the now co-host of the p.b.s. show in brazil and a former staffer to senate majority leader bill frist who gave those it will start with you the administration says it is not providing cover for the saudi government over this mess what do you make of it well look we have to remember that the president it's a businessman and i think it's looking at the bottom line and the fact of the matter is that anything any possible things that he does with saudis you know it could affect. their bottom line and it can affect them it can affect the country economically and i'm referring to to selling weapons to to saudi arabia so now you know whether it's a cover up or not it's hard to tell at this point but what he should have done though it instead of trying to throw excuses on twitter he should have said the united states is going to get involved in this investigation we're going to get to the bottom of this and i know they said that they're going to wait until the saudis finish their internal investigation but i don't think that's it i think we should

move now we should move quickly i mean. well in fact we are moving now the president he dispatched his. he dispatch mike pompei o. to saudi arabia immediately to meet with the saudi royals and to hear their version of events i think the saudis they're trying to provide diplomatic cover for themselves because they're getting so much criticism from the united states from you know foreign policy experts who follow these things closely and of course turkey that has an interest in stirring things up and being aggressive when it comes to saudi arabia so that they have these tapes tapes of the journalist you know screaming in agony as he's being dismembered alive if that's true will certainly i have to believe that our cia has a copy of those tapes they're analyzing it to try to authenticate it and we're seeing in the business world and i'm happy to see this a lot of business leaders are dropping out of what was supposed to be billed as

davos in the desert in saudi arabia where saudi arabia is trying to attract foreign business investment from the united states and around the world so a lot of things are being done again as i say we have to authenticate whether or not those turkish tapes are real and then the saudis they're going to have to come up with an explanation the one that they seem to be floating at the moment after previously denying any knowledge or that anything like this happened is that maybe it was a different faction within the saudi government so they're scrambling because they need this story themselves jose said to lindsey graham said this week that saudi crown prince mohammed bin solomon has got to go lindsey graham has long been a defender of saudi arabia what do you make of that turn around while i think the evidence speaks for itself i think at this point it's safe to say that we know that this this reporter from the washington from the washington post was brutally murdered i agree with amy and i'm and i'm also glad to see that there's a lot of business leaders who said that they would rule from the conference in

saudi arabia that's a good step in the right direction. but that's not enough and the fact that demonstration from our side is going to saudi arabia to hear. their side of the story of the saudis i mean we already know the story we know what happened we need more evidence yes but it's clear that he was murdered he was murdered in the consulate of saudi arabia and we must do more we must do more i think at the beginning we we know the saudis they lie they say they they they they knew nothing of this and now all of a sudden they do so we know we're dealing with and i think again i think the president to take this very seriously and the love of conference j. morgan chase ford motor car domestic car but u.s. treasury secretary steve munson is to attend. well i think that's a matter of you know u.s. diplomacy and depending on what we hear from the saudis in terms of you know this

dreadful dreadful thing i'm not necessarily sure that he should go to this ministration they need to you know have a sort of a clear line once they are satisfied with the information of what happened with what happened they're rewarding the saudis with the trip by our u.s. treasury secretary we're not i don't nestlé think would be a great idea but i want to get back to lindsey graham i must say though that his remark really surprised me in part because the united states has no power to overthrow or to push aside the crown prince so i was surprised by that and perhaps it was in a moment you know a deep anger and irritation and letting the saudis know that you know for we're not going to tolerate this grim goes back and forth supporting the president not supporting the president engine cia i know lindsey. other areas jose donald trump said he's not to blame is the g.o.p.

something significant losses in the midterms however we all know instance g.o.p. does not suffer significant losses he will take the credit when you make them that's nathan and jose he's not to blame he's not he's not to blame when things are going wrong and he has any you know he's victorious when things are going his way that's donald trump or you i think part of this larry. we don't know the facts i mean we know that donald trump he oversees he represents the g.o.p. he represents the republican party whether he wants to or not i have documents or whether he's even a republican but going back to your point absolutely he should take the blame or the victor if the g.o.p. those well what we have seen i think in the last two years or so is that every time you try to support candidates our republican candidates number one be either try to distance the. well from the president in if they allowed him to get close then they stop or in the polls i think we're going to start to look at that in florida. there

governor's race to be exact. this on tuesday was running against andrew gholam he's he's a supporter of the president and he's invited the president to come to florida and you know polls are we're still we know we're still a little bit under twenty something days before the election but from what i've seen every time the president tries to get involved with any candidate for the most part on they don't do so well into any where do you think well as they say success has a thousand handmaidens and failure is an orphan so donald trump what would he be doing to being a politician and we remember back and the previous administration that president obama didn't necessarily want to take blame or credit pretend you know depending on your point of view this huge losses in his first midterm election over sixty seats that were lost by democrats in the house i should add that president trump has come out and said that that a.p. headline is fake news. so you get overly was getting criticism and republicans

