a lot of first place here according to the bureau of investigative journalism there have been more than four hundred drone strikes and see thousand and four killing around a thousand in the sense of billions and that's just in pakistan a local contact is taking me to meet a man who narrowly avoided one of those strikes. oh. i met him my mum again other men out of these times above but. nothing to them if you can you give them but. i look at them. the fight over the struggle to go understand it was fifty two

because of my b.-o. for the scoop on me if you'll get your ticket because. her. waziristan is the mountainous region between pakistan and afghanistan a self-proclaimed bottom recognized states populated with disaffected pashtun tribes it's been used as a taliban stronghold since two thousand and one attacks on the government has so far been unable to regain control of the area. malik claims to have been personally targeted by at least four drone strikes since two thousand and ten. was it a stunning to go at this time it was no. shortage of the. latest. to be a. general could be. but it will. not come on the hill. to face like at the head.

sean west mall and is a former drone communications technician since leaving yes force he struggled to come to terms with the role he played in the u.s. drone program. yas i was sleeping in the back of this truck all the way for about a quarter of last year's. growth in three i mean psychological issues. yeah the bed back there are a little space here and sleeping on top of the mountain wasn't getting the help i needed and you know i was kind of from you on issues back in october and. united slipped to the bridge. a couple of nights and i was. seriously planning on jumping. and.

i decided that. i shouldn't do that and i should i should get help and i should. you know you probably have somebody else. taking care of me for a certain amount of time. there is a member of the community that was nice enough. to basically say this place and be they they groundskeeper here for about a year. i haven't really had a stable place to stay up until now but i had gardening knowledge so you know when you're in the military your chief purpose is mostly to destroy things. you know i have been dealing with that for a while. so. having i mean you know the ability to work on plants and stuff like this is kind of feeling for me. you know from

using my creative energy to destroy things to creating life. well so it was thank you very much for directions i look forward to meeting you. yeah thank you very much. i arranged to meet at the new mexico state university flight center the sense of where integrates an unmanned aircraft into regular international airspace and these people know everything there is to know about drugs. i did twenty nine years the united states navy any type of intel is good intel when you're not seeing a pilot's life that's even better plus when you think about it in the future is unmanned an f. sixteen can take a probably a fifteen or twenty degree turn the problem is the pilot passes out at nine or ten g. so if you take the pilot does that make it

a better fighter aircraft well sure it does because now it turns tighter it goes faster just doesn't want. thank you. these are excellent tools and that's what we always say this isn't a solution it's a choice. the flu the tiger shark in afghanistan or iraq and this aircraft and so iraqi police get to go without leaving the base you can see you know countryside out there. without having to worry about get shut down yeah. so the b.s.a. is they keep people safe yeah there are some operations were when i was flying. you know troops are in contact you know they told us to go down and fly as low as we could to try to draw fire oh really ok they were able to get people out because they were. firing at us from. the movement for justice is a political party in pakistan it's taliban branded its leader opposition politician

emraan khan and infidel and even wanted him dead we met at his home in islamabad now under constant armed guard he's one of pakistan's most popular politicians organizing rallies that attract thousands of followers he doesn't believe the conflict can be solved militarily neither in afghanistan or pakistan i feel that this is a total violation of human rights it killing people by these drones basically sitting on a screen and eliminating people dehumanizing them treating them. as if you know this from some other planet not giving them a basic right of proving their innocence i mean it violates all norms of justice they claim they have intelligence that shows that they're terrorists. they are bombing villages their villages their houses their mud houses the bombing them

and then that think that the a bomb when it's when it busts when it's been. does that the shrapnel knows exactly who was a terrorist and who is a woman and was a child with a grandmother i mean there is so many instances of people being killed who had nothing to do with the terrorism and and then those who call terrorist sometimes they claim that they've killed a terrorist and then you see he's alive so who have they killed. i received a performance report resist which was intended for like promotional purposes. that was it said that isis and she doesn't want to close air support missions and two hundred plus enemy kills we asked there are several of us that ass you know how many civilians died and they wouldn't tell us but if you understand the areas that we're covering and you were to look at the unanimous report on the amount of

