host of his own streaming show get your news on with ron all right crosstalk rules in effect that means he can jump in anytime he wants and i always appreciate it well ron you know i'm going to go to you first because i always go to the person that got up early as for this program in los angeles and you look great i think you got a lot of coffee and you. i came out and came across an article here white women come

and get your people they will defend their privilege to the death it was about by a woman name alexis. and she writes white women benefit from patriarchy by trading in their whiteness to monopolize resources for mutual gain white women are expected to support the patriarchy by marrying within their racial group i could go on and on this is gobbledygook but it's in the new york times this sounds like progressive racism or progressive tribalism take your pick what do you think ron. well i'm not familiar with that article i've never read that article so i can't really speak much to an article i haven't read the sense of it i gave you a sense of it sure yeah i mean i don't yeah i don't really know like what that is supposed to be good at that oh you have to benefit from the patriarchy or this or

that or you have to. yeah i mean i again i'd have to read the full article to have a way to speak on it but. but yeah i mean as far as tribalism goes i mean i do think we're in an age of alter tribalism on all sides of the aisle on the establishment side and then over on the right as well and then and then some on the left to sell and as a result it seems like we're kind of in a we're kind of stuck in neutral as a country ok kathy i don't think so i don't think the word neutral has approved i think it's deadlock and it's getting worse and worse kathy you want to jump in there as a whole point of the program go ahead as i did because i think the agree that's not a bad article yesterday in every single sentence was inflammatory and racist i talk about it intolerant of the tolerant quote unquote left but you know if i recall correctly he even went on to say bad. that trying to equate am

was awfully accused of rape is not a quibble and a woman who is actually being raped or wanting to lose that alleging that she's been raped what kind of universe is that was. created that is not being falsely accused being sometimes not just as someone who has been raped or someone who is alleged to have been raped now it is just the detrimental to my young man are being a huge he accused of rape. as it would be but oh yeah and let this liberal progressive sloppy thinking i know science friday well if i did the same if they let that you're you know it's ok to be possibly a q. because we're making up. women who have. had congress. and culture and math and that's the crazy ness of the rat ok ok well cathy you

brought up the word craziness here let me go to daniel here i mean you've written about this here i mean what accounts for you know. after the process after the nomination process was complete then we started a completely different asymmetrical process that is not founded in law and not even in common sense but this simply rage this is what we're seeing is rage and it's not it's mindless rage i would say go ahead daniel. well first of all i agree with kathy except for one point what she's describing is really is truly crazy but it's not left wing craziness is an example of how the democrats and liberals and feminists are rushing to the right there a gauge and i have long race of the republicans to see who can get to the right fastest real leftists believe in a poll very strongly with the principles of due process and the assumption of

innocence and i agree totally that a false accusation is very bad and the weather involves rape or or anything else doesn't matter at all it's very important to to withhold judgement or all the facts are in so that nobody is falsely accused now what we're seeing in america we're seeing an epic breakdown in politics america has a very old system of government is actually the oldest nation on the face of the earth its government dates back to seven hundred eighty seven one catherine the great was still alive for example there was still a holy roman empire there was still a papal state in italy and there was still a monarchy in france that form of government is with us still today largely to a great degree unchanged and it is in an epic breakdown and that's a breaks down the country is going mad and all kinds of crazy currents are being

unleashed and that includes this kind of weird strange tribalism and bizarre logic which says a false accusation is ok if it involves rape it's just completely bonkers but that's where american politics are heading ok randy cathy real quick you want to jump in there go ahead. i just want to hear you. and i think we really have to get our minds around the democratic party. i'm not hearing. whether someone if they didn't mind it was back to the days of the party as somewhere a whisper and of an allegation to literally destroy your own life or are some me say trying to take us back to our days the jim crow laws i grew up in a very big south and i remember the stories are for example in young black boy who were brutally beaten drove dragged behind a car because

a white woman made a lot of allegation and he was trying to talk to her or in alabama the ninth always blag always a good twenty five of them will receive a death sentence because two white men last week accused of raping there and this is and this is where the democratic party the radical democratic party the rag or left trying to take us back to its way around now do with the presumption of innocence now my reply could be utterly lumia glibly going to los angeles ron how do you know you were to die the democratic party but peter ok jenny real quick a little good around here a democratic party is not a radical left party sorry i truly the point ron you know i don't let me go to rowan ragout up really early for this fear of ron a lot has been said i got it in riyadh. yeah i kind of echo yeah the democratic party is not a radical left party they're not even

