erica we are beginning our journey for gonzo and we will this is our last episode before you and i will go on the road and so you the audience will be now watching us as part of our journey the kaiser report will be doing our journey from the road as well while we're on the road for three weeks with gonzo which is a new series coming to you soon from december so get ready for that but part of the reason of course why we wanted to set out on this journey across america and find out what's going on is we want to look at the economic and cultural landscape and find out what not only did the mainstream media miss in trump winning but remarkably what they continue to miss because if you look at this first headline it looks like twenty twenty is looking good again for trump trump has raised more than one hundred million dollars for two thousand and twenty a reelection effort president chavez raised more than one hundred million dollars for his reelection effort in two thousand and twenty less than two years after he

took office according to campaign finance disclosures filed earlier this month now the remarkable thing about this is he's the first president to ever raise any money this early let alone one hundred million dollars this figure is remarkable that trump is the first president in modern history to begin fund raising so early in his first term he technically launched just twenty twenty campaign the day of his inauguration and officially said he'd run once more this february nine hundred eighty days before the next presidential election he has been holding campaign style rallies and soliciting donations ever since you know right yeah our new series that will start airing in december and we start shooting it very soon and we're going to take a good look at the american cultural landscape from sea to shining swamp and figure out what makes this country tick and as i've said since the beginning of the chunk in. pain at the election win since trump is america and

america is a collection of freaks and geniuses hucksters and. bible thumpers and the you know this is the stew the melting pot and or is barack obama really was very european in his approach he would be very well suited is an m.e.p. and brussels for example is that doesn't represent america trump is america for better or worse and i think what we're trying to do here is to let the world see what we're all about here he's just one aspect of american it used to be highlighted more often in our popular media somebody like mark twain of course wrote about these sort of characters over and over i guess they were a little bit more prominent back in the day we've become more technocratic and as you mention obama we prefer more technocratic sort of figureheads era at least certainly like the technocratic softspoken eating sort of folk in the white house

but you know this sort of character i think we used to have presidents that were more like crazy like john like you know rough speaking and you know more vulgar and i think we used to have more of that sort of style and there was a period of time when wright is a distinct american archetype is they men out there in the middle of the wilderness trying to sell folks make oil i mean there is a precedent for this and it sounds like it's a losing proposition and yet the country became the big winner in the twentieth century might not make it through the twenty first century but it certainly had a great century back oh a hundred years ago well anyway ninety seven percent of the donations that make up this hundred million are less than two hundred dollars so it's a small you know contributor it's not big corporation certainly a lot of the big corporeally corporations seem to not like him a lot of the billionaire class does not like him but it's the average ordinary american that is giving money to him so we're going to look at that but you know.

one of the biggest corporations on the republican side certainly financing both sides has come out with another interesting story this is part of our journey as well exxon now advocates for carbon tax. so it's not every day that a former republican u.s. senator and one of the most conservative democratic senators currently full time oil lobbyist advocate for a carbon tax when one of their main clients exxon also decides to publicly and financially support this effort for one million dollars it deserves attention so yes exxon which has long championed and finance all the think tanks that endorsed climate change denial well they are now behind a carbon tax and through these two senators former senators who are now lobbyist so former senators trent lott republican from mississippi and john breaux from louisiana democrat from louisiana both with substantial ties to the u.s. energy industry recently formed a political action committee americans for carbon dividends this group now

advocates for a carbon tax the actual proposal was released by a related organization the climate leadership council c l c which is headed by former secretary of state republican grandy james a baker the third oh really james baker this is the third he's still alive and he's still with us and he still he's now apparently pushing for a they americans for carbon dividends jimmy three sticks as he's known yes tell the audience who he is why he's a very fascinating character but i what i want to say was that nothing motivates men more than the sight of the gallows and what i mean here is that even these tricked in oil executives understand with hurricanes blowing around and properties flooding that this denial of climate change industry remember steve malloy i believe was his name this was a guy is to go out there on t.v. and. for saying junk science is showing that there is no carbon you know it's all

