tv Cross Talk RT October 15, 2018 3:30pm-3:53pm EDT
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nation and the resurgence of russia we also have exclusive forro he is the director and writer for the duran dot com and we have dimitri bob and he is a political analyst with sputnik international. rules in effect that means he can jump in anytime you want and i always appreciated. the purge his com long expected what do you think of the extent of it is this the beginning because we had alex jones was the was the tipping point now they're wrong it. was a trial balloon alex jones have self said it's that they're going to come after everybody once they're done with me and they wipe them off the internet map and now they've come after at the media they went after the free thought park project it's important to point out these are not just conservative sites these are also progressive sites and it's up to three weeks before the midterms so there's no coincidence that you brought that up because one could make the argument that facebook is injecting itself into the political process here because they're saying
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they're required to protect the political process from these three quote unquote fringes but they are the ones that are meddling it's also important to point out that it's not just facebook twitter also suspended the account so there is obvious collusion between the two companies so i mean what you have here is facebook in my opinion has put the final nail in their coffin we could look at that now as a big company but believe me in a few years facebook what we're gret this disorder any millennial is are leaving in droves here what is the significance for you because it seems to me that there's an enormous amount of cool lucian going on here and it's the mainstream media that is cheering this along because they want their monopoly back they want to be able to push their competitors to the side because their ratings or way way down their business model is failing this is a big favorite favorite of the establishment definitely think that's how it's evolved as well and i think you're right to point out that this was largely as.
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something that they will regret because when this purge of alternative voices began in issue was so said this tech companies are now establish themselves as this new minister of truth they essentially came after the foreign media first so r.t. for one where they start to manipulate the algorithms to get fewer hits and then we saw that it began to talk internal enemies as well because they have american society become quite polarized so of course the conservatives began to complain that this very left leaning companies are now coming after them as well and censoring. censoring the you know the conservatives. again it continues and i think now they're going after both left and right so this is unbelievable opportunity offender even with you taking this well i think we've said that a long time ago on this program for many decades humane to expect it fascism to come from extreme left or from which to my right it came from the center where it
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was least expect it and look at their reaction i mean let me call it decent for all my free fought project you know which had more than three million followers gun right he says that this is it. and i work that expression also i just followed it but that's in the service this live in the service of democracy it is not in the service of ideas what it is is to narrow the field and where they have facebook is injecting itself actually picking winners well i just love this expression. memory recall phrase book memory caught a lot of interesting articles a lot of interest in autos it is becoming what people call a digital native state you know people complain in a name you state for many decades well and then you state that would go into education. no one would be against such in the state but the more the ultraliberal
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name a state it doesn't go to eight in economically but it certainly watches out that you will not be influenced by politically incorrect facebook and twitter and others they are determining what your value system should be they don't mandating it and they are punishing people they don't toe the line they are much more than a platform where you can place ideas there to turn their editors now their editors of social media of the social media space they are acting as publishers so they should be to fight as publishers not platforms that should not have the protection of platforms they should be responsible for what content goes up they should hire a thousand is that facebook they do so we'll have these fact checkers take care of it for us first of all they get any kind of responsibility while we were our advisors you know so that and you know for the mainstream the atlantic council has
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sterling credentials i don't think they have sterling credentials around this table and for many of the our viewers watching this program outsourcing censorship yeah and that's why at the end of the day facebook is now essentially a publisher even though they claim to be a platform let's not forget when they first started they were saying they were a platform for communication for ideas they already laid it exactly exactly they lie to everyone let's not also forget i've lived in silicon valley these people that work at these companies the facebook the twitters the googles these guys are not progressive they're not conservative they're not libertarians they despise all these call these groups they are neo liberal elitist these guys at the elite of the leet they make huge salaries they are the royalty they are the tech royalty of the world and everyone else we're just a bunch of service and they want to keep acting like. it's a spot on because in the united states media freedom. is or at least has been quite
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this sacred and but the whole argument is that these are private companies they can choose who's going to be on their side and they can choose the rules for the platform so but obviously they link themselves through sort of a poll to what happens is that i don't know if this was the original goal but they are the public square now i mean they are much more than a platform they are the public square where ideas are exchange and they are unilaterally without giving anyone any recourse is that you're out ok no explanation that it's creating a lot of waves in the us the fact that they are sold brazen this company so that's why you're very interesting on the in the right in the united states you see traditional free marketeers conservatives now arguing that facebook should become utility so essentially the states should absorb it because that's not a good solution that's not a good solution it might even compound it depending on who's in power ok how you
