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leader allegedly doing terrorists and is the u.k. fire brigades union joins one hundred we speak with the general secretary about the story comes putting his members at risk. driesum ignored the bank of bailouts and said labor spending was the problem stan for the jets that border. and the terrorist organizations that are in camps in that site i mean what i find quite extraordinary is that in boeing's written report of course the blame is laid squarely at the fate of the syrian government in the syrian state whilst ignoring the fact that all areas that have been previously liberated by the syrian forces and its allies now are witness to the peace and stability that syria had prior to two thousand and eleven prior to this manufactured our pricing. refugees are returning home in their droves from lebanon from neighboring countries jordan is discussing the opening of trade borders in the south so we're seeing
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a revival of syria in those liberated areas but also additionally to that of course the terrorist groups that were basically about to ated from the liberated areas have all ended up in adelaide but somehow this fact is basically eradicated by the b.b.c. report the written report by they've given us a list dyess motorcyclists and so forth i knew that's a little further away from where you would be maybe in the student syria what's your understanding of what british taxpayer paid paveway british student pelf missiles are doing for british protection are we have a history of the u.s. coalition targeting the syrian arab army forces that are battling terrorism inside syria say that our businesses. yes of course they say that but in september two thousand and sixteen let's not forget the r.a.f. with involved with its report your own in the u.s. coalition bombing of syrian arab army forces that massacred seventy two of those forces and enabled they had. conses of isis into strategic positions that
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threatened civilians and doubters or let's also not forget that while the british he is claiming to be targeting isis as is the us coalition there is isis fighters came in from the east from the direction of u.s. military base and massacred two hundred seventy civilians while they lay sleeping in this way the province both in the countryside and in the city itself how did those isis terrorists manage to cross bost areas desert plains and open land without being detected and without being stopped by the u.s. coalition and without being bombed by the british see as they're claiming how did that massacre happen and why also did the b.b.c. not report upon that massacre jeremy bowen was just in syria he visited he did not visit the scene of one of the bloodiest massacres of the eight year war neither did
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channel four neither did any of the media entities and u.k. that i'm aware of why was this massacre ignored is it because there is clearly between the u.s. coalition and the isis forces in an attempt to destabilize syria in venice again to the british media they support has does the british government support the white helmet along with the joke oxidation here and of course israel i understand you in syria talked to a white helmet leader on the ground what did he tell you yeah i mean basically during part of my trip by and the city of. in fact and men share and they alomari mosque which of course was the scene of the early reports over the so-called uprising in syria that our ballot is an interesting situation this is an area still under control of the armed groups or certain armed groups that have not . accepted reconciliation but who are working on negotiating with the syrian
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government with the russian military police his current tools so we entered an area which is still under the control of those groups that i've mentioned we entered a functioning white helmet center now what was interesting is the presumption by those white helmets was that because i was british i was sympathetic to that course so the conversation immediately turned to their funding the fact that made a rescue. the head of the white home it said turned off the funding to this group in the last six months funding previously by the way that each individual working for the white home it's received one hundred fifty dollars a month that was information was given to me by these white helmets which slightly negates their claims people and say is it also is probably three times the solder area of a syrian arab army soldier fighting to defend their people in that country inside syria. but moving forward one of the white helmet in fact the leader of the data
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center told me was that the white helmets who left with the special expedition by. were led by israel and crossed three they could nature security fence into the occupy syrian territory of the golan heights so into israeli occupied territory and then on to jordan is what i was told around fifty percent were actually terrorist leaders know leaders and isis fighters coming in from the yarmouk basin so between eight hundred to one thousand numbers vary depending on who is talking to me but laughed by the special evacuation that was initiated by canada or i believe. all of these of course some have been resettled now in the u.k. there is huge secrecy over those that have entered the u.k. and where they are being resettled i would question whether the british government is repeating what it is. on in the past giving special resettlement programs to
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possible terrorist assets who've been operating on their behalf inside syria as of course they did to salmonella bady in two thousand and fourteen from libya who then carried out the manchester bombing in two thousand and seventeen. but what the white helmets also told in course in an effort to elicit sympathy a pro of their cause they told me that while they were not affiliated to us for a front despite the fact that their center was actually in a no sort of front complex than us for front headquarters were directly next door to the white house center that i visited they told those that while they had no if any ation to us for a front it was very likely that every other white helmick group in syria did have affiliations in us for front were led by you know sort of front militants but of course they had no for the ation and that they should be considered for funding and