a hoax and you know these types are now facing the gallows of a premature human extinction so even exxon is like i've got property i've got kids i've got grandkids why my burning them in the fires of hell you know but. no it's nothing to do with the science they're happy for because they know they're all millionaires or billionaires they're totally convinced they will survive any climate change they are convinced that their homes their billion dollar bunkers will survive they don't care about the ordinary person what they care about is profits we're going to get to that in a moment what they're proposing in this dividends thing is that we get rid of the e.p.a. we get rid of all environmental regulation that they instead will charge a carbon tax and they will collect and they'll give a dividend to the people but they don't care so it's a way to reduce their costs on one side which is regulation which they see coming

because of all these climate disasters and they've proposed their own solution which is this carbon tax but there is well there's another side of the argument yet you were very kind to them i was going to be they care about it but i want also like i want to read one quote here which reminds me of something that you said regarding the social media crackdown and this is interesting only in terms of carbon emitters this group is an amalgam of oil natural gas and nuclear power interests no one from the coal industry reminds us of the camping story about out running a bear only need to outrun your fellow campers and this instance the coal industry seems to be the slow camper so they're natural gas oil and nuclear combining this forces and in this carbon tax situation excluding coal obviously because coal emits huge amount of carbon and they're working together right so in this case it's an example of not trusting these guys. who want to work toward

a market solution so the regulators of the e.p.a. that's a hard cost that actual money comes off the bottom line and they feel it but if they can get people to buy into this hoax and say we're going to get rid of regulation you're going to bring in real carbon taxes and those credits are going to be shared equally throughout the economy then you know that's like saying well obamacare musing markets are going to create a low priced health care know it jacked up health care dramatically that's like saying interest rates are controlling by the fed they're going to create opportunity throughout the economy no it just artificially jacked them low so that you had the one tenth the one top one percent get artificially billionaire status so any time you see markets as a solution being positioned by market manipulators and serial market fraudsters and recidivist market criminals that's a red flag yes on paper and i'm going to read you on paper what this proposal is it's interesting and it's good but you know these guys are not benevolent.

dictator sort of guys so let's look at their proposal has four key parts a forty dollar per ton tax on carbon rising annually at a gradual rate tax revenues generated would be refunded to all citizens hence the name carbon dividends this plan would terminate the e.p.a.'s regulatory authority over carbon emissions and specifically terminate their recently enacted clean power plan and require border carbon adjustments to level the playing field and permit american competitiveness other relatively high c o two emitted countries apart from the u.s. are china and russia so it would impose it would try to equalize you know part of the. reality that has been preventing any sort of american corporations joining these sort of plans it's been like well china produces more carbon they're not by far so why should we we're not going to be able to compete with chinese corporations so here are their interests entering a border tax for. any chinese made goods right as you say i mean on paper it does

work and i've been saying carbon credits and work for fifteen years you know that when they were first proposed that people who don't really use the environment let's say people who do not drive a car at all they would get a dividend from people who would be driving gas guzzlers and putting a lot of carbon out there there's a way to equalize the carbon distribution in the economy does work on paper but the idea that to trust these folks in doing this in a way that won't be abusive is ludicrous also there it sounds to the ordinary person because this is expected to raise two hundred seventy eight billion dollars per year ok two engine seventy eight billion in carbon taxes at forty dollars per ton now to put it into context. just hurricane florence and irma cost over one hundred billion in economic damage so they're thinking like we'd rather

pay a little bit towards this damage because at one point you know when we have these hurt obviously there's still hurricane michael that has caused even more damage so we don't know the full tally so far this year to all this hurricane damage that the proposed tax of forty dollars for time would bring into into seventy six billion or slightly more than exxon revenues last year about eight hundred dollars per person here in the u.s. we also as a nation spent one point zero five trillion dollars on energy last year the u.s. has a g.d.p. of one thousand point five trillion and twenty seven thousand so to put into context two hundred seventy six billion and whether or not it actually adds up to the externalities that are caused by carbon emissions well yeah no the course the accounting of all this that's where the get lost in the wades and somehow these dividends are not going to make it out to the folks that are the victims of exxon and the energy industry whose lives are shattered whether they live their fracking operation or whether they have seen their entire community swept up in

a hurricane due to the. activities of these bad actors and they know they're not going to get the benefit they're not going to get it we know that from experience it's going to be hoarded by by the by by the military leaders like every other frickin market out there but at least i'll stop financing perhaps all these climate change denial things that we want to listen to those bozos in the comment section anymore in a stable oil you are wrong i was right i want to publicly state that or live in shame for eternity will be back after the break don't go away mark coming your way . people. have been saying the numbers mean something they matter the

