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they chose that border. and the terrorist organizations that are in camps in that site i mean what i find quite extraordinary is that in boeing's written report of course the blame is laid squarely at the fate of the syrian government in the syrian state whilst ignoring the fact that all areas that have been previously liberated by the syrian forces and its allies now are witness to the peace and stability that syria had prior to two thousand and eleven prior to this manufactured our pricing. refugees are returning home in their droves from lebanon from neighboring countries jordan is discussing the opening of trade borders in the south so we're seeing a revival of syria in those liberated areas but also additionally to that of course the terrorist groups that were basically about to eat it from the liberated areas have all ended up in adelaide but somehow this fact is basically eradicated by the
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b.b.c. report the written report by by and lose your defense told us this week that the u.k. is bombing syria every day the latest figures they've given us a list dyess motorcyclists and so forth i knew that's a little further away from where you be maybe in the student syria would your understanding of what british taxpayer paid paveway bring certain pelf missiles are doing for british protection we have a history of the u.s. coalition targeting the syrian arab army forces that are battling terrorism inside syria say their dog isis. yes of course they say that but in september two thousand and sixteen let's not forget the r.a.f. with involved with its report your own in the u.s. coalition bombing of syrian arab army forces that massacred seventy two of those forces and enabled the advances of isis interest to teach it positions that threatened civilians and daughters or let's also not forget that while the british and id is claiming to be targeting ice. as is the u.s.
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coalition there is isis fighters came in from the east from the direction of us military base and massacred two hundred seventy civilians while they lay sleeping in this way the province both in the countryside and in the city itself how did those isis terrorists manage to cross bost areas desert plains and open land without being detected and without being stopped by the u.s. coalition and without being bombed by the british and modi as they're claiming how did that massacre happen and why also did the b.b.c. not report upon that massacre jeremy bowen was just in syria he visited he did not visit the scene of one of the bloodiest massacres of the eight year war neither did channel four neither did any of the media entities in the u.k. that i'm aware of why was this massacre ignored is it because there is clear
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between the u.s. coalition and the isis forces in an attempt to destabilize syria in venice a game to the british media they support has does the british government support the white helmet along with the jokes foundation here and of course israel i understand you in syria talk to a white helmet leader on the ground what did he tell you yeah i mean basically during part of my trip by and the city of. in fact and men she and the alomari mosque which of course was the scene of the early reports over the so-called uprising in syria that our ballot is an interesting situation this is an area still under control of the armed groups or certain armed groups that have not accepted reconciliation but who are working on the go shiite in with the syrian government with the russian military places current tools so we entered an area where. still under the control of those armed groups that i mentioned we entered
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a functioning white helmet center now what was interesting is the presumption by those white helmets was that because i was british i was sympathetic to that course so the conversation immediately turned to their funding the fact that made a rescue. ahead of the white home it said turned off the funding to this group in the last six months funding previously by the way that each individual working for the white home it's received one hundred fifty dollars a month that was information was given to me by these white helmets which slightly negates their claims people and say is it also is probably three times the solder area of a syrian arab army soldier fighting to defend their people in that country inside syria. but moving forward what one of the white helmet in fact the leader of the data center told me was that the white helmets who left with the special expedition by. were led by israel and crossed three they could nature
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security fence into the occupy syrian territory of the golan heights so into israeli occupied territory and then on to jordan is what i was told around fifty percent were actually terrorist leaders most recent leaders and isis fighters coming in from the yarmouk basin so between eight hundred to one thousand numbers vary depending on who is talking to me but laughed by the special evacuation that was initiated by canada or i believe. all of these of course some have been resettled now in the u.k. there is huge secrecy over those that have entered the u.k. and where they are being resettled i would question whether the british government is repeating what it has done in the past giving special resettlement programs to possible terrorist assets who've been operating on their behalf inside syria as a. as they did to salmonella bady in two thousand and fourteen from libya who then
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carried out the manchester bombing in two thousand and seventeen. but what the white helmets also told in course in an effort to elicit sympathy a pro of their cause they told me that while they were not affiliated to us for front despite the fact that their center was actually in a nurse or a front complex the nurse for front headquarters were directly next door to the white house center that i visited they told us that while they had no if any ation to us for a front it was very likely that every other white helmick group in syria did have affiliations in us for front were led by you know sort of front militants but of course they had no for the ation and they should be considered for funding and financing by the british government now what is extraordinary also is that this white helmet group was functioning on the syrian government's really control let's
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say of this area which again the gate the mess that was being put out. and the p.r. agencies that run the narrative for the white helmets that the syrian government would target the white helmets and was a threat to the white helmets so the fact that this group was able to function despite the syrian government retaking control of much of the area where they were working. contradicts that argument the foreign secretary once calls them modern here is right son of the head of the white helmets of course told this program the north of italy eighty two. when you speak of people being resettled in this country and recalling the area on the ground a concert disaster in manchester what do you think of the fact that child refugees are not being there's a child to a refugee camp of four hundred eighty people i asked juries of may i hear about three thousand child or refugees from cali we're living in your implication is.
