the bomb a really was very european in his approach he would be very well suited is the key in brussels for example doesn't represent america is america for better or worse and i think what we're trying to do here is to let the world see what we're all here. the headlines the leaders of russia tike hegemony and fronts me to lay the groundwork for peace in syria a serious differences remain over how to tackle extremists groups in the northwest of the war torn country if radical militants opposed this if they make provocations from inside the it. will reserve the right to help the syrian government eliminate this strange and military offensive by the syrian regime and its backers would have an acceptable security and humanitarian consequences. gunman bursts into

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ever financial crises coming up in the show one of the world's greatest political cartoonists carlos looked to form where the tomorrow will mean his country heading back in time to the days of nature a nation backed dictatorship and death squads you come up with interesting questions because he was from a different. band queen guitarist an astrophysicist brian may on the cold war was the feel good based race plus could pin huge selling of weapons to saudi arabia is fine according to u.k. pm theresa may at pm cues all this and more coming up in today's show but first to the week's headlines joining me now to go through some of the week's papers is broadcaster vulnerable democrat member of parliament member it picked them but scottish women in solidarity today in glasgow that's a trade union is amazing march an entire island disappearing in the pacific you want to talk about some be a good guy from soho the bearded guy and so let's look at this from the guardian reports the socialists are coming white house sounds alarm rise of the left it's

the run up to the midterm elections of course after and he's finally running because engels often said he should well i'm not sure he's running i think it's the dangers of if he did have launched from the white house diatribe about the dangers of socialism apparently there's a lasting specter from call marx the bearded man himself or bernie saunders not from soho and working mothers in sweden all in the same story and there's a new or logical thing about the white house council of economic advisers report oh yes two hundredth anniversary to eighteen eighteen twenty eighteen it's all in the story that's not the main figure out this is the main figure it's claimed that if medicare for all were financed through higher taxes g.d.p. would fall by nine percent seven thousand dollars per year this report is on trump's desk at the moment he thinks that i didn't understand this they keep looking to they seem to think that the neighbors marxist exactly as. and explain

that let me read to you something which i actually found very confusing quote from the report on drugs yes show and rosen said and i quote it to you a launch fraction of women working in the public sector to take care of the children of other women who work in the public sector to care for the parents of the women who are looking after their children if swedish women take care of each other's parents in exchange for taking care of each other's children how much additional real output comes of it short of this really is marxism is not a normal would understand so let's go from what's on trump's desk to a real hard geopolitics oh yes this on a humdinger to use an american non-socialist phrase the times reports russia moves to block u.k. division for world trade raise of a destroyed by more russia are getting ready to go russia and nineteen other well trade organization countries the point here is that while they're focusing on russia it just takes one being took from one country in the world trade organization to bring the whole thing crashing down it is always two dozen

countries but they just go russia moves all of gloucester and russia because we're not at war with some of the other ones but we're almost at war with russia because they're they're evil it's moscow so that's the new deal bricks it in other words russia and these are the two dozen countries they will aim to stop and i should just add today is the day putin macro merkel heard it wonder it is bull to talk about syria no sign it to resume but russia anyway made bricks according to facebook analytic on a letter with ok to go to another they broke it after another election arguably being influenced not by russia this time it gets worse well i'm not sure. the news reports thing is prince harry and meghan's fiji visit could influence the outcome of election which election not russia not britain the fiji election a former diplomat says that this could skew the result of a very if you're a pretty authoritarian leader and suddenly you get this couple people quite interested in this couple. i detect well well using my journalistic i.q.

about robin now you might be on the other side within that he said he was fifty years. foreign affairs private sector until last year he quit last year he said the perception is of course that the fijian government will take full advantage of these turning out so they can wear rank. previously been pivoting to what china just the other day said australian companies will build its military instead of china this week trying to get in on three g. it's really important strategically right on the other hand it might just be a good visit and they get even more criticism that they didn't go to this this dependent surely get a knighthood as i'm being i was going to think they're being used as pawns of the foreign office that's they're not just making a nice trip to the south pacific everyone who goes there should visit fiji who paid for the trip we probably did i don't think the fiji instead and certainly the government of fiji didn't and what do i want i do want to pitch i just want to free trip to fiji then better pick thank you well if meghan markle could be weaponized

to push for a nature friendly regime in fiji at next month's elections what about tomorrow's election in one of the most populous countries on earth i'm talking about the be in brics brazil and i'm joined now from the thirty three million strong city of south paulo by one of the world's greatest political cartoonists carlos la to call us welcome to going underground we've seen a u.s. secret service is of collaborated with elites in the western hemisphere for decades manipulating elections they did maybe appear to need to manipulate the elections in brazil to get what they want tomorrow is that the case with your country yeah i think so specially because you have proved steve benen who work here for detroit campaign and established a kind of. fake news machine not only in united states but also here supporting the fascist candidate in brazil but why did imprisoned lula the most popular candidate arguably choose had to. run against sonora he was charged with corruption

