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tv   Sophie Co  RT  October 19, 2018 3:30am-4:00am EDT

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oh. join me every thursday on the alex i'm i'm sure i'll be speaking to a guest of the world of politics sports business i'm show business i'll see a. welcome to sophie shevardnadze as the second meeting between the leaders of the u.s. and north korea is on the horizon questions remain while north korea give up its nuclear weapons for good or are we going to thrust in another round of chance my
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guests today. president of the korea and such as for the international economic policy. there's light at the end of the tunnel for the korean peninsula the threat of imminent war has passed for now with the north and south leaders shaking hands and planning meetings with the american president. prevail and bring about a career without nuclear weapons is kim jong un's peace overtures and donald trump's sudden about face trustworthy so what can the rest of the world do to help begins the catastrophic conflict is spreading this year we thank you for being with us today delighted to have you so recently the north korean leader wrote a warm letter to president truong and now we see that a second meeting may be on the cards just can we expect any tangible results from it. but there might be a new summit between donald trump. seems that this time it will be
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a more productive meeting and we can expect tangible results of course their views on the denuclearization of north korea are somewhat different at this point. america says the nuclearization first got the while north korea thinks that we need to end the war and then move forward i think that both leaders are choosing the peaceful path and if that is the case they will reach a solution to the nuclear problem what's up and i am hopeful that will happen at that was at the. e.c. not too long ago seriously ask people on american t.v. if the u.s. should bomb north korea so they really were on the brink of war and now they're about to meet for the second time does it mean that the worst is over what do you think. that is the. last year everybody was concerned or on the korean peninsula was inevitable but now the situation has changed drastically there is movement towards peace last year that that wouldn't have even
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dreamed about this of course this will take time but i think gradually both the united states and north korea of the nuclear problem on the korean peninsula that is. what was our present trump acted towards north korean leader when he wrote mean things on twitter called him names sent out and then we called and now america and north korea have unprecedented lee a translation national trust was behaving this way he was criticized for acting with such recklessness but now i guess it turns out that he did everything right still until probably in. that the board things have stabilized to degree and i think these are wise choices that people have made at the maybe it was trickle trump late in order to make north korea participate in dialogue but the situation in north korea has changed as well to. current leader kim jong un is like
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a young gorbachev his vision is different from the ideas of he's predecessors americans think that the soviet union fell because of u.s. sanctions but it is not true and we see the same situation now in north korea americans think that sanctions against north korea are forcing the koreans to talk but it is only one of the factors that now the situation in north korea is a little different it's opened up to kim jong un has a different vision now and he's ready for disarmament rather is it. you know i think i think that maybe he just outsmarted every one for us he's scared the world with nuclear weapons presenting the worst case scenario and he's capitalizing on that saying ok i will not make nuclear weapons let's be friends. compared to the united states and other countries north korea is a small states but it is that they cannot fool the whole world if they deceived or fooled the world then we cannot expect anything good to come out of that then move
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i think they understand this and unlike previous leaders of his country or. once a different results out there and that inspires hope. right now trump and the north korean leader are exchanging pleasantries but the south korean leader is also doing his part to any relations between south and north korea's are getting better what can we expect from this policy. is that you know. administration in south korea is trying and will continue to try to engage north korea in dialogue even before the first united states north korea some at all we were doing something to ensure that summit would actually take place and now korea is playing a major role as well it is the connecting the bridge organism important for the united states and north korea to come to an understanding right and our government is playing a very important role bringing those two together but it's this is how the current
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administration is different and we're also seeing its positives results. on no i remember when the next round of harsh sanctions against north korea was being discussed president clinton said that sanctions don't work especially in the case of north korea because its people are not scared of difficult this song but why is north korea making concessions now we see in the rhetoric's they say that they are ready for it to nuclearization all right we're ready to give up nuclear weapons. in reality sanctions against north korea is just one factor played a part in the current state i think it's like we're north korea decided to talk to the united states and south korea at the north korean became a state also that sanctions were immediately imposed from day one of its existence it is an important factor but it is not the only one. but when the situation got really dicey at the end of last year and it felt like war was inevitable things
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suddenly began to change south korea never stopped trying to talk to the north and the p. and chong olympics allowed us to make significant progress so it was a good excuse and a good opportunity to sit down together thoughts. and both countries came to an understanding during the storks which is north koreans also did not once a mistress chance to talk to us and then after the talks south korea's signals to the united states to china to russia and japan that there was progress to be made and that north korea was really in dialogue. and now we all see progress which means that it wasn't just the sanctions that made a difference north korean leader kim jong un was educated in the west and he understands what is really important now for his country and the important thing is to be able to feed the nation by just going to the impossible without dialogue and
