it's time for critical thinking it's time to fight for the middle for the truth the time is now we're watching closely watching the hawks. glow in the welcome to cross talk or all things considered i'm peter lavelle maybe just maybe there is some hope for yemen and globalist suffer a major defeat in brazil and much much more on this edition of crossfire. cross talking some real news i'm joined by my guest here in moscow mark sloboda

he's an international affairs and security analyst we also have dimitri bob he is a political analyst with sputnik international and we have author he's the deputy dean at the department of political science at moscow state university all right gentlemen crosstalk rules in effect that means you can jump in anytime you want and i always appreciate mark let me go to you first here we have announcements proclamations coming from the united states from the state department to the defense department about yemen about calling for a cease fire within thirty days get some movement on that does that story have any legs at all because the saudis and others in the region have not really officially reacted peter don't you think it's time to move on from this story obviously we're spending far more time than the western mainstream media as you keep in but that's what that's why are i going saudis are i don't expect anything to come from this first of all the most strained voice in yemen. among

the government and must be said the larger blob on the right or left is. james mad dog mattis the secretary of defense and he is the most restrained voice in the administration which is probably why he's been slated to likely be removed from office after the midterms with trump saying he's kind of a democrat and talking about him leaving is what written on the wall yet but maybe it is well i guess we're talking about yemen is a kid you're talking to about because shogi because that seems to be disappearing too it will take weeks to determine what kind of sanctions will be although how many new cycles and i think it will all be forgotten intentionally well. right now the western media is concentrated on how everyone reacts to its novel in reality i think we should look at the past who supported the thought of muhammad bin solomon and sold you during the last five or six years in fact in russia.

iran didn't has a board didn't know who supported or haven't been summoned it was the united states israel it was israel it was basically all we know all the european union they supported his stance on our sort of one hundred percent they supported his action in yemen but how do percent when it started in august two thousand and fourteen let me bring you back to august two thousand and fourteen first the western world was expecting that the ukrainian army would finally crush you know that rebellion this thing called it in the east of ukraine although the real rebellion happened several months before that even keel with thirty five policemen killed i wonder how all of the american media would describe a peaceful demonstration killing thirty five policemen in washington right that's that's why they have the mainstream media. except actually that they expected a victory in ukraine and they. quick victory in yemen and look how they

reacted to the fact that russia too can neutral stand at that time and didn't support they said that russia isolated to itself by this action even more than it did itself by not supporting the draw and western and arab league action against mr ross and who's who said it was basically a vote of the tory ups in there in the new york times in new york and it was their general the general grant you know if you look at the media in europe in the united states it was basically saying the same thing if everyone goes against again let me remind you egypt when thinking even pakistan went against yemen if everyone goes against yemen then yemen is probably wrong well it's the same thing with syria you know when the whole class at the boy you know usually it's the bond but not other friends lost me that tells us very clearly that the united states is not is not willing to restrain and saudis and their allies not in their war against him and me

i mean even it hardly got into the news into the fear and now people know about it there's still no real push to end this senseless war well i think that the united states. can weed in position on the shore give fair on the one hand it's not possible to cancel on the call the contracts all the idea of the american administration is just to determine who is person responsible for that so also the relationship of the saudi relationship is trumps any kind of personal response or committing premeditated murder yes sure sure sure so it's not not to blame the whole country the whole the leadership but just to trace and punish only those who are responding that would be the house of saud. the solution to it is. yes well same as we are but neither were. fifteen so it's the thought that it no of course

so here it was not by you know that you got that huge deep analysis that he did. switch gears here. the tropical trump what's going on in brazil because i think western media is misunderstanding fundamentally what is going on in brazil and what happened with the electorate when what i mean by saying that is if you look at the coverage it's basically blaming the people the way they voted it's an echo of how liberal media looks at american politics it's the deplorable fault ok i think that some a misreading of what's going on here in brazil. so we had an extreme right wing what is often described as populist i would rather refer to as fascist leader be. for the most part freely elected other people fascists than. some of them have. fifty five percent thirty percent of the british of the

brazilian electorate and they are required to vote either an old or did mark down their ballots they did not they chose not to vote and actually i think the big reading of this right you had a leftist candidate like the last few governments have been loose the silver was not allowed to run he was jailed on politically motivated corruption party by then the judge who jailed him was immediately given a position in both the naro you would administration. i think this is a failure of the liberal democrats of course that's what i think too because they were so threatened by left wing governments that redistributed wealth to brazil's very large impoverished population education health programs etc that they chose either not to vote or they voted for the law and the one promising brutal law and order and i mean one has one of the highest homicide rates

in the world it does but it's going to have a higher because this one says he's going to give police freedom to kill and that a policeman who doesn't kill isn't a policeman ok he may have it with pretty interesting here is that i think western liberals they see what's going on in brazil through the prism of contemporary politics in the west and i know up to this list as president elect he is fighting the battle of the sixty's and the seventy's he was part of the home to in brazil this is here is the us supported fact. this is almost like a time capsule in a way if you look at the rhetoric of brazilian politics it's almost. a real. flexion of the battles like they part then go well if you look at their way the american media reacts to elections in which in america they're never there waiting

