revealed some europeans are starting to doubt the necessity of the you really two thirds of the people that responded to the poll say things wouldn't be any worse without the blog the brussels based think tank behind the survey also found that forty nine percent consider the european union irrelevant the findings go on to indicate easier to since they want more transparency and are divided over the primary role of the block but those in power in brussels don't see it that way these foreign policy chief for instance said recently the world wouldn't survive without the twenty eight state union. close your eyes and imagine for one moment the european union disappeared from the global scene right now let us say for a month or week even for a few days the world will simply collapse the world is not in a good shape through much result the european union into a been a much more situation independent journalist lucrative a told us why there's such a noticeable divide between the leadership and ordinary citizens the last story of

europeans with europe is coming to an end that people still feel europeans find but it's second rates not very important and they don't realize that all directors all their own legislation in their own country comes from brussels through the direct is produced by the european commission and approved by the european parliament so it is a strange situation into which europe is very important for european citizens but they don't perceive it you know and they don't they prefer their national identity they keep their nationality the de now want the borders back because they see that european borders don't function after four years of problems so that's the situation now and mrs morgan he can say whatever she she wants to say but she's not a hero for the europeans as your top stories this hour next up it's cross talk so don't go away.

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miss the one and only. a low in welcome to cross talk or all things are considered i'm peter lavelle hillary clinton says civility can only return when the democrats are back in power former obama a.g. eric holder has coined a new phrase when they go low kick them without a doubt both statements can be dismissed as political banter as the midterms loom but it would seem to no one can claim much virtue instability in this environment.

cross talking political discourse i'm joined by my guests in washington richard goodstein he is a democratic political strategist and a former advisor to hillary clinton's two presidential campaigns we also have christopher baron he is president of right turn strategies and we have she's a republican strategist and a principal and relax strategies are a cross-like rules in effect that means you can jump in anytime you want i always appreciate richard you know i'm going to go to you first. hillary clinton's i wandered out of the woods and had a interview and talked about civility which was pretty hard for me to swallow and then a former attorney general kick them i mean i can understand why people accuse donald trump of pulling down the discourse and that would be fair ok but should these two other figures be doing this as well go ahead richard as a point of reference donald trump said to his supporters if you see

a protester punch him and i'll pay your legal fees so that's that's kind of a baseline ok i already richard i did i would i have seen kavi i already gave you that i already gave you that ok but why why it's holding on to not only clinton doing it go ahead. i would urge your viewers peter to watch the entire interview people like you would support donald trump and others i tell you that one i don't support. i don't well then listen to the whole interview she said we want to be civil but what she's saying is when we're being dealt with in a way that's uncivil when the rules are being broken you know bill clinton famously said it's better to be strong and wrong versus weak and right and i think what she was saying is we democrats have been we can write and we can't do that anymore that's what she's talking about this notion that she's suggesting that people be uncivil again is wildly out of context please i totally have viewers what's not out

of context that isn't poor by the way she did ok. the democrats that is what it is not just one letter in the seat in a really really nice warm fuzzy things and now they're going to play tough go ahead christopher. i was going to say first off it is hilarious for us for us to pretend the democrats have always been so civil look it was hillary clinton who took the unprecedented step of actually running not just against donald trump but it's running against the people who supported donald trump never before have we had a major presidential candidate campaigning against voters not against her opponent not against his policy won by the kids millions she was by through doing press it and. she's not president i know you guys are so upset about the rules but every time we win you guys want to change the rules here's what i would recommend you do i would recommend that you guys not try to outrun trump because you're never going to be valuable do it sort of really really want to have

a discussion about the policy that's fine that's just like the questions i sent out through my producers as a asymmetrical thing this is what donald trump and that's does and the democrats don't understand can't comprehend it and don't know how to fight back against it ok . it's also about job in washington here i mean if you want to talk about civility i'd like to know what brett kavanaugh its opinion about what civility is in washington today go ahead. well i'll just start by injecting my own opinion is that civility really is dead here and twenty eight thousand in the united states i as i've traveled the country since two thousand and sixteen i've just found pockets where people seem to be more than just angry they literally feel like they've been wronged and something needs to be done about it and i see that on both sides i'm a centrist at heart and what i saw with these cavanaugh hearings and essentially the confirmation was just all that coming to the surface again a very visceral response from both sides and people just not willing to see the

gray area here this was tough for two people dr christine blasi forward and judge kavanaugh. undeniably judge kavanaugh want out he is now a justice on the highest court in our land and he was able to prevail but you know republicans are willing to leave it alone they're sort of saying you sullied the good name of a man who worked his whole life for this democrats are stomping mad feeling like you know this is just the worst thing that could happen in our lifetimes i'm sitting here saying when are we have the next you know sort of like a demigod around there let's just admit it and i couldn't be further from supporting this president but look the thing to me is i understand that these people felt depressed they felt like donald trump offered them something and offered them so lucian's to their woes now that's remains yet to be seen right now in this moment the economy's doing great we know this may not last forever but people in my home state of west virginia felt like they wanted something else and clintonian policies and they just didn't feel that hillary clinton like i did