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could use it but we do need some kind of a solution because companies there will grow and they will continue to grow in the future that's where the main joke anomic power will come in the future especially now as we're going into this new industrial revolution so i think. we have to choose what do we do we have this huge corporations become more more powerful are they going to be aligned with the state if so how do you have chinese system where they control it or they have the corporate state of america or they let them run free and essentially challenge the government like the oligarchs in russia in this program don't think we have any solutions. to anything before we have. people have been talking about madelyne during the last two years i think well i like to call it nicholas bernard fall down to a media that will take and he said ok if we're talking about meddling removing an eight hundred politically. oriented media for deletion you know isn't that in elections right before the november. terms that he's mapping and it's and they
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determined who's in it in the middle here we're going to go to a short break guys and out about short break we'll continue our discussion on something really important and stay with. i've been saying the numbers mean something they matter us is over one trillion dollars and. more than ten over i'm happy. eighty five percent of global will but not values ok i think this is going to continue for a while here we know that the president. is in some kind of joint investigation well i tend to think this is a one way negotiation everyone is going to extract a lot from the saudis because apparently it's the turks that have all the forensic
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evidence the communications all this is far as we know it has not been released to the media but that's a very powerful card they're playing and i think the crown prince has to be very worried mostly about his reputation and i think the turks share that information with us judging by trump's sixty minute interview trump also knows this is a huge huge story is going to get a lot of leverage for saudi arabia is going to get a lot of money from them the u.s. is going to sell a boat load of arms to saudi arabia and then the decker through the are going to reconcile but m.b.'s most likely before the program may be on his way out good riddance that guy was a sociopath he has been doing this for the better part of a year he's been bombing yemen he's been taking other saudi oligarchs and billionaires locking them in hotel rooms torturing them and it was it not three or four months ago peter that emmis n.b.c. washington post new york times c.n.n. were hailing. is what they're looking for the performance traits the liberal prince
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who's who's bringing who's letting women go to movie theaters and letting them drive in he's the savior of saudi arabia and it took you said it best it took the murder most likely the murder of this journalist and the only reason it's opening up the eyes is because he was working for the washington post took this mr president as one of their own here but john brennan this yes came out in a i'm glad you pointed out the article to me and so i won't be a spoiler go right ahead well john brennan published an article in the washington post isn't he a brave man. he published an article headlined the u.s. should now would turn a blind eye to this sort of inhumanity can you read the last sentence or have it i haven't you know read it here. the message would be clear here we go the united states will never turned a blind eye to such in you mean behavior even when carried out by friends because this is a nation that remains faithful to its values absolutely that was john brennan he
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was one of the darth vader of droning about john brennan as he admits in his article has walked in saudi arabia for five years with the same regime that destroyed mr. and he basically says that according to my information it couldn't be done without the prince knowing it and the court well for whom that doesn't brandon to know such things he'd want permission from president obama every night for killing hundreds of people by drone attacks and suddenly i would have these orpen in moment from mr brennan he says as he writes in his article we saw that well publicized detention of more than one hundred princes senior technocrats and businessmen in the ritz carlton hotel well i read in the new york times that it was needed forty four there was so much friedman who came in person to talk to mohamed bin so i was going to sit by. crown prince i want to do what you said he
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was all over by his reform agent that he has been listening to during that whole night you know these are real probably the most the most expensive p.r. campaigns ever ok in the history of p.r. and then just a moment mr brennan optional not just that m.b.a.'s or that there rest of activists some of whom but actually we. hear all of that we meant to drive home with thought it was just for a new thing he or that some of them are us that well this is the point of all the ultra liberals they are privileged groups but if a member of that privileged group of person and woman or and representative of the sexual minority is against them then you can crack down on that person more than anyone else if he is so concerned mr brother to women in detention why doesn't he remind us all. who is just seeking their woman activist who drop off and who to
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speak to the media she is now in detention in doing so this journalist. he's put donald trump is his fate whatever it is is put donald trump in a very uncomfortable position because of course we can't you know he says the u.s. can't stand for this but as we've all agreed here there's a lot of money at stake right here it's possible and i think that alex has already alluded to it. the west may be looking for a different partner in saudi arabia. well that could be because it's not that we have to remind our viewers it's not a country it's a it's a family ok and there are other members of the family in it without the so this ruling if there would just be arabia so it is a family enterprise but i think that trump put himself a little bit in this difficult position because during the whole campaign he pointed out that the saudis were the main sponsor of terrorism and you know he would not bow to the saudis unlike his predecessor and then he had to flip. well he
