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in those days americans arguably did more than take a knee at the game they said things like this about nato nation foreign intervention in the developing world and went to jail for it not. bad all right in my. mind it. happened. when i was just you my mom you want to. modernize you want me to go from want to buy what you want to. while britain's biggest stars have yet to turn out against to raise a maze hostile environment legacy the u.s. does of course have swapped stars like this who have upset president donald trump have cops that are murdering people we have cops in s.f. p.d. that are blatantly racist and those issues need to be addressed less outraged ruggedly the nollywood cavanagh like the legend is also internationalist he
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arguably supports b.d.s. like lana del rey and lord following pink floyd's roger waters but how is it that kanye west support for trump and the so-called blacks it and cap with a custom ons for justice a so easily wrapped up in multinational capitalist logos added us for west and nike for captain nick to know if your dreams are crazy. crazy calling cap'n a good controversial multinational nike they're telling us we're not crazy enough and he's company god he says more than britain's formula one tax exile lewis hamilton about hostile environments that perhaps he will win the races at the brazilian grand prix on sunday week because brazil has a new president and more on that later for now i'm joined by inaugural alternative claudia jones memorial speak of a twenty eight hundred joint chief of the u.k.'s leading into by the new side the canary carry on windows a carry on thanks for coming on i want to get to the speech in a second at your site says austerity rebranded sell for a new pope. blue city dr theresa may philip hammond hosting post budget briefing
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today for business leaders why are you so cynical or skeptical about this great end of austerity after all these years and to anyway well because it's been a nothing about every year for the past five years it's always jam tomorrow it's the jam to morey budget that we've really watched and really listened to every year almost. a few years and i feel that there's a pressure on the government now to essentially pretend this is ok nearly done you know this is all actually necessary and well done the british public for taking a hit so that we could balance the what we all know is an ideological this is not real thing this is not a tightening of of the belt to see you through a tough budgetary period this is the systematic dismantling of the welfare state this is a deliberate policy that the liberal underfunding of public service is in the
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welfare state in order to effectively collapse tobacco to that advocate the privatization of the a service and we don't need this it was never intended to balance the books or help people out of poverty you look at the key thing you know what the key crises at the moment we've got the highs in crisis we've got welfare crisis of corporations crisis which departments are getting cut the very departments that should be leading the way of saying if you want to be three minutes you just have done six point three to six percent cut in schools in real terms twenty thousand police go why do you think it's not reflected in this relates presumably because jones is a journalism should be we're not hearing that in any of the budget comment you were hearing an idea about. this feeling corbin's close this kind of debate to be honest it's just ridiculous i think several years into this we thought well maybe you know
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they don't understand you know maybe if you know the work we can do is a left wing media is to put forward these ideas to really pick these budgets and to supply that information always back to the baby so they can kind of break this cycle but what's really become clear over the last couple of years is that these people are apologists for this system i do think at this point you can no longer say well you know the government promised this but then it didn't deliver so the poor media would just kind of doing it you know you. want. every year for most of decades you. kidding because people are already working two three jobs just to feed their kids they're not going to come home from work i know what i'm going to do you know i'm going to read a one hundred six page budget. the impact is on me so they were loyal in the media to break these things done for the we have seen for the last few years is convince
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the public what they're experiencing is real and it's almost institutional gaslighting at this stage where people are saying but i feel poor poorer. skyhigh my wages have dropped and i'm not is incredibly disingenuous and i think it's causing extreme distress you know we have people committing suicide we have people dying because of this it's not some abstract academic debate about the impact of austerity on people it's real and tangible. advisor a guy standing was on this are talking about the hundred day. while the queen is going to get two point four million citizens exploited one and some of the schools capital funding for not being able to pay for toilet paper pens or. there's a billion extra so elite media has been saying this is a budget for everyone because he's he's giving this billion to soften universal