a left party in my opinion i would describe them as a center right party. and i think that's kind of the when i say we're in neutral you know that's kind of what i'm referring to you know going forward when we're looking towards the midterms. you know people are saying there's going to be some blue wave i do think that trump fatigue is going to be enough to pick up a little on the democratic side but as far as framing a message and framing policy positions and framing what is in actual opposition the democratic establishment has not done that they largely have not done that. so when you don't really have a real opposition in our politics which i would say at the establishment level we really don't have. you know you just kind of have. the nonstop echoes

fear of the media that we have yeah daniel daniel is absolutely right and ron and cathy here i mean the democratic party isn't a radical party but it isn't bracing these radicals their tactics and their rhetoric ok because i think they're afraid of it as well ok i think cathy brought up mccarthyism amy this is what's going on there's very few people willing to stand up to what is really mob politics by fringe groups ok go and you'll be going to let me go to daniel curse go ahead yes it's a go ahead yes i mean but it's that's not it's when you say it's a radical it's important to emphasize it's radical in the sense of the radical right. the democrats are essentially adopting right wing neo mccarthy i policy yes and which they are tossing out the presumption of. innocence overboard this is very dangerous they are a center right part. which is moving further to the right so we have two right wing parties and the country welcome to the right the same way brazil is ok and so this

is this is completely outrageous guitar part try to level this ok hang on cathy hang on the skype there is a little dodgy there about kathy i think with what daniel is saying is that they both parties are adopting the same kind of tactics i think that is very very true ok i am not and i think oh absolutely absolutely right the. democrats are present and bill is simply trying to do his job and i am very in on it emigrants are all meaning is resist. now we have humanity and like you mean like them they fast tracked fifteen of his judges so they could go on vacation soon or that's the type of resistance you're referring to but what about i was about when and what about when they get on your. ass for that's nothing to do with the presidency back to the job or contract you

know rather not how lately you said i don't. know i don't hang on guys don't talk over each other ron you get the last twenty seconds before the break go. well you know the democratic you have to really we're mad at the idea that the democrats are really resisting trump i think is nothing short of absolutely comical they're assisting and so many ways where you are moving and. ok because of the hard cases every day are going to be politics i want to jump in here after a short break we'll continue our discussion on chaotic politics day with r.t. . what politicians do something to. put themselves on the line to get accepted or

rejected. so when you want to be president. or somehow want to. have to go right to be cross the saliva before three in the morning can't be good. i'm interested always in the waters of our. first soup. when a loved one is murder it's natural to seek the death penalty for the murder i would prefer it be known to the death penalty just because i think that's the fair thing the right thing research shows that for every nine executions one convict is found innocent the idea that we were executing innocent people is terrifying the is just no way to present and that we hear even many of the times families want the death penalty to be abolished the reason we have to keep the death penalty here is because that's what murder victims' families what that's going to give them peace

that's going to give them justice and we come in saying. not quite enough we've been through this this isn't the way. join me every thursday on the alex salmond show and i'll be speaking to guest of the world of politics sports business i'm show business i'll see of and. welcome back to cross talk were all things are considered i'm peter belcher month we're discussing chaotic politics. ok let me go back to daniel here let me get another quote for the program here. came out on twitter here and one of the writers for the not so funny late show with

stephen colbert a woman named ariel wrote whatever happens i'm just glad we ruined brett kavanaugh life react to that daniel i mean is that juvenile and destructive mindless in really unhelpful to clean kneecaps the idea of any progressive policies like single payer health care you know like a jobs program living wages or anything like that it kind of kneecaps that entire idea and that's what ninety two percent of the base one it's you know kathy and one of the things that's so disturbing here is that we see the democrats and men and mothers on the left that essentially play are playing the race card and the sex card. and anyone that disagrees with them can because it is ron points out there not to many people are talking about policy if you disagree you are racist here is enough open your a sexist that is not dialogue that is not

a way to come to terms with or the chaos that's all around us why do you think the democrats continue to play that card card yeah i'm going to say i'll let you mention them brought by the democratic party i mean well i mean our first hour listening to daniel. and bill is not. when you start talking about. the constitution and let it be clear that america does not exist. even our founder john adams that the constitution is made for religious and moral people in holy had adequate or any other kind of evil meaning people understand the difference between right and wrong and most of the things that we are seeing that transpire in our country today. we're not talking about policies we're not talking about the well i'm sorry not try