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nuclear disarmament north korea understands that it will not prosper without peace that's for sure. not sure anything about keeping the regime alive it was obvious to everybody that everyone sat the north korean leader needs nuclear weapons to prop up the current regime it's to guarantee of his safety in the region and he's saying again those are just words for now but he is willing to give up nuclear weapons does this mean that he has some other guarantees stronger. nuclear weapons. you know when you are starving but you have nuclear weapons that is a road to nowhere and it could spell doom for north korea first and foremost so current leader kim jong un is young she studied abroad in a western country and he understands western culture at that if you give up nuclear weapons you can develop your country and your economy and i think this is what he's
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thinking. but nobody might that but he needs guarantees that no one will interfere in his country's affairs and if the international community and countries like the united states russia china and japan provide such guarantees it is entirely possible that north korea will do nuclear rise and i. just need guarantees from the countries that he has some kind of trust him. because business as such him see why i would say will make close relations with north korea that it has today what is the aim of his policy and what about north korea why would they need to grow closer now. as you know. peace and prosperity the. similar thing that's a very diplomatic answer let me ask in a different way what is more afraid of north korea nuclear missiles or a war in order to destroy a north korean nuclear missile what are you more afraid of being. chilled wait bush
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. after the korean war koreans have always felt threatened. on the one hand everyone is used to that but on the other hand everyone holds an actual war is out of the question being at this but no less important maybe the most important thing even more is the economic aspect of the me just not from a humanitarian points if you have these so korea being divided into parts of north and south of course it's a terrible thing so it's about our economic speaking it is. so much worse. is stagnating now the population is decreasing young people have to feed the elderly and they need to make more money out of egypt so we need new opportunities and. our economy would be great if such opportunities opened up the sky thanks to north korea we could explore your asian markets more including russia. versified our economy based on the peace and prosperity of the korean peninsula and strengthen
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our size with india with the so-called southern regions this is all very important to us that is why our current government and our people want to peaceful resolution to the nuclear problem and closer ties with north korea. do you think truong might be expected to make some concessions in response to kim's actions military exercises conducted in korean orders expect something like that to happen . it's already happening the u.s. military has suspended military exercises with south korea but then with pathetically did it because north korea stopped the nuclear testing at the end started to dismantle some of its missile launch sites that the best deal and then came the mutual concessions these are the positive results of the u.s. north korea summit but it will take not one not take five six seven summits to
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ensure we do not go back to the way things work. on this actual break right now when we're back we'll continue talking to jane young president for the korean state of the international economic policy stay with us. when the lawmakers manufactured them sentenced him to public wealth. when the ruling classes and project themselves. in the final clearing go round certainly the one percent.
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we're back with j. young leave present for the korean sit ups the international economic policy mr lee of cool that way what well do you think russia could play in this in opinion what can russia to to normalize the situation is in you know civil. you know this status quo we have in terms of north korea's denuclearization stems from the differences between the united states and north korea russia needs to play an even more active role on the community. strategically speaking for example that can be accomplished by a trilateral cooperation between north korea south korea and russia i believe that north korea will be ready to nuclearize very soon there could be an agreement about some of the nuclear weapons and materials to be taken to russia and disposed of there then on the basis of mutual trust the united states and russia could help
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north korea in the energy center on the job for example build a gas pipeline of. trucks with this north korea would open up to the world. that's how we could solve this issue as well at this way united states russia relations will improve i mean this possible cooperation will avoid getting sanctions with almost. what else i think trade between russia and south korea facilitate closer ties between the north and south and in geographically it would involve transit through north korean territory which would mean more cooperation between russia south korea and north korea in order to expand trade. one of the main obstacles for the far eastern development is the instability on the korean peninsula as soon as there is peace on the korean peninsula would have incredible potential for mutually beneficial development not
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only for the far east but also north east asia as a whole but russia wants to cooperate with the asia pacific that is the center of a global economic growth the far east and north korea will be the engine of economic growth in the twenty first century. is growing and the korean peninsula is a door to the asia pacific region as a whole if peace prevails here russia will be able to have economically beneficial relations not only with the west but also with the asia pacific. economic. well we touched on this before the interview with all the sanctions between russia and the west and the latest u.s. and european sanctions against russia is turning east but look at this forum for instance it cleary proves that russia is seriously about this pivot to say will benefit from that i don't know maybe by taking this vacated by western partners or russia. i'm very happy that russia is paying closer attention to the
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east including korea korea used to be russia's partners we cooperated see as well it would be nice to build all that but we definitely need to bolster our ties i very much hope we will meet many times in the future here and at the eastern economic forum that russian made possible in ten years i think russia will be a true asian country not only in the jungle africa's sense yes but also economically that is why i think. the economy. right now the u.s. is south korea's closest partner nor any country which is out of tune with american foreign policy towards russia is heavily criticized by united states and this could pressure on for instance there is a number of european countries which are not very good to impose sanctions on russia but what is pressured by the u.s. since the e.u. itself is under american influence they have to obey and imposed sanctions aren't
