three in st petersburg russia well in a bid for transparency twitter has published some nine million tweets from thousands of accounts they believe were run by stud trolls and if you like us find the data more than a bit difficult to interpret were not conclusions have already been drawn by the digital forensic research lab twitter gave the group early access to the database and they put out a four part report where they outlined the major takeaways and some may surprise you for example the russian internet research agency's main target was apparently in fact russian speakers a chart breaking down what language tweets were written and shows that for years those in russian vastly outweighed those an english rather interesting given how influential the fake accounts activity was meant to be among american voters intelligence sources tell n.b.c. news there is no doubt the russians are trying to influence the presidential election russia's blatant interference in the united states twenty sixteen presidential elections the fact is russia meddled in our twenty sixteen elections

but speaking of influence the positive conclusion of this is that the trolls were less effective than may have been feared many achieve little or no impact and their operations were washed away in the final hours of twitter according to the group's analysis the apparently ineffective russian operation had multiple goals including to prevent hillary clinton from winning the election that's something we've heard time and again and it's true that a good number of the tweets are anti hillary but those post didn't gain much traction whereas anti trump accounts such as these did the plus side to trump becoming more on hinge by the days more people are finally realizing that maybe having a treasonous man sick child predator white supremacist in the white house maybe isn't such a good thing if you think that drill donald trump is the worst president america ever had he's not worthy to be called a human being. according to the report such

a liberal accounts engage other users and much higher numbers meaning the trolls were much more successful at getting people to bash trump the man they were meant to be getting to the white house and the trolls were also found to have push anti russian stances they spread some content that was notably anti russian which highlights a key assessment of dissin from ation if successful in driving a country further apart rather than closer together internally that country would be less able to enact anti russian policy those gift tweeting trolls are clearly so smart they even outsmarted themselves like so much of the output of the internet research agency in st petersburg it had nothing to do with the election two thirds of them came out after the election some supporters some against him some for clinton though some against it and some of the russian language as well so it's a completely mixed bag of course you could say what are they doing it at all why they doing it and so you could say a lot of it is to do it with

a kidnapping i mean it's not you know with twitter is different but basically like so many of these posts on social media it's all about advertising it's all about raising profile so it's in my view a lot of this is making a mountain out of the mole hill in the end the report warns that despite twitter's best efforts and the fact that the troll farms goals went woefully unfulfilled they all mined this information war will soldier on be aware on average about it today for the latest at the top of the hour. this is because report you know we're still in vegas my wife got to be careful you

know never go. oh well. that was close. you got me. right max so i have a very good headline because we are at a security conference here in las vegas the host conference and there is this there's been a strange story going on in the united states about these sort of chips that china allegedly planted on all these important infrastructure relating to amazon apple and some other stuff so we're going to look at this because all these huge corporations. like very specifically demaio any of this story but we're going to look at the first story from bloomberg this was got a lot of attention in the united states the big hack how china used tiny chip to infiltrate u.s. companies the attack by chinese spies recently thirty u.s.

companies including amazon and apple by compromising america's technology supply chain according to extensive interviews with government and corporate sources so they use i think seventeen sources just like a seventeen intelligence agencies that we keep on hearing about but they have these anonymous sources that claim that these companies including amazon and apple had been basically compromised by a chip that was placed in devices being built in china and they point out in particular they actually have data on all sorts of facts that they claim happened in twenty fifteen amazon dot com incorporated began quietly evaluating a startup called el. mental technologies a potential acquisition to help with major expansion of its streaming video service known as amazon prime video based in portland oregon elemental made software for compressing massive video files and formatting them for a different devices its technology had helped stream the olympic games communicate

