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like this in the arsenals of the home study done with the old vision stopping there was a sting of phone calls a fund is up and these cards on the phone. joining me every first week on the all excitement and i'll be speaking to guest of the world of politics sports business i'm showbusiness i'll see if that. glow in the welcome to cross talk or all things are considered i'm peter lavelle maybe just maybe there is some hope for yemen and globalist suffer a major defeat in brazil and. much much more on this edition of cross.

cross talking some real news i'm joined by my guest here in moscow mark sloboda he's an international affairs and security analyst we also have dimitri he is a political analyst with sputnik international and we have author he's the deputy dean at the department of political science at moscow state university all right gentlemen crosstalk rules in effect that means you can jump in anytime you want and i always appreciate mark let me go to you first here we have announcements proclamations coming from the united states from the state department to the defense department about yemen about calling for a cease fire within thirty days get some movement on that does that story have any legs at all because the saudis and others in the region have not really officially reacted don't you think it's time to move on from this story obviously we're spending far more time than the western mainstream media as you keep in but that's

what we're that's why are i going saudis are on it i don't expect anything to come from this first of all the most strange voice in yemen. among the government and must be said the larger blob on the right or left is. james mad dog mattis the secretary of defense and he is the most restrained voice in the administration which is probably why he's been slated to likely be removed from office after the midterms with trump saying he's kind of a democrat and talking about him leaving is what written on the wall yet but maybe it is well i guess we're talking about yemen is a kid you're talking to about. because that seems to be disappearing it will take weeks to determine what kind of sanctions will be although how many new cycles and i think it will all be forgotten intentionally well. if we look at the hush. right

now the western media is concentrating on how everyone reacts to it's now been really think we should look at the past who supported the mohammed bin solomon and sold during the last five or six years in fact russia. iran didn't has ball i didn't know who supported or haven't been summoned it was the united states israel peoples israel it was basically all we know all the european union they supported his stance on our side one hundred percent they supported his action in yemen but how do percent when it started in august two thousand and fourteen let me bring you back to august two thousand and fourteen first the western world was expecting that the ukrainian army would finally crush you know that rebellion as they called it in the east of ukraine although the real rebellion happened several months before that in kiev with thirty five policemen

killed i wonder how all of the american media would describe a peaceful demonstration killing thirty five policemen in washington i think that's why they have the mainstream media. exactly that they expected a victory in ukraine and they expect it a quick victory in yemen and look how they reacted to the fact that russia too can neutral stand at that time and didn't support they said that russia isolated to itself by this action even more than it did itself by not supporting the draw and western and arab league action against mr austin who's who said it was basically a vote of the aged torrijos in the in the new york times in new york and it was their general the general grant you know if you look at the media in europe in the united states it was basically saying the same thing if everyone goes against again let me remind you egypt when things to yemen even pakistan went against yemen if everyone goes against yemen then yemen is probably. well it's the same thing with

syria you know when the whole costs at the boy usually if the bottle but it was all right and the french lost me that tells us very clearly that the united states is not is not willing to restrain. saudis and their allies not in their war against yemen me i mean even it hardly got into the news into the fear and now people know about it there's still no real push to end this senseless war well i think that the united states. can we in position on the show give fair on the one hand it's not possible to cancel on the all the contracts so all the idea of the american administration is just to determine who is person responsible for that so also the relationship of the saudi relationship is trumps any kind of personal response you are committing premeditated murder yes sure sure sure so it's not not to blame the whole country the whole their leadership but just to trace and punish

only those who are responding that would be the house of saud talked about it and the solution to it is it is. up same as we are but neither were the fifteen so it's the thought that no of course so you're able to by you know baghdad to deepen our celebrated. switch gears here. the tropical trump what's going on in brazil because i think western media is misunderstanding kind of mentally what is going on in brazil and what happened with the electorate what i mean what i mean by saying that is if you look at the coverage it's basically blaming the people the way they voted it's an echo of how liberal media looks at american politics it's the deplorable fault ok i think that some a misreading of what's going on here in brazil. so we had an extreme right wing what is often described as populist i would rather refer to as fascist