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credit but this is a that but that's less than half of what george osborne already taken out of it so it's like someone stealing a tenner from you and then giving you back five pounds they promised some spending and then when you go and read the small print it's either not you spending before it's not going to happen for five years there's always a catch or it's actually not even anywhere near what we've already cut from the service of journalists as well as you'd accuse them of amplifying the ideas what did it feel like to be asked to do the claudia jones speech is here presumably you'd say gloria drones would not have covered the budget the way the headlines of every single space i think i think. if you take that noise in the background is quoted spinning in her grave you know the way the budget has been cut i was just completely honored to put it in speeches which you will rarely five me speech to be you know likely the germans was she was a raw because she was an active issues
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a feminist she was born in trinidad moved to united states with her family in some of the nine hundred twenty s. so she's operating in a time before the civil rights movement before rosa parks before might meet the king she was this is amazing woman who went from a loon tree in harlem to addressing fourteen thousand people at madison square garden i'm quoting the term triple oppression which was where race gender and class all come together all of those prejudices come together to conspire against someone and that was the life that she lived. if she was deported from the united states for being for the great crime of being a communist in the forty's or fifty's she would have been jailed four times by that time and then she came to britain because the british governor general of trinidad put her back in her country he actually said she may prove trouble which i think is a great quote but there i mean she came here and really create legacies here which
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you know everyone's heard of the notting hill carnival but almost no one can tell you who founded it well i can't quote. what she wanted to do with the notting hill carnival we say to britain and say to the world you know we are rich in culture we are rich in arts we are not suffragists and so she's not created this legacy long after her death every year two million people descend on london to attend this carnival and that's her. reverse of what you were chosen to give a lecture from the guardian journalist hadley freeman. various people saying the canary should not be suspecting journalists of showing partisanship for us foreign policy when covering central america this kind of obscure is really i mean it was therefore you should not be able to give the. i think the bottom line is i've been scheduled to and i was invited incidentally this is not something i asked
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for i was invited by the by the national union of journalists but members of the speech accepted because it was an honor i had no one venue you know i didn't care frankly about the speech it was about could it james. in the guardian building in two weeks before the event. because rival. that's their view i mean we're here to talk. where the rules are our first ration with the guardian is there are ways to avoid it in the rise of the far right you know puff pieces by. fascists meanwhile condemning leftwing people who just want to share more as the chief threat to jewish people in this country is beyond poverty has been. created the context of pittsburgh i'll be honest i'm speechless at this point because it is just so you. beyond the pale of i find it genuinely offensive. especially as you know as someone
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who has lived a life where i've experienced racism i experience homophobia experience classism i know what it is to be prejudiced against them i can see it from a country mile said to have kind of privileged white columnists you know who live within fifty square miles of each other in london they talk into the story first movement which the left is you know we're black we're bryan we're working class. and then putting us and saying you guys are wreckage chamber you go to the racists you know so why would they be so angry. a black gay working class editor in chief of a progressive if news web may purport to agree with her by ninety percent of our positions i mean literally they were daily coming up with new control you've confected outrage to try and pressure the end you jay to stop me from doing this
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speech trying to pressure me into backing down they want to kind of hijack the memory of quote your chains in service of tokenism i suppose they would say yes because there is extremist you gave the alternative gloria jones lecture the inaugural the link to it of course they don't get. claudia james and they don't get to milk her memory to try and puff up their own egos cody jane should not be a token and networking event she should be a celebrated cultural icon. thank you thank you after the break as major nations look to capitalize on a boston or a victory we ask of brazil's leader could bring a return to nato nation back near liberalism at the point of a gun and the man that. chancellor philip hammond at the transport department calls him out for being irresponsible on climate change the more coming up going on the.