and many and that republican party are talking about policy and money talk about with china and the rest of the world when we talk about that now that i'm doing now that policy when we talk about how we're going to interact with iran and with other guests like north korea. so the more i talk about securing our border that some of the right and represented by the president now it's not it is talking about policy all the time but then we have you may not want to call it radical when there is a significant radical alabama we have to go home around our. ally telling people that it's ok to get up in the face is that you are an elected official or basically anyone who doesn't agree with you and you resist as many who are best of this background now that radical and that is what is well to a way i don't i don't know if it's radical but i'm so i just i'm so i'm certain

that it's not productive daniel at all here where what's really quite fascinating to me as the midterms approach is that it seems to me the democrats are doing almost everything in their power to try to push people away from it because there is this perception that the the the party is radical or won't stand up to radicals i mean all you have to do is watch the the airwaves i mean you could watch c.n.n. and listen b.c. and fox news see the same pictures and people that have come to very different conclusions that's one of the interesting thing times that we live in here you could see the same things and draw a radically different conclusions go ahead daniel. listen i love to bash the democrats as much as anybody i just hate the democrats i loathe and despise them but. we can't let the republicans off scot free the republicans are a minority party that have used their constitutional advantages to grab control of all the major institutions in washington and then now the supreme court they are

using racial politics racial politics to to solidify their power. trump was elected by a minority of the people he still grab power via the. electoral college the senate as i said fifty four percent of the of the country lives in ten states which are overwhelmingly democratic but there are outvoted four to one by the easy percent that lives in the other forty states thanks to this ridiculous senate concept of equal state representation and the republicans have gerrymandered the house to the point where they now have an eleven percent advantage over the democrats a built in eleven percent advantage so these this minority party has now just captured control of the fourth branch of the fourth major institution the supreme court so don't tell me the democrats are the one sole the guilty of using this kind of minority politics because the republicans are playing the game even better. well

i do not a i do not agree with that it's asked nat west no answer i mean it's very elegant read but it's not when we talk about the supreme choir one of them where. you have a not far to the supreme court is that now democrats primarily do not have large sweeping legislation and are going down with the exception of obamacare right about now here it is not with the end of the repertoire of democrats the after large sweeping legislation to fundamentally change our nation instead they sidetracked people they go straight to activist judges now that we have had an awful lot of the supreme court who is a kind of makes it decidedly conservative meaning that the supreme court will now interpret the constitution and not rewrite the constitution and i do not believe that the constitution is a lead living breathing document to be open and to be. at every

generation. ok to run it it seems to me that you know both parties like to use the constitution as a weapon not as as and it was intended here i mean now we hear the democrats if they get control of the house which is really kind of nonsensical then they're going to try to pack the court were they couldn't even do that but i mean it's as if it seems to me there's a final mis understanding of what the system should do and it's being being cherry picked for whatever partisan agenda you want to push go ahead ron. yeah you know first of all i think daniel and i kind of see eye to eye on some of the stuff that's going on contemporarily and i'm not used to anybody agreeing with me on this show some a little i'm a little weirded out i don't know where i fit in now. but yeah i think it's become you know the whole purpose of the supreme court is to you know

hold up the law and into you know give those interpretations when necessary and it seems that as of recent in in maybe it's always been that way is just you know we're seeing a much bigger light on it because of what's going on contemporarily but it but it seems more as just a way to serve one political agenda or the other and that's not something i think will actually. that's my point exactly here ok daniel you're going to give you twenty seconds how to fix the system twenty seconds go right. the law is unfair the law is unfair the. fifty demo the three part republicans who voted for kavanaugh represent less than thirty seven percent of the u.s. population how is that fair how is that democratic the law is undemocratic the law has got to change this absurd eighteenth century constitution has got to go

americans are the huddled masses of america are yearning to breathe free but the supreme modern constitution won't allow that this isn't saying ok when i say change the law legally and democratically and no revolution no revolution that's all the time we have many thanks to my guests in new york philadelphia and in los angeles and thanks to our viewers for watching us here at r.t.c. a next time and remember. this is crude oil. so they need to actually physically hold it out of the ground he would have well well well well well well well well well well.

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