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when so many find themselves worlds apart. just to look for common ground. mostly i look i talk when i talk about it. but i've got this good. i might be dead nearly seventy injured in a shooting and bomb attack at a college in the southern russian city of courage the attacker is named by authorities as rossley cover student from the college who committed suicide after the atrocity and similarities are now being told to the worst mass shooting at a high school in u.s.
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history in colombine when fifteen people were left dead and twenty four. watching r.t. international is just gone six pm here in moscow some major breaking news throughout the afternoon so let's just bring you up to date a gun and bomb attack on a college in crimea has left nineteen people dead and more than seventy injured all the victims are from a local area russia's investigative committee has reclassified the incident go from a terror attack to murder three days of mourning have been declared in the region russia's investigative committee says the explosion happened in the college canteen and the device was packed with metal objects investigators are now studying lots of c.c.t.v. footage witnesses reported seeing the suspect carrying a rifle is the moment of the attack. the reversible i look at.
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to talk with. the police. must be right that the still moving. oh. we're going to we're going to get. you. the footage to have the moments just after the attack with a college is in the city of kurt which is in the southern part of russia in eastern crimea and the attack happened at around midday local time that's about six hours ago a college student witnessed the shooting and described what she saw. was
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the more reasonable now do you know who openly it is you know the is that of all those that over. close your. eyes it is the yet bizarrely video of the bothered with noise of the. brother who. was these are the i know you are the boy is what you thought. was the good you will you believe really. meanwhile with over seventy people injured in the instant results of the city of courage of the one thousand blood those who may need blood transfusions. what we've heard from witnesses of the college attack who told us what they saw. what we don't know what we go if you come on our show you know what she up in unity . because lethal doesn't really work fashionable i mean you have
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a very serious. lead against matthew chance we devise a question of the. results. here the. most of the three. minute really misleading. but watch another story when you look at it over. the course of certainly if i was there we check it chasing a ball busting material in the we just sort of come out of a little c.n.n. i'm sure a list if i can trust that asking for various little talking to. us is a more fittingly isn't it means every way to start a blog post a quitter grow with the producer it's my vision a little more than the. bush enjoying the summer yellows are knocking about astrology. is this the talk of the fulfillment of this. going to
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postpone what are you the real defense of it because you have any less about some of the don't explicitly stating that yeah i need the money come on but what i use is a methodist army worried that someone you know is about to start a new family show you something about that sort of thing some of the most not. some i was in which we have a couple of years when he was in school one. ok let's have a look at more details of the alleged attack of the russian investigative committee said that they do believe he was a student of the college aged between eighteen and twenty two who was found dead on the second floor of the building after apparently killing himself with his gun. well today the college was packed full of students in fact it does have over a thousand rolled who were studying there at the moment and it also has seventy three members of staff it's also one of the oldest colleges in the city. a number
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of witnesses have described the events throughout the day local media posted a video who said to be the college director. prove that you didn't just look at the five or ten minutes after i left someone broken all the window glass was shattered after the whole explosion then someone was running about was shot guns or something opened all the class doors and killed everyone in sight i could have been dead now all my coworkers were shot down children my colleagues or dad. was you know the injured children and college stuff or transferred by public transport false and ambulance i heard a blog post and shooting a saw people lying with. about thirty people conscious i was working not far from here and ran straight to this place everyone hoped. i live the first building of the college and went to the second i opened the door and heard an explosion then