really could relate to the plight of the average american woman because she'd been out of touch with that for a while now the great irony there is that donald trump with his billionaire commodes in trump tower. you know looked like he was the guy if you asked me could it really relate to the average west virginian either but we have to understand all the points we have to take all point and that's what america is that its core is when we listen to each other and come together to craft solutions when i was. capitol hill is an aid things only get done when you work with the other side in this moment i was so disappointed to see democrats do you're on the judiciary committee acting the way they did during the kavanagh hearings because it was it was pure theater and this is what we're doing we're doing a disservice to american people when we get on platforms and just talk about really again the ugly side of things let's talk about what we can and you know what i mean the economy is doing right now and i'm happy for that it's very you know richard it's really interesting apparently over and over at c.n.n. an embassy in d.c.

you can't use the word mob right now when referring to the lot of the protests violent protests that we've seen over the last few weeks here but that's the difference between the two americas right now it's in the eye of beholder some people say it's a protest other people say it's a mom getting back to it nina said how do we how do we bridge that gap because i look at fox is coverage of it and it certainly looks like a mob to me richard go ahead. so again donald trump is in fox are using this mob notion because the always need and other mess thirteen it would be alexandria ocasio cortez of donald trump could pronounce her name so it's max you look at it it's hillary clinton talk about locking her up locking her up so many people around donald trump his campaign are going to jail and but so they talk about the mob because they need and there's something to scare people with well the mob they have to worry about are the mobs of democrats who went to the polls during the primaries and look like they're going to be coming out of the general election and that's the mob that i think trump and fox need to worry about yeah but you know let me go to

christopher before we go to the break here but that's what they said about the tea party didn't they were right and that was no one i mean one of the last is the one you saw where you saw the. when you saw that too when you saw the tea party would when you saw the tea party gathering and being upset about the policies of barack obama and what was happening in washington we heard about how awful the tea party was and how it was a mob and now we have actual mobs out there banging on the doors of the supreme court. we're throwing things at people attacking people we're seeing violence and we're not supposed to call it a mob it's pure gaslighting be honest about what it is it's ugly it's absolutely ugly right and we shouldn't be trying to reach out beyond our to it and you turn to i got to go to i got to go to a hard break here after our short break we'll continue our discussion on whether the mob rules state with r.t. .

you know world of big partisan. and conspiracies it's time to wake up to be deeper to hit the stories that mainstream media refuses to tell more than ever we need to be smart we need to stop slamming the door. and shouting past each other it's time for critical thinking it's time to fight for the middle for the truth the time is now we're watching closely watching the hawks. you need to let the audience you need to let people decide what is the relevant to them you don't need to filter he self censoring so john author self censored himself he believed he knew better he believed he do with what the needs were of these folks and that self-censorship which is such a step and this is completely wrong and this is why we have been sleepwalking into the next financial crisis how john author has been

a gonzo journalist have you been a property a new a journalist and you not so censor themselves as this next crisis unfolds people would be better prepared to deal with it but they won't be because of the failure of fake journalists like johnson. welcome back to cross talk where all things are considered i'm peter lavelle to remind you we're discussing whether the mob rule. let's go back to remain in washington one of the things that's come out from this whole spectacle i would call it because it was pure theater and it was really quite disgusting and i think you know i can and i can agree or variety of reasons why it was disgusting and fair about that there but you know how were the how are the american people supposed to accept this because it seems like it's you know not

just chaos on one side but it the entire political process is here i know richard for example has been very critical of the electoral college that's a fair point but it's part of our system it's what we have right now can we have a normal conversation say wow it's kind of a two hundred years ago when the country was very different and maybe we should date our institutions here i'm not saying should be done because it weren't then you just have these archipelagos blue archipelagos on the west coast on the east coast and they'd run the country that's not the whole country but i'm open to a discussion but we know here that go ahead. well the middle of the country is why i think we have donald trump entirely is because there were mistakes made by the clinton campaign and sort of discarding those states the fly over states right and when you discard and dismiss exactly some of america's you just don't understand you don't understand what it's going to take to really bridge us and bring us together so what i'm going to say about this is that yes this moment is tough for

all of us i think especially as a woman in two thousand and eighteen i just i was a very young girl during need to helen clarence thomas but i thought we were better than that i would thought we were better than talking about this stuff in a public forum and having people really just lay into people for what they're feeling because we talk about feelings a lot and being careful about you know respecting each other's feelings in a modern democracy what we saw was just completely disgusting on both sides i had mentioned what i saw from democrats performing what i thought was just art in motion but look republicans were also at fault lindsey graham the tone he took and for me i supported judge kavanaugh until i saw him appear before the senate judiciary committee after dr four and i thought his i question his temperament when he said what goes around comes around that really scared me know just is at least the ones that he said on the land shouldn't talk like that that's what's so fascinating about this because i thought cavanagh's presentation was spot on some