with the international space station and drone footage at the central intelligence agency the cia elementals national security contracts worth the main reason for the acquisition but they fit nicely with amazon's government businesses such as the highly secure cloud that amazon web services was building for the cia and then the article goes on to claim that amazon found a little chip on some of the devices and that the f.b.i. and cia and software working with. but now they are they categorically deny it but it's an interesting story well you know if you think of course amazon competes with alibaba alibaba chinese corporation and any way that they can undermine alibaba in some way the chinese authority in some way it plays into their global expansion efforts but this on a broader scale scale is another sign of the end of globalization because up until

recently corporations had an incentive to cooperate to be globally. impactful and there is a tremendous need to coordinate financial policy economic policy currency policies in the u.s. and china for example would keep the peg to the dollar to allow for exports into the u.s. which would give people cheaper goods in exchange for jobs and nobody questioned this trump has overthrown this world order and we're back to a neo mercantilist i'm it's every country for themselves there's not going to be any globalization anymore all these global groups the i.m.f. the world bank the united nations are all being dismantled nato is being dismantled as we enter this century of the century of g d o mark until has them and of course this is no one in very dangerous because now you've got all these countries are going to be competing with each other to the level of where it was before world war one which led to world war but on the other hand it's very exciting because it

means american workers are going to have a chance to compete finally in the global economy yes there is an emerging sort of consensus that's being pushed that china is somehow a quiet and we have been have infiltrated as we see this we see this across both parties we see this across the entire spectrum of america is. our economy has been hollowed out our position on the world stage has declined people are starting to come up with their own alternatives to our instrument of control which is the u.s. dollar even germany allies like that so it's interesting that all these like mysterious forces that you can't possibly see it's as mysterious as communism an ideology which infected americans in the thirty's and forty's it's this mysterious force of these these secret agents from russia and china who are overwhelming us they're the barbarians they're the visigoths and the vandals they're they're these

people that are coming after us and there's no hard data but here they're saying like in the original bloomberg piece they point out the elementals servers could be found at the department of defense data centers the cia's drone operations and that onboard networks of navy warships and elemental was just one of hundreds of super micro customers now again these companies deny it this is the interesting thing is usually so like when edward snowden revealed all the data about the n.s.a. and working with certain corporations and telecom companies they they all issued vague miles very very vague nothing specific in. any lawyer could see that they had all sorts of get out clauses especially that they were under n.s.a. gag order is what apple has denied that there are under any gag order amazon the same so what they hear is the follow up the big hack statements from amazon apple super micro and chinese government amazon said it's untrue that a w.-s.

knew about a supply chain compromised an issue with malicious chips or hardware modifications when acquiring the elemental it's also untrue the a.w.l.'s knew about service containing malicious chips or modifications and data centers based in china or that works with the f.b.i. to investigate or provide data about malicious hardware. apple gets even more specific and. i mean china is in the software it's in the hardware as opposed to this so-called threat from russia where they're spreading means that influence people to vote against their better interest they put a meme of bernie sanders as a buff beach. body builder and this worked the mines of america to vote against their interest but china is actually infiltrating the hardware with actual chips trying this actually approaching the software with actual malicious software that's ok we're going to talk about that because actually to hillary's gonna be you know amusing because after all she can't possibly be held to account for catastrophic

failure because her personality is one of that of steaming pile of nothingness i mean the total politics is mis directed away from a genuine threat vector that being fricken infiltration of the software on the hardware by the top computer in the global sheer well ok let's go into more specific because we don't know that this actually happened. something's going on but apple said this is their statement on this we can be very clear apple has never found malicious chips hardware manipulations or volatile bill of these purposely planted in any server of ours apple never had any contact with the f.b.i. or any other agency about such an incident we are not aware of any investigation by the f.b.i. nor are our contacts in law enforcement we are deeply disappointed that in their

dealings with us bloomberg supporters have not been open to the possibility that they or their sources might be wrong or misinformed which is maybe them also saying disinformed they were being disinformed about something going on and i have another headline after this to tell you how that might be the case. apple's claiming a bloomberg news essentially or just like the iraqi invasion and new york times were useful idiots for the cia who wanted an invasion or some sort of agency that wanted an invasion of iraq that they were being fed just information and we know right now in particular especially the media and the resistance are in total awe of anybody from the f.b.i. or cia so they're going to print the resistance like anything they have to say but . here is one thing trump is a smart guy and he sees how the media is in love with with the f.b.i.