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you know world big partisan movie lot and conspiracy it's time to wake up to dig deeper to hit the stories that mainstream media refuses to tell more than ever we need to be smarter we need to stop slamming the door on the bath and shouting past each other it's time for critical thinking it's time to fight for the middle for the truth the time is now for watching closely watching the hawks. welcome back to the kaiser park i'm max kaiser just took a shower or as i say in france douche. ok well that's quite interesting because

we're going to continue on this theme of carbon and carbon taxes and carbon emissions because in the first half we looked at the fact that now exxon mobil one of the previously one of the biggest finance areas of think tanks that denied that climate change was happening they are now behind a carbon tax this carbon tax however would come at the expense of any federal regulatory authority over carbon emissions essentially the e.p.a. would not be the agency that would over see this market would be the industry itself and he's now going to look at the original inhabitants of this great nation the native americans because this is an interesting story from northern california and it is how carbon trading became a way of life for california's york tribe so they follow this guy marty lean

bear and he's now he's now joined the basically the your tribe forestry program this is a newly created agency and basically they set some fires in order to contain bigger fires and they are now basically selling carbon credits and we'll get into that in a moment but it's a fascinating story according to archaeological records an oral history york lands originally stretched across some half a million acres but in eight hundred fifty five knighted states confined to the tribe to a reservation that covered less than one fifth of that expanse or roughly ninety thousand acres the borders narrowly straddled the claim of the river which teamed with salmon running inland about forty five miles from the pacific coast south into humboldt county in subsequent years the federal government took away most of that land as well opening it to white homesteaders gold miners and timber companies and

later. claiming some of it for itself for the forest service our national parks by the one nine hundred ninety s. the tribe was left with only five percent of its original reservation an area roughly a third the size of manhattan as your leaders wrote in the preamble to their one thousand ninety three constitution quote our social an ecological balance thousands and thousands of years old was shattered by the invasion of the non india so here you have a tribe that went from over ninety thousand acres the land down to under five thousand acres of land most of the salmon that they relied on for their substance and their economic activity is gone due to well due to overfishing and also dams placed up further up the river so now they needed money and we're going to get into that how they did this to carbon trading oh that's excellent i can hardly wait to find out how they made money carbon trading these timeless native americans and their northern california wigwams looking for

a way to stake their claim over the neighboring india in. place continue no they don't and they don't have any casinos up there i don't believe but i thought you might have mentioned the fact that they've lost all their land and this is been a part of the native american experience with the us government and the treaties that they have had with native americans to the you know soon about that but regarding these native americans so like i said they went from ninety thousand down to five thousand they want their land back what do you do in the olden days they used to try to fight the white man they said try to get their land back and that of course led to newspaper articles that lead to people like thomas jefferson writing about how we have to eradicate these these nasty evil people who kill us so one idea they came up with in those years your leaders considered filing lawsuits claiming that the surrounding lands were rightfully theirs but lawyers advised

against it they said if you go to. court you might lose so then you lost all that money and all that time dale webster a founding member of the tribal council told me the lawyers advised that it's cheaper to just buy it back ninety five percent of the tribal government's budget comes from federal grants the tribe salmon fishery central to its identity and its economy has been decimated largely by upstream agriculture and for hydroelectric dams jobs are scarce eighty percent of the tribe lives below the poverty line so in two thousand and ten california introduce their own cap and trade system because remember the us government was not able to pass legislation for cap and trade system and incomes that your tribe they have this only five thousand acres they want to buy back more but they have a lot of redwood trees big trees carbon sinks so they've started to make money and

will get into the details of how much they bought back they've actually started buying back their land from the people who stole it from them right so they're buying back their land the land that was taken by. the u.s. so if you have anything to say about the credit markets as well that's a cap and trade system that was the first proposal that was introduced globally that was decades ago maybe ten fifteen twenty years ago now in the first half we covered exxon mobil once a carbon tax here this was more of a market based mechanism cap and trade yes it came out in again this is something i supported for years in the paper it makes sense you're creating a market for those extra nowadays the environmental damage that that energy companies generate and it's a way to push that risk back on to their balance sheet to free up that cash and that's distributed more middle police throughout the economy and you know as we're