surely the people of brazil though want a person charged with corruption over this new man on the block has had very few options the workers' party had very few options and at least this guy. had made a goot government when he was a mayor and some powerful he's not involved in any corruption scandals or kind of these kinds of things but fortunately the pressure over to the start of the workers workers' party is to big that's let's remind let's remember the workers' party suffer a kind of conspiracy involved opposition parties the legal system and the mainstream media nor did chew put our way party to start by doing is from

the government impeachment for example and putting. in jail you know so everything was working in order to put the party to the star but it is a way for the process i suppose we have to remember fifty of brazil's two hundred million perhaps don't care so much about the election they're living in sub-saharan african conditions but how does says he wants to work with the i.m.f. and world bank if he wins the election who can vote for the well in the metaphor i think it's quite difficult for any government chew chew to keep themselves as independent from the i.m.f. unfortunately you know especially because how economy is to linked to the international markets you know we. are under influence of world bank i.m.f. this kind of. organizations and. while liberal mainstream media around the

world doesn't like bull scenario bloomberg reporting markets are reacting really well to the prospect of olsen are a winning player preference wall street journal brazilian swope drainer they call him j.p. morgan chase election is his to lose what about that difference between the financial press and the mainstream international press a good question i think maybe ford international press is is clear the situation here in brazil is very serious because probably sings we had the end of the military dictatorship we didn't have the strong possibility of having the first real fascist president you know ruling brazil i think the brazilian media it's not calling him by his. real name fascist because they are afraid of or because they are supporting him you know unfortunately. mostly of the

mainstream media and brazil are cowards. power dissipation they think we need to call this guy for his real name he's a fascist and no doubt a democracy and brazil is at risk with this guy no problem not not no nobel but in even the international media can see does of course he'll denies a fascist if he wins tomorrow but millions of people will vote for both. surely some reflection of the fact that lula the little experience with the i.m.f. bit of a failure unlike chavez who changed it structurally. brazilians won't vote for the left anymore let me try to summarize the situation how we reach this serious situation basically is because their workers' party for the things they

made right and the things they made wrong for example in order to rule the country the workers' party made many alliances with very conservative parties this is wrong movie definitely one reason this kind of choice for being part of the game of the or league or key was one of the big mistakes of. this but. also that they may drive it for example the social programs that help a lot the poor people in brazil and this kind of things made the middle class to upper class very upset you know because they. were in use or to see black people in the universities the poor people have more possibilities to chew by. offer only for the middle class this kind of things and this create

a very middle class in brazil the upper class they got very hungry of this so basically dissipation here is because not only the right things made by the party to struggle of this but also the wrong things but we need to add to the situation the fact of the brazilian mainstream media created. by the feeling more or less like the anticommunist feelings during the cold war so what we have now and brazil is fascist history this anti. to the struggle of the anti workers party feeling sentiments fear by the mainstream . media is also one of the responsible for the average people. to declare votes for fascist because they are against workers' party do damasio of

propaganda by the mainstream media but do you think that ironically sable sonera one of the election it could rake revolution something much more structural inevitable in brazil. river aleutian but at least she forced the social movement some reaction you know because all all the years of work is spotty. and neutralized a more radical left more or less what happened during the obama government and united states where the movement was counting too much on the government you know. so i think if we have a right government. it will force the social movement specially the women's movement the black people movement the l.g.b. tea movement the artist is intellectuals to some kind of her reaction you know

thank you after the break after last night's long delayed rocket launch from cape canaveral legit greet queen guitarist talk to brian gives us his thoughts on britain going into logan space after a break because it's. impressive well informed and dedicated public servant gerry corbett pays tribute to a man alleged to have aided a critical cover up that led to tens of millions dead displaced dollars of all coming on part two of going on the ground. join me every thursday on the alex simon show and i'll be speaking to guest on the world of politics school business i'm showbusiness i'll see you then.

