tv The Alex Salmond Show RT November 8, 2018 2:30am-3:01am EST
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to the store the memory of the face of the lying bastard. and i delighted to be joined by mark her star long lancaster campaigner and michelle to be a local historian here and so on the mark of i can come to you first what was the line cast a doing here and soul is there that fateful day in june one thousand forty four the lancastrian had been commissioned as a troop ship at outbreak of war and she was actually just finished the disembarkation of troops from the norway campaign when she got orders to sail to san nazir and help in the evacuation she was a canard lainer which was requisitioned as a cook yes she was she was requisitioned she she clues the atlantic in peacetime rule taking wealthy passengers across the atlantic she also did some mediterranean cruising and with the orders when the orders came through she was actually in nassau in the bahamas and was sent to new york painted battleship gree and then on
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worlds to the to the u.k. to take a full part in the the war and troop movements and michel if you would actually arrived to just don't the road in one nine hundred forty as a ten year old boy and you witnessed the chaos in the confusion of the troops trying to find a way out of france and the refugees looking for somewhere to go it was unbelievable it was impossible to drive on the roads who they were for for a few g.'s cramming from the north of france from coming from belgium from in from their thousands and well there are impossible to do to drive so the troops and the civil suit with t.v. and people they did what they could do and what they had to ship going back to england they tried to do to embark on a beach and i think the captain. or try to have the never. safe as possible and he was waiting for an escape captain shop. sede not to sail in
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the afternoon or because he was waiting for the straw escort he was afraid and obviously of you boortz as sinking his ship in the in the channel and the other beast now to see you he made a mistake but i was a captain more for myself i don't know what i have if they would have done the movement because you have a family connection because your grandfather was aboard lancaster tell us about his story of what happened to him when he arrived here will lead to on the night before the. embarkation go to the lancastrian slept in the streets here in san jose or and his unit will actually center at least in the afternoon they were one of the last units to borderline castra and he actually sought refuge on the top deck and because he was a monster middle east spotted a life jacket but initially didn't think it would save his life he took the life jacket because he thought it would make a good pillow for the long journey back but i was a fitful decision for him obviously because shortly afterwards when castro was
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attacked and your grandfather's name was walter horse and did he speak much about the later days because you obviously did your normal growing up and tell you about what happened while he lived with us in the latter years of his life and he would describe what happened and when he eventually made it into the water. he was there he didn't say it was in a swimmer so he tried to stay as still as possible and out of nowhere a dog appealed and he grabbed the scruff of the neck to pull him away from the suction of the boat and we know this dog may well have been from the other. the pair of some of the belgian children refugees who had boarded the link us you know there was it's difficult to understand but there was not just troops coming in to sign the zero there was hundreds of refugees as many of them lately as children had walked all the way of with their dogs sadly though we know that these children who did borderline caster with the dogs sadly the they didn't make it. but the dog
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intervention was very helpful to your grandfather my grandfather but he was still very much haunted by what he saw it's as difficult to imagine what happened there in the in the estuary it was many ways to die that day and i think the whole of in some ways for the survivals was live with them for many years and i know from my own experience speaking to many survival since they had me of well into their eighty's and ninety's throw the life of what would happen and for many years afterwards remains of bodies were being washed ashore fishermen were catching the bodies and the levels by the founders and but it's not difficult to know who to do you where and how many have seen. the bottom of dandy now but all along the coast. and maybe some still down in the in the bottom of the sea so thank you so much michele for that first hand of
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the confusion and horror of that type for pinochle collapse a sudden queer quakes the loving cup a couple of members perhaps you know the drill the southern. whiskey and the queer and all the scotch whisky of course thank you thank you my wife would appreciate if you have to drink some. to. say some of the history of your grandfather how he got here on that fateful day. long i'd like to get. back in one thousand four. things were going well i mean. did winston churchill had broadcast that there expeditionary force have been safely transported across the channel that the boys think they have been left behind. yeah well in fight on the fourteenth of june we
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were sitting not far from here listening to the b.b.c. world service when winston churchill came on and the moans that the british expeditionary force out completely and successfully evacuated france and fact at that point there were still one hundred fifty thousand plus british troops still in france still trying to evacuate along with many civilians embassy staff people who'd been on holiday perhaps mixed in with refugees from belgium members of the faith forces or perhaps the fancier away from the sea occupations so there was a whole gallery of people who were anxious to get out and what about fifty kilometers from sun was out here yeah it's important to point out though there was real chaos no one really knew what was going on i mean partly due to water and censorship but the first indication the company got was when the commanding officer called them out on parade and said prepare for evacuation and i think that was a real shock especially for my grandfather because one of the reasons he had volunteered to come to france was to finish the job that his own father had was