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you afraid the south korea being such a close american partner would not be allowed by washington to become friends with russia. you know i think that one day sanctions will disappear like snow under the sun. but it will take time for your country and for us and the whole world economy the sanctions imposed on russia by the united states and the e.u. have a clear detrimental effect. screw operation efforts throughout the world. i think that some day us russian relations will improve and when the day finally comes we have to be ready we need to start preparing the foundations for that other. one of those allies asking aren't you afraid the south korea will simply not be allowed to develop closer ties with russia. south korea may be
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a small country but we are a sovereign nation we are not subjects of america even though it is an important partner. but there are many ways in which we are independent from america we have the right to choose our own destiny for example the size of our economy besides america and japan who would be happy to develop relations with russia with the eurasian continent on the whole with nations of any kind with india yet there is nothing bad about that is there no i don't believe that we are america's puppets no that is definitely not us because at the pilots i want some people are talking about a possible to nuclearization of the korean peninsula and they're saying that north korea might finally give up its nuclear weapons and eventually sign a treaty with you if that happens will south korea have any meat for years troops on a peninsula or will you say so long we don't need you anymore now that the threat is gone home. well denuclearization and north korea are not directly
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tied to the presence of united states troops in south korea but i do not think u.s. forces will be staying here forever. these two factors should not be perceived as related to one another this is the way we see things right now our priority clear is a shows where it's. not supposed to they. don't trump on came john goodman or building bridges to ties between washington and beijing are becoming strained one could play on young somehow take advantage show the crisis in u.s. china relations it could attempt to bargain for concessions by capitalizing on u.s. china tensions for instance. oh you know. china has a strong influence on north korea and so does america and russia north korea is very important to us in order to resolve the issue of north korea's nuclear program
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we will require support from all parties including a major powers as the us china russia and japan without the help of these nations we will not be able to secure a full day nuclearization and achieve peace and prosperity on the korean peninsula but i say this because i want to emphasize just how important russia's role is to this and tire thing what's what's the boss. i said i'd like to ask you something when north korea and america had per america blame china blame beijing for manipulating north korea now the relations between north korea and america have improved i don't see anyone in the knowledge ing beijing's role or thinking china say commanding north korea to improve relations with america other words when relations are bad between north korea and the u.s. it's china's fault but if relations do improve then certainly china had nothing to do with it so how come. yet the. scope of the trade war between china and india. states is heating up the poor and that is theory very unfortunate
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because the lack of close cooperation between the two powers makes it impossible to resolve the north korean issue. trump is very aggressive right now with respect to beijing isn't ham he's taking some unexpected and have a hand in measures against china economy so wear it on the markets are bracing for a new round in the tariff for that but what if all those threats are no different from what trump it with kim stores korea germany or what he did and he kept the piling on threats until the two leaders finally met and declared peace i wonder if he's planning to do the same with china i mean he will keep issuing threats until he makes a sudden you turn to or supply and he could couldn't he. look at the most. the way i see it is a little bit different. under the obama administration the problem was that's from america's few point trade with china seemed unfair to hope that was the way they
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saw it at the cup but now under trump we'll see there's a multitude of grievances with china's policies and this is not just about national security it's also about stealing technology it's about copyright law and u.s. intellectual property and so on still the united states and china need to negotiate and arrive at a solution to this trade war it's all dragging on and i think it was the fault lies with china america is worried about its technology being stolen and this is what i believe america is most afraid of and that is why there are tensions. and if there's one thing i don't get are this two countries really that much at odds with one another that they prevent each other from prospering i mean how serious are they actually cannot make tensions between china and america i mean really. the young oh yes well unfortunately they are quite real recently the. institute for
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international economic policy investigated the way united states sanctions against chinese goods affected korea's economy and what we found was that the entire situation was restricting curious economic opportunities so far the effect hasn't been too severe but if the tensions continue to rise and if it goes on like that for some time it will become a threat to our economy and to the region's economy as a whole idea. of what concession as they make that china is because they were this construction project of the century and i'm talking about the new silk road project they're constructing infrastructure all throughout your asia when will this mega project be launched will china even care by that point about some tariffs on them by a trunk and you. americans are very very closely monitoring this right now they have taken the wait and see
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approach want to see what it all leads to. confidence i mean russia china in korea is a need of a high speed rail system and if american invest in it with their capital and their technology and joins in i believe that will guarantee high efficiency and mutually beneficial. effects. thank you very much for the conversation and i wish. the gruesome plot thickens the saudis now with. died in their custody after an interrogation that went wrong turkish media claim they have. evidence of
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