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to watch those stories unfold over on our website. will be here in about an hour's time with world update but right now international but if you're watching in the u.k. or ireland. it's official now died in the saudi consulate in turkey. the person or persons responsible is yet to be determined but one thing is certain this tragic story is far.

ross talking some real news i'm joined by my guest here in moscow mark marks will build a he's an international affairs and security analyst we also have dimitri bob and he's a political analyst with international and we have glenn these and he is a professor at the higher school of economics as well as the author of the decay of western civilization and we surgeons of russia are german cross-like rules in effect that means you can jump in anytime you want and i always appreciate it glenn in the future we're going to do a review of your book but we're going to stick with this story here mark who are the winners who are the losers here and where do you think this is going to go. well the ultimate loser is of course the journalists intelligence affiliates jamal. regime dissident insider yeah i mean he's he's been a fervent member of the muslim brotherhood something that if you mention you are

part of the right wing whisper smear campaign against against him he was a real tough letter he was it was hilarious he was involved with the cia and former saudi intelligence vice he was opposed to the most recent he was the protege of the former intelligence official of saudi arabia the head of their intelligence and since the fall of the saudi arabia's fallout with the muslim brotherhood during the arab spring he has since been excised from power and became an actual dissident against the saudi government he was also affiliated with the cia obviously the u.s. is losing here israel doesn't want to see him go the the big beneficiaries that i see are turkey which is in a type of rivalry for new autum an influence in the arab world with with saudi arabia it's kind of the. monarchist political islamicists

turkey the muslim brotherhood against the wall harvest absolute ists and also by being defacto allied with turkey to now again saudi arabia qatar benefits and i think you could say that russia and iran are sitting in the backward laughing. i would definitely agree with mark that turkey would be probably the biggest winner so far and. been stumbling around for the last couple of years making mistake after mistake but in this instance i think to play the cards quite well and improve relations with the united states in the process when we could see the release of that pastor yes and. i guess but at the same time putting the united states in a bit of a difficult position. deliberately began leaking this quite slowly you know first giving you enough time for the saudis driven. giving enough time for the saudis to say that no no we actually left the consulate and

leaving enough time for trying to. leave the saudis and then the next information comes out where they actually leaked will say that they have the audiotapes and the saudi has to change just or trying to tell again that i believe their new story as well so it was holding it was pulling every one of their noses with this narrative here. you know but this isn't over yet right because there are a lot of players i mean it's also become a domestic issue to some degree in the united states where you have members of congress that just because they were opposed to donald trump are going to be take a hard line on saudi arabia here go ahead. the mind of yours actually had their cooperation between the united states and saudi regime started wart. bumped money and arms into saudi arabia for years well i mean it's always since the second world war if you ask me who is the we know all. understanding of. the

western system and all with civility itself with slugs and murderous zero understanding is is that we have because actually i just love this explore nation that bought. into the consulate and he walked into a brawl into a condo we're getting fifteen guys here with you know getting three of. almost bodyguards and just had my video of during them what i'd done during the my then demonstrations which are where in fact there are three american and best of us are all to left of the new york times writing keep in mind that mr young strong chance no wonder that the demonstrators wanted to be impatient they forgot to add the patient demonstrators killed two policemen right and later on they called it a peaceful transfer of power well i think you have a good point our understanding of how it works i think that's a really good point here but i think never before has been there's so much

spotlight on saudi arabia they don't like it i've always said in american media say very little about israel and never say anything about saudi arabia and now they're talking about a lot the other big loser out of all of this is the western mainstream media hacks and i think tanks that are funded by saudi arabia that dominate washington. for years now for over a well over a year for starting in the obama and the end of the obama administration is moving in today the western mainstream media has gosh that about the liberal reformer mohammad bin solomon i think thomas friedman great literally love with him and wanted to come out in some way to really he's sticking by his or his into view which i think and now you know. not one of them can really admit that they were wrong in their their serve on al. you know white washing up momma been solomon in