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people that could cause harm here in britain at the expense of living in child refugees who have a real reasons for british protection when you're talking about the british government giving emergency resettlement to the white helmets while ignoring the plight of thousands of children they've also ignored the plight fixes and translated from basra and they're out who were left to be hunted down by the death squads or in afghanistan fixes and translators who are also later murdered a yemeni translator and fixer has very recently applied for a visa to the british government's bailout to come to the u.k. only for training and that these are his being refused this is sheer hypocrisy from the british government and resettling what basically could potentially be another threat to the british public on british soil while ignoring the humanitarian plight of thousands of children who fled the war that has been incubated fermented and
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imposed upon syria by the british government in the first place but as a really thank you. after the break why did the british fire engine end up being used by al qaeda linked groups in syria and what is the state of fire response of britain one hundred years today since the founding of the fire brigades union and is the u.k. troubling the low when it comes to climate change as the world quickens its space all the civil coming up about to a going underground. you need to lead the audience you need to let people decide what is the relevant to them you don't need to filter he self censoring so john author self censorship self he believed he knew better he believed to do with what the names were of these folks and that self-censorship which is such a step and this is completely wrong and this is why we have been sleepwalking into the next financial crisis had john authors been a gonzo journalist had he been
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a property of new age journalist as he had he had he not self-centered himself as this next crisis unfolds people would be better prepared to deal with it but they won't be because of the failure of fake journals like often. when a loved one is murdered it's natural to seek the death penalty for the murderer i would prefer it mean in the death penalty just because i think that's the fair thing the right thing research shows that for every nine executions one convict is found innocent the idea that we were executing innocent people was terrifying news just move the arrogant and that we're even many victims' families want the death penalty to be a mole and the reason we have to keep the death penalty here is because that's what murder victims' families what that's going to give them peace that's going to give them justice and we come in and say. not quite enough we've been through this this
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isn't the way. this is crude oil. so they need to actually physically pulled it out of the ground you would have well well. there's a lot of money with the oil and with that comes. a lot of a lot of people from all over the country. if you don't make a hundred thousand dollars a year. as a minimum there's an issue. here in india. they were told sixty dollars a day it's hard work for the workers not used to work and so they want to relieve their stress of how do they relieve their stress these may move that outweigh that
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comfort that. people have been murdered up here people can raise their massive drug issues up here we have a boom you have everything else that comes along with money. you cannot operate as united nations this is not just one run but you n.d.p. world health organization and in fact other international organizations like the international committee of the red cross you cannot work in a place like gonzo with pragmatic cooperation with the local storage fees which are hamas in this case here on or has been for most of the last few years. welcome back to the emergency services now tourism a says that austerity is over but when reid's allayed today to mark the seventeen yuri the five brigades union in
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london cuts will be on the minds of those who risk their lives for us. safety joining me is general secretary of britain's fire brigades union match rak webb thanks for coming back on to tell me about today's teenie in a year where they've been under attack of aggression fail except for further cuts perhaps despite the us territory announcement after the loss of eleven thousand jobs in twenty two yeah it is a very very tough time for the us and for firefights is despite what prime ministers is still very much in the fire service we've got cuts taking place as we speak cuts planned for the next few years but it's still being squeezed but this comes in the time of all seventeen hundred years ago firefighters formed the first independent trade union for firefighters in the u.k. and that's something celebrate for us you know that we've been around for a hundred years we've fought for the rights of firefighters but we also played a big part in fighting to improve public safety in britain in workplaces in homes
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in public space and the hundred years takes in kind of the history of this country in a way over that period i mean there there's obviously the blitz the blitz was a huge turning point for the fire service because it was when people in after the join spanish civil war the bombing of going into and people began to wake up the idea that there would be bombing on a large scale from the air in events of any war and the fire would be used as a weapon so the fire as it was had to be massively expanded for us is a spurious small union at the time we gauged not discussion and the union grow the union tried to as a side as well as defending the rights of firefights is raise issues about public policy and then probably more recently we've come under a lot more attack and i mean i want to get on to more contemporary matters but you mentioned the safety standards fight by the if you sometimes in the face presumably of opposition from big private interests whether furniture or. to fight several
