but in point out that's not just facebook twitter also suspended the account so there is obvious collusion between the two companies so i mean what you have here is facebook in my opinion has put the final nail in their coffin we can look at that now as a big company but believe me in a few years facebook we're grette this disorderly millennial zur leaving in droves here. significance for you because it seems to me that there's an enormous amount of lucian going on here and it's the mainstream media that is cheering this along because they want their monopoly back they want to be able to push their competitors to the side because their ratings or way way down their business model is failing this is a big favor paper to the establishment are definitely and i think that's how it's evolved as well and i think you're right to point out that this was largely something that they will regret because when this purge of all alternative voices began in issue with so that said this tech companies are now established themselves

as this new minister of truth they essentially came after the media first so r.t. for one where they start too many police to get a few hits and then we saw that it began to talk internal enemies as well because they have american society become quite polarized so of course the conservatives began to complain that this very left leaning companies are now coming after them as well and censoring. censoring the you know the conservatives. again it continues and i think now they're going after both left and right so this is unbelievable opportunity offender in which you're taking this well i think we've said that i want to move on this program for many great humane expected to come from extreme left or from which to my right it came from the center where it was the least expect it and what their reaction let me call it.

for all my free fought project you know which had more than three million followers gun he says that this is a terms and i like that expression also i just follow but that's in the service and it's not in the service of democracy it is not in the service of ideas what it is is to narrow the field and where they have the facebook is injecting it so actually picking winners well i just love this expression. memory recall phrase book memory call it a lot of interesting articles a lot of interesting altos it is becoming what people call a digital native state you know people complain in a name you state decades well and then you state that would getting to you education no one would be against such a state but the more done ultraliberal name a state it doesn't go to eight in economically but it certainly watches out that

you will not be influenced by politically incorrect facebook and twitter and others they are determining what your values system should be they don't mandating it and they are punishing people they don't toe the line they are much more than a platform where you can place ideas there to turn their editors now their editors of social media of the social media space they are acting as publishers so they should be to fight as publishers not platforms that should not have the protection of platforms they should be responsible for what content goes up they should hire thousands of editors to moderate the content they should be liable to any types of lawsuits for the content they publish you can't have it both ways facebook and twitter in my mind are are finished there's a lot of alternatives coming up now gab is crushing twitter as far. as growth

twitter is losing users it is month to month if it wasn't for donald trump twitter would not be what it is today donald trump is all this twitter a lot of blood has to wonder if he has shares in the game but i wonder if this isn't a profound moment here in social media because it seems to me that this is you know when it was these things were first invented and it was kind of left of center everyone has a level playing field everyone can participate everyone's ideas will be except the face value that era is over and i don't think there's anything to continue it all there was of first argument to into the came up in the ninety's this would be the ultimate expression of democracy so people could express themselves share and you know this without any government control so this huge power which was. drifting towards the individual and at the same time you saw the state coming in as well who wanted to harness this so you see this within the say in china obviously it's also

how did some formidable efforts in terms of controlling the internet and i think now in the center you see the tech corporations really having this huge power and coming essentially with their own agenda i would miss it of the grid with. their in the center because they are they are politically very left or if you look at the executives of google the interesting thing is that these these platforms want to determine what the center is ok that's what i think is really very interesting here and what it will do when a people will go elsewhere all right and the interesting thing for me is that there's always been this talk about turning them into a utility regulating it but i think these powers using the mystery in the center they want to harness it for themselves that's why you don't hear talk of a break and time in. talk because they want to capture it for themselves when they

use this what they use it to kind of calm people down ok the this is the mainstream this is the center we have been living with it for so many years everything's fine but there are sensory and not only dramas support out there censor in some some of the side called libertarians on for facebook doesn't sound to a nod serious or you know of that an assault like leftist extremist to me and and some statistics five hundred fifty nine pages and two hundred fifty of our colleagues removed it are these all just you know extremist are these all people attracted readers with short in political news well politico and you'll see how short and the difference with china is that in china the mainstream press is not calling for war in the united states and the european union the mainstream press very often and off switch that self into

a wall mort and we have them in that war against iraq the war against libya the war against syria although this is the big prize into you know this is the outsourcing of censorship we unite heart about this earlier with the atlantic county council is that facebook they do that well we'll have these fact checkers take care of of course first of all they get any kind of responsibility but we were our advisors you know so that and you know for the mainstream the atlantic council has sterling credentials i don't think they have sterling credentials around this table and for many of the our viewers watching this program outsourcing censorship yeah and that's why at the end of the day facebook is now essentially a publisher even though they claim to be a platform let's not forget when they first started they were saying they were a platform for communication for ideas they live. in exactly exactly they lie to everyone let's not also forget i've lived in silicon valley these people that work at these companies the facebook the the twitters. google's these guys are not