leader be for the most part freely elected other people fascists than. some of them have. fifty five percent thirty percent of the british brazilian electorate and they are required to vote either an old or did mark down their ballots they did not they chose not to vote and actually i think the big reading of this right you had a leftist candidate like the last few governments have been louis de silva was not allowed to run he was jailed on politically motivated corruption party by then the judge who jailed him was immediately given a position in both the naro would administration. i think this is a failure of the liberal democrats of course that's what i think too because they were so threatened by left wing governments that redistributed wealth to

brazil's very large impoverished population education health programs etc that they chose either not to vote or they voted for the law and the one promising brutal law and order and i mean one has one of the highest homicide rates in the it does but it's going to have a higher because this one says he's going to give police freedom to kill and that a policeman who doesn't kill isn't a policeman ok he may have to get with pretty interesting here is that i think western liberals they see what's going on in brazil through the prism of contemporary politics in the west and i know up to this list is president elect he is fighting the battle of the sixty's and the seventy's he was part of the home to in brazil this is here is the us supported fact. this is almost like a time capsule in a way if you look at the rhetoric of brazilian politics it's almost. a reflection

of the battles that they then go well if you look at the. way the american media reacts to elections in latin america they're never there waiting americans always get it or don't remember the date i reply i'm the oldest here i remember just have democracy and let people vote then they started voting to the left oh now we have to get rid of these or jeans here this is pattern just let me just give you with their kind of why new york times can brazilian democracy be safe but my question is what is your business about saving democracy in brazil you already saved democracy in one thousand and seventy three you already saved democracy in brazil in the age of sixty four supported basically a coup or against the brazilian president who worked with the accused of being an coots with according to law school well my eldest daughter get home i just don't get hundreds exactly what i do us and what tomorrow is going to talk about that my

understanding is that people in latin america are fed up with the so-called mainstream liberal politics and they try to get out of the mainstream they voted for charges in one thousand one thousand nine because they were fed up with the oil company. you know given billions to the united states and their company and given millions to to us well and it's people you know so you know i and others who are not happy with charges and all they're not happy with in the room they're never down there with both and are all now in brazil and the problem is that the mainstream doesn't walk in this is why this is the detail year of the establishment that it's really interesting that mark already alluded to it i mean if you look ever since democracy came to brazil it is essentially been the left the center very solid left the center what happened here fifty five percent and you have even general calls playing

a very important role here i mean the message was very very different than what was being reported in western media here of course we heard. less than sterling. narratives about politics i mean this president elect he's a bit vulgar i guess that's why these called the tropical tribe here but this is a radical message from the vast majority of the people to the elites exactly i think that the presidential election in brazil they reflect the general trend that people in general are tired of the old elite and the old model of governance so there is a demand for elite change and both sunroof found very successful have found its own role and is very radical statements maybe just for p.r. to get more publicity i don't think they were all into really doing the single things which i think that it's actually that the law and order anti corruption

rhetoric it because you hear all these other bolder things people are filtering that out because what they want is someone that's going to speak directly to their concerns exactly it reminds me of one survey of public opinion poll that was done in brazil immediately s. and i think american scientists who were there they were shocked by the results more than sixty percent of brazilians the maybe asked several thousand people they said they could vote for any government. to be huge and new emperor or communists or democrats. on the condition that these governments holds two major problems or brazil or decayed poverty and crime hold that thought we're going to go to a short break here and after that short break we'll continue our discussion and some real news stay with our.