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phases what one in the in the fifty's and sixty's. about safety in the workplace when what people have now fire escapes far chained signs state fire drills all those things that didn't exist and we had some terrible terrible fires in the fifty's and sixty's in factories and workplaces and then we in the nineteen eighties after a whole series of deaths in particular children in domestic five we began to look at what was in furniture an issue around from field furniture and demanded regulation around that and face a lot of opposition at that song from then tory government and from plainly commercial interests who didn't want regulation of what they were put into furnish what we we won successes and and the people in their homes are a lot safer as a result of that campaign albeit that when the head of the police federation comes in this program and talks about creeping privatisation of law enforcement when
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people from the national health service say the emergency ambulance services they talk about grieving privatisation of your industry your emergency service is not so affected by ideological privatisation i think people would be surprised at the sorts of things that happened so we had a world renowned fos it was college in the most and gloucestershire that is now privatized and run by capita which i think people would be shocked at the fire service itself doesn't mean prophesies but bits of the fossils have been progress on this so that's cleaning provision by increasing the training so we have the training to pollen in the largest fosters in england to london fire brigade has been privatized the fleet money will make profit out of training new members yes companies and that's not everywhere but in a number of services of now privatized the training we now have privatized management of the fleet by the fire engines so again in a number of fire services including in london that has been progress even the provision of the firefighters equipment whether it's ladders. in some cases. and
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privatized even in some cases the fire kit that you see people wearing on the screens behind us for example some of that has been privatized expect control in government to bring that under democratic control again what we would hope to should be very much part of the plane some disastrous we had the case in relation to the london fire brigade where a firm that run and owned all the fire engines in london i went bankrupt effectively and ended up being sold for two pounds and you think of the risk of that so the people of london all the fire engines in london not owned by the london fog owned by a private company that but then subjects of commercial pressures and ends up being sold for two pounds is lunacy ridiculous you know what's it like for your members hearing this ongoing inquiry into the worst bloke since since i guess the blitz. commission that he called and she said nothing would be changed in response to
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a grand catastrophe today and all procedures were followed on the first point the process has been very difficult i think it's very difficult for everyone involved whether it's the fire fights is all the debris to survive as the relatives it's in the local communities a very very painful process firefights is. reliving the worst day of their lives in terms of what clearly are lessons that need to be learned i mean i thought i heard what tony cotton said i think in every emergency incident firefighters will learn and adapt to what they do in the next incident as a result of what they've done the london fire brigade itself has actually altered its plans for responding to harras fires post grenfell so they have made changes post grenfell we think there needs to be a major national discussion we see there have been changes to the. territory has been one of the things the f.b.i. has been campaigning on one thing i wanted to ask. the cuts were made because we
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had to bail out the banks in the city of london but from our. if we can see these tall buildings to all of them grand fell your members are going to be ok in saving bankers from fires with equipment and all the rest of the numbers of members that are being cut because arguably of the actions of people in the city of london. people very sharply that. we're paying the price for bailing out the banks and i think our members pensions have been it's at the pipe has been a chop the jobs have been it's at so that's i think the point is some can very well with lots and lots of people the city of london i think and you compare that with the grenfell what you see in the city of london all very expensive buildings with very modern fire engineering systems in place and clearly with forms of evacuation that. means of evacuation and escape that didn't exist a grumble tower that says something about the society we live in and policy and regulation and about council housing and how it's treated well just one final
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question we had a journalist has been on the ground in syria and she's tweeted a picture of a british fire engine and another one of fire we support syrians by donating equipment that is used by the syrian civil defense the white helmets that has helped save over fifty thousand lives in syria's red salah head of the white helmets that some people are linking to groups where it is the fire service helping al qaeda in syria i'm not aware of the picture you just shown it may i mean from the fire brigades union we have done international solidarity we've taken foreign just a palestine for example we. segmented into syria and we would be very careful about the political sensitivities around nothing that's a question for the london fire brigade. if indeed that's what they've gone happy one hundred years merak thank you very much. this month minority government needed to raise a maze own environment secretary warned the new deal bricks it would be disruptive
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to the environment but even without brakes it was the un intergovernmental panel on climate change telling the truth when it warned the world has twelve years to reverse transform nations that could spell the end of the human species joining me now is greg ajah clean vehicles director at the european federation for transport and environment joins me via skype from brussels greg thanks. inning us a time for celebration presumably there that even mainstream media finally awoke to the i.p.c.c. idea that policy needs urgent change if we are to be alive as a species i don't think it's a time celebration twelve years say sequoias asian but i think it's very positive that it was a good response more now and it sure is that there is a really constructive action. to match short of actually follow through and make sure that we really do start to prosecutions. the i.p.c.c. show the media already some people are saying there why is it the world wildlife