saudi arabia i mean we're talking about a country that regularly they behead people like every day they cut their heads off of women they claim are witches and dissidents all over the place they conduct themselves to nations of dissidents all over the world and we're starting like going to act shocked because the child the interesting thing for me klein is that you know i on this program we have talked about the nature of the saudi regime quite openly and regularly particularly when we were discussing syria over the last years. but it seems that only belatedly. because saudi arabia is in the spotlight that people are beginning to talk a little bit more about yemen which we've profiled very often here you know if i only took this internal squabble. or you characterize it so i think it is elegance i think fighting amongst themselves and then and we will wait for the purge ok and who's going to come out on top of these and you know what i want to

keep it there is a human issue i mean it is getting a little bit more of a spotlight because you are talking about the ones mishaps over the years and foreign policy well the crown prince of saudi arabia the same thing has been happening to him and gross mishaps under his nominal rule go ahead well you could to the list of possible winners are so well given that they're finally decided you know. i think this could well depending on what happens down the middle of this and saudi arabia it could reduce some pressure because there's a lot of people moving now again souder a bit within the u.s. and we talked about before that there's the if you were toric well that depends who is some i think. mr graham i think it's i mean i think i think you have. rand paul you know here i think he had much more fun and that's authoritative it was a big popcorn moment for me to hear lindsey graham say that he wants to saying the hell. out of saudi arabia i was like wow the old car versus what i have the game.

i mean let me go all decided to go by friedman a ball there are some arab spring please don't. do that because i know there's a lot of this is this is political political pornography but go ahead so much freedom was one old blow followed in halls where you dearest reformist stadia is coming from a leader of an arab state so he couldn't stand it for more than twelve hours. with prince mohammed bin psalm on he he said let me let me just called it again you should be a fool to cross these prints but you should be a fool to root for him or for him because as we men would be driving yes women will be driving and he will be killing and this is exactly what almost friedman was a routine for in his article and b.s. what is his future he's wounded what's what's going to happen. i guess the best

decision for the assad family would be to get rid of him and essentially make him the fall guy here because so far they try to get rid of a couple of top officials you know. brush the whole issue under the rug so i don't think that's going to happen so at the end of the. it depends how much you know whether or not they're able to or willing to push them aside if. lindsay graham thing i thought was kind of interesting because. the the american intelligence community had other candidates and i think lindsey you know i think tucker carlson to the new and improved to lindsey graham these would be the cabin or hearings but now lindsay is back with his neo con ideas and i think that is it's not because of the tragedy in in this incident because something else clumsy exists that they're embarrassed by by now their relationship with saudi arabia and that's what's bothering them. more than the death of psyche i think they would be happy

to see. and replaced with mohamed bin i-f. the former crown prince who was the kind of the cia's man in saudi arabia have been openly said that he wanted he wanted and got well you know jobs around and the boys have to do it you know what i'm going to do the man's name here but i think that if saudi or if the king sticks by his guns and refuses to remove his son then they will quietly be paypal that papered over i don't expect us supporting yemen to decrease i don't expect the u.s. or european arm sales to decrease i do expect the fury from the washington press corps to increase though because why they are so outraged the way they weren't about yemen and they weren't about anything there it's one of theirs he was one of their and he has you know paid the price for be included in that circle and that is

the course of their fury we had some eleven twelve journalists and media workers killed in post might on point ukraine not a word said about them because they want their journey second to see no i don't expect a new reaction a new substantial action against muhammad b'tselem because we have a precedent media the former president of georgia this week he was accused with proof by the georgian prosecutor's office or in the last of my did the killing of his political opponent other causes for me to back into cells and eat before that strangely robbed by me he was of the main political opponent di. you really knew the leading meaning it's going to be swept away and he's still chilling with employment in brooklyn i didn't find they seemed to want to put it on you had we got to tell her to break out our short break we'll continue our discussion of the real news there.

