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people in groups didn't exist until after november eighth two thousand and sixteen so today let's cut through the radicalisation blame game and start watching the whole. you. want to. treat the brain like a real that this would be. as if you were to pull out of. your seat. for the day like you but i got. the police. with. the. welcome everybody to watching dark side robot as i'm tap a flawless so we've talked over the last week or so about cults and radicalization and obviously as events in the world are happening it's. it's interesting to see
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how many people somehow think that radical it's almost as if radicalization or extremism shots just happened right in the first time it's we didn't know anything about radicalization. until twenty six and you know it's amazing how quick we are and how how how quick we want to dance like around the real causes and instead like oh so you get into this like finger pointing blame game thing rather than like oh it's this person's fault this person this person is well but never actually looking at the true cause of whatever actually taking the time to say well what about us in our society in general is causing this word inside around the world it's radicalism isn't just contained in the united states but what have you seen in this like who's radicalized who more between the president of the most and we see that is truly disturbed you about the current state of the discourse to well i think looking at cnn's reaction to them being not
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it wasn't to c.n.n. honestly getting the packages at c.n.n. . which i think is an interesting distinction is that neither of them were actually sent to me fishbowls. i think there's a lot of things is that everyone sort of points the finger back and forth if you're on the left it's we've never been this we've never been this bad and on the right you have what we've never done that obviously you did these wild things so there's never really a sense of anybody taking responsibility for their own actions or their own words or that any of the things that they say have meaning number twenty four hours after they do that that's a great point one of the surface or an axiom have posited that this sort of thought on the current state of things and i'm like i said it's because this media sort of constantly fighting each other in the media and fighting is itself the byproduct of a nation that's become radicalized by a collision of geo political events over years and it's being compounded by an economic crisis a crisis around around news where the most profitable information online and on
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t.v. is often the most inflammatory so it's kind of. everything's turned into sort of an e.s.p.n. sports kind of thing who you know emissary see rachel maddow has the best numbers on this person as the best those as if that somehow our level of quality and whether or not as journalists or as a news organization you're doing things right instead of just taking a book which you have to because you're a business right and that's what breeds i think not i'm not playing the they're breeding the radicalization but the idea the discourse is now kind of presidential e you know part of central it's like whittled down into this little thing of like ok this person has to play this person you cannot disagree with this team and you cannot disagree with this team and let everybody just got to be fighting all the time about what they believe in rather than talking you know and then that's what i think kind of ultimately filters down but you know when you look at actual radicalization many factors play into it you know into the radicalization of
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individual groups but one the main drivers most agreed upon is frustrated expectations of individuals for economic improvement and social mobility when you take away people's ability to improve themselves economically and then take away their ability to have social mobility feel like they're rising up in the world they're going to be ready for any you know little iago in their ear to tell them to do anything at that point and if if they feel of that they've been promised that over and over again and haven't been delivered on those promises you get things like wisconsin voting red instead of blue those things literally happen because if you're on the ground and you're feeling that you will blame because that's what everyone else does and to make myself really smart today this moment was often referred to as relative deprivation the absence of opportunities relative to expectations and. to adapt the story of a syrian refugee that
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a privileged white woman most well known for her showgirls about privileged white women. that's right self-indulgent essayist hipster racist and rape apologist lena dunham has been hired by producers steven spielberg and j.j. abrams to write the movie adaptation of a nonfiction young adult novel called a hope more powerful than the c. one refugees incredible story of loss love loss and survival by melissa fleming about a real life syrian refugee named dolls them out who survived being shipwrecked out to sea after attempting to escape the civil war in syria and make her way to europe but while many when people find the choice of dunham to be a problem the source material itself is pretty problematic already the book as well as the wildly successful ted talk fleming based the book on took the team of journalists coaches and researchers to complete fleming didn't even conduct many of the interviews with doa and while fleming is a legitimate expert in the field of refugee management her novel demonstrates the
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distinct lack of intersectionality and her retelling of dough is experience from obsessing over the simmering meat and spices of pre-war syria she was stifling doas actual voice the director of women for refugee women natasha walter said of her review of the book there is no moment in which you feel. them out standing beside you speaking in your ear and even if doa herself writes in the book afterward that she said it is only a small glimpse of the hardship and pain that refugees around the world endure this isn't the time to double down on performative activism like that of lena dunham and the gang in hollywood it is time we lifted the real voices of actual refugees and stead of letting white hands sanitize the truth for a young adult audience. could not agree with you more on this i mean this is