don't necessarily want the president states to be broadcasting the possibility that this election is not going to go well your sister you know kind of be cheering and rooting for her to write and write and up until the end or jose on your side of the ledger going into iowa and south carolina joe biden when cory booker and senate tamala harris a piece on politico wednesday says that send the hammers team has identified a clear path to the nomination for her can tell mamma her win the nomination do you think jose impala barack obama. it's way too early to tell my thing we had to get get past the punish lancôme in a business member before we get talking about twenty twenty but look what i would say is this i am optimistic about the lineup of talent that we have in the democratic party i think come our harry would be a tremendous choice i mean we have. a was that he's going to make a decision right after the midterms and many others i think nobody will be

a phenomenal president so we have a lot of a lot of choices and i think that's part of the democracy i think where we're going to we're going to lead the american people decide time will tell in the saloon do you make of senator wong was that the stumbling a bit when some clue apparently proves her native american going back. yes she actually proved that she was ninety nine point nine percent european it's this is a huge debacle for senator warren she's been criticized and mocked across the board including by me i mean i saw all of this and i thought you know elizabeth warren is native american as i'm related to the queen of england and my nana was british this is ridiculous and it also underscores her that she has a bit of a tin ear it seems when it comes to this issue donald trump clearly was got under her skin and goading her and she felt that she had to finally respond but the way

that she did as if she was unveiling you know extraordinary fact of native american heritage was just completely bizarre i don't think there are still questions a need to be asked in terms of did she try to benefit professionally or economically from making this claim a harvard still has not released the full employment file for senator warren for her professorship there so there are still going to be a lot of questions people pushing but you saw you saw criticism of this across the board and i have to believe that a lot of democratic potential primary contenders were just laughing and sharpening their knives so any someone said that the president or do a classy thing and donate a million dollars to the i'm a native american movement. well not sure in terms of what that means in the native american movement i mean you have whatever it is. you know all across the country i think it would be. gesture. classy gesture i think he got what he wanted out of which elizabeth warren falling flat on her face jose there are reports out this

week the special counsel robert molo will issue some finding into the alleged collusion between trump of the russians shortly after the midterms what do you make of that. it's going to be interesting i think a man i can both agree that we want we know we want this whole investigation to come to an end we want we want to get to the bottom of this and find out what what mueller has mueller has been very good at keeping a lot of the evidence to himself and his team and they slowly they find out new information they release it so i want to see what i want to see what he has to show the american people often mid terms i mean someone told me to get a date of last time robert muller spoke was on my show on c.n.n. . but he has not spoken. well of course to you larry king. naturally he sees that you know he's a private person he's very highly regarded as we know but there is the possibility

that his report could be kept private that will be a private submission to congressional leaders and i think that would be a great detriment after two years of you know being dragged through all of this and all of these questions so i would prefer that his report be laid bare for the american people to be able to you know read for themselves and draw their own conclusions thank you both very much always great having you with us thank you larry jose any more politicking after the break with ken's star we'll be right back .

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l.f. it was government official the president i don't have faith in the system nicer i've got it so i'm too liberal the system designed for people like. this was a. gift from the poor here for different reasons the loss of job loss of home. most people in philadelphia are only a ballot two paychecks away from home let's. go back to politicking robin miller's investigation into alleged collusion between the

trunk campaign and the russian government as consume much of the media headlines over the last two years but before mama it was ken starr and his multi-year luggin to bill and hillary clinton's dealings real estate and otherwise and that grew in time to encompass president clinton's relationship with the white house in turn stars final report led to the house impeachment of bill clinton in one nine hundred ninety nine but the president's son by the impeach with attempt served out his term and remains a usually popular world figure. ken starr has recently completed a book on his investigation in titled hidden stepped a memoir of the clinton investigation and he stopped by to talk about it with me we got into mullins probe and a lot of the politics too here is the end of you watch before we get to the book ken what do you make of this on. well i think

bob muller who i know from my service alongside bob in the administration of president bush forty one is an honorable guy i know him to be a person of integrity so i think he's an extremely important work thus far obviously he's had some criminal convictions that's a sign of progress and a sign that he knows what he's doing also and this gets less attention larry that i think it should the two indictments returned with a grand jury against the russian nationals in the russian areas aisha's i think it's very important in providing us with very real information real insight into how the russians tried to sow discord and rancor and they certainly been doing a pretty good job of that among the american people he said he's a good man so you don't i guess agree with the president calling it a witch hunt no with all respect to the president of the league and i've heard

those words before i heard them from president clinton and certainly president clinton surrogates it's all witchhunt and yet as you know larry because you were there you covered so much of this we had fourteen i don't brag about this but it's just the fact fourteen criminal convictions in arkansas including the sitting governor of the state i guess most relevantly james and susan mcdougal who were the president of the first lady's business partners and very importantly they were hillary's clients should the president sit down with miller. all right larry that's a tough one. there are two perspectives there probably more than two the first perspective is that of the criminal defense lawyer and the instinct is no don't do it the perspective i have is that of the president being the president states sworn to uphold the law and i believe there is a moral duty on the part of the president to cooperate with the investigation of