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the shooting started everyone started screaming there was panic everywhere i don't know what happened after that we ran right then my friend and i tried to help but we weren't allowed. to live now if you go down off our correspondent he was in sochi that's because the russian president is in talks there with this is gyptian counterpart but of course today's events i've shouted those in the president has been speaking about them to just remind us them what he said. will indeed end the all of us journalists gathered here to cover the well of the meeting between the russian president and his in gyptian counterpart but as we were learning about the invents that were unfolding in crimea is courage that as you've said has completely overshadowed the agenda and journalists began to expect and to wonder what vladimir putin would have to say about the tragedy and indeed when vladimir putin and the his egyptian counterpart showed up in front of the press they both began their statements with well you know talking about the massacre in
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courage here's what the russian president had to say. but you know what it is. so we'll use it when i want to express my deepest condolences to the relatives of those who have been killed i hope that all the victims will recover as soon as possible we will do everything we can to help them we already know this is a crime and we are looking deeply into the motives and versions of what has put all the results of the investigation will be made public dear friends in memory of all the victims let's honor them with a minute sign which is pretty much. well before vladimir putin showed up journalists kind of briefly had wondered whether or not vladimir putin will cut his program short and travel to courage himself i asked about this the press secretary of lattimer putin betrayed his cough and he said
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that well for now all such reports cannot be confirmed so that i'm a putin at least right now is staying here in saudi and of course we can all just speculate as to what the reasons could be behind this but my colleague also a journalist here in presidential poll submitted his version of why you have a lesson. the president will not go to courage even a quick visit by the president will disrupt curch crimea and all its services and people need to work there provide help conduct an investigation the president will not go so their work is not hindered indeed it could be just that vladimir putin letting all professionals on the ground in crimea focus on their work focus on what's important and that's saving lives and finding out what was behind the horrific massacre in curch. ok thank you for that she has done a fair for us in salt change or we can get more reaction to this now because when he is back in the studio dana after this
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a lot of people were drawing comparisons were they with other mass killings mass shootings at schools we know this was the second major attack we can call it that at. a russian school plus plenty of others we've seen in america there is a growing trend if you look at it well of course it is quite early to draw any parallels to mass shootings so we see mostly taking place in the united states but now these sort of incidents are tragically happening across the world and here russia is not an exception now from the beginning of this year in this country in russia alone we've seen several high profile attacks on schools.
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well perhaps the one attack that really stands out is the one that happened in the russian city of perm back in january of this year and now of those the attackers behind that particular incident were two students one a former student and another an eleventh grader and now they had a conflict with the teacher and they first thought of attacking that teacher with a knife but then it all happened in a classroom full of children and they as well injured. children present and the classroom now after the investigation took place it was revealed that those two. teenagers they were aged fifteen and sixteen were inspired by the columbine high school massacre that happened back in the united states and of
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course it is early to draw any parallels so maybe it's quite a leap to draw parallels between those two cases both of these teenagers were dressed in black they had quite similar interests on social media they also used explosive devices in now if we go back to that event that happened in the russian city of that we talked about and we reported on throughout the state and if we compare it to the columbine massacre. teenagers we know that the culprit from that attack was between eighteen to twenty two if we talk about the massacre in the states they were savin thousand and eighty. when there were two attackers there and they said they killed thirteen people after the attack they committed suicide they had explosive device put in the canteen.