progressive they're not conservative they're not libertarians they despise all these call these groups they are neo liberal elitist these guys are the elite of the leet they make huge salaries they are the royalty they are the tech royalty of the world and everyone else we're just a bunch of service and they want to keep that. i think it's a spot on because in the united states media freedom is or at least has been quite this sacred and but the whole argument is that these are private companies they can choose who's going to be on their sites and they can choose rules for the platform so but obviously they link themselves through sort of poll to what happens is that i don't know if this was the original goal but they are the public square now i mean they're much more than a platform they are the public square where ideas are exchange and they are unilaterally without giving anyone any recourse is that you're out ok no

explanation that it's creating a lot of waves in the u.s. the fact that they are sold brazen this company so that's why you're very interesting on the on the right in the united states you see traditional free marketeers conservatives now arguing that facebook should become utilities so essentially the states should absorb it because that's not a good solution that's not a good solution they might even compound it depending on who's in power ok now you could use it but we do need some kind of a solution because companies will grow and they will continue to grow in the future that's where the main joke anomic power will come in the future especially now as we're going into this new industrial revolution so i think. we have to choose what do we do we have this huge corporations become more more powerful are they going to be aligned with the state if so how do you have chinese system where they control it or they have the corporate state of america or they let them run free and essentially challenge the government like the oligarchs in russia in this program don't think we. any solutions for this problem i guess twenty seconds name before

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welcome back to cross talk we're all things are considered i'm peter lavelle to remind we're discussing some real news. ok let me go to glenn here let's shift gears to saudi arabia and the mysterious disappearance of a dissident saudi journalist this is a big story. yes it definitely created. become a very awkward component of the awkward you're always good for understatement. this is no we didn't bloody think paris that he will. of course this doesn't bode well for the relations between the united states and saudi arabia but the of the day there's a lot of strategic and financial interest in maintaining this partnership so my best guess is the saudis will throw a lot of money at this we will eventually see it go away. but i guess

coming to the defense of the american i would say that they are put in a difficult position because. they do have this strategic interest they have to pursue and at the same time they have to harmonize this with what appears to be all moral values or the logic you know we just like you know that. turn of phrase or you have a comment geo political interests but not values ok i think this is going to continue for a while here we know that president. one is in some kind of joint investigation well i tend to think this is a one way negotiation if no one is going to extract a lot from the saudis because apparently it's the turks that have all the forensic evidence the communications all this is far as we know it has not been released to the media but that's a very powerful card they're playing and i think the crown prince has to be very worried mostly about his reputation and i think the turks share that information with the u.s. judging by trump's sixty minute interview trump also knows this is

a huge huge story is going to get a lot of leverage for saudi arabia is going to get a lot of money from then the u.s. is going to sell a boat load of arms to see how do you know rabiah dekker through the are going to reconcile but m.b.a.'s most likely were talking before the program maybe on his way out good riddance that guy. was a sociopath he has been doing this for the better part of a year he's been bombing yemen he's been taking other saudi oligarchs and billionaires locking them in hotel rooms torturing them and it was it not three or four months ago peter that emmis n.b.c. washington post new york times c.n.n. were hailing him is what. the performer creates the liberal prince who's who's bringing who's letting women go to movie theaters and letting them drive in he's the savior of saudi arabia and it took you said it best it took the murder most likely the murder of this journalist and the only reason it's opening up the eyes

is because he was working for the washington post took this mr president to one of their own here but john brennan in this yes came out and i'm glad you pointed out the article to me and so i won't be a spoiler go right ahead well john brennan published an article in the washington post isn't he a brave man you know he published an article headlined the u.s. should now would turn a blind eye to this sort of inhumanity can you read the last sentence or have it i haven't you know read it here if you're going to the message would be clear here we go the united states will never turned a blind eye to such a new main behavior even when carried out by friends because this is a nation that remains faithful to its values absolutely that was john brennan he was one of the darth vader of droning john brennan as he admits in his article has walked in saudi arabia for five years with the same regime that destroyed. and he basically says that according to my information it couldn't be done without the

prince knowing it and the court well for whom better than bradman to know such things he'd want permission from president obama every night for killing hundreds of people by drone attacks and suddenly i would have these opening moments mr brennan he says he writes in his article. we saw that well publicized detention of more than one hundred princes senior technocrats and businessmen in the ritz carlton hotel well i read in the new york times that it was needed forty four there was almost friedman who came in person to talk to mohamed bin so i was advised to crown prince they want to do so you said he was all over by his reform agent that he has been listening to during the fall that you know these are real probably the most the most expensive p.r. campaigns ever done ok in the history of p.r. and then just a moment mr brennan optional noticed that m.b.a.'s ordered their arrest of

activists some of whom were actually we've been here all of that we meant to drive home with thought it was just it was excused for anything he or that some of them are us that well this is the point of the ultra liberals they are they make privileged groups but if a member of that privileged group person and woman or and representative of the sexual minority is against them then you can credit the home of that person more than anyone else if he is so concerned mr brother about women in detention why doesn't he remind us of money which you know who is just seeking their woman activist who drop off and who to speak to the media she is now in detention in doing so this journalist. he's put donald trump is his fate whatever it is is put donald trump in a very uncomfortable position because of course this we can't you know he says the

