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cranor russia they have a common history they have come i would say cultural and religious but let's discuss does in detail when let me press you once more do you think russia current policy reserve in nato could really be described as containment i do consider that what i've been in in the very recent months sure is that russia on one side the east turning to work easier in order to create a stronger eastern bloc and didn't you can ask the west yes and death would be a first step to stop a large amount of the western counters to work toward a russian federation secondly the new generation of weapons the seer the president of russia for that he should do in the speech beginning of march he showed a new new weapons and that means a dem or nato is acting in order to establish a new meter the basis in sentence to euro or more of the now the cities are looking
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forward the new system of listing misses and so on the more this has no saying let's look at it as far as i understand from the russian point of view there is a big difference between containment as and now for it to contain to limit the spread of nato not only in the russian neighborhood but around the world and pure defense and trying to keep nader abate russia sees the main difference between those two actions but from what you're saying it looks like you believe russia is actually trying to deal with a low level of concrete way were to squinting meant containment is now creamy and don't bust on one side so to see it's unmarked it out because in the other side this is a very concrete step in action in order to stoke to war and the others are to do to step forward. this is a very concrete and those are military action and political action of course know who are the sky. seeing
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a lot about of the further potential step of nato in europe which would be the one of the former yugoslav republic of macedonia the last year montenegro joined and we had big troubles in montenegro huge discussion even the news of concerning the middle you can always turn the potential attempt to the life for me to do can only because he was in favor to join nato what does it mean today to join nato to join nato means for some countries this is an insurance policy but on the other side in may be part of nato means to have some benefits to an econo in benefits financial benefits also the fact that the county can rent some bases to the united states that would pay for this the western policy during the cold war was based on the notion of ideological income and compatibility with the soviet union there was a strong ideological factor there do you think russia ideologically also sees itself at odds with the west no i think that there is
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a different approach to life that is different culture. what is russia nowadays is russia. a democracy as we may consider any other western european country probably not to and russia that is a special democracy the school like this very often my opinion is that. the western european counties and nato counters they tended to emphasize the danger to rational represents in order to create an enemy that would use the five new further actions toward that that kind of me if somebody knows or russia. are we sure that of russia would like to invade the stone you have a lot to do to india i personally don't think so are we should. russia wanted to
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include you karim me if there was not a coupe in craning two thousand and fourteen that was allowed even by european counters in the european union this is the problem the problem is that sometimes we also have interference from the. western counties in the internal affairs of the former soviet republics and this is because this strategy of nato and of the western counties is to grow to include more counter losing their group in order to have a more broadly economic economic profit and benefits you mentioned there the crisis in ukraine i think we both will agree that it was precipitated by this very tenuous relationship between russia on one hand and nato on the air on another hand. both sides still blame one another for what happened but do you think internally at least has there been any reevaluation of what
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happened in ukraine and why it happened and what are the potential cause this is what we try. to who try to discuss because you opinion what is very interesting is what provoked the crisis of mainly there was a movement in a crane there was a movement the beginning of the new millennium it was the orange revolution a movement the. leading the count to two words of the west. but then there was a well be a new coalition was elected again. there was or there was a new position of the majority of the koreans but then i saw the news that the european union. had a wrong behavior in pinney's an international going to zeeshan this should be a neutral international organization well it is hard to be neutral when you. fear.
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your neighbor but. one interesting thing you said was the. european union was under power for many years the european union wasn't the path of an lodgment but just last march the european commission issued a white paper in which it described five possible scenarios for its future and none of them mansion either the integration of ukraine or the e.u. enlargement in general do you think that has crystallized over the last four years or do you think even before they might down in bounds that was more or less understood then the european officials who are very active during the night on process protest in encouraging that probably european sentiment was it were essentially misleading the ukrainians and the onus but they don't have evidence of this would be learning is to the on the diplomatic papers when we would have access to these i think that the. strongest senior g. very often between the european union and nato. need to.