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fund in twenty zero seven said we had five years the u.n. climate boss warmer climate was christiana figueres last year said we had three years and then this week we have twelve years to understand that there is uncertain . but it could be pointing in the same direction that we need to make incredibly rapid changes to our society to cause and use fossil fuels in order as we sure that we he lied to achieve just why mahathir griese of war because if we go the consequence of sooty all we can. show is very severe whether or not it's five years or twelve years it requires action so that now i know you specialize in vehicle transportation effects on the climate of the communist party in china whence a ban on all for so fuel cars as early as twenty twenty five how are things going in the european union but actually many countries in europe in new york do similar
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overseas denmark proposed twenty third see the netherlands a similar don't promise of the you say suggesting twenty four c. perfectly phase out of whole combustion and you will but even then look there is less than trying as a day why is it that the country. in europe one another five years and this in the context of course of that i.p.c.c. report giving the call in twelve years as a profile event of democracy in europe and the buyout of government but they are in china for remembrance at least sometimes things both a little longer but even the shell oil c.e.o. says it should be earlier what exactly is going on in the european union that they want to delay this fundamental change in vehicle transportation fuel but what we have a year is not one of the powerful incumbent industries the coal industry you know
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many of the youths of mostly germany for our us i think it's fine and i think the challenge that we face here europe is to really sway governs a neat crissy steps to cause the missions which are often considered to be pounds to the interests of their industries that if you do that you actually create more jobs for the joke you lose but people are often broke and i'm sure your organization makes that case again and again but you just contrasted communist china with the democratic european union in yet you're talking about incumbent industry do you do you basically mean undemocratic being i think we recognize that there is enormous power in common industries across europe they do have. over the decisions we go home and side of us so close to our own government that they're right there or a dot com or both when we started covering on this program those statistics showing
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forty thousand dead a year because of air pollution so we had to read it twice because i think we were the first people to cover that when they first came out the statistic that's more than thirty nine eleventh's here are you surprised that statistics like that don't make that much more of an impact on policy or is that again these income. been destress the new series has grown. but it found out that the europe we've been blighted by for the air pollution yeah cities is as a result of use of these all. those diesel engines. yes the fire and so i go pollution and they are legally inspired to do that because your group is making clear all these people are dying we're still talking about action and you're in the belly of the beast arguably in brussels what are these incumbent industries doing taking people out to european politicians of a dinner in michelin starred restaurants i mean how how does this work i think it
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was you know right in your lives but what these companies have enormous political influence of that's off the home. of the prime ministers of the chance of us i mean sure their interests are represented at the very top echelons of this is. exactly the same is true in the european commission. off of your mission often decisions of my which our own troops the evidence because that's what our industry of all our stories want to see happen slow progress and what do you say to these leaders and these politicians when they tell you that some of these down some of these leaders to make sure the. reg ochoa thank you and that's it for the show will be back on monday just the two award winning journalist and author charles boss about one hundred years of secret need to nation was until then keep it up presidential media will be back on monday seven years to the day global
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protests against neoliberalism erupted from barcelona to berlin cairo to cork in a weapon lease penned in demonstrators the stink of wiki leaks founder julian assange just st paul's cathedral. mean if. this is crude oil. soon they need to actually physically hold it out of the ground you would have well well well well well. there's a lot of money with the oil and with that comes. a lot of a lot of people from all over the country. if you don't make a hundred thousand dollars a year. as a minimum there's an issue. here in india. they were told
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sixty dollars a day hard work for oil workers not used to work and so they want to relieve their stress of how do they relieve their stress these men move back out like his men believe that comfort these men needs that. people have been murdered up here people can raise their massive drug issues up here give a boom you have everything else that comes along with money. when a loved one is murder it's natural to seek the death penalty for the murder i would prefer it be to limit death penalty just because i think that's the fair thing the right thing research shows that for every nine executions one convict is found innocent the idea that we were executing innocent people is terrifying those just mooned the present and that we want even many of the times families want the death
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penalty to be abolished the reason we have to keep the death penalty here is because that's what murder victims' families what that's going to give them peace that's going to give them justice and we come in saying. not quite enough we've been through this this isn't the way. i know i still don't pound out coming up out of paying on time but i am told for enough. no more i. am only.

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