americans always get it or don't remember the date i reply i'm the oldest here i remember just have democracy and let people vote then they started voting to the left oh now we have to get rid of these or jeans here this is pattern just let me just give you what they're headed to our new york times can brazilian democracy be saved but my question is what is your business about saving democracy in brazil you already saved democracy in one thousand and seventy three you already saved democracy in brazil in the age of sixty four supported basically a coup or against the brazilian president who worked with the accused of being an coots with according to law school well my eldest daughter get home i just don't get hundred. percent of what tomorrow is going to talk about that but my understanding is that people in latin america are fed up with the so-called mainstream liberal politics and they try to get out of the mainstream they voted for charges in one thousand one thousand nine hundred. twenty. you know given

billions to the united states and their company and given millions to to us well and its people you know. so you know i and others were not happy with the charges and the now they're not happy with their new rule they're never there with both and are all now in brazil and the problem is that the mainstream doesn't walk in this is what this is like it was a detail you're of the establishment that it's really interesting that mark already alluded to it i mean if you look ever since democracy came to brazil it is essentially been the left the center very solid left the center is what. the five percent and you have even general calls playing a very important role here i mean the message was very very different. what was being reported in we're all western media here of course we heard. less than sterling. narratives about politics i mean this president elect he's

a bit vulgar i guess that's why these called the tropical trouble here but this is a radical message from the vast majority of the people to the elites exactly i think that the presidential election in brazil they reflect the general trend that people in general are tired of the old elite and the old model of governance so there is a demand for elite change and both sunroof found very successful have found its own role and is very radical statements maybe just for p.r. to get more publicity i don't think they were all into really doing this in a lot of things which i think that it's actually that the law and order anti corruption rhetoric it because you hear all these other bolder things people are filtering that out because what they want is someone that's going to speak directly to their conservatives exactly it reminds me of one survey of public opinion poll

that was done in brazil you need eighty's and i think american scientists who were there they were shocked by the results more than sixty percent of brazilians the maybe asked several thousand people they said they could vote for any government. to be huge and new emperor or communists or democrats. on the condition that these governments holds two major problems or brazil or decayed poverty and crime hold that thought we're going to go to a short break here and after that short break we'll continue our discussion and some real news stay with r.t. .

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welcome back across like we're all things are considered i'm peter lavelle to remind you we're discussing some real news.

ok let me go back to mark here let's look if there is so a trend some tendencies here in the take a look at briggs it trump hungry germany brazil is there a thread that ties them all together no ok no i think too much can be made i think this brazil is a particular situation that has a lot to do with brazil's history of dictatorship and the history of the u.s. backed military dictatorship throughout south and that's a theme that doesn't get the mainstream all ok so. this is a leader who has said that openly many times he supports dictatorship he wants to turn brazil into a dictatorship he said a former congressman he said the he is an admirer of pinochet and wants to bring speed oshea neoliberal shock therapy economics to the country he says the problem with the previous brazilian us back to it or ship is that it imprison too many

people and didn't kill enough we need to kill at least thirty thousand he wanted to start a civil war and kill thirty thirty thousand back in the ninety's he's torture he's all in favor of it he thinks it's great. the indigenous there are parasites we have to get rid of all the native reserves and got fifty five fifty five going on fifty five percent of the one thirty percent of the population didn't even vote and. the principal leftist candidate who every polls agreed one of when was jailed. on politically motivated corruption charges right before the election. i don't see him as a populist in the brand of trying not i agree i agree this is. all the character of they make out of trump in the liberal media in the us this man actually represents and it is completely wrong that in the us they don't support him the us administration is crowing about his electoral waltz it is like to do all three

weeks of israel he already announced he's going to move the first that is the embassy to jerusalem and brooks is dead as it were he said this i was going to he's going to move brazil so far into the us camp right now the biggest thing they're talking about in the us neo cons circles i'm looking at former admiral stavridis writing in bloomberg talking about the sweep of victory for both the u.s. and iran saxes us american yeah but it's not a coincidence that john bolton u.s. national security advisor referred to a new troika of tyranny and a triangle of terrorism talking about. the saudi arabia qatar and bahrain no no no that was and nicaragua granted or us. cuba and venezuela has already been overthrown in a u.s. backed. me here i mean there are people that are like to use the be example of

germany and brazil is part of this populous way and i agree with mark populism is a more of a strategy and not an ideology they think we should do a separate program on that. marx's there's not enough there to tie them together but to take well first of all. i should i think we just don't know i mean a lot of horrible things are said to the philippine. president taft it because of he has a way of fighting the drug problem we'll do night that states and their friends in mexico killed forty five thousand people you're in these war on drugs that is a fact and there's a lot more than there is accused of killing in the filipino in the philippines so i think we just don't know which to see how he will act and what will happen because i'm kind of tired of the united states saying we know saddam hussein is going to wage a war of the media east qaddafi is going to attack europe by terrorist acts. might

