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hello and welcome to cross talk where all things are considered peter lavelle maybe just maybe there is some hope for yemen and global a suffer a major defeat in brazil and much much more on this edition of crossfire. cross talking some real news i'm joined by my guest here in moscow mark sloboda he's an international affairs and security analyst we also have dimitri he is a political analyst with sputnik international and we have author he's the deputy dean at the department of political science at moscow state university all right gentlemen crosstalk rules in effect that means you can jump in anytime you want and i always appreciate mark let me go to you first here we have announcements proclamations coming from the united states from the state department to the defense department about yemen about calling for

a cease fire within thirty days get some movement on that does that story have any legs at all because the saudis and others in the region have not really officially reacted don't you think it's time to move on from this story obviously we're spending far more time than the western mainstream media as you keep in but that's what we're that's why are i going saudis that are on it i don't expect anything to come from this first of all the most strange voice in yemen. among the government and must be said the larger blob on the right or left is. james mad dog mattis the secretary of defense and he is the most restrained voice in the administration which is probably why he's been slated to likely be removed from office after the midterms with trump saying he's kind of a democrat and talking about him leaving is what written on the wall yet. maybe it

is well i guess we're talking about yemen is a kid you're talking to about because shogi because that seems to be disappearing too it will take weeks to determine what kind of sanctions will be although how many new cycles and i think it will all be forgotten intentionally well if we will . right now the western media is concentrated on how everyone reacts to its novel in reality i think we should look at the past who supported the thought of mohammed bin solomon and sold during the last five or six years in fact russia. iran didn't has ball i didn't know who supported or haven't been summoned it was the united states israel it was israel it was basically all we know all the european union they supported his stance on our sort of one hundred percent they supported his action in yemen but how do percent when it started in august two

thousand fourteen let me bring you back to august two thousand and fourteen first the western world was expecting that the ukrainian army would finally crush you know that rebellion as they called it in the east of ukraine although the real rebellion happened several months before that in kiev with thirty five policemen killed i wonder how all of their american media would describe a peaceful demonstration killing thirty five policemen in washington i think that's why they have the mainstream media. except actually that they expected a victory in ukraine and they expected a quick victory in yemen at and look how they reacted to the fact that russia too can neutral stand at that time and didn't support they said that russia isolated to itself by this action even more than it did itself by not supporting the draw and western and arab league action against mr austin who's who said it was basically one of the tory ups in the in the new york times in new york and it was. their

general general grant you know if you look at the media in europe in the united states it was basically saying the same thing if everyone goes against again let me remind you egypt where. even pakistan when thinking if everyone goes against yemen then yemen is probably wrong well it's the same thing with syria you know when the whole class at the boy you know usually it's the bomb but it was all right and one of the friends lost me that tells us very clearly that the united states is not is not willing to restrain and saudis and their allies all in their war against yemen me i mean even it hardly got into the news into the fear and now people know about it there's still no real push to end this senseless war well i think that the united states. can we in position on shore give fair on the one hand it's not possible to cancel on the call the contracts all the idea of the american

administration is just to determine who is person responsible for that so also the relationship of the saudi relationship is trumps any kind of personal response you are committing premeditated murder yes sure sure sure so it's not not to blame the whole country the whole their leadership but just to to trace and punish only those who are responding that would be the house of saud talked about it and the solution to it is. yes same as we have but neither were the fifteen so it's the thought that no of course so here it was not by you know baghdad security plan or celebrated. switch gears here. the tropical trump what's going on in brazil because i think western media is misunderstanding kind of mentally what is going on in brazil and what happened with the electorate what i mean what i mean by saying that is if you look at the coverage it's basically blaming the people the way they voted. it's an echo of how liberal media looks at american politics it's