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did recognize the strategic interests also the commercial interests in maintaining good relations with the saudis so he went over there and you know paid his tribute like any other american president. i think he's put in a difficult position he might suspect this being a lot of domestic issues because obviously people like brennan would not have come out against obama in this kind of way so he called trump in this in the past for a meeting with putin so again his i think that it also reflects how american politics of polarized so the if the opposition can really put trump in a bad light then i think they're likely to jeopardize the relationship with saudi arabia by calling him out and essentially daring him to challenge this partition all hard of by any means. necessary i think what's really interesting is that one of the things the mantras that you hear about middle east politics is a rand is the. chief supporter of terrorism in the world ok but you
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have case in this case. shogi was killed by saudi intelligence personnel. in a foreign country in a consulate that is nothing less than state terrorism so it's kind of like the pot calling the kettle black here and when we do find the truth behind all of this and like we said we pretty much know what i think most people are hinting at what happened the saudis the family will survive they will they will throw b.s. under the bus in order to survive at the end of the day the world we are survivors so i think m.b.'s his days are numbered i think trump was hurt by what happened i forget that jared cushion or spoke to m.p.'s they said they spoke almost a whole night together and they were discussing policy and stuff so i mean all of trump's media family also got burned copper and really bad you could tell that trump did not like it and you don't cross trump i think at the end of the day trump
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will take action if and when they decide to publish or to come out with the truth of what happened is the interesting thing is stressing the fact that it is a royal family saying the crown prince is saying the entire family that's what makes it complicated well let me remind you of school was the main any me or president are gone and mohamad been so long the president bashar al laughs so tell me about your in the mist and i will tell you who you are maybe if mr austin has such terrible and you miss the people who are able to commit a murder and then hide it maybe he's not so bad after all that's what we have been told by the western media for so many years and again i think the western media and i will try to sell us the story that all of the trump support that the saudi family it all started i think you john brennan is already a right anything his article to alter the absolutely u.s. moral leadership on the global stage now well well i mean can you remind all of us
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that it was a bomb of course supported that mohamed bin so months intervention in yemen which mr brennan is now. courting that disastrous foray into yemen and of course quote brennan wasn't powell went for it and took it to yemen start up already is the it started with his former support it's very interesting and really anything else because glenn was absolutely right to bring in the domestic politics in the us about this is that in his dream it is that here i guess history started two years ago because everybody else is a to meet. it would have been beforehand you remember we have stressed on this program over and over again i've always talked about the the envelope the drug has in his pocket he checks everything off for his reelection he inherited all of this ok it was not of his doing i'm not defending donald trump i think his relationship
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his enhanced relationship with saudi arabia is toxic to the core and he's going it's coming back to haunt it was the first countrywide terms country let's not forget that so so trump does have some responsibility there but i think he will take action as far as bread and goes is not the same brand that was trying to overthrow anti thrown trump is not the same brennan that started you created it because it's not the same brand it that started it syria is not the same brand in that that we started to russia russia russia russia russia and brennan and killed thousands of people in yemen by the groups they realize you're going to get exactly yemen was the first victim or the drone campaign and no britain is criticizing mohammad bill solomon for these incidents foray into yemen but also. i think mohamed bin solomon has given us who may succeed he has nothing but praise in just a little article for muhammad bin nayef the former head of the saudi intelligence
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who was basically removed by mohamed bin so much recently he says that this person was due pulled by the import. and victor you crawl in prince out of court well that reminds me also we have a retired cia had been so involved in another regime case is this guy ever retired the thing hard to imagine all the time for many things of a good theory in moscow and thanks to our viewers for watching us here r.t.c. that time and remember. and your. pal. coming up the. type of hi i'm told. will i. am. in
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from ten there is a trade in young girls souls into an underground six in the street sometimes but the people they trust the most. you cannot operate as united nations this is not just one run but un d.p. world health organization and in fact other international organizations like the international committee of the red cross you cannot work in a place like gaza with pragmatic cooperation with the local storage fees which are hamas in this case here on or has been for most of the last few years. you know world's big partners. lot and conspiracy it's time to wait
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to dig deeper to hit the stories that mainstream media refuses to tell more than ever we need to be. we need to stop slamming the door. and shouting past each other it's time for critical thinking it's time to fight for the middle for the truth the time is now for watching closely watching the hawks. figure this government official a president facing the system. the system designed for people like. a long list. of the poor.
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is a searching the saudi consulate in istanbul over a journalist. shoji who went missing that soon weeks ago and international warnings of consequences if it's found to be complicit in the disappearance kingdom's denied all accusations. or sources close to julian assange is confirmed he's been issued a ten page protocol on how to behave in communications how these internet access partially restored by the ecuadorian embassy.
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