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welcome back joining me now to go through some of the week's top stories is former u.k. home office minister and former u.k. transport minister norman baker norman thanks for coming back on before we get to the budget and all the rest of it happening medical cannabis something that you never got through when you were at the home of as this government is finally allowing the ill and the vulnerable to take advantage well thank goodness if he sends a case i was very strongly i want to bring this forward as a home of a structure minister i was stopped by some reason may have to raise a man shouldn't while she was home secretary shouldn't apologize to me by the way or congratulated me for rafa doing that but then it's a function of lib dems in this country to propose ideas which are first ignored
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then the rubbished then are adopted by somebody else than the people who adopt them so the thought of it first let's go to the independent and the great budget yes budget twenty eighteen as homines sixty million pound pledge to plant trees is dwarfed by thirty billion pound road spending bill that wrong with trees that's a really good for the environment trees are very good news i mean but this i don't know what the figure is was five hundred times as much. as on the roads people can use for buses or public transit where you were. and a new transport minister under who is the boss they can i was on the floor haven't and just including mclaughlin and all three of them committed to reducing carbon emissions and the transport sector is the only parts of the society where emissions from carbon are rising at the moment he's not producing. help the buses out of this or coaches or trains this is about more and more roads in the one nine hundred
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ninety two seminal the part of the transport study on road traffic showed that we're going to build a new road or widen existing road hey you would think you don't build yourself out of a problem and for philip hammond to abandon his climate change commitment but you had to develop a transport and to have more and more cars at the expense of public transport by the way and to get more carbon emissions is simply irresponsible you must have had discussions with him about this precise to yes we did we would you're going to school we did and we should agreement and we're great we came up with a formula which in which was a business case for new transport infrastructure whether it's roads or rail and part of that was a factor in the carbon emissions and the consequence for the environment and that's been swept away by by a one in the headline to satisfy tour about benches there are food banks across the country and the biggest gainers from yesterday's budget are those on the highest incomes so he's responded a bit you had to respond a bit to the reason may telling him it used to reserve
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a bit you know shouldn't have you had a prime minister telling the chancellor what to do i mean gordon brown wouldn't put up with this for tony blair george also would've had david cameron telling him but treatment he's announced fuel duty are about austerity he has to go along in unfold ok well maybe maybe because breaks it is on his mind that's going to financial times and the great success the government is having over these complex yes ideas yes the irony of that for those of you with a view was we were sort of the pressure on a rule to her only fourteen of two hundred thirty six e.u. international treaties well this is mean this is calamitous this is this is everything not this isn't the thoughts of the trade loudly in my spare craft it's it's about nuclear arrangements this is terrible but also what they're doing is they want to scrap the two hundred thirty six little treaties or does it mean they've been lazy or does it mean they're going to really push it we've got to we've got to really go sure everything will be. choice a conscious decision not to have been really negotiate i don't know quite know
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they've got to renegotiate these treaties with other countries what's happening in other countries as britain's defense as we will get a better deal or britain so they would agree to renew these teachers in the same terms that the e.u. had did for us well if they go see all worse terms it's just another bridge to disaster i don't know how many people have died since we started the conversation just now reviewing the papers figures from save the children of people who died in yemen have increased they've got new figures now let's go to the express and the story we just seemed to disappeared little well it has. to show the bombshell britain knew of could not plot and bait saudi arabia to abort plans well look on the face of it suspicious story hasn't been big the papers backed by a source is that the not named the fact is if this story had appeared in any other paper particularly say the mail all the times of the guardian it would have been followed through by the papers but nobody believed the express pressures a paper full of miracle cures all of heat waves of unfreezes and of princess di
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being murdered now it is perfectly possible the m i six has been listening to what's happening through. condition to what's happening in other countries they did all the time and i wouldn't rule out the fact that the some some hidden agenda we don't know about but will we be able to put a new chemical weapons were being used by the saudis in yemen it says here and i six. did know alerted five teligent is not of the united states that could show he so the decision was taken we did what we could well i'm not saying it was murder i don't know whether the join the kerry well it's i don't know what the expression dory is well funded or not i guess we wouldn't know until someone else does some proper research or that some journalist or some proper research there was you don't have to believe all the story to know that it's likely m i six was or was listing to other countries intercept i mean that's what you do all the time just not beyond the bounds of possibility that. the saudis had a a further agenda we don't know about but just leave it near we don't know but i
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certainly think it's worth following through barred by a reputable paper ok well we know that britain sold two hundred twenty one millions of export licenses to israel for weapons a twenty something good to this in the guardian this is this is yet another horrible story about israel gaza the three boys killed in israeli airstrikes a palestinian medics you know that the amount of firepower and live ammunition the israelis use against children and against people who are throwing stones style weapons is simply inhumane in the world to stand up to this role of mourning israel says under the well this is of course has got countries around who don't who don't recognize it exists and that's wrong as well but the response is completely disproportionate to the threat which is being issued to the country really i mean israel's nuclear power it can stop anything frankly on its borders it does not use live ammunition like this known mega thank you well from major nation back bombing