civilian casualties and that happened that year. there would be somewhere around three hundred fifty nine. you can understand in a way that ok americans maybe don't see that their actions are in fact fuel any more terrorism but why does the pakistani governments not put more pressure in order to stop this program and on its own land all the seas dollars and if you pay them enough dollars they're willing to. allow americans to bomb their own country which is an ally of the u.s. i guess that is a u.s. ally in this war on terror so it's never happened in history where we're a country is bombed by its own ally god god i.

knew about from as a journalist from north waziristan whenever there is any drone strike local people call him. he can document the number of innocent civilians killed. somebody was done me but. for those hoping this that i come to get. drunk goes out the law but i'm not on the basis of one minutes i did that they are like a taxi home for you but it was drawn compliment phone just. the other kind of argument will help a phone. maybe they need think that i just know i think you may need. these days that i know where you are in the world the chances are you're being watched and with a seemingly unstoppable proliferation of drones privacy may be a thing the cost military drones have resulted in the deaths of thousands of innocent people and to strike anytime anywhere so it's one thousand meters in the

yeah you probably won't have the slightest idea you'll be watched and if the it's such you won't see it coming. make this manufacture consent to public wealth. when the ruling classes protect themselves. with the fine larry go around listen to the one percent. we can all middle of the room sick. the real need.

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but on the pavement it's your choice right now and it is. let me let me ask you meet me if you don't feel comfortable in where in the back that we would we do we're going to for sounds we have to turn around come at this way. forty fifty me slightly. see the face just behind me is a sign with those statistics the number of victims killed in all the different countries where drones have been used on a sign that says let's just say no war. so it is not just the far east or. a killing up to nine outs and innocent people it's a fight to the killing people anyway but the fact you know the united states does

not have the right to defend no sometimes i get frustrated because they think that most tragic part of the children that get yeah but sometimes the civilian issue is emphasized too not and it's just the idea of assassination of women you know. base is code pink an organization founded and run by a group of women campaigning to end u.s. wars and militarism today they're protesting against creech air base but of all the people i met i was keen to talk more to underwrite a former army colonel and u.s. diplomats. creech drone base is the only place really in the world where you can see drones taking off and landing there the practice vehicles for drone pilots that are just learning to control them yeah and then we'll start controlling them in afghanistan or pakistan somalia yemen who knows really where they will it's

also based not only for u.s. military pilots and contractors and cia but also the british. for years i've had drone pilots and if you look way back in there at those facilities you know back in there somewhere are the actual control pods where the pilots that are controlling them in afghanistan and pakistan sure. we know that in this minute stuff balance of cars to come in every morning and believe. that there are drone pilots that may have just killed somebody in afghanistan or pakistan may have killed a wedding party or. whatever you don't know who that kid i don't know. if you know money here to protect. the police there should be any protests you know everybody so i just like the one deal with them for. me to be like oh you know will

take care of my children or you for advancing what you. think you do not the clock i mean i think you know anything before he leaves people might think. well i think the first and foremost like negotiating contracts every day that he did it what you have lots of moving your compassion what do you think that will light a lie sorry to interrupt him is like faceless mosques is kind of the face of the victims of the jones i don't want force mr best with the commander is a criminal is pretty good if you can come out with south meeting in the evil he should be arrested that's not it would be treatment of the funds which anybody nothing else to plan for up to trying hard you know running. her was home to her if you're all thinking on my first thing.

you're. mixed emotions really i was expecting the protest to be a bit big if i'm honest or about the people you know. what affects small process is going to have on the people people entering the base the government. karim khan lives in waziristan and there's another drone victim his relatives still i didn't want to track. in the c.b.o.t. the c b bus but i've got a lawyer would be. you know.