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see the role of the prominent role of the united states of america and the united states they have the capacity to to make pressure on the other members of nato in order to go in in that in a direction and when they talk about dupion union i don't about to do kind of a propaganda that european union deed in the crane through the high representative for reforming policy which was lady catherine ashton when she went to maidan square with a little p. and flag to prove to dupion union but that was that the man you opinion are wrong behavior because european union should say to any candidate members we do not close the door so that if the counter is respect to the parade it was this but. we will
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not make sense in the internal affairs of the county in order to promote european union and to seduce the counter towards europe we have specially when you have a new intentional following up on that and actually accepting the country into the european union ukraine is now facing presidential elections and the political tensions in that country are pretty strong there are five declared candidates more than a dozen of possible candidates the incumbent president has a somewhat low rating if there is a political crisis another political crisis in ukraine say without in two thousand and nineteen do you think the european union would be just as eager to interfere in and take sides. his you know to these that is it big competition in the field of communications how do you communicate how do you make interference you have a lot of chances to do that i think the dupion union should be
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a bit slow down its. presence in this framework and should leave the county to decide so the democracy also means that the county should be free to take the best possible solution but it didn't turn eleventh there shouldn't be a lot of interference from outside but very often we do have the you know where well that some ukrainian politicians for example would want the european union to interfere actively to you know essentially endorse their political candidate saying let's wander doesn't mean to be part of the pm union it means a for many county means or disses a good opportunity it means good living standards i think example injury during the pieces it will do for to need you to become a b. to reach or because we will get some money from european union saw it is a good opportunity but what does it mean from the moral point of view that means to . of the european values and no they sure that in all the little peon member state
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there is the same european speed the same european cohere ukrainian definition to claim that they have that european spirit in fact they believe that they are at the forefront of defending the european no member of the sentence of a victorian call of each of the of the go when he said that we are a european county but we have the spatial relations with russia but when he said we are you will be an accounting means the worries you create easy in europe if we can see that you will goes from the atlantic ocean to the mon things. easily you boys russia then so part of russia is there but can we include a part of the russian do opinion to or does the russia wish to be part of dupion union we have to wait skeptically in front of this over this option the problem is that when we seduce a new members of a peon you know we should think about
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a consequence of this in the bailout the release of that counter with depleted use friends and partners such as russia and ukraine well too late for that i guess professor thought i have to take a short break now but we will be back in just a few moments stay tuned. you cannot operate as united nations this is not just one room but you are in d.p. world health organization and in fact other international organizations like the international committee of the red cross you cannot work in a place like gaza with pragmatic cooperation with the locals or to switch off hamas in this case here on or has been for most of the last few years.
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welcome back to all the party the fun of a lot a professor at dream yes university in italy professor speaking more broadly about transatlantic i think nothing tast friendship friendships more effectively than bickering about money and president trying seems to be very unequivocal about europe having to pay more to in that nato budget do you think is going to get what he wants from europe i'm not sure because of the economic crisis and take for instance the example of my county italy italy spends less than two percent of the g.d.p. for the defense a president who was asking that very clearly and absolutely understandable because the. goodies should be the principle of bargain sharing and of course we do not have the same financial cup ability than other states are the most important kountry is the most important g.d.p.
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of the world but there is a percentage so in generally think you should the police to think two percent of your g.d.p. is the sense now we are facing a huge crisis you need to lead there discussing in these days the new financial. moreover the new forces that are in the government and they probably is the the deliver some resources to the poor people that we call the. that the nuns and they know try to find the resources in order to maintain what they declare during the campaign because this is accordance course but. much to magic is mathematic and very often figures are figures and it's not easy to find these compared to the available resources now speaking about mathematics i learned recently to my own surprise. italy's real per capita g.d.p.