getting into this and as you're exploring this on the side. these data people are buying back land by trading carbon cap essentially using capitalism for a good purpose and it would come to mind was a quote from rand who suggested that capitalism altruism are mutually exclusive that these two are two philosophically different you can't combine them in any way and therefore since she was a pro-capitalist she was an alchemist now this proves that conceit wrong because truest tickly the native people are buying back the land it's altruism in terms of expanding their presence as a native people it's good for the environment it's outro istic that they're expanding their domain and they're using capitalism as a means to effect an outer was to end so once again iran has been proven completely wrong number two cap and trade essentially on paper makes sense in the right hands

it works number three the native people i mean these folks have figured this one out hopefully it spreads over all the indian so-called or native nations as we traveled last year and this becomes like you know it catches the attention of millions well with the cap and trade system as you have mentioned in the top of the show that would basically benefit primarily the people who use the least amount of carbon emissions who admitted the least here now are instead going have a carbon tax which is going to benefit the exxon mobil's of the world that's why they're pushing it and terms of how much income they've raised there in california that the your excess carbon offset project among the first of its kind in the united states has become the tribes main source of discretionary income it has helped the tribe buy back to date nearly sixty thousand acres up from as i said you know the five thousand acres they've now been forced down to. after many failed

treaties with the u.s. government this has been a way for us to revive the economy in a way that aligned with our cultural values amy cord allas the tribes general council said the program has been touted by environmental organizations as a possible model for other indigenous groups living in forests around the world to regain their rights working with national and provincial governments to combat climate change seven other indigenous entities in the us are now also selling carbon offsets so like you said there are these other indigenous groups around america selling their carbon offsets now that obviously is your idea which you just said and this is what is now spreading but the point is a member of the top of the show we said that exxon and these lobbyist for exxon and the oil and gas and nuclear industry want to introduce carbon taxes instead and

they're willing to introduce carbon taxes in in basically. only if the us government stays out of their business and they get to control everything and that the us government is not allowed to regulate them well here are the native americans whose land was stolen they couldn't afford to sue the government to get it back and of course it's no longer the wild west so they weren't going to fight the government so instead they just saw a way very cleverly to raise funds and buy back their land they've bought back a huge portion of their living this for us what do they have to do in exchange what at what cost is that to them well this is the interesting part the move has remained controversial among the york decision came with a suite of concessions to the state government including a nominal loss of sovereignty and greater environmental oversight so the state they

had to give up some of their sovereignty many outside the us might not understand but the reservations are basically like their own unique sovereignty they had to give up some of that to allow the state to enter their property and determine whether or not they are abiding by the cap and trade system whether or not they do the allotment of carbon credits right well that is problematic because the state or the white man would probably steal everything but they do have a chance to reclaim a lot of land i would say what they should follow up on is putting a dedicated portion of the cash that they're generating into pickling because then they can become sovereign to the point of buying back the entire country of america their their country because they feel dollars about to go to zero because he's about to go to one hundred thousand or two hundred fifty thousand to wash away all the currency you put some of that in the nest egg over there the native peoples account and they'll be buying the entire state of california that we buy nevada

that we buy in las vegas you know and i suggested this a long time ago. and this is i think a viable way to regain sovereignty well they don't even need to take that cash that cash should be exchanged for a land land as valuable in land that land is rightfully theirs however their land does have a huge amount of wind it has solar power potential it has water hydroelectric potential the claim with the river runs right through that's outcome they could do mining they could set up mining operations for these collateral damage from loan you can borrow one percent. decline in a thousand percent. it's got no you've got you know once the momentum changes and once the the wheels of capitalism and altruism are bound together in this native american dance of splendiferous landry claymation you'll see america transform itself from back when rica logical cesspool to buffalo rot oh in the plains you

know that song will make sense again it will be a purple sky purple mountains everywhere in buffalo roaming in the free in the land it's all coming back thanks to carbon trading and cryptocurrency mike this is the most important show we've ever done this through fifteen thousand shows. i gotta go and that's going to do it for this edition of the kaiser report with me max kaiser and stacy dances with wolves herbert. or its kaiser report.

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