u.s. can't stand for this but as we've all agreed here there's a lot of money at stake right here it's possible and i think that alex is already you look into it. the west may be looking for a different partner in saudi arabia. well that could be because it's not a we have to remind our viewers it's not a country it's a it's a family ok and there are other members of the family that is. without the saudis ruling it would just be arabia so if it is a family enterprise but i think that trump put himself a little bit in this difficult position because during the whole campaign he pointed out that the saudis were the main sponsor of terrorism and you know he would not bow to the saudis unlike his predecessor and then he had to flip will he did recognize the strategic interest and also the commercial interests in maintaining good relations with the saudis so he went over there and you know paid his tribute like any other american president. i think he's put in a difficult position i suspect this being

a lot of domestic issues because obviously people like brennan would not have come out against obama in this kind of way so he called trump's treasonous in the past for a meeting with putin so again his i think that it also reflects how american politics of color i saw the if the opposition can really put trump in a bill i think they're likely to jeopardize the relationship with saudi arabia by calling him out and essentially daring him to challenge this partition all hard of by any means. necessary i think what's really interesting is that one of the things the mantras that you hear about middle east politics is a reign is the. chief supporter of terrorism in the world ok but you have case in this case. shogi was killed by saudi intelligence personnel. in a foreign country in a consulate that is nothing less than state terrorism so it's kind of like the pot

calling the kettle black here and when we do find the truth behind all of this and like we said we pretty much know what i think most people are hinting at what happened the saudis the family will survive they will they will throw b.s. under the bus in order to survive at the end of the day the world we are survivors so i think m.b.'s his days are numbered i think trump was hurt by what happened i forget that jared cushion or spoke to m.p.'s they said they spoke almost a whole night together and they were discussing policy and stuff so i mean all of trump's media family also got burned really bad you could tell that trump did not like it and you don't cross trump i think at the end of the day trump will take action if and when they decide to publish or to come out with the truth of what happened is the interesting thing is stressing the fact that it is a royal family saying the crown prince is saying the entire family that's what makes it complicated well let me remind you of school was the main any me or

president are gone and mohamad been so long the president bashar also so tell me about your any miss and i will tell you who you are maybe if mr austin has such terrible and you miss the people who are able to commit a murder and then hide it maybe he's not so bad after all that's what we have been told by the western media for so many years and again i think the western media and i will try to sell us the story that all of the trump supported the saudi family it all started i think you john brennan is already a right anything his article to alter the absolutely u.s. moral leadership on the global stage now well well i mean can you remind all of us that it was obama of course supported that haven't been so months intervention in yemen which mr brennan is now. courting that disastrous for a into yemen and of course quote brennan wasn't powell went for it and took it to

yemen start up or because the it started with his former support it's very interesting and really anything else because glenn was absolutely right to bring in the domestic politics in the us about this is that it is the images that here i guess history started two years ago because everybody else has ever meet. it would have been born in you remember we have stressed on this program over and over again i've always talked about the the envelope the drug has in his pocket he checks everything off for his reelection he inherited all of this ok it was not of his doing i'm not defending donald trump i think his relationship his enhanced relationship with saudi arabia is toxic to the core and he's going it's coming back to haunt it was the first country to what turns country let's not forget that so so trump does have some responsibility there but i think he will take action as far as bread and goes it's not the same brennan that was trying to

overthrow andy throne trump is not the same brennan that started you created it because it's not the same brennan that started syria is that the same bread in there that they started to russia russia russia russia russia and cuba brennan and killed thousands of people in yemen by groups they realize you're going to get into exactly yemen was the first victim or the drone campaign and now brennan is criticizing mohammad bill song for these sounds of this foray into yemen but also. i think mohamed bin solomon has given us who may succeed he has nothing but praise article for muhammad bin nayef the former head of the saudi intelligence who was basically removed by muhammad bin so much recently he says that this person was due pulled by the import. and victory for crawling priests out of court well that reminds me also we have a retired cia is involved and i'm not the regime case is this guy ever retired

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people they trust the most. it. seems wrong why don't we all just don't call. me. yet to stamp out this thing because as a kid and in detroit because betrayal. when so many find themselves worlds apart we choose to look for common ground. i don't have faith in this government official of president i don't have space in the system larson i've got it i'm just a liberal the system is not decided for people like me were moved. as bloodlessly.

defend the poor here for different reasons but also job loss. most people in philadelphia are only about two paychecks away from homelessness. please. please. please good. luck. lisa.

using his lawyer of course today is not an easy day for the c.s.u. we didn't get a good result it was somewhat painful a bad day for the german chancellor angela merkel's conservative allies into the area who is set to lose the majority in regional elections that is the right wing and the greens make historic gangs come the sound i think donald trump's trade war appears to be back far enough.