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that he put it begun in world war one so to be know in clearly a food retreat was a shock so they were on parade on june sixteenth the day before the lancastrian went down as a wind up and to the end to the trucks boys and will be off the santa sail and you know i'll be evacuated back to back to blighty yeah and tragically for for that unit my grandfather's unit was two hundred fifty men a third of the unit were actually killed in the subsequent evacuation it was a look at the working conditions at sea while this was so strategically important. in the control building affair to give me one of only two like it standing in the world what does it feel like retracing your grandfather walter's footsteps a feeling of real sense of affinity with this building. the small the first time i've been here but you know in. the very tangible way this was
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a building that my grandfather knew he saw every day that he was stationed and for all the events or own my grandfather to be a shrouded in disaster for the period leading up to the evacuation these were very happy times for my grandfather so of course here in the last of the squadron has you know i had no idea they were about to be involved in the greatest disaster in british history when they left here it was kind of. a tinge of sadness i think that they were leaving but i think it was makes practitioner ultimately the town. i think for my granddad. the other men you know. it was a sense of defeat i mean you couldn't hide the fact that this was an unmitigated retreat on the morning of june seventeenth one thousand four hundred captain sharp and. received. it told them to load as many men as possible of the guard to the limits laid down by. more than six thousand people
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exhausted soldiers confused refugees trying to get onto the ship more than three times. at that point captain sharp made a fateful decision to stay and not to make a. he was understandably frightened. his ship would be easy to use in the english channel. a major air raid began at quarter to four and then going past year ten nautical miles off song was there. just after four o'clock going past began to capsize and then sank within twenty minutes the fuel oil in the sea ignited. the survivors in the water only five of one cast just there to do life will go successfully a long. time this.
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a watertight news blackout. but what was the impact of the loss of life. the communities here in brittany no one knows these waters better than former fishermen captain of the law pilots service captain yves busch use this as a boy fishing and they asked to be the remains of the one cast of victims were caught in these nets as a man he founded the association like castor de france cut to me bush use as president of the association one caster defaults you have made up almost a personal mission to explain the circumstances of the loss of that great ship if it did more. liberal. supply. in the. first game of the situation is that the story can never be father turns to the families understand through exactly where the sight of that should make his
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fifty fifth cemeteries in the west of france where they are dated on a certain level not to order victims or survivors of the don't ask for help you don't have. to be simply don't ask why do you feel that the loss of the cast the greatest loss of life into a single ship sinking in the whole of british naval history why do you feel it's not remembered more as it should be shifted more. linda pony up at the into too little. second question in fact for me it will mend the worst maritime disaster ever so. can you imagine the victim i see in fifty feet cemeteries can you imagine that exactly six months after the sinking a body came into bordeaux. but so far it will remain the worst my time disaster ever. mentions
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a chart on libya. in the catastrophic situation. well what good could he tell his. new commission polynomial level vision if the machine you know would have it in. caps and i can't thank you for all the work you've done but what i can do is present you have the alex salmond clear the loving cup for being on the show you know the drill for the child requires a fair. so mom because the whiskey. is the kathleen. council member of the so most of the sponsibility for veterans affairs and settlements but i'm katherine what is the story of the lancastrian which touches the hearts of the people of sadness. to see a procedural new. walk to something known the situation was very complex in the
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seventy's i thought why people do remember the story because the situation of process very critical. was martial fatah's appeal for the armistice also because the allies and troops are going back and people here and so on the sam are afraid of them leaving lynas and finally there was the sinking of the lancaster which was a real disaster because people here never forget this huge family you know that remains in there but the tragedy of the langley has a theme this is. it's not that they didn't. katherine for all that you've done to commemorate the loss of the people in the lancastrian to represent you have them examined create a loving cup for whisky someone because you know the drill is sadly quite. messy beaucoup best america but a mess one of the most remarkable aspects of
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a long cast a disaster is that in many ways is better remembered in france and britain. and i'm joined by claude viggle who's the responsible for the part in the french government will choose ask the vet of his affairs on this locality tell me a bit about what you you do locally claude we sell the memory of the veterans of. several wars. and we hung your memory and we tried to help them for social life. were orphans eye wall with those and victims of terror and attack to use attended many such ceremonies and as i did a violin other circumstances and a solemnity about the act of the members how do you consider the importance of the act and ceremony of remember well it's so important that today