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rejected. so when you want to be president. or some want to. have to go right to be close it's like them before three of them or can people that i'm interested always in the wives of our. guests. welcome back across like we're all things are considered i'm peter lavelle to remind you we're discussing some real news. ok let me go back to glenn here let's finish up on the story with saudi arabia now i just want to point out. mock friedman for his somewhat absurd article but this is

a sign not something new to another statement uses the king of understatement but if you if you look at for example the new york times or other publications through the decades since the fifty's and sixty's there been making apologies for not just publish for saudi arabia but they've been also calling them reformers for a fourth seventy years now it's. it's gone on for a while they're always equally enthusiastic and it kind of goes back to the other for united states saudi arabia is a very important ally for many reasons oil let's put that on top. but it's also there in the barest meant so you need a little bit of propaganda to bridge the difference between who they are i mean why do you really begs the question in people have looked at authoritarian totalitarian societies attempting to reform them or. does the entire system itself here i mean the house of saud is that it's based on my hobbies and i don't see in

the light and business or something like that i don't. want to belittle the masses i didn't mean to say that they're actually reforming i think it's a politically expedient to portray it as you're being in the process of reforming and you know they're going to say they get. their saudi consulate is a good example of reform thirty seconds we're going to move on to another let me remind our viewers there the american press actually has sided with the home and been sold one in march this year when trump started talking about coming out of syria remember where coming out of syria very very still and let the other people take care of it then the mainstream media prays to mohamed bin someone for urgent tonight to states to fulfill their duty and stay in syria so tell me who your enemy is and i'll tell you who you are with the any more harm and been solved maybe. that is bashar asad is not such a bad man. but this is something that mr. just doesn't mention who did barter of

also have to fight the people who kill their citizens in the quote so it's a very good point i want to move on here guys donald trump has just recently announced that the united states i guess unilaterally is going to be leaving the intermediate range nuclear forces treaty the what's known as the fear for me that's a very. sad and depressing moment hearing that coming from the president because we're running the nonproliferation regime that has been pushed for decades is coming rapidly to an end i mean with what i find even more disappointing is that there is not even the overture to sit down and negotiate it if both sides have issues with it but no mark you're just going to walk away from it and i think john bolton's name fingerprints all over this yeah i mean this is just the latest in the autumn raveling of cold war rules. withdrawal syndrome yeah i mean the u.s.

pulled unilaterally out of the anti-ballistic missile treaty which has direct rep or questions on russia's position on the i.n.f. treaty today that conventional armed forces in europe treaty and the nato russia founding out have been ignored by the west as it moves forces closer to russia's borders we we see new start is about to expire and now this let's be frank it's likely that both countries as they accuse each other are in small violations of the immediate range nuclear forces treaty neither the u.s. or russia benefited from this treaty in the modern strategic contents because countries like china the u.k. france are not excluded from having intermediate range nuclear weapons during the cold war this was a treaty that protected europe that kept the u.s. and russian missiles pointed long range at each other rather than short range it would mean the devastation of europe so that one of the big losers out of this is actually a year. i think it could actually be to russia's position if the us pulls out of

this to renegotiate it and to get china and the e.u. countries the u.k. included whether they are not in a read negotiated i.n.f. treaty that might even be able to return to the usual of ballistic missile defense entitlement on the table and i think that that's a reasonable rational way to go but if you had said the i.n.f. treaty is since the u.s. pulled out of the anti-ballistic missile treaty those treaties then not so much in our interest in europe's interest at least at the moment but that's because you didn't have the same restrictions so we can interpret this in different ways i think for trump it fits within a pattern of what has been doing lately in terms of ripping off all this international agreements and saying he will negotiate better ones. however but it's not all on trumped up because this i know of treaty has been there's been fears for quite a few years and it really dates back to bush when in two thousand and one he decided

to withdraw the united states from. the a.b.m. treaty and this was. because for russia they really needed to. develop a new a new weapons as well because for the west or for nato they keep saying that the a.b.m. treaty and other. missile defense shield are building is simply to you know intercept this non-existent missiles from iran but it's. become more evident this targeting russia russian these are countered somehow but also this is an interceptor missiles can be converted into your this intermediate range nuclear missiles so they can actually be used to target russia so russia already warned us market point out all of it in two thousand and seven put in. enough treaty would have to be reconsidered because they can't live with it anymore because the worse the sense of what is leaving leaves are controlled. agreements. to does that.