the deplorable fault ok i think that's some a misreading of what's going on here in brazil yeah. so we had an extreme right wing what is often described as populist i would rather refer to as fascist leader be. for the most part freely elected other people fascists than. some of them have. fifty five percent thirty percent of the british brazilian electorate and they are required to vote either an old or did mark down their ballots they did not they chose not to vote and actually i think the big reading of this right you had a leftist candidate like the last few governments have been louis de silva was not allowed to run he was jailed on politically motivated corruption party by then the judge who jailed him was immediately given a position in both the naro would administration. i think this is

a failure of the liberal democrats of course that's what i think too because they were so threatened by left wing governments that redistributed wealth to brazil's very large impoverished population education health programs etc that they chose either not to vote or they voted for the law and the one promising brutal law and order and i mean one has one of the highest homicide rates in the world it does but it's going to have a higher because this one says he's going to give police freedom to kill and that a policeman who doesn't kill isn't a policeman ok he may have met with pretty interesting here is that i think western liberals they see what's going on in brazil through the prism of contemporary politics in the west and i know up to this list is president elect he is fighting

the battle of the sixty's and the seventy's he was part of the home to in brazil this is here is the us supported fact. this is almost like a time capsule in a way if you look at the rhetoric of brazilian politics it's almost. a real. flexion of the battles that they go well if you look at their way the american media reacts to elections in which in america they're never there waiting americans always get it wrong don't remember the date i recall i'm the oldest here i remember just have democracy and let people vote then they started voting to the left oh now we have to get rid of these or jeans here this is pattern just let me just give you what they're headed to our new york times can brazilian democracy be saved but my question is what is your business about saving democracy in brazil you already

saved democracy in one thousand and seventy three you already saved democracy in brazil in the age of sixty four supported basically a coup or against the brazilian president who walked with the accused of being in coots with according to law school well my eldest daughter get home i just don't get hundred. percent of what tomorrow is going to talk about that but my understanding is that people in latin america are fed up with the so-called mainstream liberal politics and they try to get out of the mainstream they voted for charges in one thousand one thousand nine because they were fed up with the oil company. you know given billions to the united states and their company and given millions to to us well and it's people you know. so you know i and others were not happy with the charges and all they're not happy with in the room they're never there with both and they are all now in brazil and the problem is that the mainstream doesn't walk in this is what this is think it was

a detail you're of the establishment that it's really interesting that mark already alluded to it i mean if you look ever since democracy came to brazil it is essentially been the left the center very solid left the center is what happened here fifty five percent and you have even general calls playing a very important role here i mean the message was very very different. what was being reported in all western media here of course we heard. less than sterling. narratives about politics i mean this president elect he's a bit vulgar i guess that's why these called the tropical trouble here but this is a radical message from the vast majority of the people to the elites exactly i think that the presidential election in brazil they reflect the general trend that people in general are tired of the old elite and the old model of governance so there is a demand for elite change and bold sunroof found very successful have found its own

role and is very radical statements maybe just for p.r. to get more publicity i don't think he will improve really doing this in a lot of things which i think that it's actually that the law and order and corruption rhetoric it because you hear all these other borger things people are filtering that out because what they want is someone that's going to speak directly to their conservatives exactly it reminds me of one survey of public opinion poll that was done in brazil immediately s. and i think american scientists who were there they were shocked by the results more than sixty percent of brazilians the maybe asked several thousand people they said they could vote for any government. to be huge and new emperor or communists or democrats. on the condition that this government's holds two major problems or brazil or decayed poverty and convert crime hold that thought we're

going to go to a short break here and after that short break we'll continue our discussion and some real news stay with our. ministries police forces and city administrations of many countries depend on one corporation and another by mike was hoping when the board doesn't implement the guise of god i'm stunned this is going to going to drop woods as the fever did on him to see it the must also bribe them proprietary software you don't know the source code isn't that a such a security risk when you have a black box operating in the public eye to microsoft's dependency puts governments under a cyber threat and not only that seem to think off message and put us in malls in their banks or we close all facilities listening to music and selling your songs

the good one bloke all of them will fall into almost like the old mr the borden's problems with. things i'm told this is the icicles that died on me the old vision stopped and there was a steel mills in front is up and describes in the file. name wrong wrong all just all. get to shape out just the attic. and engagement equals betrayal. when so many find themselves worlds apart. just to look for common ground.