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in gaza to nato nation back torture in south america joining me now via skype from connecticut in the northeast of the us is professor james kevin yarrow he's worked with the survivors of pinochet's u.k. u.s. back chilean government and the refugees from cia back to el salvadorian death squads james welcome to going underground the state mandated b.b.c. monitoring unit here it in britain tweeted or posed a question could both be a refreshing break from political correctness that had to take that down what's your perspective on posing a question like that well the question is is the trance of. actually seeing. a sensitive scene because also model represents the great. there is absolutely nothing refreshingly about it he represents agree not just from critical correctness represents a break from democratic values from the one. law from human rights and from for value of human dignity he has ordered torture he has called for the now as
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a limitation of political opponents he has called for people to mark the to show thousands he said thousands more should have been killed during the dictatorship in brazil and again these are not merely outlandish comments in a fact their comments from someone who lived through that resilient and ship who knows what it means and to a problem in brazil that is very much aware of what do you mean to propose torture to support torture and to support military dictatorship in summary executions so there's this a break it's a break from normalcy it's a great from decency it's nothing to question about it i want to get on to the torch especially with your perspective as someone who's analyzed torture in previous decades but it was new to the b.b.c. the canadian broadcasting corporation funded by the government said that brazil's new president elect is a right winger who leans towards more open markets this could mean fresh
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opportunities for canadian companies equally problematic but look at it if we look at your service perspective what you'll see unfortunately our alliances between right or center or extreme right and a fair cherry in political groups and big business right wing groups in latin america have so intimidated the work of extractive industries they've selected the work of large investments because they've been able to acquire the said offerings tally so this is not new this is not acceptable to get in bed with someone who wants to kill torture eliminate rights and undermine democracy we always invite the brazilian i'm best of maybe a new one to london on the show he said he's old enough to remember the dr days of the dictatorship where you've done work on british back. pinochet the government in chile on the el salvador what if he was to have me late those
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examples you've told to survive is what do they talk to you about the procedures meted out to groups not disposed to the ruling government. when survivors narrates what sort of a record shows and you know as for your research and refuses and to anyone in brazil and central america. for caring regimes in latin america the relatively recent past implemented measures. very crude that's wads institutionalized torture forced this experience what we're talking about this state of near constant fear which anybody can go missing to be seized from his or her home subjected to hours isn't weeks of torture. murdered. or alternatively incarcerated with no legitimate basis just conditions and dungeon
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like conditions for years on it so we know when latin america want to start bringing means we know what are not and we to need to be tough i'm fine cracked now and only need opponents needs the means eliminate it means behead them it needs torture be. it means pregnant women until they give birth and then murdering women and you think that they view each others all of this recent life or past this is not hypothetical this is really frightening terrible tension how it is that we have to address me as a response i should say that margaret thatcher the former british prime minister said pinochet was a hero and of course pinochet was let go from britain and for british tourists diction do you think the that this time around they would involve nato nation intelligence forces collaborating with what you characterize as a. tarion government in the making i hope this is a hope not an expectation i hope that western democratic states would
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use their leverage to constrain and limit intentional abuses by postmodernist government that's right hope unfortunately we have a long history in the u.k. and the u.s. and elsewhere of support for authoritarian regimes and so forth which tragically is driven by big business interests and the financial interests of large multinational corporations based in the u.k. and united states so i hope and it's back to. back to my most hopeful sense that british maryse you can various canadian authorities force member states will hold the line on human rights and press also not on the government to respect the constitution and its international commitments but that has certainly not always been the case and there is every reason to fear that powerful states will turn a blind eye and we have great reason to fear that the united states will support full sonata i understand that trump has already called to congratulate him. i think
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trumps he's also not only as someone who has been lifted by trump's ascendance sort of part of the global. great neo nationalist movement so there is some indication that there will be support that and both in the united states and in the u.k. and also in western europe there are laws and procedures and limits on the ability to support rights of users in other countries it's my fears most of the united states and maybe the u.k. professor james have an ira thank you and that's it for the show will be back on saturday when we speak to the man who could be president of libya in december until then he went on to have social media will be back on saturday one hundred years to the day of the german workers revolution that paved the way for the end of world war one which killed or wounded more than forty million.
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this is says harlan kentucky. boy says he was very funny as. a co money since he was almost no coal mines left. the jobs are gone all the coal was that. these people the survivors of disappearing before their eyes. i remember thinking when i was younger that if anything ever happened to the coal mines here that it would become a ghost town but i never thought in a million years i would see that and it's how it's happened.
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in twenty forty you know bloody revolution to correct the demonstrations going from being relatively peaceful political protests to be creasing the violent revolution is always spontaneous or is it still war here i mean i live. in the. school and you go to the former ukrainian president recalls the events of twenty four. of those who took had invested over five billion dollars to assist ukraine in these and other goals that will ensure a secure and prosperous and democratic. so
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