mean we're going to have a new arms race really is that it will be inclusion here means where it is now which would preferable near where i want to have something of war so we're going to have caves because let me remind our viewers what the i.m.f. treaty is it was signed in the end of one thousand nine hundred seven by a regular gorbachev when the warsaw treaty was still in existence and no one could you wouldn't dream or. store near one hundred kilometers from st petersburg be actually hostile to to russia and. american troops and british troops on their territory no one could imagine that paul and would be a horse stage you know because basically let's call a solitary american sort of these call russia a hostile nation him or let's face it you know look at the rhetoric of the polish leaders of the baltic leaders these are not simply not friends these are basically enemies between us and they want to build for and trump and this and this was

signed in one thousand nine hundred seventy in under completely different circumstances and now the americans are saying russians are doing something wrong they're researching and developing well there are but that's fair we're going in the treaty allows our court into our end of treaty you can research and develop you just can't deploy and the second so there are actually three arguments that russia can use to its advantage first it's a new situation no one expected to converse on board and rumania be enemies second what glenn just said the so-called anti-ballistic missiles can be used as an intermediate range missiles against russia and third we basically have the whole system of wants control destroyed and see if the treaty is no longer valid not because of lost but because see if we treat it was again signed when walsall treaty was in existence so a lot of tear not. no not even

a lot of it was not even mentioned warrant in the czech republic and slovakia mentioned in see if the treaty as elyse or the soviet union which means of russia. who wants this new start treaty expires this thousand and twenty one i think here it's actually no more. control me along a clear control essentially you can have just develop as many nuclear weapons you want because there and this is the first time since my friend is almost relieved. when you look at the tension between the united states and russia in the tensions in europe this is the worst possible not seen how long you can always remember what was said on your set of arms race the previous arms race was in the framework of an arms control system that as it was was created in the early seventy's so it was with a system now we have an arms race with of on site thirteen times richer than the other. system along to control this is much more dangerous ok i want to i want to

talk about the moeller investigation seems to be wrapping up here mark doesn't it we there's no assurance that the his report will even be made public he gives it to the deputy director at the d.o.j. rod rosenstein. rumor is there's nothing there and that's what we've been saying for seventeen months the murder investigation still going on i haven't even. you know of course it won't be released you know the results or interim results because i don't expect it to be closed down and won't be released to laughter the midterms when the democrats are expected to take back control of the house and i think everything will just be rejuvenated on their side that they will relaunch new investigation it is a different direction that well yeah i mean. mueller investigation went nowhere they will try to find new holes to creep in. two against trump which is really what

miller did anyway going after a man of words without taxes and so i might my theory glenn is this is that this whole thing was a sure rod from the beginning is to keep the focus away from these and in the f.b.i. and in the department of justice they they peddled a very different narrative here if the democrats come back and take over the house all of the g.o.p.'s investigations will be squashed shut down they'll disappear and as mark said they'll find new rabbit holes to dig into and so all of what we've seen preserve and teen months will just as if it didn't happen. i think that's been the main purpose they're going to really matter if they find anything at the end of the day which the apparently did don't have the simply having delegations there having the investigation. this is a been obstructing trump's foreign policy do you remember back from his campaign he especially was lashing out at everyone who was from his own party that opposition

foreign leaders everyone was a target except russia because he seemed to very much like stephen and recognize that maybe this shouldn't have spoiled the opportunity to actually really good policy because we're going to and. that was one is a big push to recognize that the cold war is over its the main challenges are coming from asia china and this in america's interest to make peace with russia but because he was so close he was pushing so hard this line which is essentially goes against both the democrats and the republicans i think that this was going to be their main target so essentially he's a stooge of the. they're going to be what he's been he's surrounded and probably become a new york home in outlook and his campaign promises are in tatters right now the deep state is one that's all the time we have gentlemen many thanks and i give you a mask and thanks to our viewers for watching us we're going to see you next time and remember. the

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