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is now lord and the euro while the euro zone experiment began in two thousand in one thousand nine hundred eight even greece has actually registered some growth but italy hasn't while this supposedly populous politician say that your hasn't delivered for italy don't they actually have a point this way and they want the last elections yes they have a point the people the general the people they feel to be who are concerning the chase power and but the problem is that in the last years we were affected by a huge world economic financial crisis and we had also to to put that in that would compare isn't we do the european crisis that we had asked of two thousand and five when the european constitution was rejected then we had the huge prizes india will soon know we do not really we do not really have
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a lot of resources. to deal to deliver to the defense of the to the military is as we may say and nearly often they tally and sadoon in the period of the cold war they were thinking that there is no need to invest a lot of money in defense because in any case we would be protected by the united states and by nato but this is exactly what the americans now do reject and say you cannot continue to survive like this and they have a point or now sometimes the current italian government is actually compared to the trumpet ministration in terms of a police staff one point three and i heard some european politicians are european very proud to express the same sentiment that you know we should just wave them out as we hope to wait outrank do you think that is a sustainable approach do you think that kind of those kind of political forces. temporary and a more permanent be honest i'm not
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a politician and i don't to support to this government or in order to go in there just an historian story chest just try to see to see things from in the project the point of view even do word the popular in the sometimes is a wrong word in my opinion we have a new political movements in europe we have to respect from the point of view is no to correct to just to define does movement as a property is that which means bopper is very often means extremist to know because of this movement to the they have success also because they represent to do we look of the population to prove to us in front of some through problems that we have we we have next year elections in the european free more we will see in part a meters and didn't need to improve the situation of the talian population as a whole will doesn't mean to improve the situation on the italian population really
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often means to create a new opportunities. for isn't leaving also when he says he will retire is lying angry to show us that. yes i think that it will be a commission meet may make the pressure on rome on this they are doing in debt. what is not acceptable from the principal point of view is that it will be an union should say what the government should do or not do well there is another european country that is facing not the same but how it's not about principles i'm talking about poland or which is. in a pretty frayed relationship. european commission and the european union as a whole how far do you think both warsaw and process i willing to take that dispute over principles whether the head this is a this is part of the mocha c i mean some things we have different opinion we must respect each other what is that then juggles is to say now you are not allowed to
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be part of the opinion anymore if you don't share the same principle this is of course it is a fundamental aspect but you have to understand how do they interpreted this in the local level so there should be those a bit of flexibility in the european union maybe not too much for exhibit but a bit of flexibility in some things we have different cultures in brussels we have the north koreans for which is quite a region and the sound in part of europe culture which is more flexible and the polish would agree is somewhere in the middle you know the polish are leaving me in a really interesting moment because a they also have their own culture sure just consider the ball and the walls are for many years is socially scone but also it was probably the only socially scone too had a very deep christian catholic feeling of relief and this mixed is
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very strange because it could be can see there is a paradox is in. there is no it comes out in the want to strength to do all the specific bowl issues identity in did the radio show to to fight against dupion union and to send messages i sometimes hear the poll say the brussels elites do not really practice what they preach they say it's about principles but they themselves are not always live up to those principles and i think that's very similar to how the russians framed their disagreements with europe before the ukrainian crisis which makes me wonder if you in the european union. we'll have to redefine how it sees itself and how it defines its principles in the face of both this external tensions and this internal defense that we're seeing from poland and to some extent from italy yes european union is now in the in a very interesting stage in the sense that the goal or no so if you look you know
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in becomes more and more difficult because the more european news and large itself the more we have more and more member is more and more and more difficult to find would say see no jean said the opinion breaks it would be a big defeat of the opinion that he's starting to have come to that that leaving do of the no deals on the european union that could represent a enough specked they could be followed by other countries in the future if they're not happy about the policy of that would be and you know so for the next elections next year of the it'll be unplanned them and the both of these of the peon you neal and they should do recall seriously we can see there they are approach to the international relations inside of european counters and which could be part of the flexibility that they can add to meet in order to avoid the explosion
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of the european well professor pelletier have to leave it there really appreciate your being with us today and thank you very much for your insights thank you do you encourage your peers to keep this conversation going on our social media pages and hope to hear again same place same time here on all the part. join me every thursday on the alex simon chill and i'll be speaking to guest of the world of politics sports this list i'm showbusiness i'll see you then.
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