of the great ones some of the greatest public speaking in my life time a man defended his good name i thought it was remarkable let me go to richard here richard a lot of people wounded over to an ok i don't want to talk about that comment on the whole thing because i have a real question for you i think a good one ok i mean you've been on this program critical of the electoral college we have some democrats leading democrats questioning the legitimacy of the supreme court right now a lot of people on the conservative side would say this is what you liberals do you want to break down and destroy institutions you can't control ok how do you react to that. so the last two republican presidents both of whom got fewer votes and dollars from case way fewer votes than their competitors are responsible for four of the nine justices on the supreme court did they win the electoral college they did i will stipulate that we can be is it fair to say the american public voted for donald trump to do x.

no because most people voted for hillary clinton or jule styne who was even more liberal or a lot of them voted for gary johnson who agreed with clinton's time so i would say way more than half of the people voted for the policy is quite the opposite of donald trump so it is you know we've got a one man they have a constitutional amendment to change electoral college know why because right now seventeen percent of the u.s. public represented in the senate by these small states can basically get judges confirmed they make up fifty one of the senators ok and but they would you also need them to get a change electoral college that's just not going to happen so democrats aren't braying at the moon to change the electoral college they would like to see more people vote counting as opposed to fewer but the reality is what it is that hillary ignore certain states and miss kind of campaign of course she made mistakes that the russians and komi voter suppression all that help that didn't help her either

ok all right we're still waiting for that big report ok anyway christopher and can i mean richard comes on this program very often and i consider him a friend ok so i'm not dismissive of him but you know again you know it's like the liberals moving the goalposts post all the time here i don't care but it's the administration and it's immaterial who won the popular vote because we have the electoral college it doesn't matter ok that's the rule to seventy you win ok nothing else matters here so again you know this perception if you don't like the institution how it works it doesn't work for you because you want to. so are your dismissive of it oh you want to change it or get rid of it go ahead christopher well and by the way that's what that we've seen from democrats and first off donald trump won seven of the ten largest states in the country so this idea that he only won because of west virginia and kansas is ridiculous secondly we've heard that ok it's getting a little bit more energized the kavanaugh thing certainly energized

a lot of people for me personally it was one of the most horrific thing public spectacles i've ever seen in my life i could not believe my eyes it was so horrifically horrible is so many different ways christopher. yeah i would say one thing if this election were held in july democrats would have picked up sixty to seventy seats in the house it would been a complete and total wipeout the democrats can't get any more juice out of that lemon essential either most voters were as motivated as they could possibly the cabinet hearings were a complete and total political mis played by democrats i talk to campaigns all across the country republicans are seeing a surge in enthusiasm they're seeing motivated republicans something that by the way not many republican voters have been motivated yeah it's almost not good by the way i don't damage the moron that's almost an oxymoron imo to motivated republicans . right now yeah absolutely like yeah i was going to say look republican voters are motivated by trump and trump space is not motivated to go out and elect a whole lot of republicans in the house and the senate who quite frankly haven't

done a good job of pushing the president's america very good job in the kavanagh hearings motivated and mobilized people i'm telling you i'm seeing it all across the country from campaigns i'm talking to where they are getting inundated with volunteers people who've been sitting on the sidelines who are finally stepping up and see what is really at stake in this election and i will tell you this much if the democrats win back the house in november you can guarantee donald trump gets reelected in two thousand and twenty it is the absolute best thing for the president's reelection is a speaker pelosi. that's a rigid thought about they're going to be what he was then i want to go see you last minute go to bury him on. he really wants donald trump wants democrat take over the house and he can blame it on a polo say ok let's be honest and i will i just want to lay it out here donald trump is not a republican republican donald. and i agree that for himself and what has happened is that americans across the country felt the energy i remember driving in two thousand and sixteen and getting nervous when i was working against the president

and again i'm a lifelong republican what i thought hand made signs in southwestern virginia i mean these were not signs distributed by the campaign from new york these were signs that were painted by. supporters i mean this is this was a movement and i think now america is grappling with like what do we do with this guy that is shaking things up in such a way that it's scary to those of us who really care about institutions and the freedom of the press and other such things that he seems to sometimes in danger but he is not all bad and i don't know that we can ever get to that moment where the left can even acknowledge some good that he's done because we're just so divided so here we are in a moment where we're going to see what happens with the midterms but one thing will determine exactly you to vote it's going to come through peter we'll see the midterms many thanks to my guests in washington and thanks to our viewers for watching us here dorothy see you next time and remember crosstalk.

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