old. manufacture consent to public wealth. when the ruling classes protect themselves. with the famous merry go round lifts only the one percent. can all middle of the room sick. you know world of big partisan. and conspiracy it's time to wake up to dig deeper to hit the stories that mainstream media refuses to tell more than ever we need to be smart we need to stop slamming the door. and shouting past each

other it's time for critical thinking it's time to fight for the middle for the truth the time is now we're watching closely watching the hawks. welcome back across all things are considered i'm peter lavelle to remind you we're discussing some real news. ok let me go back to mark here let's look if there is. a trend some tendencies here in the take a look at briggs that trump hungry germany brazil is there a thread that ties them all together no ok no i think too much can be made i think this brazil is a particular situation that has a lot to do with brazil's history of dictatorship and the history of u.s.

backed military dictatorship throughout south and that's a theme that doesn't get the mainstream. ok so. this is. a leader who has said that openly many times he supports dictatorship and he wants to turn brazil into a dictatorship he said a former congressman he said the he is an admirer of pinochet and wants to bring speed oshea neoliberal shock therapy economics to the country he says the problem with the previous brazilian us back to it or ship is that it imprison too many people and didn't kill enough we need to kill at least thirty thousand he wanted to start a civil war and kill thirty thirty thousand back in the ninety's he's torture he's all in favor of it he thinks it's great. the indigenous their parasites we have to get rid of all the native reserves and gun fifty five fifty five they got fifty five percent of the vote when thirty percent of the population didn't even vote and

the principle leftist candidate who every polls agreed one of when was jailed. on politically motivated corruption charges right before the election. i don't see him as a populist in the brand of trial no not i agree this is all the character of they make out of trump in the liberal media in the us this man actually represents and it is completely wrong that in the us they don't support him the us administration is crowing about his electoral waltz it is like to do all three weeks of israel he already announced he's going to move the the person the embassy to jerusalem and brooks is dead as it were he said it was with this i was great that he's going to move brazil so far into the us camp right now the biggest thing they're talking about in the us neocon circles i'm looking at the former admiral stavridis writing in bloomberg talking about the sweep of victory

for both the u.s. and iran so axis america yeah but it's not a coincidence. john bolton u.s. national security adviser referred to eight new troika of tyranny and a triangle of terrorism talking about. saudi arabia qatar and bahrain no no no that was and they are off handed or as. cuba and venezuela has already been overthrown in a u.s. backed. me here i mean there are people that are like to use the example of germany and brazil as part of this populous way and i agree with mark populism is a more of a strategy and not an ideology i think we should do a separate program on that. marx's there's not enough there to tie them together but you take well first of all. i should i think we just don't know i mean a lot of horrible things were said to the filipino president attempt it because of

he has a way of fighting the drug problem will do night that states and their friends in mexico forty five thousand people here in these war on drugs that is a fact and there's a lot more the ease accused of killing in the filipino in the philippines so i think we just don't know which to see how he will act and what will happen because i'm kind of tired all of the united states sane you know saddam hussein is going to wage a war of the media east qaddafi is going to attack europe by terrorist acts. might do is going to attack colombia and then we have the united states and the european union at take in iraq and then we have sarkozy started to bomb police so this so-called new order of the guys the mainstream guys who would fact i don't think we have to worry about this because he's an entirely pro u.s. candidate supported by us we have to see ok we'll see other germany about germany.

i think we should congratulate the world with the fact that america is leaving you know basically who is in the lecturing billions in. i have some well the problem with america is that she is very politically correct she would not see things like the ones that are all set but she stopped at the coup in ukraine she supported in person her foreign minister was speaking to the peaceful protesters in my down who killed thirty five interesting she compared the division of division between crimea and ukraine to the division of germany this was all very bloody what are interesting because you know if you look back in two thousand and fourteen that was one of the first major foreign policy initiatives that the europeans had under their homes. and it was an utter catastrophe here ok i want to move on here and talk about. it's time for sanctioning of iran here. i think that if this was

done fifteen or twenty years ago there might be something to it but i think there's going to be an enormous amount there already rhetorical he is a lot of pushback against the trump administration for its attempted global sanctioning. iran and it isn't going to happen and our wide relationships already under stress are going to be under even more stress iran is going to wait this in when this. well i would compare the decision about sanctions against iran with the very recent decision to withdraw from this very good old treaty between us and after i have to read yes and i think that the idea of president trump and his administration is first to free their own hands so there were no longer committed to some deals that were made by their predecessors so all the they're not responsible for the policies of the previous presidents so it makes