welcome back across like we're all things are considered i'm peter truman and you're discussing some real news. ok let me go back to mark here let's look if there is so a trend some tendencies here in the take a look at briggs it trump hungry germany brazil is there a thread that ties them all together no ok no i think too much can be made i think this brazil is a particular situation that has a lot to do with brazil's history of dictatorship and the history of u.s. backed military dictatorship throughout south and that's a theme that doesn't get the mainstream all ok so. this is a leader who has said that openly many times he supports dictatorship and he wants to turn brazil into a dictatorship he said a former congressman he said the he is an admirer of pinochet and wants to bring

neoliberal shock therapy economics to the country he says the problem with the previous brazilian us back to it or ship is that it imprisoned too many people and didn't kill enough we need to kill at least thirty thousand he wanted to start a civil war and kill thirty thirty thousand back in the ninety's he's torture he's all in favor of it he thinks it's great. the indigenous there are parasites we have to get rid of all the native reserves and fifty five fifty five million fifty five percent of them when thirty percent of the population didn't even vote and the principle leftist candidate who every polls agreed would have when was jailed. on politically motivated corruption charges right before the election. i don't see him as a populist in the brand. no not i agree i agree this is. all the character

of they make out of trump in the liberal media in the us this man actually represents and it is completely wrong that in the us they don't support him the us administration is crowing about his election while cities like to do all three weeks of israel he already announced he's going to move the first at the embassy to jerusalem and brooks is dead as it were he said this i was going to he's going to move brazil so far into the us camp right now the biggest thing they're talking about in the us neo con circles i'm looking at former admiral stavridis writing in bloomberg talking about the sweep of victory for both the u.s. and france axis america yeah but it's not a coincidence that john bolton u.s. national security advisor referred to eight new troika of tyranny and a triangle of terrorism talking about. saudi arabia qatar and bahrain no

no no that was and they. then ignore us. cuba and venezuela has already been overthrown in a u.s. backed. me here i mean there are people that are like to use the example of germany and brazil is part of this populous way and i agree with mark populism is a more of a strategy and not an ideology i think we should do a separate program on that. marx's there's not enough there to tie them together but to take well first of all. i should i think we just don't know i mean a lot of horrible things were said to the filipino president attempted because of he is away or fight in the drug problem will do night that states and their friends in mexico killed forty five thousand people here in these war on drugs that is a fact and that is a lot more the. he's accused of killing in the filipino in the philippines so i

think we just don't know which to see how he will act and what will happen because i'm kind of tired all of the united states sane you know saddam hussein is going to wage a war of the media east qaddafi is going to attack europe by terrorist acts. who is going to attack colombia and then we have the united states and the european union at take in iraq and then we have sarkozy started to born so this so-called new order of the guys the mainstream guys who would fact i don't think we have to worry about this because he's an entirely pro u.s. candidate supported by us we have to see ok we'll see germany about germany well i think we should congratulate the world with the fact that america is leaving you know basically who is in the lecturing doing this in in have some well the problem with america is that she is very politically correct she would not see things like the ones that are not offset but she stopped at the coup in ukraine she

supported in person her foreign minister was speaking to the peaceful protesters in my don who killed so if i am interested she compared the division of division between crimea and ukraine to the division of germany this was all it's very bloody what are interesting because you know if you look back in two thousand and fourteen that was one of the first major foreign policy initiatives that the europeans had under the home. angela merkel and it was an utter catastrophe here ok gentlemen i want to move on here and talk about. it's time for sanctioning of iran here. i think that if this was done fifteen or twenty years ago there might be something to it but i think there's going to be an enormous amount there already rhetorical he is a lot of pushback against the trump administration for its attempted global sanctions . iran it isn't going to happen and our wide relationships