and in love with the cia and well like prince whatever they say. one big thing scooped this is from. the trumpet ministrations secret anti china plans the trumpet ministration is planning to launch a major administration wide broadside against china according to two sources briefed on the sensitive internal discussions these sources who weren't authorized to discuss the plans with the media told me the effort is expected to launch in the next few weeks by the way this article in x.t.'s was was published in september earlier september before this information about the chinese chips came out and they said they were broadside against china which is planned to be both rhetorical and substantial will be administration wide including the white house led by senior officials on the national security council treasury commerce and defense we're not just going to let russia be the bogeyman one white house official told me as russia and china it's like

a bipartisan bogeyman and they're pivoting away from russia as the bogeyman to china is a big myth because the cost advantages of a can china the bogeyman is a lot more advantageous to chop in the american economy than you know pipsqueak russia when it comes to comparing these two seventeen trillion dollar economy and there's no point in trying to make hillary look good anymore they've got a chance to twenty twenty and start to run twenty twenty but if i understand what you're saying there they can infer what you're implying is that this is a false flag. well i don't know about foss like such a loaded phrase. put fake news and i'm saying that somebody may i don't know the truth about this somebody claims somebody anonymous sources seventeen sources within the u.s. intelligence agencies and governments told them some information that there had been chips planted by china. continues to be more reporting on that we don't know

for a fact who is right who is wrong apple could be lying about this they could be hiding something that could be. i believe hearing that we just gave it to china and it's being politically motivated but here yes this was a few weeks before this information emerged that there was apparently there are discussions within the chump administration to find a reason to go after china they might think it's a good a vote winner coming in two thousand and twenty we already know is a vote winner in terms of they took our jobs and now they're taking our our secrets you know they're accessing our secrets by a secret sort of stuff on computers oh you know everybody nobody understands a computer all right so what do you think up there you know put in the comments below what your thoughts are is this bloomberg story some kind of wacky false flag or is it just utter confusion out there in the world of technology right we'll be back after the break don't go away.

what politicians do you should. put themselves on the line they get accepted or rejected. so when you or the president. wanted. to go on. this is what. you do get. interesting. welcome back to the kaiser report i'm nice keyser time mentor of turner a conversation with crypto mogul trace mayer trace welcome back to be here max all

right so let's get back into what we were discussing about back to which is this new new york stock exchange initiative they're doing deals with starbucks and microsoft it's really laid out early on going back to a big going to twenty five cents or seven network effects to be aware of as we head toward world domination for big going and we're well into those seven network effects and so let's focus on back for a second they are going to open the door to possible financialization now financialization is part of the network effects some are fearing that this will give wall street a way to swartz the progress of big coin as they do in the gold market. your thoughts i'm just not worried about at all i mean what's the worst that they can do sell a bunch of big when they don't have and fail on on the contract to somebody right that's i mean there's

a worse and what's going to do it's going to suppress the price which means that people are going to be able to buy more big cornetto or price so whoever gets stuck with the failure to deliver you know or or get stuck with the contract where they can't deliver the big point well they're going to take a wasp but whoever bought the big point at the lower price will get the gain let's talk about naked shorting for a second so with naked shorting the wall street essentially selling stock or selling futures contracts that they're printing at the same time that they're on collateralized they they're not backed by anything and if the price of something like gold goes up and they don't want to go up they can flood the market with sell orders from naked short sells of contracts that they are printing like you would print money these are fee out orders and it's been proven and documented that this own. in all the time he and i most consultancy gad i've been involved in their stuff for over ten years so i mean i'm very thoroughly aware what's going on at the gold and i trust action committee and i mention that because a link to this will get another ten thousand views anyway but because. that is not