but other michel that could even. get a meter mouthpiece kill us once again. i am. focused on the lawyer for defense the rights of drone attack victims he says the problem is almost never discussed because victims simply have nowhere and nobody to turn to. drone strikes. north. of the country because of many reasons but. to put it very simply it's a black hole of information none of. that. none of. you.

so this is what's been recovered from waziristan you know from warsaw sites we actually have. pictures of people who have been killed by these and as i was as well so what we did is like in two thousand and twelve we did a. negative vision there powerful so for example in this religion on such and such a date this was i was at a word from a house that killed six people including cleared those. one child. the nightmares about standing in a village trying to get the kids to you know come on to me. and to some shelter just standing out looking at the drones and. you know before anybody could really get them to come in they. exploded.

so i would meet in the mots and there's also. this don't let just goes on the country lecturing about drones so we should people in stores house. that was expensive and you go. put the drug yeah like a drone i'll make a low speed so these are the four hellfire and the two bombs i'm assuming yes it's all right these are all these are all laser guided bombs and missiles ok and yeah and the hellfire missile. was made for use against trucks armor you know tanks and buildings and so when it's used against people and

then the course this is the camera appear ok but you know. to target people the whole message of this to the people in other countries is terror those shows places in africa where it's known that there are drone bases or drone operations of some kind. and one of the questions was about. i think most people in germany are not in favor of drone war but the united states has. a. drone relay information control center and rob stein and it seems to be very critical information coming from creech air force drone control center in the united states to rob stein and then through satellite the drones might be controlled to attack in yemen or you

know afghanistan or iraq somalia. so it seems that rob stein is very critical node in this. to find out more about germany's role of consequence to meet undressing without a lawyer defending the rights of the survivors of a drone strike in yemen. so he's. playing against see german government especially as they bring forward so use of the ramstein air base can you explain the loss the legality or illegality of germany

allowing the u.s. to his ranch that has a real a base. yes we see that the use of drones of thrones was a united states for example in yemen. it's a violation of international law because. many people are killed so there are many civilians are killed in yemen and that's unlawful under international law standards it's also unlawful under german law standards. after that and we need to put you that we have been. just cut out to stop ramstein activists connie schmitz is driving us to the airbase on our way he told us that the movement has grown dramatically in the few months since it was founded and see thousand and fifteen the group's first rally in september it was one of the biggest protest marches against the american air base

for twenty years so many things that make them here. are the areas. here little more american than germans really yes it is not only true but it is you guys are still out there i leave it at eighty dollars and into town and with these hours and americans in the. region i didn't. know what happened. you know that they control they killed maybe four dollars and people would buy drilled in the icon told buy it i'm shot i am born in. the navy we'll each film on stein. and it is my duty to say no to the. i don't know if i need to be successful my success is to do wheat every year fourteen thousand airplanes go in over my house. well not necessarily there's

a very small drone called the skinny eagle and drone acts of a snake matson saves you a feast will soon be capable of making autonomous decisions to carry and there is. research that goes on around you know as far as we can gather using. digital imaging people's faces to be put into the computer so that they can the drone can identify individual people and ok on if. the idea there would be if you are drone pilots who don't want to fly drones just yet there are other drone pilots and what the drones do the job. form a drone communications technician shawn westmoreland still haunted by night mess believes that tomorrow's drones will not be troubled by human conscience. machine learning and artificial intelligence and.

machines designed to make kill decisions. that's a little uncomfortable to talk. about. thank. the police the moment oh absolutely can you imagine what will happen later on in the loop we've seen this happen for how many years now you must wonder what will it save for them to put an end so it was special no know how much money gums interest is making for me exactly just recently we had once again another example in pakistan the drone strike and we had this i don't want to kill the guy from afghanistan exact exactly right so we had the pakistani government slamming the u.s. for violating the sovereignty but the current this all the floor how many times i want a bit of a challenge. i find it. so incredible the. people in the united

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