them more gives them more freedom of choice about what they're there for. moves and also i think it's very important to seize the initiative not be the full food the previous leaders but to to lead not too full so you have to really go she could really go she ate it but that ability of spite in seems to me anything that obama did it has to be undone here and i get it but i want to obama but you know but i think also that you have again we've talked many many times i've actually made separate programs on the hand of john bolton you know this is this is the next step right here in the threatening. this is going to be iran is going to draw a very specific lines in the sand i think this is a very important story first of all i mean what we have to remember we have it ministration that the foreign policy at this point is now entirely in the hands of the. bombay oh and you know they have a hard on for

a war with iran i mean there's exactly when you talk the understatement of freedom of of options that's exactly what we're talking about is they're moving step by step part of a you could see the scripted phases towards a war of aggression against iran whether that's a libya style you know you know supporting proxies or so i think that's most likely case maybe some limited strikes but that's what we are going to do but these sanctions are a joke yes i mean did you did you see that the advertisements i mean they ran advertisements for sanctions like. the interesting says george r.r. martin sanctions are coming instead of winter's coming these are the list of countries that the u.s. has already granted waivers to because they already announced they're not going to follow what is an extra greatest hits china the biggest in the world and india is

the most populous country in the world taiwan right u.s. ally in little client state off the coast of china south korea us. italy part of the e.u. the united arab emirates u.s. ally dictatorship in the middle east turkey a non-ruling still part of nato kind of u.s. ally that the us can't afford to middling or angry right now because they're their proxies are killing each other in syria and japan a major industrial company and us so we rather didn't make the cut back iraq as well and they've been granted only oil but for food and other things as well so before the sanctions are even come into effect they've already been granted waiver and the rest of the e.u. is certainly not going to follow suit either so the sanctions sanctions are calming sanctions already left and they didn't have. to use them in american media here i hope you catch it here but it's it's all hot no cattle. they really

want it and i don't doubt an internet and i pod cows i just loved the way they're on the is they have even though they have a speed seven day european union if you look at the recent years the all the contrary that all put this said that the bill sullivan was the killer and that albany it opposed his actions was iran you know that when russia he would russia didn't do it so when they say no or sanction iran or you know crippling sanctions sanctions. i think they're trying to essentially they're all of us because the iranians were the ones who saw the real deal and they actually come directly here. well not only those eight countries are an exception even american companies may get special license from the treasury department and do business with iran if needed so it's like sanctions are same shows but you can always get out of it is

this you know is this again from pulling out that in the book or the as all of his little misses on the bus and his checks and all this it seems to me very rhetorical here yet this is obviously a political move before the elections to a large extent. i'm not so sure how popular sanctions on iran are with the american people or not i don't think american people care about sanctions on it i mean i either way i don't think they don't support them i don't think they do support i don't think they really care about that's not what americans vote or care about other other than from the angry comments the people that watch the show you all know that you are not the average americans that you actually are concerned with for good you would be watching this program watching the show if you are right but by and large you know every data shows americans do not vote on foreign policy and they certainly don't care whether their sanctions or not on iraq last thirty seconds. there was. a story that happened or visit the

ukrainian troops is going to be some very difficult times that the president came to istanbul to unstick constantinople he signed the deal with the constantinople and the us state department supported this so much for the wall of separation between church and state we have the guy who came to power in ukraine who meeting they had all of a religious organization that represents eight thousand people even in istanbul and they decide to crush basically a church which is about twelve thousand years old and we cater to the author to be able to we're going to ask you to keep an eye on that story it will come back to you within. in the future that's all the time we have here many thanks to my guests here in moscow this is the end of our broadcast segment stay with us for the extended version on our you tube channel see you next time and remember crosstalk walls.

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