the case because really this work to make it short selling a huge way because the high dollar last result has control of the private number one so that you could on mass take delivery of those keys you can't do in goal because it's cash livery and nobody has the answers and it's so much more expensive i mean look at germany when germany decided that they wanted to be a hardware of last resort and said give us eight hundred tonnes of physical gold how much how much did it cost to move all of that to transport it to verify the quantity and the quality of it every day twenty billion dollars plus a big point gets melted down and recast into new you t.x. those verifying the quantity and the quality with one hundred percent on every transaction you can move one hundred million dollars a big one for ten cents and so i mean you can't do that with gold does does wall street even understand the liability that they are potentially opening themselves up to or they just going to stumble into this get burned and then learn the hard way i sure hope they don't

understand it you know because i would discount him well that's happening right now as they try to position themselves into this market there are a sloppy in the options market and for trued traders you can scout them all day long as they move into a second idea and this is more of a contentious idea i want to get thoughts on it it mean is possible if worse comes to worse or there's an open warfare between the hardliners and wall street it's possible to fork and we can fork yeah i broke my fork on those of years and we're right. now explain how that would work a little bit yeah so i mean. there's several different ways that happens one is when the four captains they don't if you don't have the private key is you don't get the fork you know so what happens if your coin base and you go in you're supposedly holding a whole bunch of big point and then big cash comes out and all your customers are you have to give you the big going cash and you might actually have a legal duty to do it because otherwise it would be unjust enrichment or some type

of fraud or whatever right like how are you going to deliver the underlying and then what happens if there gets to be a little bit of squeeze on the underlying just for the fun of it the wall street can get all they want because at the end of the day we can get forked yeah they can go forward if they for too much they'll get baked unbacked. back. i mean they're really in a difficult position because how did they acquire a position in big corn you know in fifty thousand big quine's isn't cool like hundreds of thousands of the coin now that's cool but fifty thousand is not and so they think that they're going to come and play in this space and they're going to bring the rules from the old system where you're settling into something that's not limited in amount strictly that's not going to work you're playing with a new technology here and the hardware is a last resort and a lot of ways i mean they're not just a freight train they're like a glacier i mean you're going to like how do you. this is going to get

effortlessly pushed out of the way by the hot owners excellent point you've just returned from d.c. where there was some c.f.d. see hearings related to big clean what can you tell us about what you saw yes i attended the technical advisory committee meeting it was broadcast open to the public also the new commissioners are very interested and declined stuff the virtual currency subcommittee took up a vast bulk of the time and they're trying to figure out mainly you know of course there's the m.l.k. y.c. issue but the really big issue is custody like. how do these institutions. custody large amounts a big coin and. you know we had a lot of those that we were building in armory but for whatever reason like you know we didn't i didn't continue to fund it and part of that you know i would say was hey if wall street institutions want to buy because they can build their own custody solution ok speaking in and keeps the price down so i acquire more big one in the meantime so why why build the custody solution so i mean they're really kind

of in a pickle while they are going forward so gemini the whittle takes a long time to build the stuff you will not they're building it like gemini for example the winklevoss twins in new york they've got custody services they're offering plus. insurance they're going to start insuring these deposits as well these big clean holdings is that's a that's a big that's for the network effect right oh yeah that's that goes right into financialization because you need insurance on the d.c. owes in the cess and they talked about that you know right now the insurance at the tack at the see if you see meeting like the hot wallets they usually get insured to at most maybe like fifty million warm wallets five hundred million in cobol it's like two billion so even right now like the insurance companies are playing in the space but large amounts of capital are not here i mean we're talking hundreds of billions of dollars that's when things start getting interesting. they've also a gemini also create a stable coin that's compliant with new york laws so your thoughts on these