the clinton said they were cooperating with my investigation and sometimes they did but frequently they did not ironically the president president trump for all that appears has been cooperating with the investigation but at the same time he's tweeting and saying very naughty things about bob muller in the investigation so there's kind of a two track process going on larry as i see it cooperation on the one hand and yelling at the prosecutor on the other hand ten you said that the president would be well advised to read your book why. well i think it has a lot to. tell us in light of the echoes for one thing we don't know of course where what's going to happen in the midterm elections but there are calls for the a peach of the president i think it this is really something that. the

people around the president i think will argue pretty effectively is that the two presidential page months we have had did not go well andrew johnson back a long time ago right after the civil war and then of course to close out the twentieth century way of jefferson clinton i think that there are mechanisms for the congress to express its disapproval or does approbation of what the president has done short of an impeachment so my book in part is essentially larry a note of caution be careful don't take the country through this very divisive process unless you're confident that you have a supermajority of the american people not a majority a supermajority of the american people saying yes that president should go why did you write contempt what is one my say why are we looking at this again and i know in a lot of new thing is a revealed why why now yo. for one thing larry we were coming up on the

twentieth anniversary and i have been urged for years to write the book of there's so much that was untold or serious consideration of presenting indictment against hillary to the low rock grand jury before it expires in may of one nine hundred ninety eight my reflections on the death of fence and foster jr and then of course most famously the entire lewinsky phase what happened on that fateful day when she told her mother that he wanted her to cooperate with their investigation that she was not going to bring down this and she is a very explosive f. bomb were this president dan and so i think we have a number of things that we're really hidden from view of people weren't hiding them but they just weren't in the public domain but it also seemed to me the right time in light of our history in light of the continuing rank order and the like that it

would be good if we could to even if we oppose the president's policies and i'm speaking that so many people do they oppose the president's policies that somehow we could move back to an era a little bit more of an era of good feeling the kind of era that ronald reagan i served in his administration was able as you well know larry to sit down with the speaker of the house of representatives from another political party a very partisan democrat tip o'neill and the two of them could get along with one of the disagree but they didn't have to yell and scream at one another you write the bill and hillary will fundamentally designs contempt jews of law and process. does trump mask in the in that do you. i think there's some serious issues i just dislike it profoundly when the president any president starts assailing federal judges you know judges are not above criticism i

understand that. but i do think that there needs to be a respect for law for the legal process and i think it needs to be shown at all times i don't think the president has shown respect for the legal process and his attacks on the attorney general and jeff sessions where you agree with jeff sessions or you don't disagree with with him i wrote it editorial larry over a year ago and the headline was pretty was pretty accurate cut it out mr president now i voted for the president and i want him to succeed but i think that some of the things he does is just erodes the rule of law and i'm a rule of law guy. would you have written contempt of hillary clinton or president . it would be a harder call erick one of the reasons that i did write it is that she lost the

election and my personal circumstances are such that i had more freedom to step back and remember this but i want my president to succeed i may not agree with the president who has a b. in power there are many things about president obama that i very much disagreed with but i want my president to succeed i want to country to succeed so i don't know if i would have said ok you need to now write this story when she was the be the duly elected president of a harder call larry you mention brett kavanaugh several times in the book describing him as a guy he member in chief wordsmiths them with the independent counsel brain trusts some people would taken aback by his behavior before the committee told me about it cavanaugh what it what is he like when you think of him as a journalist. he's almost like his son to me or perhaps. a younger brother he's fifty three years old but i am old enough to be as father brett

kavanaugh as a person of integrity and i know these are serious charges that dr ford made i've worked with bret since he was coming off the clerkship with justice kennedy not since he's been a judge of course and larry he's an honest guy he's a good person and honest and good people can do bad things but he said any infallibly tonight that he was the assailant the person high school who did this horrible horrible thing and having worked with him day in and day out and in year in and year out and also just watching him in the office there is not a hint of impropriety some sort of harvey weinstein kind of kind of action or bill cosby kind of a just a gentleman a real gentleman and so i've my heart went out to everyone involved in this but i believe brad kavanagh that he's going to be a great justice do you think the if the democrats get the house they might.

bio impeachment proceedings against trump. well larry there's a lot of talk about that but i'm very thankful that some of the wise and more experienced folks in the party are saying no we're not just i going to go there so. i hope not in my book larry is really as i said a few minutes ago is is really in effect on now use the term a cautionary tale our nation does not like impeaching the president united states we just don't we don't like overturning elections so have a full and fair election we're going to have midterms then in two thousand and twenty we'll have an election of or perhaps if president trump runs the you'll have the opportunity to pass judgment on it but i think that's one of the things the founding generation felt strongly about as we want stability in

our government and therefore the requirement of a two thirds majority larry for removing the president it's always example majority as we all know to impeach but it takes a supermajority to actually remove the president i think what the founding generation was telling us we want to national consensus in order to remove a president from office all sides in a political spoke to my way of praise this book the book is contempt a memoir of the crew to investigation ken thank you so much for your time today. thank you larry thank you for joining me on this edition of politicking remember you can join the conversation on my facebook page or tweet me at kings things don't forget use the politicking hash tag that's all for this edition of politicking.

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