thank you. very. much you're. welcome back there's been a lot of talk about journalistic freedom murder and bone saws this week so let's remind ourselves about u.k. use of angle growing does against journalism when revealing all our phone calls and e-mails could be bugged by the state for a show we. know you can see it's really taken to the computer

while the intelligence agents watched overseeing the destruction was top civil servants of jeremy heywood officer he had repeatedly threatened the editor of the guardian newspaper to return documents leaked by n.s.a. cia whistleblower edward snowden now it taking refuge in moscow heywood was tony blair's principle private secretary it was he who was questioned over delays to the iraq inquiry because of the alleged cover up of blair bush meeting minutes tony benn on this program in what would be his final t.v. interview alluded to it when accusing heywood's boss monty did with committing war crime in a question about that world war crime i think what happened was he gave a private assurances to bush the bush wanted to attack iraq he would support team and i think that may have influenced bush. to go to war because you thought he'd be thrown have written on my butt heywood's role in maybe one million dead was not

question this week by ben's protege. labor leader jeremy corbyn who had this to say about jeremy hayward i do join the prime minister in thank you the former head of the civil service jeremy how he would for his public service wish him well in his recovery and i have to say in my conversations with him what an impressive well informed and dedicated public servant he is now and what had britain's minority government leader just said the pm queues suggest to me hayward is sadly standing down as cabinet secretary and head of the civil service to concentrate on his recovery from ill health jeremy has been an exemplary public servant over three decades serving with the highest distinction prime ministers and ministers of all parties in the finest traditions of the civil service the finest traditions appear to include overseeing the use of angle grinders against journalism then and on continued arms export licenses for saudi arabia to threaten twenty million in yemen after bone sores against journalism

a license will not be issued to saudi arabia or any other destination if to do so would be inconsistent with any provision of the consolidated e.u. and national arms export licensing criteria and in july twenty seventh the high court ruled that our sales to saudi arabia were compliant with those regulations members of parliament there arguably on another planet to the rest of the british public meanwhile i'm here at the london science museum to investigate a space age tale of tragedy and triumph the just released mission moon three d. reliving the great is out this week in the book's authors david. may join me now thanks for allowing me to talk to you about this presume we dole trouble very keen on a space force this book is aimed at him to understand in three d. what space exploration is all about yeah there's two very different things here this exploration and this war you know we're very much for the exploration side that i think the world was very disappointed when trump announced that he would

take war into space. i don't think that's something that anybody wanted you know from the old i'd certainly not what neil armstrong would have said you know because he wanted it to be for all mankind trumps defense says early on in the book that it is political from the outset the space race was a that's the great irony you know i think we all know that the objective probably wouldn't have succeeded wouldn't have been gained if there hadn't been the element of competition and that's not war that's competition you know but it's in the context of a cold war which was in existence at the time but if it hadn't been that incredible incentive to win this race probably they wouldn't go that this is a strange things because you think cooperation is the essence you know but in this case no there were two separate peoples two separate teams striving for the same aim and in the beginning the russians were well ahead as you know and it was only later on that the rather the russians encountered problems they couldn't fix and the americans were able to win the race but why do you think russia's been kind of

wiped out of it was it the moon landing success of the united states no no it was before that i mean they will tell you in detail and it's in the book you know they they encountered some severe difficulties they had loss of life. they had the loss of some of the central driving forces and even tell me about corollary well i mean losing their chief engineers over should really the intellectual architect of the program and have the vision as well as teams working for him was a terrible blow there was a great accident much earlier of course at the launch facility the baikonur cosmodrome the killed some key people as well and then some just as with the americans some important participants were lost including the great original hero yuri gagarin of course died in the in a plane crash mishap so that sort of loss of difficulty of the program as well as the soviets having the sort of competing engineering groups who were

working on different things without. as much unification is they might have had early on all led by the time of apollo eight this trans lunar flight to fly around the moon and test the apollo concepts to come back then to earth by that time the momentum really stalled out in the soviet union because of what the americans had done and these terrible tragic losses and then you have castro in cuba you have the bay of pigs and as you put it in this book the my rocket is bigger than your rocket when i don't know as if there had not been that original competition has brian said you know we never would have gotten to the mood in the end it was either one thing for j.f.k. to put his foot down and say by the end of the decade we were going to do this but it was very complex thing to do of course for any nation and without that competition and the aura of that backdrop of the cold war it certainly never would

have happened i believe but before the jig was up in the mission had been accomplished by apollo eleven the american astronauts and the russian cosmonauts were already becoming something of a fraternity independent of the political powers and apollo fifteen for example left a memorial to the fallen astronaut explorers from both countries on the moon there and there's a strong emphasis in the book about culture along with the space race and music and i mean there's a reference to the beatles in apollo eleven your band queen in the bill of fifteen really see these connections between popular culture he wrote the book you need to sing as a surname of a planet that's it and i think they named it off to freddie. and it's no accident you know now we share this feeling that art and science really are not a separate as people have imagined you know we will brought up to think you can be