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in if we have a look at the attack that happened today in the russian city of yes there was a loner there and he also used an explosive device that he somehow managed to detonate in the canteen college building he managed to peel even more people now the death toll at the moment stands at nineteen we know that. over sixteen people are at critical in critical condition at the moment so that might have an increase and he also committed suicide so this is a very scary trend there we're talking about i would repeat myself and say that it is indeed too early to draw parallels to that case because the investigation is still under way but again it is we've heard from the experts sort of a trend that we've been witnessing this year alone. for
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the forest let's get the thoughts to share with chris bambery he's a political analyst and i think you. are going to join the u.k. good evening chris so i can see. we were just discussing there with a correspondent does appear to be a growing trend we've seen in the united states for a number of years but two. major attacks schools in russia this year. do you see there's a growing trend. i think it is i mean first i have to say my hearts go out to the families of the victims the brothers sisters appearance every one of us will share that moment a shocking event because we were there is something of a pattern developing and it is very difficult to gnaw what hope we can respond to that and we don't want schools and colleges to become fortresses the places of warning if we were children and young people are exploring their lives developing their lives they shouldn't be food choices or you know jails in that sense but also
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i think we need to look at the culture i mean it's very early to draw any conclusions of power but the powers of columbine of obvious as we've just been talking about and on social media you know the sharing of those ideas how you deal with this in two thousand and eighteen with the the access to social media to the internet again very very very difficult but i think that has to be some attempt to counter that culture and to educate young people about what's wrong with that clearly as well we're talking i mean we must be talking about anyone to do this someone with a disturbed history a disturbed life and again we have to look at what was going on there what support was an offer to that individual with were people aware of them what's really a shocking of a list very very difficult to understand firstly how that this could have a car how someone could do this but also just exactly how we deal with it that's
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the question isn't it how do we deal with it and if we look at all these cases that we've discussed today and many people discuss the previous months to you it comes it seems to come down to motivation somebody clearly as an individual is unhappy whether it's his girlfriend or it's teacher or problems at school or whatever but for some reason they feel that the answer is picking up a gun and. mass and a mass shooting and we continue to see this but why what makes them take that step . what makes them decide i've got this problem therefore i'm going to kill masses of people is it because we expose youngsters to more violence to these days that's one argument on computers or in films etc what's your view i know it's only speculation but you know people want to hear discussion about this and surely you know these points need to be brought up in the need to be. answered. stages but i think that i think you clearly there is an example out there which are fortunately
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the young boy has drawn on this bit access to i think there has to be you know this was much more sophisticated attack we're talking a perm involving knives he has as a columbine created an explosive device which was a deadly effect he had access to a far arm so this is not just something spontaneous lastly something premed is easy here and how he got that information how he got access to the materials etc these are burning questions i'm sure people in kershaw be working on as we speak desperate to find out how the how this how this happened and i think as well you know in the cold and elsewhere people will be walking back and thinking is there something we could have picked picked up here which we we didn't pick up i want to blame and i think it's tremendously it must be tremendously difficult for an individual like this to be able to pick up on that but of course we have to try but i think the cultural influences are something that we as a society in russia across europe and the united states of america we have to look
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at how we can combat those influences through social media the examples of columbine etc me you know it is no obvious this is normal it's the murder of an american problem for a long time i think we could kind of pretend we knew or didn't have this problem who it is not just a russian but a european problem and i think we all have to take that on board than i mean we've been rolling this story chris i think from pretty much six hours almost now some people say that solution is for a media blackout because we're seeing copycat violence so the solution would be just restrict the coverage of these type of events. that would be very difficult i think technological it also i think it raises issues in our society i think the key thing is that there also has to be an attempt to say that really this is completely beyond the pale in terms of society to explain to people and i think we have to explain to people there are problems who are known wondering there are problems of
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knife crime of youngsters carrying knives and used me on each other we have to try and address that which means mobilizing the parents it means mobilizing their peers their friends and family and your teachers elsewhere so i think we you know i speak it here is a peer and we need to be aware of these problems and it can't just be dealt with within the family it can't just be dealt with at the level of government in the state the has to be a mood wise asian across civil society to explain to anyone even tempted towards that there is something profoundly wrong and to put forward different examples of how you can solve your problems that really at the end of the day obviously. our heart goes out to the victims but you know this is a young man who carries a terrible crime who it seems but also ended his own life you know he didn't deserve that and really he needed our help before we got to the stage and i think we need to be looking at that as a society all of us and in schools particularly i mean it's
