we can go to the tribal areas on the way because of security reasons. why few flights that are you know. thank. you from america and please send me where i will that's the important thing and. i'll call our producer ok and then we'll figure out just where you could look all the best. to get by by. a lot of tourist stay here according to the bureau of investigative journalism there have been more than four hundred drone strikes since two thousand and four killing around a thousand innocent civilians and that's just in pakistan a local content just taken me to meet a man who narrowly avoided one of those strikes. on.

the phone to the. middle my mum and again other men out of these times above but. nothing to them if you can you give them but. i look at. the photo of the struggle to go understand it was. through the school. the budget. her. waziristan is the mountainous region between pakistan and afghanistan a self-proclaimed bottom recognised states populated with disaffected pashtun tribes it's been viewed as a taliban stronghold since two thousand and one attacks on the government has so far been unable to regain control of the area. like claims to have been personally targeted by at least four drone. strike since two thousand and ten. was it

a stunning to go at this time it was now. out of the. school but. they had. to be a little they. had to be. told let alone the hill. to face like. sean west mall and is a former drone communications technician since leaving yet false he struggled to come to terms with the role he played in the u.s. drone program. yeah i was i was sleeping in the back of this truck all the way for about a quarter of last year's. growth in i mean psychological issues. so yeah the fed back there are

a little space here and sleeping on top of the mountain wasn't getting the help i needed and you know i was kind of i knew on issues not to october and. you know i had slipped to the bridge. a couple of nights and i was. seriously planning on jumping. and. i decided that. i shouldn't do that and i should i should get help and i should. you know you probably have somebody else. taking care of me for a certain amount of time. there is a member of the community that was nice enough to. allow me to basically say this place and be the groundskeeper here for about a year. i haven't really had a stable place to stay up until now but i had gardening knowledge so you know when

you're in the military your chief purpose is mostly to destroy things. you know i have been dealing with that for a while. so. having i mean you know the ability to work on plants and stuff like this is kind of feeling for me. you know from using my creative energy to destroy things to creating life. well so it was thank you very much for directions i look forward to meeting you. yeah thank you very much. i arranged to meet at the new mexico state university flight center the sense of where integrates an unmanned aircraft into regular international airspace and these people know everything there is to know about drugs. i did twenty

nine years the united states navy any type of intel is good intel when you're not seeing a pilot's life that's even better plus when you think about it in the future is unmanned an f. sixteen can take a probably a fifteen or twenty degree turn the problem is the pilot passes out at nine or ten g. so if you take the pilot out does that make it a better fighter aircraft well sure it does because now it turns tighter it goes faster just doesn't want. these are excellent tools and not so we always say this isn't a solution it's a tool. the flew the tiger shark in afghanistan or iraq and this aircraft i'm going to stay so an iraqi police get to go without leaving the base you can see you know countryside out there. without having to worry about get shot down yeah yeah. so

the b.s.a. is they keep people safe yeah there are some operations were when i was flying. you know troops are in contact you know they told us to go down and fly as low as we could to try to draw fire oh really ok they were able to get people out because they were. firing at us from. the movement for justice is a political party in pakistan the taliban branded its leader opposition politician emraan khan and infidel and even wanted him dead we met at his home in islamabad now under constant armed guard he's one of pakistan's most popular politicians organizing rallies that attract thousands of followers he doesn't believe the conflict can be solved militarily neither in afghanistan or pakistan i feel that this is a total violation of human rights it killing people by these drones basically sitting on

a screen and eliminating people dehumanizing them treating them. as if you know this from some other planet not giving them a basic right of proving their innocence i mean it violates all norms of justice they claim they have intelligence that shows that there are terrorists. they're bombing villages their villages their their houses their mud houses the bombing them and then that think that the bone when it's when it busts when it's spent is that the shrapnel knows exactly who is a terrorist and who's a woman and it was a child with a grandmother i mean there is so many instances of people being killed who had nothing to do with the terrorism and and then those who call terrorist sometimes they claim that they've killed a terrorist and then you see he's alive so who have been killed. i received