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financing by the british government now what is extraordinary also is that this white helmet group was functioning under the syrian government's rican troll let's say if this area which again the gate the mess that was being put out. and the p.r. agencies that run the narrative for the white helmets that the syrian government would target the white helmets and was a threat to the white helmets so the fact that this group was able to function despite the syrian government retaking control of much of the area where they were working. contradicts that argument the foreign secretary once calls them modern here is right son of the head of the white helmets of course told this program the northern v.a. to do. when you speak of people being resettled in this country and recalling the area on the ground or going to disaster in manchester what do you think of the fact that child refugees are not being there's a child to refugee camp afford. and eighty people i asked the tourism
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a here about three thousand child or refugees from cali we're living in your implication is people that could cause harm here in britain at the expense of letting in child refugees who have real reasons for british protection when you're talking about the british government's giving emergency resettlement to the white how much while ignoring the plight of thousands of children they've also ignored the plight fixes and translated from basra and iraq who were left to be hunted down by the death squads or an afghanistan fixes and translators who are also later murdered a yemeni translator and fixer has very recently applied for a visa to the british government bailouts accompt the u.k. only for training and that visa has been refused this is sheer hypocrisy from the british government in resettling what basically could potentially be another threat to the british public on british soil while ignoring the humanitarian plight of
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thousands of children who fled the war that is being incubated from men said and imposed upon syria by the british government in the first place but as a really thank you. after the break why did a british fire engine end up being used by al-qaeda linked groups in syria and what is the stage of my response that britain one hundred years is today this is the founding of the fire brigades union and is the u.k. troubling along when it comes to climate change is the world quickens it's all the more coming out about to going underground. the way to the united states is dangerous for most of the illegal immigrants. there's a lot of sympathy but they want to become law. enthroned i wanted us to sum this up
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welcome back to the emergency services now to resume says that austerity is over but when wreaths are laid today to mark the sente noory of the fire brigades union in london cuts will be on the minds of those who risked their lives for us safety joining me is general secretary of britain's fire brigades union metric thanks for coming back on to tell me about today's teenie in a year where they've been under attack of a grand fail except for further cuts perhaps despite the us territory announcement after the loss of eleven thousand jobs since twenty two yeah it is a very very tough time for the fire service and for firefighters despite what prime ministers is still very much in the fire service we've got cuts taking place as we speak cuts planned for the next few years but it's still being squeezed but this comes in a time of awe seventeen hundred years ago firefighters formed the first independent trade union for firefighters in the u.k. and that's something celebrate for us you know that we've been around for
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a hundred years we've fought for the rights of firefighters but we also played a big part in fighting to improve public safety in britain in workplaces in homes in public space and the hundred years takes in kind of the history of this country in a way over that period i mean there there's obviously the blitz the blitz was a huge turning point for the fire service because it was when people in after the joint spanish civil war were the bombing of guernica and people began to wake up the idea that there would be bombing on a large scale from the air in events of any war and the fire would be used as a weapon so the fire as it was had to be massively expanded for us as a spree small union at the time we gauged in that discussion and the union grow the union try to as a society as well as defending the rights of firefighters is raise issues about public policy and then probably more recently we've come under a lot more attack and i mean i want to get on to. more contemporary matters but you
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mentioned the safety standards fight you sometimes in the face presumably of opposition from big private interests whether furniture are there. to fight several phases what one in the in the fifty's and sixty's about safety in the workplace when what people have now fire escapes far chained signs state fire drills all those things that didn't exist and we had some terrible terrible fires in the fifty's and sixty's in factories and workplaces and then we in the ninety eight season after a whole series of deaths in particular children in domestic far as we began to look at what was in furniture an issue around from field furniture and demanded regulation around that and face a lot of opposition at that sign from then tory government and from plainly commercial interests who didn't want regulation of what they were put into furnish what we we won successes and and the people in their homes are a lot safer as