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absolutely ridiculous to me i'm not look i'm not knocking someone we're going to take a pay check and get a job. done i'm as every right to do that but at the end of the day i'm sorry there's a probably hundreds of thousands maybe millions of really legitimate writers middle eastern writers people with similar experiences to people who could truly write that perspective. rather than as you said someone rich young white new yorker i mean it's well connected well i just welcome back to new york or you know and then oh man these kind of things just so get on my nerves when i see this it's not to say that i do believe that anybody can write about anything i'm not one of those people that says only certain people shouldn't should be writing i think anybody can but when you have an opportunity to give somebody else a leg up to give somebody else the chance to write about experiences they know take it yes pleasure j.j. abrams and steven spielberg you know i don't know how that i just understand how to
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. become the answer i mean and even just saying problematic i don't know where where or where or in the meeting does he go you know who could relate to the experience of a nineteen year old mother who's just lost her fiance and a drowning accident while escaping the civil war while caring or to toss their children on the. lena dunham i mean obviously one of the things that her show got a lot of flying for was that there were literally four white women with lots of opportunity coming to new york city and crying that it wasn't as good as they thought it was going to be a. it's true. but she responded to the criticism of the lack of people of color on her show about diversity in the story and that her people of color those characters were very one dimensional she said white feminist do not have a great history of carrying their. accessors along with them well this is a perfect example you're not carrying there's
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a difference between empathy and exploitation and it's a very fine line and i think that empathy comes on the miss fleming of trying to write something to a younger audience and under kind of tell that story to open the door but i think lena dunham doing it is just but it goes along with the sanitization valid is i mean fleming one time told an audience of a book reading in new york that i think she said i think these store what these stories do is allow individuals to see that person is part of their community and it's about enlarging the circle ok but there is something sinister about having to whitewash a person's real story in order to get other people to see them as human it shouldn't be that the white woman or the white man has to bring you the story for you to understand there's human beings involved here new should be empathetic and sympathetic to us and do something to change it does were does this tell you everything you need to know about it it's this idea of you know you we as white people have to go out and teach the whole world how to think right you know most of
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the problem is a lot of white people don't have they have are thinking wrongly about things that in my i think there are plenty of experiences from from people's next. viewpoint but i really think you should have someone who has children of refugees who understand syria so that you don't have that like jasmine bloom floated through the air as she remembered her childhood doing. some of those as though. c'mon you know that's you know that's got to be one of the names on the list the second on leno wants a player only. when there are friends could go to bat like it we're going to break rock watchers don't forget to let us know what you think of the topics recovered on facebook and twitter and see our poll shows that are coming up author and educated the watkins joins us to discuss the recent rise of white nationalism the violence that has rocked your united states states i want to. thank you.
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fortune very outnumbered a lot about. more than enough to spend election. i have the honor to once again the interview alister croaky is a former e.u. diplomat and founder and director of conflicts forum and of course we're going to discuss it in weeks. with lawmakers manufactured consensus to the public will. when the really close isn't protect themselves. with the blame larry go to listen to the one percent. so that we can all middle of the room see. the real room.
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with fifty two hundred armed troops being a mass for the trump administration to beat a caravan of roughly thirty five hundred mostly central american defenseless migrants on the mexican us border one must ask if there's more going on here than just a simple asylum issue why send our troops for what ultimately is a border patrol ice and homeland security issue many argue that the kind of paranoia that sends armed soldiers to the border is to stop migrants is part of the same paranoia tree that has grown out of soils of racism and xenophobia from the
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recent shooting at the synagogue in pennsylvania to the tragedy in charlottesville last year america's racist roots are still alive and well here in the united states and many see it being codified in the actions of elected officials like representative steve king who once famously defended white european culture. said b c declaring i would ask you to go back through history and figure out where these contributions that have been made by these other categories of people that you were talking about where did any other subgroup of people contribute more to civilization yeah a sitting u.s. elected official actually said that on live television many you posit this growing movement of white nationalism and racism to the us census projections that project project project that the nation will become minority white and two thousand and forty five during that year whites will comprise forty nine point seven percent of the population in contrast to twenty four point six percent for hispanics thirty one point one percent for blacks seven point nine percent for each other and three point eight percent for multi-racial populations but joining us today to discuss