a performance report resist which was intended for like promotional purposes. that was it said rice isn't she doesn't want to close air support missions and two hundred plus enemy kills we asked there are several of us that ass you know how many civilians died and they wouldn't tell us but if you understand the areas that we're covering and you were to look at the unanimous report on the amount of civilian casualties and that happened that year. there would be somewhere around three hundred fifty nine. you can understand in a way that ok americans maybe don't see that their actions are in fact fewer langmore terrorism but why does the pakistani government's not put more pressure in order to stop this program and on its own land all the seas dollars and if you pay them enough dollars they're willing to. allow americans to bomb their own country

which is an ally of the u.s. i guess that is a u.s. ally in this war on terror so it's never happened in history where but a country is bombed by its own ally god god god oh. oh . but. knew about from as a journalist from north waziristan whenever there is any drone strike local people call him so he can document the number of innocent civilians killed. some money was used on me to help but. notice how tough it is that i've come to. know that the law but i'm out on the eve of this issue one minutes i did that they are like a taxi go home forty dollars but it was drawn compliment. the other couple of

argument will help but. maybe they need think that they look i think you may need. these days that i know where you are in the world the chances are you're being watched and with the seemingly unstoppable proliferation of drones privacy may be a thing of the cost military drones have resulted in the deaths of thousands of innocent people and to strike anytime and you like it so it's one thousand meters in the yeah you probably won't have the slightest idea you'll be watched and if the itzhak won't see it coming. the talk of impending war around the world is on the increase the great powers speak all fully on the need to prepare for

a conflict what does this tell us if anything it appears to be a sign the global order they came into being up in the second world war and the cold war has come to an end what is replacing it. could be to play. i live eat here. i d. . be done. we have many things in this world this is you know. why some peoples also take our things all the power just for themselves.

given the way in which to lust terrorists attacks with program structured using european with just these as you can see there's a certain desire to change the way of life change to society in from. anything through the back or front. well maybe even back you know. if it's your choice right now. if you don't feel comfortable then we're in the fact that we would we do we're going to first steps we have to turn around this way.

both forty fifty minutes all so i. see the face just behind me is a sign with those statistics. the number of victims killed in all the different countries where children have been used on a sign that says just say no. so it is not just the five least. a conniption i know it's an innocent people it's a fight to the killing people anyway but the fact you know the united states does not have the right side of the fence and you know sometimes i get frustrated because in the most tragic part of the children they get yeah but sometimes the civilian issue is imprecise tonight and it's just the idea of assassination of women you know. base is code pink an organization founded and run by

a group of women campaigning to end u.s. wars and militarism today they're protesting against creech air base but of all the people i met i was keen to talk more to underwrite a former army colonel and u.s. diplomats. creech drone base is the only place really in the world where you can see drones taking off and landing they're the practice vehicles for drone pilots that are just learning to control them yeah and then will start controlling them in afghanistan or pakistan somalia yemen who knows really where they will it's also based not only for u.s. military pilots and contractors and cia but also the british for years have had drone pilots and if you look way back in there at those facilities you know back in there somewhere are the actual control pods where the pilots that are controlling

them in afghanistan and pakistan sure. we know that in this midst of thousands of cars to come in every morning and believe. that there are drone pilots that may have just killed somebody in afghanistan or pakistan may have killed a wedding party. whatever you don't even know who the killer whale no doubt. but you know most here to protect you. it clears the anti-protons of the everybody so i just like the one deal with them all of. whom i know you know will take care of my children are you looking for a man somewhat lengthy before. you like the clock i do i think you know if you do before me leave people might think. well i think first and foremost i think oh yeah and a good scratch here you didn't hear me they went yeah fortunately your compassion

what do you think the light ally saudi inch of them is like faceless mosques is going to face this victims of the drones i know a lot worse mr best the commander is a criminal but it should come out with fascinating it isn't even he should be arrested that's not for me the funds was needed nothing else to me and. i didn't write. the lyrics. he thought my last. two through four.