so-called stable coaling what do you think they're i mean it's crazy who's new york to think that they get annoyed somebody issue a federal reserve notes on a block chain and have a not be counterfeiting under federal law i mean you know i federal preemption issues you've got all different countries like there's a chinese stable coin i coming out on by an answer ok coin or something. there's definitely a market for it look at tether but you know. there's just a whole lot going on there you have chinese exchanges that don't want an m l k y c compliance table coin in some cases so it's you know so. going to china is china going to go from being wary and concerned about big point because it's a decentralized technology and a very centralized economy being a country that starts to see it as a strategic reserve and as they do battle with the u.s. dollar and could that set off like almost a space race of countries mining to create sure tejas reserves going forward

could you see that happen yes a supposedly there are some african central banks that are actually starting to hold big coin they're doing it through things like open dime. china specifically i think they're going to get caught flat footed again just like they did with silver you know and they lost seventy percent. weight with that transition so i think i think india and china you know banning big changes in india clamping down on the entrepreneurial process in china the great fire wall well i think they're just the same song second verse they're going to get hit flat footed again the chinese during the silver stand still or stand that in the thirty's yes so they were the last to basically do monetize silver and move over to gold in as a result they they're the ones left holding the bag just like africans holding gold glass beads or you know whoever holds the the inferior technology in stone age and then because of a lack of stones like we're in

a new age now in big points here and there is nothing on the horizon with anything close to these network effects right let's talk quickly no as you mention nothing like it but the old coin market tumbly a fund of strength points to certain sectors of emerging from oddities platforms privacy exchange a stable point so he's he's separating this market into these different categories all coins your thoughts. in just getting a border rated why because almost all of them have no use case then a lot of them are built on top of the theory and who has been able to sink into theory and form know from scratch in any time recently i mean it's just absurd like the lack of scale ability there. and then you've got root stock and maybe i see oh the star getting done on rootstock would be a big point in so i think in a lot of cases these i ceo's have way over shot and then corrected and you know and then when that safety and liquidity starts to dry up people will need to cash out in order to get into something more stable and so we've seen

a lot of the capital flowing out of the into theory i'm out of the theory i'm into big pointer dollars and but if the next big bubble has i.c.a.o. or whatever bubble was taking place on big coin be a root stock you know what's what's what use case there's a theory i'm have. that now be a big zippo ungenerous and it's an awful us big cooling yeah buddy of mine. well known between when i spoke to him the other night and he said that he thought smart contracts or impossible on big cooling trace mayor your thoughts. on the show i mean for we got signature going on. between us age no i mean smart contracts are definitely possible it's just how do you really want to do it and blocks from just launched a liquid which is a side chain you know. when added back announced there was a there was a me mike and suddenly millions of all coins cried out and then there was silence.

so you know what we can do so many of these things on site chains and then you got interoperability and since it's you've got big coin impregnated into it you've got a floor on what the thing can be worth because you can always take it out of the side and back into the main big one but understand this argument that you can't do you know one contract for all the reasons you just said and then look at whitening network you know like so we've got a whole bunch of stuff that's already happening there it's how complicated you want these smart contracts to be a big point scripting language is much more narrow as opposed to like therians but that's for security purposes i mean you you can. build an insecure wear on top of the secure but not vice versa and big point is the secure way or in a theory is not look at the dow look at the scale ability look at the full nodes being sunk from scratch it's a real problem great so people say that unless your own a node you're not really fully supportive. you know something you would

agree well i have how i kind of phrase it is if you want to choose to be a first class pick point citizen you write a full note and do your validation and you hold your own private key if you want to be a third class they're going to descend like holder coins on mt gox we see what happens to people that are third class that when citizens they get obliterated you know and that's because they're not taking the security seriously if you have five dollars a pick one point five dollars a thought into securing it if you have a bunch more put a bunch more thought into securing. our use of pickling right here in the kaiser report thank you thank you so much max well that's going to do it for this edition of the kaiser report with me max kaiser as a server or i think our guest trace may are going to catch us on twitter it's kaiser report or you know it download different apps watch us in your taxi that's every fricken taxi driver in vegas is doing and so next time bio.

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