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a result of that campaign albeit that when the head of the police federation comes in this program and talks about creeping privatisation of law enforcement when people from the national health service say the emergency ambulance services they talk about grieving privatisation of your industry your emergency service is not so affected by ideological privatisation i think people would be surprised at the sorts of things that happened so we had a world renowned for his college at mort's in the most and gloucestershire that is now privatized and run by capita which i think people would be shocked at the fire service itself hasn't been prophesies but bits of the fossil as have been products on the so that's cleaning provision by increasing the training so we have to train the pollen in the largest fosters in england to london fire brigade has been privatized the fleet money will make profit out of training new members yes companies and that's not everywhere but in a number of services of now privatized the training. we now have privatized
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management of the fleet by the fire engines so again in a number of fossils including in london that has been progress even the provision of the firefighters equipment whether it's ladders how in some cases being privatized even in some cases the fire kit that you see people wearing on the screens behind us for example some of that has been privatized expect control with government to bring that under democratic control again what we would hope the that should be very much part of the some disastrous we had the case in relation to the london fire brigade where a firm that run and owned all the fire engines in london i went bankrupt effectively and ended up being sold for two pounds and you think of the risk of that so the people of london all the fire engines in london not owned by the london fog owned by a private company that but then subjects of commercial pressures and ends up being sold for two pounds is lunacy ridiculous you know what's it like for your members
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hearing this ongoing inquiry into the worst bloke since since i guess the blitz. commission. she said nothing would be changed in response to a grandfather catastrophe today and all procedures were followed on the first point the process has been very difficult i think it's very difficult for everyone involved whether it's the fire fights is all the debris to survive as the relatives it's in the local communities a very very painful process firefights is a real live in the worst day of their lives in terms of what clearly all lessons that need to be learned i mean i thought i heard what tony cotton said i think in every emergency incident firefighters will learn and adapt to what they do in the next incident as a result of what they've done the london fire brigade itself is actually altered its plans for responding to hamas fires post grenfell so they have made changes post grenfell we think there needs to be a. major national discussion obviously there have been changes to the. territory
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has been one of the things you have been campaigning on one thing i wanted to ask. the cuts were made because we had to bail out the banks in the city of london but from our office we can see these tall buildings to all of the ground felt your members are going to be ok in saving bankers from fire with equipment and all the rest of the numbers of members that are being cut because arguably the actions of people in the city of london well i think. people very sharply that we're paying the price for bailing out the banks and i think our members pensions have been it's at the pipe has been a chop the jobs have been it's at so that's i think the point is some can very well with lots and lots of people the city of london i think and you compare that with grenfell what you see in the city of london all very expensive buildings with very modern fire engineering systems in place and clearly with forms of evacuation the means of evacuation and escape that didn't exist
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a grenfell tower that says something about the society we live in and policy and regulation and about council housing and how it's treated well just one final question we had a journalist has been on the ground in syria and she's tweeted a picture of a british fire engine and there's a lot of fire we support syrians by donating equipment that is used by the syrian civil defense the white helmets that has helped save over fifty thousand lives in syria's red salah head of the white helmets that some people are linking do al qaeda linked groups where it is the fire service helping al qaeda in syria i'm not aware of the picture you've just shown it may i mean from the fire brigades union we have done international solidarity we've taken foreigners to palestine for example. and i think to syria and we would be very careful about the political sensitivities around nothing that's a question for the london fire brigade. if indeed that's what they've done happy one hundred years maverick. thank you very much. this month minority
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government needed to resume his own environment secretary warned that the new deal bricks it would be disruptive to the environment but even without bricks it was the u.n. intergovernmental panel on climate change telling the truth when it warned the world has twelve years to reverse transform asians that could spell the end of the human species joining me now is greg archer clean vehicles director at the european federation for transport and environment joins me via skype from brussels greg thanks for joining us a time for celebration presumably there that even mainstream media finally awoke to the i.p.c.c. idea that policy needs urgent change if we're to be alive as a species i don't think it's a time for celebration twelve years saints acquires ocean but i think it's very. good response more now and is that there is a really constructive action from governments to make sure that they're followed through and made sure that we really do start to prosecutions. the i.p.c.c.