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this growing white nationalism and its violent manifestations is author and speaker to walk it it's always a pleasure having you on i want to say in your experiences and what you've seen is what is the biggest driver in your opinion of this kind of rise of the. machinable isn't that we're seeing you know kind of all over social media in the dark or you know why are we seeing this today you know. sometimes. you know i'd really really want things really bad in the wife are really dream of things that i won't follow the rules i do everything i'm supposed to do and i work really really hard and then i fail i don't get it so dust myself off and then i get up and i try again these are three crying complaining men who feel like they haven't been getting a fair shake in america which is crazy because they have no experience in the social media the social mobility that they feel like they deserve so they're
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looking for someone to blame it on people like him to people like this guy king it's any anybody who's going to who's going to take the pressure off of you and tell you that you're not the problem it's the guys at the border is the black guys down the street you know these other. people who are stopping you from advancing so you should hate them you should be against them they're not one of you. tried and true tactic is easy but everything is the easy way out right marriage letter of the people arguing that if someone else gets married differently than you do it takes something away from you it's women saying that trans women are taking away something from you it's such an odd extreme point of view and you know we discussed earlier about extremism is important out of the rhetoric but how does rhetoric from politicians and leaders play end to the rise of the rise of racism in our in our everyday life well that's just a flip side the flip side of it is there there put there justifying things that are
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already part of your own american tradition and experience something. we talked about earlier a lot of times these things start in a household then you have these people the president you know like you know we laugh at the president we laugh a certain politicians when he says stupid things and when we show how disconnected they are but they're still the president is the most powerful person in our country when thomas jefferson has said a dumb lazy and incapable of grief you know they're still holds true to this day as far as how so many people judge him talk about black people because he was one of the biggest thinkers of us term he became the father of that type of ideology spread its leaves his own children and nobody saw nothing wrong with it because he already branded black people as incapable of grief so if you're president who everyone voted for was a very popular president amongst the people who like you know the popular vote but the people there like him when he says these things holds true and they can
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identify with that and it is so powerful that they can even identify with him because you know he was born rich and help this family their way into like four hundred million you know from well you know and you know and you know what's interesting too is that. look racism and this kind of. you know white nationalism and that kind of that's always been a part of american history it's not new to this country you know like we were founded on slavery you know that was a big part of who we were you know and then we did the civil war and things like that but we're still there you know you still have that throughout history so what's interesting to me is it is also everyone's kind of shock about it to be like oh my goodness did you see this i can't believe we're there's racist cyr you know why is there this kind of like blinded reality to that in this country like why do you think that is words like suddenly you know people in the media just shocked that there was you know a coup klux klan still there shot that there was racism in this country because you acknowledged iraq obama you acknowledged michael jackson moonwalk on the television
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screen you will acknowledge michael jordan flower from the free throw line but you don't acknowledge that when the new deal what we had the g.i. bill that the white people who came home from the war was able to get those loans to buy those houses in the suburbs and plant the seeds of what will grow into me and their wealth and a black people could get those loans because the blank that the banks discriminated against them and we had the housing projects where we stacked thousands and thousands and thousands of people on top of each other and to put cages. on the front. on the front balcony so it's like that and that's the difference that's the difference we don't talk about the systemic problems but we see progress and progress is dangerous in front of face over and over again and i know you probably heard it before but i've been here and it's my whole life some black person we're going to some organization right because you know bragging right was i'm the only black guy i'm the only black guy i'm the only black guy. because companies can
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market and sell that auto company flyers auto company picnics oh look at the room he's the best you know drones going to you know he's the best with the potato salad you know sent i don't even know people use but they just out but. their own pride to be best at it and you know you used it and you sell it. and it's like a progression nest and that's why people at surprise because they've been so progression but it's really no progression in the progression from seeking a potato salad i'd like to talk about why it's so. we do make a salad. or proof of food one of the things i find interesting is is that the same poverty and lack of mobility that you don't see that you hear see on one side on the side of african-american people of color the way that they handle that to say more poor white communities it seems to speak to their insecurities because they're afraid that's going to happen to them how do you think that it's that that
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insecurity is that what that poor whites feel that they're going to be put into those cages into those buildings do you think all of this rhetoric kind of plays into their insecurities i think that what the the best thing they've had going for the over the past one hundred years is they get the chance to be white in america and that's just wrong gets to. these administrations in these race baiters the nice people have is that you know we're selling to you guys are really really bad you guys are doing good but you know what you're not them you know and they use that and that's what these rallies are all about this is the image of the breeds these you know my god i've got to be i've got to be. where i want to be a radical. and i got out of here radical you know to be able to protect this so you know they probably feel like they're like mercenaries for you know the guards of culture but doing these things and that's just