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a question i've asked many people today but it always seems to be telltale signs but these individuals who carry out these crimes before should be clever and how we pick up on these signals or is this just something that actually is pretty much impossible to predict. i think it is very difficult to predict or mentioned you know london it's caused by feel are among the youngsters are youngsters in gangs etc but i think as we speak i think there will be a big those in education about how you can pick up on signs how you can deal with individuals who are distressed have problems you know we have to accelerate that. it's already happening i know in schools across north america europe and russia but i think more obvious will need to be done but i think we do need to be working among young people because there is something here in the sense that we as adults can talk about what needs to be done then is there
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a notion among young people themselves that this is unethical and this is something which is not acceptable and something you know among the peers there has to be that mobilization as well to explain why that's what war is ation you know adults obviously can do something very very important here and have to do that but young people themselves have a role to play in addressing the addressing these problems that i think we can't sweep this under the carpet no we're going to have to say that we have a problem here and all of us all of us have to face that problem and just finally chris some people might be feeling more assured or safe if they do you see guard security guards armed teachers perhaps at school is a solution. well i'd only on teachers would be i think we have to be very careful with putting untrained people how weapons i think there has to be security and i'm sure encourage people here one of the posters interviewed said the back entrance
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with no t.v. cameras i don't know how the access was i nor that when i speak in london you know it is not easy to access schools or colleges but i want to make the point they are places of work you know that all push and not be places of feeling and we have to think where that we don't want to climb don't so much that they are they begin to resemble prison camps or jails they are about knowledge young people discovering the world and that is very important and this is the balance that makes things so difficult you know it's the same is wrong we confront terrorism we don't want to surrender to terrorism by end up with being inside our own prison terrified of going out except for you know we want to celebrate our life they don't want us to have in a sense that there's an element that was true in this case you know we don't want to surrender to that fear which they are trying to create ok chris where a nice a toshiba an affidavit there that i was chris bambery political analyst thank you. ok well if you're just tuning in let's just recap then what's happened. afternoon
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because nineteen people have been confirmed killed in around seventy injured in a gun and bomb attack on a college in crimea first an explosion rocked the college shattering windows use a homemade explosive device is said to have been placed in the canteen then shooting started on the second floor the main suspect was a student at the college and has been named to his. cough who's aged between eighteen and twenty two he said then to have turned the gun on himself while authorities say he was not known to police before the incident and is not believed to show any aggressive tendencies in the past either brushes investigative committee has reclassified the incident from a terror attack to murder three days of mourning have also been declared in the region security measures have been ramped up so you on the peninsula and all schools colleges and universities across russia. video from the scene captured the attack under way. reversible it was.
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to talk with cyclone those troops talk about it. was right that this was recruit. i did was. i. was a college student who witnessed the shooting described what she saw. most recent of not to go up and it is you know those that have all those the rallies closed you're going to see him publicly the whole year not see this through yet
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bizarrely video but the leap was the party ploy. by the who. and my love was the result i know paula if you are not but if you thought. you want to see your little good you're really really. security analyst and former u.k. army officer charles she bridge believes that sasha atrocities are often copycat attacks. these incidents particularly perhaps with young people or perhaps people. mentally disturbed in some way and i'm not saying that young people are mentally disturbed but people perhaps are vulnerable and perhaps more impressionable there's no doubt whatsoever that such people are susceptible to some degree c. carrying out or being inspired by previous instance to copycat attacks or copycat
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incidents we've seen that for example in the terrorism fear or i speak as a former counterterrorism officer where when attack and attack takes place for example we saw in london just a year ago where one attack takes place and it seems to inspire others to then carry out an attack either on the spur of the moment or something they've been thinking about for some time perhaps people have got a grudge of some sort as maybe in this current case and then it triggers them to actually think well actually i'm going to carry that out to a particular of course when inevitably and this isn't a criticism of the media but inevitably such incidents attract a wide and very longstanding degree of a publicist which again appears to some people of course that if they're going to go out they want to go out in a blaze of glory but again we need to know the more detail incidents details of this incident before we can come to any conclusions but undoubtedly one of the tactics place like this there is a danger. that it can be repeated in the weeks and months ahead and it may of
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course be that this person also was inspired by similar attack either in russia or perhaps more likely because it gets more publicity somewhere like the states particularly going away back to columbine you've been watching our rolling coverage today here in r.t. of the mass shooting at a school at a technical college in eastern try me today in the city of courage that left nineteen instead we'll have the latest on that person the story still at the top of the list. that and. the phone.
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