do is going to attack colombia and then we have the united states and the european union take in iraq and then we have sarkozy started to bomb police so this so-called new order of the guys the mainstream guys who would fact i don't think we have to worry about this because he is an entirely pro u.s. candidate supported by us we have to see only it we'll see of other germany about germany well i think we should congratulate the world with the fact that america is leaving you know basically who is in the lecturing billions in in have some well the problem with america is that she is very politically correct she would not see things like the ones that are all set but she stopped at the coup in ukraine she supported in person foreign minister was speaking to the peaceful protesters in my don who killed thirty five interesting she compared the division of division

between crimea and ukraine to the division of germany this was all very bloody what are interesting because you know if you look back in two thousand and fourteen that was one of the first major foreign policy initiatives that the europeans had under the home. angela merkel and it was an utter catastrophe here gentlemen i want to move on here and talk about. it's time for sanctioning of iran here. i think that if this was done fifteen or twenty years ago there might be something to it but i think there's going to be an enormous amount there already rhetorical he is a lot of pushback against the trump administration for its attempted global sanctioning. iran and it isn't going to happen and our wide relationships already under stress are going to be under even more stress iran is going to wait this in when this. well i would compare the decision about sanctions

against iran with the very recent decision to withdraw from this very good old treaty between us and after i have to read it yes and i think that the idea of president trump and his administration is first to free their own hands so there are no longer committed to some deals that were made by their predecessors so all of the they're not responsible for the policies of the previous presidents so it makes them more gives them more freedom of choice about their future moves and also i think it's very important to seize the initiative not be the follow through with the previous leaders but to to lead not too full so let's all really go she would really go she ate here but that's a policy of spite in seems to me anything that obama did it has to be here an idea and not i want to obama but yeah but i think also that you have again we've talked

many many times i've actually made separate programs on the hand of john bolton you know this is this is the next step right here in the threatening. this is going to be iran is going to draw a very specific lines in the sand i think this is a very important story first of all i mean we have to remember we have it ministration that the foreign policy at this point is now entirely in the hands of the. and you know they have a hard on for war with iran i mean there's exactly when you talk the understatement of freedom of of options that's exactly what we're talking about is they're moving step by step part of a you could see the scripted phases towards a war of aggression against iran and whether that's a libya style you know you know the supporting proxies or so on i think that's most likely case maybe some limited strikes but that's what we are going to do but these sanctions are a joke yes i mean did you did you see that the advertisements i mean they ran

advertisements for sanctions like. the interesting says george r.r. martin sanctions are coming instead of winter is coming these are the latest of countries that the u.s. has already granted waivers to because they already announced they're not going to follow as i should greatest hits china the biggest in the world and india the most populous country in the world taiwan right u.s. ally in little client state off the coast of china south korea u.s. ally in italy part of the e.u. the united arab emirates u.s. ally dictatorship in the middle east turkey a non really still part of nato kind of u.s. ally that the u.s. can't afford to middling or angry right now because they're their proxies are killing each other in syria and japan a major industrial company and us out of iraq they didn't make the cut grac iraq as

well and they've been granted only oil both for food and other things as well so before the sanctions are even come into effect they've already been granted waiver and the rest of the e.u. is certainly not going to follow suit either so sanctions sanctions are coming sanctions already left and they didn't have. a use and an american medium here i hope you catch it here but it's. no cattle. they really got it and i don't doubt an internet and i pod cows i just loved the way we were on the is there if. the european union if you look at the recent years the all only contrie that all put this said the album was the killer and the albany it opposed his actions was iran. and libya and russia he would russia didn't do it so when they say no or sanction iran or you know crippling sanctions sanctions. i

think they're trying to essentially coalitions because the iranians will do bonds who saw the real you and they actually called directed here. not only those eight countries are an exception even american companies may get special license from the treasury department and do business with iran if needed so it's like sanctions are a same shows but you can always get. this you know is this again from pulling out that in the book for the answer all of his little misses on the bus and his checks and all this it seems to me there we return here yet this is obviously a political move before the elections to a large extent. i'm not so sure how popular sanctions on iran are with the american people or not i don't think american people care about sanctions on iraq i mean i either way i don't think they don't support them i don't think they do support i don't think they really care about that's not what americans vote

or care about other other then from the angry comments the people that watch the show you all know that you are not the average americans that you actually are concerned with forget you would be watching this program watching the show if you are right but by and large you know every data shows americans do not vote on foreign policy and they certainly don't care whether their sanctions or not on iraq last thirty seconds go well there was more story there. all business. is going to face some very difficult times the president came to istanbul points to constantinople he signed a deal with patrick noble and the u.s. state department supported this so much for the wall of separation between church and state when the guy who came to power in ukraine would cool meeting that had all of a religious organization that represents a thousand people and even then. and they both decide to crush basically

a church which is about five thousand years old and we cater to the author because we're going to ask you to keep an eye on that story it will come back to you with that in the future that's all the time we have here many thanks to my guests here in moscow this is the end of our broadcast segment stay with us for the extended version on our you tube channel see you next time and remember across topples. i've been saying the numbers. matter us is over one trillion dollars and. more than ten times happy. eighty five percent of global wealth you want to be rich six percent markets thirty percent. somewhat four hundred to five hundred three per second per second and one rose to twenty thousand dollars.

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