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a problem when i see well of the poor whites need to look at poor latino people look at poor black people and say look at the top one percent their wealth is going up it worse than a c. so we wrote a big every we demand is something that we can do something different but as long as they keep us divided keep us dumb keep us apart. if you do whatever you want to do what is this where is that thing where i feel like that's that's when things will really change just when sort of poor white americans realize that they're being used just as much as everybody else and that the idea that they're peddling they give these groups ever really come together and real trouble here's a question for any poor white person you know hopefully what is watching this show who who subscribes to this narrative. this man has been in a white house for two years and he promised a lot of things you know he promised a just situation is going to change you do a better you order like extra lobster for dinner did you take your family on a vacation you know that you get that addition to their house you probably did so
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that should tell you something right there that should make you think you move different because the result we're halfway through this in a results are not there. you know it's interesting too because. i always look around and i see that i could be wrong because look i'm going to have a different perspective because i am a privileged white male in this country i have a very different perspective from tabs on a very different perspective a view of what i've experienced but i do get a sense maybe you guys can correct me i do feel like this is the death rattle of this mentality the this kind of racism mentality in this and it's very loud right now but i do people it's because it's kind of in its last throes i mean do you feel that way am i completely off base because i've had a different amount of privilege than than either of you actually i think to some extent yes it's so out in the open that that is a good thing because it kind of sanitize it burns off the worst of it and you know i mean least we know now we know which one of our on certain goals or.
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ex-boyfriend's are completely racist scumbags like we're aware now we're more aware it's not so i don't think we're living in one thousand nine hundred sixty eight but i also think there was still live in a very dangerous time that we have a lot of dangerous years to go and i don't think that progressive forward thinking people like you like me should write this off because at the end of the day i've been a lot of schools and still when i go to schools in a certain way areas the very very clean in spaces and they have the tools they need to be successful and when i go to certain black schools they don't have he has two degrees outside so when i look at racism i don't look at it as a person running down the street screaming and were i look at it as wow oh how come it is black police it looks like this how come it is not black but it was like this . this poor white police they still have this but in this poor black place they don't even have it i look at it like that and i think of it that way because i think it's a power struggle is a power structure so wind up by having the power structure there when they're doing anything it's not about a seat at the tables about flip it over and we're going to do walk ins i was
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a pleasure having you on thank you so much thank you. with the thirty seven point seven year orbit the elusive comet thirty eight piece stephen boat. was last seen by earthlings in december of one thousand nine hundred thirty eight p. was first noticed in them or say observatory in france on the evening of january twenty third eight hundred sixty seven astronomer jerome eugene unfortunately mistook the comet for a nebulous and it wasn't until a colleague noticed the nebula had moved overnight that they realize that a comet had been discovered but it wasn't until one thousand nine hundred forty two that the finnish astronomer at least see found thirty eight p. again after having been lost in the sky for about a century. this is also one of the closest approaches to earth for comet thirty eight pay around december eighteenth the comet as expected to fly past earth within point seven seven one astronomical units just over seven million miles from earth
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not super close but close here's a clear skies and a safe visit from me once every thirty eight years comet thirty eight. thirty eight for you have a good journey of thirty eight feet and through everybody out there you know i think we talked a lot about radicalism we talked a lot about your violence of rhetoric try to see through it don't get duped by people trying to divide you out there we are all like we said if we all come together then we can overturn the terrible. sauce but our that is our show for you today remember everyone in this world we are not told but we love that up so i tell you all i love you i am tired robot and i'm keep on watching those hawks out there another great day but.
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this is harder than kentucky. we've always believed the place you go green is very funny easily the only. a co money city with almost no coal mines left. the jobs are gone all the coal mines a said. that it was love to these people the survivors of disappearing before their eyes. i remember thinking when i was younger that is anything ever happened to the coal mines here that it would become a ghost town but i never thought in the million years i would see that and it's how it's happened. what politicians do. they put themselves on the line to get accepted or rejected. so when you want to be president i'm sure. some one of. the two going to be
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pressed to see what the before three in the morning can't be good. i'm interested always in the waters about how. i should. in twenty forty you know bloody revolution to correct the demonstrations going from being relatively peaceful political protests to be creasing the violent revolution is always spontaneous or is it you know we hear i mean you know i live. in the. split needle the former ukrainian president recalls the events of twenty four. of those who. had invested over five billion dollars to assist ukraine in these and other goals that will ensure a secure and prosperous and democratic. earth
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