an artist if you're going to be a scientist and vice versa but it's not so you know and i think the. certainly the astronauts are equal and the. communities are very much artistically inclined these days so yes i think that's one of the things which our book does it really examines what was going on in the space race in the context of the broader context of sociology and and art in general and of course politics there's a whole different side of this book which is the human side and i think we're talking about people who are so brave all these men you know with highly qualified putting in also incredibly courageous and i think one of the reasons we we feel good about this book is we think it will inspire individuals to think oh yeah i could do that you know i could step up to the plate because it doesn't just take technology it takes people who have a commitment that a passion and you know the courage to follow it through so i think that's a good part of what i books about and of course the books three d. three d. you can have to explain how can a book be three d. this is

a flat book but the magic is in the back seemingly dropping it. the magic is here your stereoscope which looks like something very simple but it's actually a very hard drive it connects to the internet virtual reality get all thing and we're doing it with you in the back this is victorian technology so you'll find your stereoscopic pictures in the book and they're not red and green these are stereoscopic pay is so once you get the hang of this which happens you know that these wires are taken only journeys it's an interesting question which i also that quickly in various ways yes they were you know the information is there and what we've done is go back into the nasa archives and trawl them extensively and find pages which work so for instance when these guys are in apollo ten they're certainly they didn't get to the moon but they circled the moon and they pointed the hasselblad out of the window and went click and waited a few seconds it went click again and so you get your two images which if you mount them in the right way will give you a stereoscopic experience so that's what we do here we we pill age the archives if

you like and we make these. from them but the stereo skippy is real and it's the same yes or no it's actually not many people know that they were actually tutored in the art of stereoscopic photography they didn't take a stereo camera but they were trained to use their hasselblad like click click and to make a stereo pair usually they were too busy you know they had other things on their mind which is understandable safety cooperation albeit to the international space station didn't include china seems to be something that's key in the book even while there's a cold war going on what do you make of the fact that friends and certainly i assess trump as saying twenty twenty four which was said you will do anyway to stop funding. but jim braden stein the new head of nasa saying it could be funded by private spaceflight do you think seidler is the idea for now in that private multi billion as the financing space you know i have no idea you know because what mr

trump says and what he does two different things those are you know so i don't think any of us really know what will be happening in a couple of years' time but i think there's room for private investment yes you know but i think it would be nice and it would be incredibly beneficial if nasa is continued and continues to be funded because it's in the national and international interest that we do this i think that regardless of what happens as brian said in the next couple of years the longer term vision for space exploration to take the next big step because the moon is very very close in the quarter a million miles to go up there a little farther and to get the technology return that will happen from doing it going to mars for example which is very much in the crosshairs of everyone in the world who's interested in space exploration now buzz aldrin all the way down that's so much more ambitious than what we're talking about here with apollo and this era that's going to require regardless of what any president or premier says that's

going to require international cooperation and resources from a huge group of people and private industry to try that because the ambition and the expense is way beyond anything that's ever been done before but in the book this is essentially unity of spirit told i was going through it britain has just announced it's going to set up a new g.p.s. system opposed to the european union one which was set up in opposition to the u.s. g.p.s. system what do you think about all these competing countries i don't like all this separate stuff you know this sort of illusion that we can all stand to me the future lies in cooperation and so i get up every day and put my head in my hands about. i think is the stupidest thing we have tried to do you know this is another symptom you know and yes we can do things on our own but we do things a lot better when we cooperate with other people and great things happen from interactions in my opinion. we have

a slight irony here because the interaction in this case was from two opposing camps never the less they were fuelling each other's efforts and it was so wonderful to sit in stammers and see alexei laying off the first man to walk in space and he'll armstrong first man to get women sitting there and comparing their experiences and and coming together you know and sort of sealing this is this whole recent conference yeah the stone thing under bugs me that we should joy to see and to me that's the future you know let's cooperate let's work on strengthening the ties between between us economically on the one hand you know spiritually if you like and in terms of ideas and efforts in expanding humanity's horizon funniest and some retrospective use happen there's one thing that lana wrote a wonderful book about the two sides of the exploration with scott you know so you have one from each other and one of the things he said was you know this terrible

acts in the apollo one could have been avoided by corporations because exactly the same mistake had been made by the russians that's why they lost the first cosmonauts if only there had been little bit of communication if only someone had said you can't use an all in atmosphere in the capsule those deaths could have been avoided so in retrospect yes i think corporation would have helped as well by may jack thank you thank you thank you dr brian marion astronomy editor in chief david j. ica speaking to that other side museum in london that mission moving three d. reliving the great space race is available now at all good bookstores run up on monday when britain tries to pass a budget and tell them you can judge by social media will be back on monday two thousand five hundred fifty seven years of the day all the rooms conquest of babylon and the sponsorship of the jewish ritual.