already under stress are going to be under even more stress iran is going to wait this in when this. i would compare the decision about sanctions against iran with the very recent decision to withdraw from this very good old treaty between us. yes and i think that the idea of president trump and his administration is first to free their own hands so there are no longer committed to some deals that were made by their predecessors so all of the they're not responsible for the policies of the previous presidents so it makes them more gives them more freedom of choice about their future moves and also i think it's very important to seize the initiative not be the follow food the previous leaders but to to lead not

too full so let's all really go she would really go she ate here but that's a policy of spite in seems to me anything that obama did it has to be undone here and i get it but i want to obama yeah but i think also that you have again we've talked many many times i've actually made separate programs on the hand of john bolton you know this is this is the next step right here in the threatening. this is going to be iran is going to draw a very specific lines in the sand i think this is a very important story first of all i mean we have to remember we have it ministration that the foreign policy at this point is now entirely in the hands and then you. go and you know they have a hard on for a war with iran i mean there's exactly when you talk the understatement of freedom of options that's exactly what we're talking about is they're moving step by step part of a you could see. the scripted phases towards a war of aggression against iran and whether that's

a libya style you know you know the supporting proxies or so i think that's most likely case maybe some limited strikes but that's what we are going to do but these sanctions are a joke yes i mean did you did you see that the advertisements i mean they ran advertisements for sanctions like. the interesting says george r.r. martin sanctions are coming instead of winter is coming these are the list of countries that the u.s. has already granted waivers to because they already announced they're not going to follow as i should greatest hits china the biggest club in the world and india the most populous country in the world taiwan right u.s. ally in little client state off the coast of china south korea u.s. ally italy part of the e.u. the united arab emirates u.s. ally dictatorship in the middle east turkey a not really still part of nato kind of u.s. ally that the u.s.

can't afford to middling or angry right now because their proxies are killing each other in syria and japan a major industrial company and u.s. only rather didn't make the cut grac iraq as well and they've been granted only oil but for food and other things as well so before the sanctions are even come into effect they've already been granted waiver and the rest of the e.u. is certainly not going to follow suit either so it's a sanctions sanctions are coming sanctions already left and they didn't have. a use and american media here i hope you catch it here but it's it's all hat and no cattle ok. so they really got it and i don't doubt an internet and i pod cow that is loved the way we are on the is there even though that the states of the european union if you look at. recent years the all only contrie that all put this said the

album was the killer and the albany it opposed his actions was iran. and libya and russia he would russia didn't do it so when they say no or sanction iran or you know crippling sanctions sanctions. i think they're trying to essentially coalitions because the iranians were the ones who saw the real you and they actually called directed here. not only those eight countries are an exception even american companies may get special license from the treasury department and do business with iran if needed so it's like sanctions are same shows but you can always get it is this you know is this again from pulling out that in the book or the as all of his little misses on the bus and his checks and all this it seems to be very rhetorical here you know this is obviously a political move before the elections to a large extent. i'm not so sure how popular sanctions on iran are

with the american people are not i don't i don't think the american people care about saying sions on it i mean i either way i don't i don't think they don't support them i don't think they do support i don't i don't think they really care about this not what americans vote or care about other other then from the angry comments the people that watch the show you all know that you are not the average americans that you actually are concerned with forget you would be watching this program watching the show if you are right but by and large you know every data shows americans do not vote on foreign policy and they certainly don't care whether their sanctions or not on iraq last thirty seconds go well there was. a story that happened or visit the ukrainian troops is going to be some very difficult times to have the president came to east on both points to constantinople he signed the deal with the constantinople and the u.s. state department supported this. so much for the wall of separation between church

and state which the guy who came to power in ukraine would cool meeting that had all of a religious organization that represents a thousand people and even then. and they both decide to crush basically a church which is about five thousand years old and which cater to the author the behavior we're going to ask you to keep an eye on that story will come back to you with that in the future that's all the time we have here many thanks to my guests here in moscow this is the end of our broadcast segment stay with us for the extended version on our you tube channel see you next time and remember across couples. what holds his hands to. put themselves on the line to get accepted or rejected.

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