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show the media already some people are saying there why is it the world wildlife fund in twenty seven said we had five years the u.n. climate boss warmer climate cristiana for garrus last year said we had three years and then this week we have twelve years to understand that there is are certain. points in the same direction that we need to make incredibly rapid changes society so it cuts out and use fossil fuels it was we sure that we he lied to achieve just one and a half agrees of war because if we go the consequence of. all we can. show is very severe weather a lot it's five years or twelve years it requires action so that now i know you specialize in vehicle transportation effects on the climate. and the communist
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party in china wants a ban on all four so fuel cars as early as twenty twenty five how are things going in the european union but actually many countries in europe in. similar orses denmark proposed twenty third see the netherlands a similar don't france of the day suggesting twenty four c. very complete phase out of a whole combustion engine but even then look there is less than time as a day why is it that the countries in europe want another five years and this in the context of course all of that i.p.c.c. report giving the call in twelve years is a profile event of democracy in europe by the government but they are in china for a mess of these sometimes things don't work along but even the shell oil c.e.o. says it should be earlier what exactly is going on in the european union that they want to delay this fundamental change in vehicle transportation fuel but what we
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have a year is something none of the powerful incumbent industries the coal industry germany over you it's mostly germany for our us i think it's fine and i think the challenge that we face here in europe is to really sway got ones they need to see steps to cause the missions which are often considered to be pounds to the interests of their industries but if you do that you actually create more jobs for the joke you lose but people are often broke and i'm sure your organization makes that case again and again but you just contrast a communist china with the democratic european union in yet you're talking about incumbent industry do you do you basically mean undemocratic being if we recognize that there is enormous power in the common industries across europe they do have. the. over the decisions we go home and types so close to our government that
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they're right there or a dot com or both when we started covering on this program those statistics showing forty thousand dead a year because they have pollution and we had to read it twice because i think we were in the first people to cover that when they first came out that statistic that's more than thirteen nine eleven so here you surprised the statistics like that don't make that much more of an impact on policy or is that again these incumbent industries need serious growth. but it's undoubtedly in europe we've been blighted by poorly air pollution yeah cities is as a result of use of these all. those diesel engines with cheap best of breed you see fire and pollution and they're illegal aliens are to busy a group is making clear all these people are dying we're still talking about action
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and you're in the belly of the beast arguably in brussels what are these incumbent industries doing taking people out to european politicians of a dinner in mission restaurants i mean how how does this work i think it was you know all right and you did what we are but he's out even norma's political influence of that's off the home they have. the prime ministers of the chance of us and they made sure that their interests are represented at the very top echelons of this is. exactly the same is true in the european commission. off of your vision often decisions of my which are contrary to the evidence because that's what the current story of all our stories want to see happen slow progress and what do you say to these leaders and these politicians when they tell you that leads down some of these leaders to make sure the. office reg ochoa thank you and that. the show will be back on monday just speak to award winning journalist and
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author charles boss about one hundred years of secrets meant to nation was until then give it a try social media will be back on monday seven years to the day global protests against neoliberalism erupted from barcelona to bunin cairo to cork in it a good weapon lease pending demonstrators this move to wiki leaks founder julian assange just st paul's cathedral. when a loved one is murdered it's natural to seek the death penalty for the murder i would prefer it be known in the death penalty just because i think that's the fair thing the right thing research shows that for every nine executions one convict is found innocent the idea that we were executing innocent people was terrifying there was just no way to present and that we were even many of the times families want the
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death penalty to be abolished the reason we have to keep the death penalty here is because that's what murder victims' families what that's going to give them peace that's going to give them justice and we come in saying. not quite enough we've been through this this isn't the way. i've been saying the numbers mean something they matter the u.s. has over one trillion dollars in debt more than ten white collar crime families each dish. eighty five percent of global wealth you longs to be all for rich eight point six percent market saw thirty percent rise last year some with four hundred to five hundred three per second per second and bitcoin rose to twenty thousand dollars. china is building a two point one billion dollar a i industrial park but don't let the numbers overwhelm. you. number you need to
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