son of a mixed emotions really i was expecting the protest to be a bit bigger if i'm honest there are about fifteen people so you've got to wonder. what effect such a small process is going to have on the people people entering the base the government. yeah kareem khan lives in waziristan and there's another drone victim his relatives still i didn't want to attack. the good. kid that. they have no. doubt of that in in the c.b.o.t. the c b bus but i've got all you'll be they'll come and all that the incumbent will . be just you know took the. judge at the end i glance at the end but at that michael that could have been penned it's in a meter map a scale us once again. pakistani

lawyer says that bar defies the rights of drone attack victims he says the problem is almost never discussed because victims simply have nowhere and nobody to turn to . drone strikes have been taking place in mostly north waziristan in south waziristan tribal your forecast on which is cut off from rest of the country because of many reasons but to put it very simply it's a black hole of information now to turn. now to. so this is what's been recovered from waziristan you know from also sites we actually have. pictures of people who have been killed by these and as i was as

well so what we did is like in two thousand and twelve we did a. negative vision by a powerful so for example in this religion on such and such a date this was i was like a word from a house that killed six people including three of those and one charge. the nightmares about standing in the village trying to get the kids to come home to me. and to some shelter in their own just standing you know the drones and. you know before anybody could really get them to come in they. exploded. so i would meet in the months and there's also. this don't let just goes on the country lecturing about drones so we should be pulling cers house.

that was expensive and you go to. put a drop yeah like a drone i don't make oh. so these are the four hellfire and the two bombs i'm assuming yes it's all right these are all these are all laser guided bombs and missiles ok and i mean yeah and the hellfire missile was made for use against trucks armor you know tanks and buildings and so when it's used against people and then the course this is the camera appear ok but you know it was used to target people there the whole message of this to the people in other countries is terror this shows places in africa

where. it's known that there are drone bases or drone operations of some kind. and one of the questions is about. i think most people in germany are not in favor of drone war but the united states has. a. drone relay information control center and rob stein and it seems to be very critical information coming from creech air force drone control center in the united states to rob stein and then through satellite the drones might be controlled to attack in yemen or you know afghanistan or iraq somalia. so it seems that rob stein is very critical node in this.

to find out more about germany's role of consequence to me to address it with a lawyer defending the rights of the survivors of a drone strike in yemen. complaining against sea german government especially as they bring forward so use of the ramstein air base can explain the loss the legality or illegality of germany allowing the us to use ramstein as a relay base yes we see that see use soft drones of thrones buzzing united states for example in yemen. it's a violation of international law because. many people are killed ceremoniously.

indians are killed in yemen and that's unlawful under international law standards it's also unlawful under drama law standards. to cancer then i didn't read the book you think we had better. just. stop ramstein activists connie schmitz is driving us to the airbase on our way he told us that the movement has grown dramatically in the few months since it was founded in two thousand and fifteen the group's first rally in september was one of the biggest protest marches against the american air base for twenty years so many things in a place. and other areas. killing are more american than germans really yes it is not only true but it is you guys are so out i leave it eighty dollars and into town and with these hours and americans in. mission i didn't.

even know what happened. we know that they control they killed maybe four dollars and people would buy drilled in the icon told buy it i'm shot i am born in. the navy we'll each film on stein. and it is my duty to say no to the. i don't know if i need to be successful my success is to do wheat every year fourteen thousand airplanes go in over my house. well not necessarily there's a very small drone called the skinny eagle to draw next of a snake matson says you a piece will soon be capable of making autonomous decisions to carry of and there is. research that goes on around you know as far as we can gather

using. digital imaging people's faces to be put into the computer so that they can the drone can identify individual people ok on if. the idea there would be if you are drone pilots who don't want to fly drones just yeah i rather drone pilots are what the drones do the job and so. form a drone communications technician shawn westmoreland still haunted by night mess believes that tomorrow's drones will not be troubled by human conscience. machine learning and. intelligence. machines designed to make kill decisions. that's a little uncomfortable to talk. about.

thank. the police the moment i've seen lately can you imagine what will happen later on in the loop we've seen this happen for how many years now you must wonder what will it save for them to put an end to it was special no know how much money the arms industry is making from me exactly just recently we had once again another example of in pakistan the drone strike and we had those i don't want to kill the guy from afghanistan exact exactly right so we had the pakistani government slamming the us for violating the sovereignty but the current this all different war how many times i want a bit of a challenge. i find it. so incredible that. people in the united states accept the us as a we're fighting to who. should be some growth the bill winning the war on. no. no no of. course with

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