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breck could catch the fidel a t. in this memory or during two world wars british army and french military were brother in arms that is very important we caught we mustn't we never met and forget this because. these people that die for us to die for our liberty today and i feel deeply concerned as french by the memory of british military who died for us with us for freedom with us i can't guarantee the continuation remembers i can hope but it certainly the work and offers the quick the loving cup by which remembers can be properly knowledge you know the drill the subsequent of. your skin the quick i
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think remember frank you very much let me have as you such a battle it that i lead each grave of bridges. soldier involved a thank you so much thank you very much thank you very much indeed. because stuff that's just the same afford me feel i was merely many ships have been wrecked in this dangerous coastline here really because before the signals were very very simple you know with this mast just behind us and the lights came later and sometimes with the fog and so on the ship's crew didn't see the rocks and also they were battles. and some wrecks here in the area. and there are some of the lucky police after yourself ok thank you. this remarkable feature of french remembrance of the lancastrian disaster it's also been much to fill up speed to your award winning film the priest of swat someone who's taken
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a keen interest in the night caster over the years christoph tell us where we are the press world we are here in the point he does it says sells through our region and we are closest point to we are about five going to take my eyes far from the shipwreck of the lancaster area and this is the old semaphores station which has been tunder to very impressive amount of time it is ill with all this the models of the lancastrian another of the famous ships which were lost off this course exactly what we are here in this museum in the room which is the decayed to all the sinkings which happened here in the area and there months there we have the model of the lancaster area and some artifacts also which can show you that it was first a liner the very look should be a sly one of the most luxurious of his day at the ninety if that is exactly the like us we has to have a first life as
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a liner and transported many many many people on cruises and you've either an award winning documentary. which was showed him across the planet tell me what made you make that film which was sort of noted of the saw as or celebrated first it was shown in france in our regions after that on the national late work and after that it was shown in eighty five countries which can understand french language and how did you title the full. table of the theme lancastrian the story of thick of confidential thinking confidential as a secret yeah exactly it's still difficult to realize today all the victims of this of this disaster and i wanted to make something for the sonoma victims who died who perished here in our region and it was the most important for me to make this be known by everybody or so in u.k.
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so thank you so much to stove for using your cloth and filmmaking to properly commemorate those who were lost and like castor. talking for appearing on the alexander show your title to the. welfare exactly you know the drill quickly across a little west is easy thank you very much alex thank you yes it will. but that's lack of official recognition for the victims of one cast does not extend to the commonwealth war graves commission here in part meet some thirty kilometers from sadness christophe could be attendance to his duties of loving care. when was the cemetery here and for meek the stablished for the victims of the lancastrian. pony. created a new passion on the cemetery was established at pony i don't just hear disaster yes the first victims will be read in the civil cemetery the jew to the massive
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number of victims found on the coast it was decided to be done here. to dedicate the place to do. this is truly a beautiful and very peaceful place and each year the ceremony is still held to commemorate the victims of the lancastrian we. forty six. and his release by the locals is a new. eighteenth of june one thousand forty. probably four soldiers. to go and google. i think the victim spurned here would find very suitable thank you so much. it was perhaps ironic that this. should see both the single greatest naval disaster in british history and the most successful commando raid of the
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second world war. both. touching sensitivity and dignity but that's not the case back in blighty. said to the global empire that they should treat triumph and disaster. with the same. message was lost in the british authorities but it came to the sinking the disastrous loss of the lancastrian and that's caused lasting damage because of warfare is really a story of triumph even triumph achieved through sacrifice. only. that these trials have to be balanced and remembered by the unmitigated disaster like the loss of. secondly because behind the loss of four thousand souls on the. belief of families who were denied the proper opportunity to commemorate
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and mourn the deed it took. a matter during the second world war. to blame what was an effect of black coat of the disastrous news of the leg cast. was the first domestic newspaper to break the effect of embargo other outlets followed but by then the news agenda had moved on to other things. and then the british authorities and this is the strangest thing. a seventy process that best grudging acknowledgment of. what some claim has been a beautiful cover up. of the official. people's reaction and the relatives of those who lost and those who survived than the length. of a but throughout that period of a campaign to harm the memory of their relatives properly commemorate the not lost
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